Category: Sports

  • Kei Nishikori Eliminated in Qualifying Final — Curtain Falls on His Grand Slam Career, 5ch: ‘A Legend’

    On August 28, Kei Nishikori lost to Rei Sakamoto in the US Open qualifying final, bringing an end to his run at Grand Slam tournaments. Nishikori built a résumé that included becoming the first Japanese man to reach a Grand Slam final, at the 2014 US Open, and came within a whisker of winning a major — but this time he couldn’t clear the last hurdle of qualifying just to reach the main draw. On 5ch’s Geinou/Sports Express+ thread, some hailed him as “a legend on the level of Otani or Hachimura,” while a broader discussion unfolded around why tennis results rarely make domestic news in Japan, and how that ties into soft tennis’s dominance in school club activities.

    Sports Hochi

    August 29, 2026, 4:49 AM

    ◆Tennis ▽Final day of US Open qualifying (28th, New York, USA)

    Source: hochi.news / Original article here

    9AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:28
    Tennis results in Japan just never get covered domestically.
    No other sport is like this.
    10AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:30
    Re: #9
    Hardball tennis is a minor sport in Japan — soft tennis (a Japanese variant played with a soft rubber ball, huge in schools) shares some of the blame.
    71AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:58
    Re: #9
    Back in the corporate-team Japan League era it apparently got decent coverage.
    The common view is that the league actually held players back from going overseas.
    Shuzo (Matsuoka) was the one who broke that mold and went abroad.

    The Japan League still exists today, though.
    196AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:30
    Re: #9
    Feels like you're only considered a "real" player once you shine at a Slam.
    At this rate it'll stay a minor sport forever.
    12AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:32
    He's getting trashed on the sports board, but honestly he's an Otani/Hachimura-level legend — we might never see another Japanese tennis player like him again.
    19AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:38
    Re: #12
    That's not really true — it's just that the most athletically gifted people don't go into tennis in the first place.
    74AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:00
    Re: #12
    If anything, Hachimura gets way too little coverage in Japan.
    Is it because he's half-Japanese?
    16AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:36
    Re: #13
    So who else is there at Nishikori's level then?
    Pretty much only Jiro Sato from the early days.
    38AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:45
    Re: #16
    You mean the guy behind the famous line "this shot is one of a kind"?
    17AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:37
    I heard he was going to play doubles with Naomi Osaka — did that match already happen?
    29AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:41
    Re: #17
    He was entered for mixed doubles beforehand but ended up not playing.
    24AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:40
    If you want to become a top tennis player, it takes about as much parental money as figure skating.
    37AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:45
    Re: #24
    Makes you wonder how players ranked outside the top 100 even make a living.
    28AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:41
    Re: #19
    That's just armchair theorizing.
    Nobody like that has actually shown up, so it doesn't mean anything.
    39AnonymousAug 29, 2026 07:45
    Re: #28
    "We might never see another one" — that's the armchair theory right there.
    Tennis just doesn't pay well. It's nothing like Otani or Hachimura, who are the elite of the elite.
    99AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:26
    So no Grand Slam title in the end.
    If only he'd beaten Wawrinka that time.
    103AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:30
    Re: #99
    Nishikori just had bad luck — he came up during the era when the greatest four players in history ruled the sport.
    And now the tennis kings are retiring right along with him.
    107AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:32
    Re: #103
    Nishikori probably couldn't have handled guys like Becker, Lendl, or Edberg either.
    111AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:34
    Re: #103
    If anything, making the US Open final was pure luck —
    he just didn't have the nerve to close it out.
    117AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:37
    Italian soccer has gotten weaker lately, so fans have been shifting over to tennis.
    The current world No. 1 is Italy's Sinner,
    and Italy has three players in the top 20.
    120AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:39
    Re: #117
    Uh, who's that…?
    129AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:43
    Re: #117
    Italy's strong in F1 too — they're doing well in everything except soccer.
    130AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:43
    Re: #117
    In F1, 20-year-old Antonelli is leading and looking like a near-lock for this season's title.
    In Italy, Sinner and Antonelli are far more popular than the Serie A soccer players.
    126AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:41
    Well done, Nishikori.
    Looking back, it's such a shame he couldn't win the 2014 Madrid Masters or that US Open final.
    Especially Madrid —
    he was completely dominating Nadal, then had to retire with a back injury.
    Well, I guess that's part of what made him great too.
    135AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:46
    Re: #126
    Who'd have thought he'd dominate a prime Nadal — the guy who made even Federer look like a kid on clay.
    Looking back, if only he'd grabbed even one Grand Slam title.
    163AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:03
    Re: #126
    That was the biggest "so close" moment of Nishikori's career.
    But Nadal was retrieving everything so relentlessly that Nishikori had to push himself to the point of injury — so honestly, that result wasn't bad luck, it was just how it was always going to go.
    140AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:50
    Shuzo Matsuoka goes over well overseas too —
    those looks work in his favor.
    145AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:53
    Re: #140
    In Italy he's known as the "swimming uncle" (a nickname from a viral clip of his over-the-top enthusiasm).
    153AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:55
    Re: #140
    Shuzo's interview with Sakamoto nearly turned into an on-air disaster.
    162AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:03
    If Japan didn't have soft tennis, there'd probably be several more players putting up Nishikori-level results.
    Among students, soft tennis has way more participants — public schools are almost all soft tennis.
    By high school, even public schools start having more hardball tennis clubs, but switching over from soft tennis is basically like switching to a whole different sport — the racket, the ball, and even how you grip the racket are all different.
    182AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:18
    Re: #162
    It's rare to find a sport as purely "school-club-only" as soft tennis.
    171AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:09
    I hear this "soft tennis is the problem" argument a lot,
    but honestly it's not that relevant.
    176AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:15
    Re: #171-172
    Kids whose families can only afford public-school-club-level soft tennis were never going to make it anyway.
    Kids aiming to be top players are already being sent off to study at IMG Academy at that same age.
    195AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:29
    Re: #171
    You'd need athletic ability good enough to say "it's not that relevant"
    in the first place to make it big, though —
    both in technique and mindset.
    Starting out
    after picking up soft tennis habits
    is still tough, I'd think.
    193AnonymousAug 29, 2026 09:28
    He made the ATP Finals about four times, right?
    That group photo in suits was so cool.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    The US Open qualifying rounds decide who earns a spot in the main draw — lose the final round, and you’re out. Kei Nishikori, who once climbed as high as world No. 4 and became the first Japanese man to reach a Grand Slam final at the 2014 US Open, had to enter this year’s tournament through qualifying, and his loss in that qualifying final reflects both his fall in the rankings and the twilight of his career. On the thread, the view that he’s “an Otani/Hachimura-level legend” clashed with the counterargument that “tennis just doesn’t attract the most athletically gifted talent in the first place, so it’s not a fair comparison.” Others pointed to soft tennis’s dominance in school club activities as a structural reason why hardball tennis results rarely make news in Japan, broadening the discussion into the sport’s underlying popularization issues.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Express+) thread “[Tennis] Kei Nishikori: “The last candle has been snuffed out” — curtain falls on his final Grand Slam as he’s eliminated by Rei Sakamoto in the US Open qualifying final.”

  • Mari Hoshino Passes 57km Mark in 24-Hour TV Marathon — Her ‘1 Minute Run, 1 Minute Walk’ Pace Becomes a Talking Point

    In the charity marathon for Nippon TV’s “24-Hour Television 49,” actress Mari Hoshino started at 8:53 p.m. on August 29 and had covered 57km by just after noon on the 30th. Live coverage reported that she’s been pacing herself sustainably by running for one minute and walking for one minute. On 5ch’s Geinou/Sports Breaking News+ board, reactions poured in from every angle — comparisons to past runners’ pace and appearance fees, rumors about her fee, complaints that the distance numbers don’t add up, and comparisons to robot marathons.

    Mari Hoshino passes the 57km mark in “24-Hour Television” marathon just after noon on the 30th

    Nippon TV’s annual summer charity program “24-Hour Television 49 — Love Saves the Earth —” kicked off on the 29th at Ryogoku Kokugikan in Tokyo. Actress Mari Hoshino, serving as the charity marathon runner, passed the 57km mark just after noon on the 30th.

    Nippon TV’s live coverage reported that she has been keeping up sustainably by running for one minute and walking for one minute.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:00
    Fuji TV: "If you seriously run, 100km is doable in 12 hours."
    Naoko Takahashi (Olympic marathon gold medalist): "Four and a half hours is plenty."
    19AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:05
    Re: #5
    If it were Naoko Takahashi, that'd be a 421.95km marathon (a jab at the official 42.195km distance).
    55AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:19
    Re: #5
    At that pace she could squeeze in some pachinko along the way lol
    57AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:20
    Re: #5
    That'd smash the world record.
    13AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:02
    Honestly, having robots race would be more entertaining to watch.
    296AnonymousAug 30, 2026 16:03
    Re: #13
    Plus it'd actually contribute to tech development. Way better than this staged marathon.
    301AnonymousAug 30, 2026 16:05
    Re: #296
    Japan only sent one robot to that robot track meet, and honestly it was embarrassing to watch — it couldn't even run properly. Really made me feel like Japan's tech level has fallen that far.
    315AnonymousAug 30, 2026 16:13
    Re: #301
    That's because China staked its national pride on robots built specifically to run. Japan just had one company enter on the side while focused on practical robot development.
    324AnonymousAug 30, 2026 16:18
    Re: #301
    There are various reasons like "Japan isn't behind on industrial robots," but at the end of the day, it's a fact that we're behind on humanoids…
    65AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:24
    Try it yourself — even just walking for 2 hours straight is tough.
    80AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:32
    Re: #65
    That's actually a normal training method marathoners use too.
    109AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:42
    Re: #65
    If you run regularly, walking for 2 hours is so easy it's boring, so you end up running anyway. Walking is basically just a rest break.
    97AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:37
    The world's three great Hoshinos (a riff on the classic "world's three great ~" meme format):

    Senichi Hoshino
    Mari Hoshino
    Kantaro Hoshino
    374AnonymousAug 30, 2026 16:56
    Re: #97
    Gen Hoshino
    Aki Hoshino
    608AnonymousAug 30, 2026 19:00
    Re: #97
    Sumire Hoshino (Perman No. 3, from the classic anime)
    634AnonymousAug 30, 2026 19:14
    Re: #97
    Wasn't there a racer with that name too?
    182AnonymousAug 30, 2026 14:23
    They should at least disclose the marathon runner's appearance fee.
    190AnonymousAug 30, 2026 14:27
    Re: #182
    Nippon TV should disclose its profits from 24-Hour TV too.
    194AnonymousAug 30, 2026 14:30
    Re: #182
    I heard the marathon fee itself is almost nothing, but it gets padded through later show appearances.
    205AnonymousAug 30, 2026 14:40
    Re: #182
    Not sure about now, but back when a certain Kansai comedian ran it, another Kansai comedian said on the radio that "the fee is apparently 30 million yen." Take it with a grain of salt though.
    203AnonymousAug 30, 2026 14:38
    I want to see Seko run it — have her shoe fly off and trip like at the Olympics, and hear her say "Oops, I fell again!"
    206AnonymousAug 30, 2026 14:40
    Re: #203
    That wasn't Seko.
    208AnonymousAug 30, 2026 14:42
    Re: #203
    Apparently her time even after losing the shoe and falling was still first place. Such a shame.
    222AnonymousAug 30, 2026 14:47
    Re: #203
    That was Taniguchi at the Barcelona Olympics. People with no interest in sports and only half-baked knowledge, I swear.
    428AnonymousAug 30, 2026 17:32
    Wasn't the fee 10 million yen?

    Some charity show this is lol
    440AnonymousAug 30, 2026 17:38
    Re: #428
    That figure's been floating around for ages, so it might be 20 or 30 million yen by now.
    458AnonymousAug 30, 2026 17:53
    Re: #428
    Ya*ko said "there's no such thing as a fee," but later mentioned getting an amount she'd never received before, so it's probably paid out under the guise of other show appearances.
    467AnonymousAug 30, 2026 17:56
    Re: #428
    I heard from an acquaintance it's 30 million yen plus fees for other show appearances. Since the agency takes a cut too, the 10 million figure might be about right.
    476AnonymousAug 30, 2026 18:03
    It's a strange show — everyone complains about it but watches anyway.
    491AnonymousAug 30, 2026 18:10
    Re: #476
    I absolutely don't want to watch the show itself, but I do want to come check the 5ch thread about it.
    529AnonymousAug 30, 2026 18:27
    Re: #476
    Nah, I don't watch it lol. I just watched the Shoten comedy segment (a long-running rakugo-style quiz show) to keep my mom company.
    530AnonymousAug 30, 2026 18:28
    Re: #476
    Honestly, I've never watched it once — it just looks like such a pointless charade.
    522AnonymousAug 30, 2026 18:24
    Around 5:50 p.m., while Shoten was airing, they said she was almost at 70km.
    So she'd cover another 30km in the remaining 3 hours?
    539AnonymousAug 30, 2026 18:31
    Re: #522
    10km an hour is a pretty serious pace lol
    542AnonymousAug 30, 2026 18:34
    Re: #522
    The 24-Hour TV 49 charity marathon had actress Mari Hoshino starting at 8:53 p.m. on August 29.

    She's only covered 70km in 21 hours, and now 30km in the remaining 3 hours???
    556AnonymousAug 30, 2026 18:39
    Re: #522
    Did she warp? Well, with YouTubers livestreaming everything nowadays, that kind of trick wouldn't fly anymore.

    Background and Talking Points

    The 24-Hour Television charity marathon has been a signature segment since 1992, and the runner’s pace and whether they’re paid are perennial topics of online chatter every year. This year followed the same pattern, with rumors circulating at bar-talk level that the fee — including the agency’s cut — runs around 30 million yen, though none of this comes from official statements by the people involved and remains unverified hearsay. Some posters in the thread pointed out inconsistencies in the broadcast figures — such as “70km at the 21-hour mark after an 8:53 p.m. August 29 start, with 3 hours left to reach the 57km point” — which is worth noting, since the timing of distance announcements and pace changes between segments can easily cause confusion. Criticism that the show itself is “staged” is a recurring, formulaic reaction every year, not a new revelation specific to this instance.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Nippon TV] Mari Hoshino passes 57km in “24-Hour Television” marathon just after noon on the 30th… sustainably continuing by running for one minute and walking for one minute.”

  • Japan Women’s Volleyball Falls 1-3 to Thailand, Los Angeles Olympic Berth Put on Hold — 5ch: ‘Is There Any Other Sport Where We Lose to Thailand?’

    On August 29, 2026, in the women’s volleyball Asian Championship semifinal held in Tianjin, China, Japan lost 1-3 to defending champion Thailand. The result means Japan’s outright qualification for the Los Angeles Olympics has been put on hold, and players including Seki and Wada were reportedly in tears. On 5ch, the loss drew comments pointing to a roster problem — Japan was forced to lean on inexperienced younger players — while others pushed back, arguing Wada’s poor showing wasn’t really about her own form but about Thailand’s scouting and a mismatch with the starting setter. Opinions were also split over how expectations were hyped up before the tournament and how the TV broadcast handled its presentation.

    Sponichi

    [ August 29, 2026, 20:21 ]

    Women’s Asian Championship Semifinal, Japan vs. Thailand (August 29, 2026, Tianjin, China)

    Source: sponichi.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:29
    With Sato and Wada both off their game, having to lean on inexperienced players like Akimoto and Shigihara was always going to be rough.
    This was a loss waiting to happen.
    81AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:42
    Re: #2
    Wada wasn't actually off form.
    Thailand had scouted her specifically, and she just didn't click with the starting setter.
    10AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:31
    Thailand's too hot year-round for outdoor sports to be viable, so indoor sports are the popular ones there.
    536AnonymousAug 29, 2026 23:10
    Re: #10
    Soccer is by far Thailand's most popular sport.
    570AnonymousAug 29, 2026 23:17
    Re: #536
    Their soccer's weak though — they've never even made the World Cup.
    582AnonymousAug 29, 2026 23:21
    Re: #536
    That's popularity on the men's side. On the women's side, Thailand's soccer team is weaker than the Philippines, Vietnam, and North Korea.
    30AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:34
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7_Lhtba4AA6ukZ.jpg
    277AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:12
    Re: #30

    60AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:38
    They keep promoting it like volleyball is 'the strongest sport, stronger than soccer even,' but both the men's and women's teams are nowhere close.
    82AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:42
    Re: #60
    Calling soccer's all-time greats 'the strongest' isn't really wrong — if anything that's just what you'd expect given the nature of the sport. But dragging up volleyball's history and calling it 'the strongest'… that's a real stretch.
    397AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:40
    Re: #60
    Men's team aside, has the women's team even been promoted like that lately? They've been weak forever.
    85AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:42
    Wait, are volleyball players actually allowed to wear accessories during a match?
    225AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:03
    Re: #85
    Sports without physical contact allow it — badminton too.
    148AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:51
    Is there really any other sport where we lose to Thailand? So lame.
    160AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:53
    So Japanese volleyball is actually weaker than Thailand's…
    245AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:06
    Re: #148
    Women's golf, maybe. That's about it.
    159AnonymousAug 29, 2026 21:53
    I heard Japan keeps hosting volleyball world events because nowhere else turns a profit on it, but wow, the crowds for this Asian Championship in China are genuinely thin.
    249AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:07
    Re: #159
    Same with that Japan-Saudi Arabia basketball game held in Saudi Arabia — dead empty too.
    287AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:13
    TV networks go all-out every single time trying to hype up volleyball, but Japan's never actually won anything, have they?
    296AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:16
    Re: #287
    TV should just broadcast it with zero commentary. It'd actually convey the live atmosphere better. Same goes for every sport — the commentator's drawn-out 'aaaand there it goes, aaaand there it goes' is so grating.
    299AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:16
    Re: #287
    Funny how it's always exactly when they hype it up hardest that the results end up bad. The media ("masgomi," a jab combining "mass media" and "trash") really ought to think about that.
    304AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:17
    Re: #287
    The way they hype it up feels so hollow too — like paid extras cheering who aren't even real fans.
    314AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:20
    Looks like China's going to sweep this one. If they lose to Iran too, that'd be hilarious.
    329AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:23
    Re: #314

    Right now Iran's taken 2 sets off them.
    China 0 sets, Iran 2 sets.
    315AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:20
    Fuji TV's mistake was hyping them up in a way that made people think 'this is a team that can go toe-to-toe with the world's best.'
    322AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:21
    Re: #315
    That's the standard line whenever a tournament rolls around. Don't get your hopes up too much.
    342AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:24
    Re: #314
    A sweep, huh? Are you watching the live scores?
    347AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:25
    Re: #342
    I'm watching on Flashscore — is this wrong?
    353AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:28
    Re: #347
    Oh, you're right — on Flashscore China's winning.
    358AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:29
    Re: #347
    There's an official Volleyball World website, you can check the score there. I got so annoyed I sent a complaint to Sportsnavi.
    434AnonymousAug 29, 2026 22:46
    Match's over.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQ5NtN0WMAApA7V.jpg

    Background and Talking Points

    As the phrase “put on hold” suggests, this semifinal loss doesn’t mean Japan’s Olympic spot is gone entirely — it’s an easy point to misread. What actually happened is that the path to qualifying outright through this tournament has gotten more distant. On the thread, opinions on the cause of the loss were split: some framed the poor form of experienced players like Seki and Wada as an individual issue, while others pointed to a roster problem — over-reliance on younger players like Akimoto and Shigihara. On Wada’s slump specifically, a counter-argument emerged citing “Thailand’s scouting and a mismatch with the starting setter,” suggesting the situation can’t simply be chalked up to an off day. There was also confusion in the thread over live score discrepancies for the concurrent China vs. Iran match, with different score-tracking sites disagreeing with each other. And as the article notes, Thailand is the defending champion — worth keeping in mind, since this wasn’t a simple story of a “shocking upset loss to a weaker opponent.”

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread “[Volleyball] Japan Women Left Stunned… LA Olympic Berth on Hold, Lose 1-3 to Defending Champion Thailand, Seki and Wada in Tears.”

  • Judo’s Kosuke Mashiyama Switches to Team Mongolia — 5ch Says ‘Good Luck’

    Kosuke Mashiyama (27), a former member of Japan’s national judo team, announced on his Instagram that he has acquired Mongolian citizenship and will aim for the World Championships and the Olympics as a member of Team Mongolia. His parents are both Japanese and he has no Mongolian roots, but he says the Mongolian Judo Federation gave him the opportunity. Under IJF rules, he won’t be eligible to compete for Mongolia until April of next year at the earliest. On 5ch, reactions were split — some cheered him on with comments like “good luck,” while others were harsher, saying things like “he’s taking a spot from a pure Mongolian athlete” or “isn’t this just switching because he couldn’t make Japan’s team?”

    Daily Sports, 8/28

    Former Japan judo national team member Kosuke Mashiyama announces switch to Team Mongolia after changing citizenship, “To become Olympic champion” — parents are Japanese, “I have no roots there, but the Mongolian federation gave me this opportunity”

    Kosuke Mashiyama (27), a former member of Japan’s men’s national judo team, updated his Instagram on the 28th, announcing his intention to change citizenship and pursue the World Championships and the Olympics, stating, “I have decided to acquire Mongolian citizenship and challenge myself on the world stage as a member of Team Mongolia.” Due to IJF rules, he reportedly won’t be able to compete internationally for Mongolia until April of next year.

    Source: daily.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:38
    Re: #1
    Good luck. Doing it in Japan just isn't worth the effort (bad cost-performance).
    4AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:38
    There are people who naturalize into Japan, so the reverse happens too.
    Good luck to him.
    5AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:38
    If he's from Chiyoda Ward, his family's probably loaded.
    24AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:48
    Re: #5
    Hmm, not sure about that.
    Still a step up from Minato Ward though.
    8AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:39
    With Murao and Tajima in his way, he probably just really wanted to make the Olympics no matter what.
    14AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:42
    Would Japanese parents really give their kid a name written with those kanji (香補)? (an unusual spelling for 'Kosuke')
    15AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:43
    I mean, why not? He should go wherever he's wanted and do his own thing.
    16AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:43
    Ah, Mashiyama — the seoi-nage (shoulder throw) guy.
    There's not much judo on TV these days so I've lost track of the athletes.
    17AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:43
    Judo's a brutal world — miss weight once and you're done as a national team athlete.
    19AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:43
    Can't get behind this — it takes an opportunity away from a purebred Mongolian athlete.
    If he's going to do it, he needs to be prepared to live as a Mongolian, for Mongolia, for the rest of his life.
    20AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:43
    I kind of had the image that Mongolia was strong at judo, though.
    21AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:44
    They say making Japan's national team is actually harder than winning an Olympic gold medal…
    22AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:45
    There was even a case of a Chinese pro wrestler posing as Mongolian.
    72AnonymousAug 28, 2026 23:33
    Re: #22
    There was that guy from Croatia, Bepo Mongol or something like that.
    23AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:47
    It's basically like Chinese players naturalizing elsewhere for table tennis.
    25AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:49
    It's basically like Bahrain (recruiting foreign-born athletes), right?
    Well, whatever — only second-tier athletes do that kind of thing anyway.
    26AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:49
    His Mongolian name is Killer Khan II. (a nod to the famous Mongolian-gimmick wrestler)
    53AnonymousAug 28, 2026 23:17
    Re: #26
    Well, if he's already planning ahead for a pro wrestling debut, maybe that actually makes sense.
    28AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:51
    Sounds like the offer came from the Mongolian side, and it probably includes coaching and outreach work for the next generation too.
    Doesn't seem like he's just leaving Japan because he wants to make the Olympics.
    29AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:51
    Re: #1

    Mongolia's actually pretty strong at judo, so I doubt he'll even make their Olympic team.

    If you want to be an Olympic representative, you need to pick a weaker judo nation.
    Also, he's underestimating what nationality actually means.
    If he took Mongolian citizenship prepared to spend the rest of his life there, fine — but if not, he should drop it.
    30AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:51
    If Mongolia puts its mind to it, they could get strong at judo too.
    31AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:54
    Japan's a powerhouse, so let's start exporting some athletes too.
    32AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:54
    Sounds like he's never made an Olympics, so he must want to compete no matter what two years from now. Given his age, that's probably his last shot too — hope he does it without regrets.
    34AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:55
    Same pattern as Deguchi, huh.
    Well, Deguchi actually had roots there, so that one made a bit more sense.
    35AnonymousAug 28, 2026 22:56
    Hakuho, Terunofuji, and plenty of others — we've taken plenty from them too, so fair's fair. (referring to Mongolian-born sumo stars who became Japanese)
    36AnonymousAug 28, 2026 23:02
    The logic doesn't add up.
    To win Olympic gold you'd have to beat Japan's team anyway, so the odds are the same whether he competes for Japan or Mongolia.
    I get it if he just wants to make the Olympics at all, though.
    51AnonymousAug 28, 2026 23:13
    Re: #36
    At this point he's way behind his rivals in the race for Japan's team spot — probably no way to catch up.
    37AnonymousAug 28, 2026 23:05
    So he'll end up like those Chinese table tennis players… can't make the Olympics in the sport back home, so they switch citizenship to get in.
    38AnonymousAug 28, 2026 23:06
    Didn't realize there'd even been a weigh-in failure in Japanese men's judo.
    41AnonymousAug 28, 2026 23:08
    Well, Mongolians do well in sumo, so the reverse should be fine too.
    42AnonymousAug 28, 2026 23:08
    Let's just say his grandmother told him she carried the blood of Genghis Khan, so he felt a connection. (a sarcastic jab suggesting he needs a better cover story)
    44AnonymousAug 28, 2026 23:09
    In Mongolia, if you win an Olympic medal the state takes care of you for life.
    Wonder if that applies to naturalized citizens too?
    50AnonymousAug 28, 2026 23:12
    Why is it that judo guys always end up with faces like Satoshi Ishii or Shohei Ono?

    Background and Key Points

    Switching nationality to chase an Olympic berth has precedent in sports like table tennis and sumo, and the IJF imposes a waiting period before newly switched athletes can compete, to keep the practice from being abused. That rule is presumably why Mashiyama can’t compete for Mongolia until April next year. Where the thread split was over whether to view this as taking a spot away from Mongolia’s judo community, or as a rational move given the gap in competitive depth between the two countries. Note that Japan does not generally recognize dual citizenship, so a change of nationality effectively amounts to naturalization. Mongolia has produced many sumo wrestlers, but its Olympic medal record in judo isn’t nearly as deep as Japan’s — it isn’t necessarily the “judo powerhouse” some might assume, a nuance the original article doesn’t really convey. Mashiyama has never competed in the Olympics, and given that he’s 27, some see the Games two years from now as effectively his last shot.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “Former Japan judo national team member Kosuke Mashiyama announces switch to Team Mongolia after citizenship change, “To become Olympic champion,” “I have no roots there, but the Mongolian federation gave me a shot”.”

  • Saudi Giants Reportedly Offer Ritsu Doan a Transfer Deal Worth Over ¥1.6 Billion a Year

    According to German media reports, Saudi Arabian powerhouse Al-Ittihad has reportedly approached Japan national team midfielder Ritsu Doan (Eintracht Frankfurt) about a move, prepared to offer an €18 million transfer fee and a multi-year deal worth €9 million a year (roughly ¥1.67 billion). Frankfurt manager Adolf Hütter has pushed back against the idea, saying “Ritsu is indispensable to this team,” and the talks are said to still be in an early stage. On 5ch, discussion centered on the tax gap — some pointed out that Saudi Arabia has no income tax, meaning far higher take-home pay than in Germany, with comments like “he’s 28, he should cash in while he can,” while others were wary of a Middle East move so close to a World Cup, and the thread ended up revolving mostly around the tax-system differences.

    An intriguing report about the Japan national team’s number 10 is making waves. On August 27 local time, several German outlets including satellite broadcaster SKY reported that Saudi Pro League powerhouse Al-Ittihad is moving to sign Eintracht Frankfurt’s Japan international midfielder Ritsu Doan.

    The behind-the-scenes talks surfaced just before Europe’s transfer window closes. That said, according to SKY, negotiations between Doan’s camp and Al-Ittihad are still at an early stage, and no formal offer or agreement between the clubs has been reached. Frankfurt manager Adolf Hütter objected, saying “Of course I don’t want that,” and pressed for him to stay: “Ritsu is a very important player for this team and carries a key role. For me he’s an absolute mainstay, a player who can make the difference.”

    Still, with France international forward Moussa Diaby’s return to former club Bayer Leverkusen looking imminent, Al-Ittihad is scrambling to fill the gap out wide. Doan has reportedly been shortlisted, with the club prepared to offer an €18 million transfer fee (roughly ¥3.34 billion) and a multi-year contract worth €9 million a year (roughly ¥1.67 billion).

    Source: cocokara-next.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:22
    Which country would he even pay taxes to?
    16AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:26
    Re: #2
    None. His ¥1.6 billion in Germany gets cut roughly in half by taxes, down to about ¥800 million, but the ¥1.6 billion in Saudi basically stays intact — you just pay VAT like a sales tax when you buy things, no income tax, no social insurance at all.
    115AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:49
    Re: #16
    Then Japan would just take a huge cut instead — the foreign tax credit only kicks in if you're actually taxed where you work, so if Saudi doesn't tax him, Japan taxes him hard.
    6AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:23
    He probably won't make the next World Cup anyway, and it'd be a bad sign if a player at his level is still starting by then — so isn't this actually good news?
    13AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:25
    Re: #6
    I think he will make it, honestly — the next generation just isn't developing.
    7AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:23
    Weak… Shohei Ohtani makes more than triple that? And he's world-class talent too.
    53AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:34
    Re: #7
    Weak… Ronaldo makes more than triple what Ohtani does though?
    62AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:36
    Re: #7 Re: #53
    Factor in taxes: Ohtani, ¥10bn salary → ¥5bn take-home. Cristiano Ronaldo, ¥30bn salary → stays ¥30bn. That's a 6x gap……
    81AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:40
    Re: #7
    So what's your salary then? (lol)
    24AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:28
    Everyone keeps saying "don't go to Saudi, don't go to Saudi," but honestly this is making me think Doan should go.
    28AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:29
    Re: #24
    Because it's now obvious he's peaked as just a mid-table player in Germany.
    25AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:28
    Doan's 28 now too, so it's fair enough to start prioritizing money. Bank ¥5bn over 3 years in Saudi, then maybe head to the US after that?
    48AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:33
    Re: #25
    He couldn't do anything at the World Cup even at his peak, so Saudi sounds fine to me.
    26AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:28
    "Tax leaguers" are seriously pathetic (lol) (note: "税リーガー" is slang mocking players who chase low-tax leagues purely for money over sporting ambition)
    27AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:28
    Saudi's tax-free, so that's effectively a ¥3.2 billion salary. Still, Doan's probably not the type to actually go.
    30AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:30
    Re: #27
    He'd need the seed money to build the Doan empire first lol
    34AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:31
    Isn't it still too early for Doan to make that move… though ¥1.6 billion a year is nuts.
    40AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:32
    Re: #34
    Effectively ¥3.2 billion…… turning that down would take some real guts.
    54AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:34
    Ronaldo's take-home alone is ¥40 billion, so his real salary works out to ¥80 billion.
    Ronaldo's salary alone >>> the combined salaries of every Dodgers player.
    59AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:35
    Re: #54
    Come to think of it, Ronaldo gets that amount completely tax-free too……… that's just a different dimension.
    64AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:37
    Re: #54
    There's something romantic about chasing the top of world football.
    123AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:50
    Re: #54
    https://jp.reuters.com/article/life/sports/-idUSKBN2YU05R/
    Football: Ronaldo's club Al-Nassr banned from registering players over unpaid-wages issue

    And you're bragging about salaries from that league? lol
    Don't brag about salaries from a team that doesn't even pay its players lmao
    67AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:37
    Re: #62
    What's the point comparing an oil league to a non-oil one?
    76AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:39
    Re: #67
    Right, because baseball's boring so oil money won't flow there. (note: "やきう" is a deliberately childish, mocking spelling of "野球"/baseball used to belittle the sport)
    97AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:43
    Re: #67
    What does having oil have to do with any of this???
    72AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:38
    Saudi has a lot of unpaid-wage cases. That kills the deal — no point going if you don't actually get paid.
    101AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:45
    Re: #72
    Al-Ittihad isn't comparable to some random lower-table club though.
    78AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:39
    Doan tends to get underrated, but he's the type who actually puts up numbers. In baseball terms, he'd be hitting .300 with about 20 home runs every year.
    100AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:45
    Re: #78
    Over the last 10 games of the World Cup Asian final qualifiers, Japan scored 30 goals total — but Doan, who started basically every game, had 0 goals and 1 assist. Ito and Kubo, on the same right flank, actually delivered numbers. Ito was even the top assist provider in Asian qualifying.
    104AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:45
    Doan's current salary is already around ¥1 billion. Bumping it up to about ¥1.6 billion by going to Saudi isn't even that appealing — there's basically no upside to going lol
    117AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:49
    Re: #104
    Because Saudi has no taxes.
    124AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:50
    Re: #104
    In Germany taxes eat into it so take-home is probably around ¥500 million. If it triples like that, it's plenty worth moving to the Middle East for.
    105AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:46
    ¥1.6 billion a year counts as a sky-high salary in soccer?🤣 No wonder everyone plays baseball instead🤔
    113AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:48
    Re: #105
    Shall we compare how many people actually play soccer versus baseball worldwide?
    129AnonymousAug 28, 2026 20:51
    Re: #116
    https://jp.reuters.com/article/life/sports/-idUSKBN2YU05R/
    Football: Ronaldo's club Al-Nassr banned from registering players over unpaid-wages issue

    Soccer salaries don't even get paid properly half the time lol

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Saudi Arabia levies no income tax or social insurance contributions, creating a huge gap in take-home pay compared to playing in Europe. Many in the thread noted that the reported €9 million annual salary would be worth even more once Germany’s high tax rates are factored in. At the same time, with Doan at 28 and at a career crossroads, opinion was split on whether a Middle East move so close to a World Cup would help or hurt him competitively. Some commenters brought up the unpaid-wages issue at Ronaldo’s club Al-Nassr, but that case dates back to 2023 and is reported to have already been resolved — worth noting it has no direct bearing on Al-Ittihad’s finances. Talks between Doan’s camp and the club remain at an early stage, with no formal agreement or figures confirmed.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Soccer] Saudi giants reportedly make Ritsu Doan a “sky-high offer” worth over ¥1.6 billion a year — German media report possible shock transfer“.

  • Japan Rout Saudi Arabia 106-78 in Basketball Qualifier, Rui Hachimura’s 29 Points Spark Strong Start

    Japan’s men’s basketball national team defeated Saudi Arabia 106-78 in their opening match of the World Cup Asian second-round qualifiers. The NBA’s Rui Hachimura (LA Clippers) made his presence felt on both ends of the floor with 29 points, drawing reactions on 5ch like “He’s just on a different level” and “It’s like one adult wandered into a kids’ game.”

    The broadcast’s low TV ratings, along with a past clash between Hachimura and the Japan Basketball Association over national team call-ups, have also become talking points.

    Delivered 8/28 (Fri) 5:21 AM — Sankei Sports

    The men’s basketball World Cup Asian second-round qualifiers kicked off on the 27th. World No. 22 Japan won big on the road in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, beating World No. 65 Saudi Arabia 106-78 that same day (in the early hours of the 28th, Japan time). It was the first time in roughly four years that Japan’s national team had topped 100 points in an official match.

    Rui Hachimura (28), of the NBA’s LA Clippers, and Yuki Kawamura (25), who signed an Exhibit 10 training-camp contract with the Clippers, both played in an official national team match for the first time since the 2024 Paris Olympics. Hachimura led all scorers on both teams with 29 points in 27 minutes 42 seconds, also flashing a spectacular block on defense as he carried the team at both ends.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 28, 2026 06:37
    Hachimura was just on a whole different level
    13AnonymousAug 28, 2026 06:52
    Re: #2
    Seriously, it felt like there was this level gap where just one adult had wandered into a kids' game
    28AnonymousAug 28, 2026 07:32
    Re: #2
    Watching Hachimura out there makes it look like everyone else is just goofing around
    6AnonymousAug 28, 2026 06:42
    Saudi Arabian men

    Average height: 169-170cm
    11AnonymousAug 28, 2026 06:51
    Re: #6
    That's bigger than guys from Kyushu, huh
    18AnonymousAug 28, 2026 07:05
    The ratings were way too low for a World Cup qualifier with this lineup
    They hovered around 1.0-1.2% for the whole match

    NHK General
    Cruising from the Sky (Special Edition)
    0.6%
    Nippon TV
    NTV Poshule: Get Through the Hot Night! Bargain Special (rerun)
    0.6%
    TV Asahi
    FIBA Basketball Men's World Cup Final Qualifiers
    1.1%
    TBS
    Kaimono Lab (Shopping Lab)
    0.3%
    TV Tokyo
    The Art of the Evening Drink 5 ~Summer Edition~ (rerun)
    0.3%
    Fuji TV
    Hapi-Ichi
    0.3%
    23AnonymousAug 28, 2026 07:16
    Re: #18
    Basketball and soccer play a lot of their games overseas, so that's somewhat unavoidable
    Volleyball and baseball, on the other hand, get hosted in Japan almost every time
    24AnonymousAug 28, 2026 07:28
    Re: #18
    The second I hear someone likes Harai-chi, I can't stand them (Harai-chi = a popular Japanese comedy duo)
    52AnonymousAug 28, 2026 08:14
    Re: #18
    Didn't even know it was on
    Wish Yahoo had plugged "game tonight" a bit harder
    20AnonymousAug 28, 2026 07:06
    So they patched things up with the coach after all that friction?
    41AnonymousAug 28, 2026 07:58
    Re: #20
    They cut him loose to bring Hacchi (Hachimura's nickname) back into the fold
    60AnonymousAug 28, 2026 08:35
    Re: #20
    It wasn't just the coach — the federation president and the strengthening committee chief are both gone too
    26AnonymousAug 28, 2026 07:30
    Are Hachimura and Watanabe actually on good terms?
    Don't see them interacting much
    And Watanabe's not even here this time
    27AnonymousAug 28, 2026 07:31
    Re: #26
    Watanabe's sitting out with a conditioning issue
    36AnonymousAug 28, 2026 07:47
    Why call up Rui Hachimura for a game the domestic-league guys could've won on their own? It's not even an Olympic qualifier
    38AnonymousAug 28, 2026 07:51
    Re: #36
    So you want him clashing again with the coach who spent years building a Hachimura-less team, only calling him up for the actual Olympics?
    47AnonymousAug 28, 2026 08:07
    Re: #36
    This basically is an Olympic qualifier
    42AnonymousAug 28, 2026 08:01
    Basketball just never took off in Japan
    Doesn't even come close to baseball
    62AnonymousAug 28, 2026 08:40
    Re: #42
    It's a height game at the end of the day
    That's where the smart kids lose interest
    51AnonymousAug 28, 2026 08:11
    Kawamura's the Fujima Kenji-of-Shoyo type — he brings the whole team to life (a Slam Dunk reference to the manga's slick playmaking point guard)
    53AnonymousAug 28, 2026 08:15
    Re: #51
    That's wild — hard to picture with real players, but the second someone drops a Slam Dunk comparison it just clicks
    55AnonymousAug 28, 2026 08:20
    Hachimura said Hovasse isn't a world-class coach, but is Oketani a world-class head coach?
    65AnonymousAug 28, 2026 08:49
    Re: #55
    My read on Hachimura's "not world-class" comment is that he was criticizing Hovasse's my-way-or-the-highway style — pushing his own ideas without respecting the players — as an approach that's already outdated by world standards
    I don't think it was about X's-and-O's ability
    66AnonymousAug 28, 2026 08:50
    Re: #55
    For what it's worth, the two assistants actually running the tactics do have NBA assistant coaching experience
    58AnonymousAug 28, 2026 08:27
    Soccer and basketball are sports Japan just can't win at on the world stage
    79AnonymousAug 28, 2026 09:39
    Re: #58
    Volleyball was only strong in the group stage too
    And baseball wouldn't win either once a bunch of MLB guys show up on the other side
    63AnonymousAug 28, 2026 08:41
    A sport isn't any fun without the kind of high-level mind games you get in baseball
    72AnonymousAug 28, 2026 09:21
    Re: #63
    Baseball doesn't have anything like that
    64AnonymousAug 28, 2026 08:44
    Feels like a single player basically beat the national team coach and the federation — is that really okay?
    75AnonymousAug 28, 2026 09:30
    Re: #64
    It's not that the federation lost — the thing is, the federation was flat-out in the wrong
    Hachimura had already announced he wouldn't play in that exhibition game, but the association pulled a "Hachimura's playing!" bait-and-switch just to move tickets
    When a reporter asked, "Hachimura said he wasn't playing, so why did you sell tickets advertising him as playing?" all they could manage was the lame excuse: "We knew he wasn't playing, but our hope that he would just… slipped out"
    69AnonymousAug 28, 2026 09:10
    In basketball, one truly great player changes absolutely everything
    78AnonymousAug 28, 2026 09:38
    Re: #69
    Which is exactly why salaries go through the roof if you don't keep it in check
    77AnonymousAug 28, 2026 09:36
    Re: #72
    Probably hard to pull off without real basketball IQ
    86AnonymousAug 28, 2026 09:48
    In basketball, could you just line up five 250cm guys and pass it over everyone's heads?
    87AnonymousAug 28, 2026 09:51
    Re: #86
    Sure, that's legal
    But the other team's got 250cm guys too, so the pass just gets picked off

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s men’s national team sits at No. 22 in the FIBA world rankings, a legacy boost from co-hosting the 2023 World Cup (which grants automatic qualification, sidestepping normal qualifiers). This tournament cycle they’re back in the standard Asian qualifying ladder, now in the second round, facing World No. 65 Saudi Arabia. Rui Hachimura, Japan’s first NBA first-round draft pick (Washington, 2019, now on an Exhibit 10 deal with the Clippers), has had a rocky relationship with the Japan Basketball Association — most notably over head coach Tom Hovasse’s selection philosophy, which for years built a system around domestic-league players rather than Hachimura. That rift, plus a since-departed federation president and strengthening-committee chief, forms the backdrop the thread references only in shorthand (“cut him loose,” “friction with the coach”).

    The thread’s real disagreement is less about the score and more about *why* Hachimura was even summoned for this stage: some see it as a low-stakes qualifier the domestic squad could’ve handled alone, risking a repeat of the coaching clash; others argue this round effectively functions as Olympic qualification, making his presence non-negotiable.

    What’s easy to miss: Saudi Arabia, at 169-170cm average height, is not a top-tier Asian program, so a 28-point blowout says more about the gap between an NBA rotation player and a modest FIBA-ranked side than about Japan’s overall competitiveness at the World Cup level. Also unmentioned in the thread — the match tipped off in the middle of the night in Japan (Jeddah time difference), which likely did more to tank the sub-1.2% ratings than “basketball just being an away-game sport,” the explanation posters settled on.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Basketball] Japan Men’s National Team Routs Saudi Arabia in a 100-Point Game — Rui Hachimura’s 29 Points Carry the Team on Both Ends, Off to a Strong Start Toward the World Cup“.

  • Aston Martin Considering Switch from Honda to Mercedes Power Units, Foreign Media Report

    Multiple foreign media outlets have reported that F1’s Aston Martin may switch its power unit supplier from Honda to Mercedes. It’s also been reported that Mercedes’ CEO has visited the team’s motorhome twice.

    On the forum thread, comments ranged from worry over whether Honda would have anywhere left to supply if the switch happens, to criticism of the chassis’s lack of performance, to people looking back on the circumstances behind the team’s split from Red Bull.

    This is truly a shockwave. Multiple foreign media outlets have reported that F1’s Aston Martin will switch its power unit (PU) supply deal from Honda — its partner since the start of this season — to Mercedes.

    The Aston Martin-Honda pairing has been mired in a historic slump since the season opener, rolling out a string of major upgrades across the summer break. With Fernando Alonso finishing 9th at the Dutch Grand Prix on the 26th, they finally seem to be catching a spark of momentum.

    Amid all this, Spain’s major newspaper Sport ran a story headlined “Shocking… Aston Martin holds talks with Mercedes, piling pressure on Honda.” It reported that “Mercedes’ CEO has now visited Aston Martin’s motorhome for a second time, fueling speculation over a possible change of power unit supplier.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:43
    If Aston picks Mercedes, what's Honda gonna do?
    Is there even a team left that'll sign with them?
    62AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:53
    Re: #3
    Nope.
    No team's gonna sign with them, so they'll probably just pull out
    4AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:45
    Nobody's even watching F1 anymore, are they?
    5AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:47
    Wasn't this supposed to be about Newey or something?
    7AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:50
    They're even losing to Audi, the new entrant.
    It's only hurting their image at this point — better to just pull out cleanly
    8AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:52
    Someone who had a patron backing them, but the scandal blew up so big they can no longer openly repay the favor
    9AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:56
    It's all down to 'Ahonda's' (Honda + idiot, a jab at the company) president flip-flopping
    11AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:58
    This automaker—
    even with the Cygnet, an OEM rebadge that flopped, they were still complaining about Toyota
    13AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:00
    Mercedes, a luxury automaker, obviously beats Honda, a kei-car maker, lol
    14AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:05
    I just wish European automakers would hurry up and go under
    15AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:08
    Like Williams — even with a Mercedes PU,
    if the chassis is bad you're still dead slow.
    Same story for Cadillac running the Ferrari PU.
    22AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:15
    Re: #15
    Williams had a golden era and has been stuck in a long slump since, but they've kept at it, huh
    16AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:08
    Well of course it's slow with an 'Enbo' engine — what a trap (unclear slang/nickname for the engine, but the point is it's a letdown)
    17AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:09
    The straight-line speed is so bad it's sad.
    With a Mercedes engine they'd normally be fighting for the top
    18AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:09
    Not happening.
    Mercedes already has a full roster of customer teams,
    and worse, they've said the burden's too much and want to cut the number of teams they supply
    21AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:12
    Well, now they've got a good excuse to quit. It really is just a waste of money, and competing in F1 accomplishes nothing anyway.
    25AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:16
    Re: #21
    I like F1 and root for Honda, but that doesn't make me want to buy a Honda car.
    I drive a Toyota myself
    23AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:15
    Aston's a perpetual midfield team to begin with.
    Even if Mercedes supplied them PUs with works-team treatment, I doubt they'd become podium regulars from year one.
    Though since Mercedes bundles the gearbox too, that'd help a lot.
    Actually, can a perpetual midfield team really just whip up a gearbox that easily, when they used to have it supplied by the PU maker?
    29AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:18
    Re: #23
    I saw an article — last year, I think — saying they poached a Red Bull engineer for the gearbox
    24AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:15
    Re: #1
    F1 was at its most fun back when Ukyo Katayama was landing podiums.
    Today's F1 keeps flip-flopping on the rules and it's boring
    27AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:16
    Thought it was finally back on terrestrial TV after ages,
    then it turned out to be just a digest — what a letdown
    37AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:27
    Wait, Aston doesn't build its own engines?
    And here they are selling ¥30 million cars
    43AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:34
    Re: #37
    Isn't Rolls-Royce the only British maker that actually builds engines?
    39AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:28
    Today's Honda is probably just a bunch of young engineers plodding along on transfers they never asked for.
    The ones who'd be happiest about a withdrawal are probably the young guys in-house
    46AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:35
    Re: #39
    The F1 engines are built by HRC, Honda's racing-specialist arm, so even if they pull out of F1, those engineers would probably just get reassigned to another racing program
    41AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:32
    Back in the 1970s supercar-boom trading cards, pulling the Aston Martin V8 card was a huge letdown, but looking at it now I think it's cooler than the Ferrari 512BB or Countach LP400
    47AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:37
    They started out with a Mercedes PU, switched to Honda, and look at the state of them now 🥹
    49AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:44
    Re: #47
    Even back in their Mercedes days, by the final season they were barely scraping into 10th-place fights
    56AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:49
    Re: #47
    It's not just the PU — they used to run a Mercedes-made gearbox too, but this year is the first time they've fitted an in-house one.
    That's still causing problems even now.
    British teams have always had this habit of blaming the other manufacturer's parts even when the problem is with their own components
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:46
    I wonder what Senna would say if he were still alive
    53AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:47
    Re: #51
    "Taka-san, give me my helmet back" (a running in-joke quote)
    52AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:46
    Honda should have just kept at F1 continuously since the Ayrton Senna era instead of doing it half-heartedly.
    That kind of thing is exactly what's behind the gap between Ferrari and Honda today
    55AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:48
    Re: #52
    Sometimes you just need to let things cool off for a while
    64AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:56
    Honestly, is it even right for Aston Martin to be running Honda's or Mercedes' power units in the first place?
    They should co-develop one with Jaguar, Rolls-Royce, or Cosworth instead
    66AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:58
    Re: #64
    Isn't that literally what Aston Martin is for?
    68AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:59
    Why did they split from Red Bull in the first place again?
    Was it Honda announcing their own withdrawal, then turning around and saying 'actually, we'll keep going'?
    72AnonymousAug 27, 2026 08:05
    Re: #68
    It was a free supply deal, and when Honda asked to get paid, the deal got torn up 🥹
    81AnonymousAug 27, 2026 08:14
    Honda probably doesn't have any decent talent left, huh
    83AnonymousAug 27, 2026 08:18
    Re: #81
    The bubble-era generation survivors are starting to retire,
    and the Ice Age generation (Japan's 'employment ice age' cohort hit by the hiring freeze of the 90s-2000s) is small in numbers,
    so the pool of people who've built up institutional knowledge is probably shrinking

    Background and Key Points

    Aston Martin’s power-unit history is more tangled than the headline suggests. The team (formerly Racing Point/Force India, owned by Lawrence Stroll) ran Mercedes engines and gearboxes from its 2021 rebrand through 2025. For 2026, F1 introduced all-new power-unit regulations (roughly 50% electrical power, sustainable fuel), and manufacturers reshuffled partnerships around that reset. Honda, which had technically “withdrawn” from F1 after 2021 while quietly continuing to build Red Bull’s engines through its racing subsidiary HRC, used the 2026 rules to re-enter as a full factory partner — but Red Bull chose to build its own engine instead, so Honda paired exclusively with Aston Martin. That deal is only months old, which is what makes a reported switch back to Mercedes so startling: works PU contracts are normally multi-year, and Aston Martin would also need to rebuild its own gearbox program, having only just brought that in-house this season after years of using Mercedes-supplied units.

    The thread’s real disagreement is whether the slump is even a Honda problem at all — several posters point to Williams (Mercedes PU) and Cadillac (Ferrari PU) still being slow, arguing a customer engine doesn’t fix a weak chassis, against others who take the switch talk at face value as an indictment of Honda.

    What’s easy to miss: this is Spanish outlet Sport’s speculation off two motorhome visits, not a confirmed deal — and Mercedes itself has said it wants fewer customer teams, not more, making a near-term switch logistically dubious regardless of performance.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geino/Sports Express+) thread “[F1] Shockwave! Aston Martin considering switch from Honda to Mercedes, “supply deal reportedly under discussion” — foreign media report.”

  • Hidemasa Morita: “I Promise I’ll Be Back There” — Hinting at a Japan Squad Return? Adds the Japanese Flag

    Hidemasa Morita, who transferred to Hull City, posted on X with a Japanese flag emoji saying, “I’ll definitely be back there, I promise,” hinting at his desire to return to the Japan national team — right after making his post-transfer debut in the Carabao Cup away at Stoke (a 1-1 draw settled on penalties).

    On the thread, plenty of posters expressed regret that Morita had been left out of call-ups under former manager Hajime Moriyasu, while others were more skeptical — noting he still hasn’t played a Premier League match and finding his performance against a second-tier side underwhelming, with opinions split further by comparisons to Ao Tanaka’s track record.

    MF Hidemasa Morita (31), taking on his first challenge in England’s Premier League, updated his X (formerly Twitter) account on the 26th, hinting at his intention to return to the Japan national team.

    Morita, who moved to Hull City from Portuguese powerhouse Sporting, made his first appearance since the transfer in the away match against Stoke on the 25th (the 26th, Japan time).

    On X, he shared his feelings: “After six years in Portugal, in an environment where not many people got to watch my matches, I’m happy to have come to England, where people can cheer me on even from Japan. But I recognize the Japanese supporters who checked in and cheered for me every match even back when I was at Sporting, and I’m truly grateful.” He then added, alongside a Japanese flag, “I’ll definitely be back there, I promise.”

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:49
    Moriyasu is seriously the biggest culprit here.
    Fire him already.
    41AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:31
    Re: #4
    Exactly this.
    Eight years under Poichi (nickname for manager Moriyasu) was way too much.
    And there's still another six months left.
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:50
    Benching one of the guys who helped get us through qualifying…
    He must have been so frustrated.
    38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:29
    Re: #5 Re: #1
    Morita's Hull only drew 1-1 with second-tier Stoke and needed a penalty shootout — that's not exactly praiseworthy…

    Also, this morning's match wasn't the Premier League, it was the Carabao Cup.
    39AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:29
    Re: #38
    Well, that's about right for his level.
    50AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:36
    Re: #38
    Because he never finishes chances like this.
    https://youtube.com/shorts/WkTA-kb5FO0?si=AeM0oOh4siiH81bb
    6AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:52
    He's better than Tanaka, and if they'd rotated him in as a backup alongside Kamada, it would've eased the load on Kamada too.
    The current national team roster is full of players who are too well-behaved and don't speak up enough.
    37AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:27
    Re: #6
    No, the stats already show Tanaka beats Morita in physicality, defense, and attacking output.
    52AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:36
    Re: #6
    Morita plays a different position from Tanaka — the guy whose position actually overlaps with his is Sano.
    It looks like Morita stopped getting call-ups right around when Sano got in, as some kind of swap.
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:45
    Re: #6
    This was his first match for Hull, and YouTube is flooded with videos making it look like some next-level performance, but honestly it wasn't that impressive — I felt the same kind of underwhelming vibe as with Tanaka.
    Even when he gets the ball, his movement is just sideways, and his dribbling to carry the ball forward looks sluggish.
    8AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:53
    Morita was really good.
    Moriyasu, just go away already.
    73AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:56
    Re: #8
    Morita's Hull only drew 1-1 with second-tier Stoke and needed a penalty shootout — not exactly praiseworthy…
    9AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:54
    But Japan loses whenever this guy's in the lineup, no?
    45AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:34
    Re: #9
    There's actually data showing Japan tends to lose more when Morita starts.
    He's just being conveniently used as a stick to beat Moriyasu-haters with.
    Barely anyone was even watching his matches before this anyway.
    10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:56
    Once Oiwa takes over there'll probably be a generational shift, so they won't pick a 31-year-old.
    12AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:57
    Is that an indirect dig at Moriyasu?
    74AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:57
    Re: #12
    People probably dislike you because you write stuff like this every time trying to stir things up.
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:02
    So basically he's sitting out the Asian Cup.
    Skipping the sinking ship that is Moriyasu's Japan.
    16AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:02
    Morita really is good enough to make you think the World Cup results might've been different if he'd been there.
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:03
    He probably never imagined that speaking his mind to Poichi (Moriyasu's nickname) would get him frozen out, lol
    It's all Tashima's fault.
    18AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:04
    So it's a matter of gritting it out (a reference to the proverb "lying on firewood, tasting gall" — enduring hardship for a future goal) until Moriyasu steps down?
    19AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:04
    If they'd called up Morita, they could've rotated players to give them rest, and had more midfield options too.
    20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:05
    I think the team will get a lot younger once Oiwa takes charge.
    No chance for Morita there.
    21AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:07
    There might be more, but he's already frozen out at least two guys.
    Can't bring myself to like Poichi.
    22AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:07
    For Japanese football, Morita is worth far more than Moriyasu.
    The eight years spent with Moriyasu weren't wasted,
    but it was such a waste — essentially zero titles.
    For a golden generation of players often called the strongest in Japanese history
    to have no title they can be proud of with the national team
    is just abnormal.
    23AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:07
    No matter who the manager is, they probably don't want to use a player who complains — but then again, someone like Doan, who ditched his ego and never spoke up for himself, feels kind of off too, honestly.
    29AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:10
    League level is what matters, right?

    Moriyasu — J.League

    Morita — Premier League
    Endo — Premier League
    Even the players who don't get picked are playing at a higher level than he ever did.
    67AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:50
    Re: #29
    That's exactly why Moriyasu was so attached to Nagatomo.

    On the surface, Nagatomo was positioned as some kind of spiritual pillar, but really, since Moriyasu doesn't have much of a playing career to back him up, he kept Nagatomo around to help win the other players over on his behalf.

    He actually said as much himself, in a conversation with baseball manager Kuriyama — that players based overseas are strong-willed, so how you get your message across affects squad selection.
    Kuriyama used Ohtani to hold the team together, but Moriyasu was just using Nagatomo the same way.
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:33
    Squad selection aside, the sheer lack of a game plan in the second half against Brazil was honestly shocking.
    51AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:36
    Re: #42
    Even giving him the benefit of the doubt on having no game plan, the way they just holed up in the second half and kept hoofing the ball forward at random whenever it came at them was deflating.
    55AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:37
    Re: #52
    No, the guy whose role actually overlaps with his is Kamada.
    70AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:54
    Re: #55
    Kamada?? Morita doesn't have anywhere near the attacking output that Kamada or Tanaka have.
    Morita even got scolded by Mitoma, who told him, "Hide, you're dropping too deep!" (Hide-kun being Morita's nickname)
    66AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:49
    Re: #63
    Ao Tanaka is on another level — he's dominated against top Premier League sides and earned real praise for it.

    Morita, meanwhile, has only played as a sub against a second-tier side and in a cup match so far.
    He still hasn't played in any of Europe's top five leagues.
    69AnonymousAug 26, 2026 23:53
    Re: #66 Re: #37
    Ao Tanaka played the full 90 minutes on his Premier League debut and was Man of the Match, putting in a huge, highly praised performance in a win.
    He's also scored against powerhouses like Chelsea and Liverpool, and got great reviews for dominating against Man United too.


    Tanaka's relentless pressing won a penalty and set up the goal that won the match.

    Even TV news reported him as Man of the Match.

    https://imgur.com/eOFBvzg.jpeg
    https://x.com/lufc/status/1957897908142870766

    Man of the Match according to Leeds' official channels too.
    Man of the Match according to media outlets like the BBC too.

    Ao Tanaka beat the very Everton side that beat Mitoma, Kamada, and Tomiyasu.

    Background and Key Points

    Hidemasa Morita spent six years at Sporting CP, one of Portugal’s “big three” clubs, before this summer’s move to Hull City — a transfer the article’s headline frames as “England’s Premier League,” but Hull actually play in the Championship, England’s second tier. That distinction matters: the Carabao Cup tie at Stoke, settled by penalties, was a domestic cup match between two second-tier sides, not a top-flight showcase. For readers unfamiliar with Japan’s setup, Hajime Moriyasu managed the national team for roughly eight years through the 2026 World Cup cycle, guiding a group widely called Japan’s strongest-ever generation (Mitoma, Kamada, Doan, Endo, Tomiyasu) to knockout-stage relevance without ever winning a trophy — hence posters’ frustration despite the individual talent involved. Kozo Tashima, mentioned in passing, is the Japan Football Association president who oversees managerial appointments. Go Oiwa is referenced as Moriyasu’s likely successor, expected to favor a younger core.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t whether Morita deserves sympathy — it’s whether his Hull debut actually proves anything. Sympathizers treat his exclusion as proof Moriyasu mismanaged a proven qualifier-era midfielder; skeptics counter that a Championship-level penalty shootout says nothing, and that Ao Tanaka’s Man-of-the-Match Premier League performances for Leeds against Chelsea, Liverpool and Everton make the comparison lopsided.

    What the thread never addresses: Morita and Tanaka aren’t really direct competitors for one slot — posters disagree even among themselves on whether his positional overlap is with Tanaka, Sano, or Kamada — so the “who’s better” framing may be comparing players who wouldn’t be fighting for the same shirt anyway.

    *This article was compiled as excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Soccer] Hidemasa Morita: “I’ll Definitely Be Back There, I Promise” — Hinting at a Japan Squad Return? Adds the Japanese Flag“.

  • Yuta Nakayama Set for Serbia Move — 5ch Reacts: ‘But He’s on 300 Million Yen at Machida?’

    Machida Zelvia (J1) defender Yuta Nakayama (29) has left the team ahead of a transfer to Serbian giants Red Star Belgrade, it was announced on the 26th. The transfer fee is estimated at around 180 million yen.

    Reactions on the forum were split over the move: some questioned the football logic (“why go out of your way for a so-so player like Nakayama?”), others lamented him walking away from such a sweet deal (“he’s making 300 million yen a year at Machida”), and still others worried about unpaid wages and tax issues.

    Sankei Sports, 2026/08/26 17:48

    Machida Zelvia (J1) announced on the 26th that former Japan national team defender Yuta Nakayama (29) has left the team to handle the paperwork and preparations for a transfer. The club says it will make an official announcement once things are finalized.

    According to Serbian and other European media, the move is all but confirmed to be to Red Star Belgrade, a powerhouse club in Serbia’s top flight. The transfer fee is believed to be around 1.1 million euros (roughly 180 million yen), with the final details of the contract reportedly being ironed out.

    Source: sanspo.com / Original article here

    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:58
    With so many players out there in the world, why on earth would they go out of their way to sign a so-so player like Nakayama?
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:59
    This club's basically the go-to spot for Korean players, isn't it?
    12AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:04
    Re: #1
    The transfer fee's way too cheap.
    Can't they just refuse to sell him for that price?
    60AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:37
    Re: #12
    He's over 30, so a multi-year deal is a risk.
    Weird that they'd even pay a fee to get him.
    68AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:44
    Re: #12
    Must be written into his contract —
    something like 'pay up if an offer comes from abroad.'
    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:04
    Season just started and he's already leaving for personal reasons, lol
    14AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:05
    The J.League's a higher level than Serbia anyway.
    18AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:09
    Re: #14
    Obviously.
    J1's ranked like 13th in the world, top tier stuff.
    16AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:07
    If it's Red Star he's going to, honestly feels like staying at Machida would've been the better move.
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:08
    Sounds like he wants back into the national team, but he's not exactly young anymore — no way that happens from a Serbian club.
    19AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:10
    My only impression of the Serbian league is that they don't pay salaries.
    20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:11
    Wonder what Mikić would've said about this one.

    Suzuki-shishō (nickname, 'the master') was there back in the day too — brings back memories.
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:16
    Re: #20
    Maybe he just admired Stojković and wanted to play in Serbia.
    His career's winding down anyway, so that's a legit choice. Though it does feel like it takes him further from the national team.
    22AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:11
    I can already picture the future where he's fighting over unpaid wages.
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:12
    He won't get picked for the national team from Machida.
    And he won't step up playing in Serbia either.
    Should've just stayed put at Machida.
    26AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:14
    Serbia isn't really a league you go to at the tail end of your career,
    and to step up from there to a major league you'd need Golden Boot-level numbers like Asano put up.
    If he wants back on the national team, staying at Machida and shining whenever the domestic-based guys get called up was probably his only real shot.
    29AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:15
    Re: #1
    Red Star, Partizan —
    both of the Serbian SuperLiga's big two have names that scream 'former communist country.'
    30AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:15
    Nakayama's career peak was that mid-range shot against Brazil at U-22 level.
    31AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:15
    These days there's apparently a system where you punch in the type of player a team needs plus the budget, and it pulls up suitable candidates from players worldwide —
    he probably got flagged by something like that.
    Given his age, this is probably his last shot in Europe.
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:17
    He can play center-back, full-back, and defensive mid, he's left-footed, can take free kicks, and has a track record in the Eredivisie, the Championship, and the national team —
    honestly, by any normal logic there should be plenty of demand for a guy like that.
    35AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:18
    No dreams to be found in a 'tax league.' (slang for a league players join mainly for the low taxes, not the football)
    40AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:23
    Re: #35
    What are you talking about —
    this guy's pulling in 300 million yen a year at Machida.
    44AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:27
    Re: #40
    The ones who look down on 'tax leagues' the most are the 'tax leaguers' themselves.
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:19
    Salaries were already low to begin with, and now there's the weak yen on top of it.
    That's why even Eastern Europe is poaching players.
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:28
    Re: #36
    Machida surely pays the higher salary.
    72AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:47
    Re: #36
    He's on 300 million yen at Machida??
    39AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:23
    Pretty par for the course with a 'tax league.'
    47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:29
    Wild.
    He's on 300 million at Machida and an Eastern European club is apparently offering even more than that.
    Poland and the rest of the region must be getting rich.
    52AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:31
    Re: #47
    No way they're paying more than that.
    59AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:36
    Rumor has it it's more like 70 million yen.
    62AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:37
    Re: #59
    Wait, what happens with taxes at that rate then, lol
    67AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:42
    Re: #59
    200 million yen, 3-year deal.
    Though taxes are low in Serbia.
    In Japan isn't the rate like 60% on 300 million?
    61AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:37
    He's got a bunch of national team caps under his belt, so I don't get why he couldn't step up and instead came back down to Machida — must've just been chasing quick cash.
    70AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:46
    Re: #61
    Probably to recover from an injury.
    69AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:45
    Everyone keeps hyping up Machida's signings, but it's funny — what's impressive is the salaries, not the actual quality of the players.
    74AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:48
    Re: #69
    Then go beat Machida, lol
    80AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:50
    The transfer fee's being paid in installments over 3 years, and salary payments are often late too.
    86AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:10
    Re: #80
    Splitting an already-cheap transfer fee over 3 years, lol
    Doubtful they'll pay the whole thing.

    Background and Key Points

    Machida Zelvia is the J.League club owned by mobile-gaming giant DeNA, whose deep pockets fueled a rapid rise from J2 to J1 in 2024 and a reputation — among rival fans on 5ch — for outspending its results, with commentators here repeating that Machida is known more for salaries than for on-pitch quality. Red Star Belgrade, by contrast, is one of the two dominant clubs in Serbia’s SuperLiga (with rival Partizan) and a genuine continental heavyweight, having won the European Cup in 1991, Yugoslavia’s last before the country’s breakup — a pedigree the thread never brings up despite framing Serbia as a backwater “tax league.”

    The split in the thread isn’t really about whether the move makes sense on paper; it’s between posters questioning the football logic (why pay a fee at all for a 29-year-old squad player) and posters fixated on the money, repeatedly citing an unverified “300 million yen at Machida” figure to argue he’s downgrading financially for a move to a league they associate with delayed wages and low pay.

    What the thread misses is that Japanese club salaries are not publicly disclosed, so the 300-million-yen number circulating is speculation, not reported fact — nobody in the thread cites a source for it. Readers should also know the low, roughly 180-million-yen fee for a full international more likely reflects an exit clause or a player pushing to leave than the market undervaluing him, which the “why so cheap” posts don’t consider.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread “[Soccer] Machida Zelvia (J1)’s former Japan national team DF Yuta Nakayama leaves the team amid transfer talks — move to Serbian giants Red Star Belgrade looks all but certain.”

  • FC Tokyo Warns Fans Over Insulting Chant Parodies and Abuse — 5ch: “‘Please Stop’? That’s Not Gonna Cut It (lol)”

    FC Tokyo issued a warning to fans and supporters on its official website after confirming multiple incidents of misconduct, including social media abuse directed at specific players and insulting chant parodies referencing the names of companies and organizations. On 5ch, reactions were split — some mocked the statement’s weak phrasing (“please refrain from this, absolutely”), while others compared the situation to chant culture in other sports and at other clubs.

    August 25, 2026, 13:18 | Soccer

    Sports Nippon (Sponichi Annex) Reporting Team

    FC Tokyo updated its official website on the 25th, calling on fans and supporters to exercise caution after confirming multiple problematic incidents, including social media slander targeting specific players and insulting chant parodies that include the names of specific companies and organizations.

    Source: sponichi.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:40
    Is calling them "Gasu" (a dig referencing former sponsor Tokyo Gas) actually an insult? (´・ω・`)
    3AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:40
    Insulting the other team is part of soccer culture too, no?
    4AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:41
    So that puts them on the same level as Hanshin Tigers fans. That's pretty embarrassing.
    9AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:42
    Expecting soccer fans to have any decorum… good luck with that.
    11AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:43
    The only thing they've got over Machida is the stadium and how easy it is to reach.
    14AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:45
    "Please stop"? Come on, that's not gonna cut it (lol)
    15AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:46
    I went to the Tokyo Derby for the grand opening of Ajinomoto Stadium, and FC Tokyo's ultras behind the goal spent the whole game chanting "Verdy Kawasaki" at Tokyo Verdy. Never went back since.
    16AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:46
    The Premier League is nothing but trash talk, and the J.League's still playing house like this?
    17AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:47
    The pitcher's shaking in his boots lol. Hey hey hey lol
    18AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:47
    Guess we'll start seeing some FC Tokyo supporters flip into anti-fans over this, like that "buchikurase" ("smash 'em") chant controversy with Giravanz Kitakyushu.
    19AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:48
    To the tune of the Triumphal March from Aida: "Oh-oh, we're just country bumpkins from Tokyo, ohhh, ohhhhhh~"
    28AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:52
    Guess this kind of culture exists in both baseball and soccer.
    32AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:53
    30 years ago they were singing at Kazu (Miura Kazuyoshi), "That King who doesn't move anymore~" (a parody of the 'Grandfather's Clock' lyrics)
    37AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:55
    He's still moving though
    44AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:59
    He's still moving lol
    59AnonymousAug 25, 2026 19:03
    That wasn't about Kazu, it was about Takeda.
    33AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:53
    The Trash-uri Giants are eternally filthy!" (a pun mocking "Yomiuri" as sounding like "garbage-seller," parodying Nagashima's famous "eternally undying" line)
    38AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:56
    The fact that Ueda Asahi was in on this from the start tells you exactly what kind of crowd thinks trashing other teams counts as supporting your own.
    83AnonymousAug 25, 2026 19:20
    Bandwagon supporters, plain and simple.
    41AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:57
    Didn't realize soccer crowds boo during the away team's player introductions. Went to a match for the first time in a while recently and it caught me off guard.
    60AnonymousAug 25, 2026 19:04
    Probably a player who transferred out, right? Happens in baseball too — booing a guy who left via free agency.
    69AnonymousAug 25, 2026 19:10
    Yeah, stuff like that happens — like when Marinos supporters set off a flare during the Yokohama derby and it hit a food truck.
    71AnonymousAug 25, 2026 19:11
    The "death yakisoba" incident at the Kashiwa match was awful too (a notorious food-related scandal).
    107AnonymousAug 25, 2026 19:30
    Everyone's forgotten Verdy used to be the Yomiuri club, and yet these soccer fans still can't update their mental database. The boomer mentality is off the charts.
    108AnonymousAug 25, 2026 19:31
    The fact that this kind of thing runs rampant shows the fanbase skews pretty narrow. And tolerating this vibe just makes it feel like an insular little village culture.

    Background and Key Points

    FC Tokyo is one of J.League’s Tokyo-based clubs, playing out of Ajinomoto Stadium in Chofu; the warning notice cited both online abuse of individual players and chant parodies mocking the names of sponsor/rival-linked companies and organizations. The “Gasu” jab referenced in the thread traces to Tokyo Gas, a former major sponsor, and reflects a long-running strain of parody chants aimed at rivals like Tokyo Verdy and Machida Zelvia — the “Verdy Kawasaki” taunt one poster describes dates back to Verdy’s own franchise history, when the club was known as Yomiuri/Verdy Kawasaki before relocating to Tokyo, a piece of trivia several posters flagged as widely forgotten by younger fans. J.League clubs, like most Japanese pro sports organizations, tend to issue soft, formally-worded appeals rather than concrete sanctions when addressing fan misconduct, which is what triggered the mockery in the thread.

    The split wasn’t over whether the incidents happened, but over whether insulting chants are a legitimate part of soccer support culture or a genuine problem — several posters argued that rivalry-based trash talk is standard practice worldwide (invoking the Premier League) and even in Japanese baseball fandom, while others said normalizing it just breeds insular, “village-like” fan culture and open animosity, comparing it unfavorably to Hanshin Tigers baseball fans, long stereotyped as Japan’s rowdiest.

    What’s easy to miss is that this notice names companies and organizations, not just individuals — meaning FC Tokyo is likely responding to potential defamation or corporate-sponsor liability exposure, not simply hurt feelings, which is a harder-edged legal concern than the thread’s joking tone suggests.

    This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[J.League] FC Tokyo Issues Statement Over “Insulting Chant Parodies” and Abuse: “As a Club, We Cannot Overlook This” / “Please, Absolutely Stop”.”