Category: Sports

  • Japan Volleyball Association Statement: ‘Athletes Are a Real Person on the Other Side of the Screen’ — Responds to Online Abuse

    On September 25, the Japan Volleyball Association posted a statement on its official website titled “A Request Regarding Harassment of Players.” The statement calls on fans to understand and be considerate of players as “real people on the other side of the screen” when it comes to abuse via social media, and reveals that some players are experiencing anxiety and fear. The statement appears to have been prompted by a wave of comments about players’ conduct and appearance following a straight-sets loss to host nation China at the Asian Games. Reactions on 5ch were split: some pointed to the heavy burden of filing disclosure requests (to unmask anonymous posters), while others pushed back, arguing the association was “trying to silence criticism by calling it harassment” — dividing opinion over where criticism ends and abuse begins.

    On the 25th, the Japan Volleyball Association (a public interest incorporated foundation) updated its official website with a statement titled “A Request Regarding Harassment of Players,” calling on fans to show understanding and consideration regarding online harassment directed at players.

    The association opened with thanks: “The warm support you all send is a huge source of strength for the players as they stand on the court and compete.” It went on to explain, “Every day, the players build up practice and preparation for each and every moment of the match.

    In a match, sometimes they’re able to play exactly as they envisioned, and sometimes the results just don’t come. Even so, the players stand on the court carrying the feelings of their teammates, staff, and everyone cheering for them,” the statement explained.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    7AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:42
    I don't get it.

    If you've got a problem with accounts posting that kind of harassment, take it up directly with the social media platforms that let them run wild.
    57AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:57
    Re: #7
    That's a warning aimed at individuals on top of addressing it directly.
    No matter how much you complain to the platform itself, you might get the same kind of treatment old-school 2channel [the original forum 5ch evolved from] used to dish out, and that's unbearable.
    Even though filing disclosure requests (to unmask anonymous posters) has gotten easier, it's still a ton of effort.
    And even when you're going to pursue legal action, if you don't put out a warning like this first, the other side can seize on that and fly off the handle.
    Laws around online abuse still haven't caught up, which is why all these problems keep boiling over lately.
    12AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:43
    ◯ Lost in straight sets to China at home
    ◯ Was putting on lip balm mid-match

    Poor thing (sarcasm)
    64AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:59
    Re: #12
    Other sports don't have players putting on lip balm mid-match.
    Earrings are banned too, or taped down so they don't fall off or snag on anything.
    17AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:45
    Isn't the lip balm during the match just about dryness, not looks?
    More like treating an injury than a beauty thing, no?
    23AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:47
    Re: #17
    If she weren't blonde, this would've just fizzled out as nitpicking.
    36AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:51
    Re: #17
    Re: #29
    But she went out of her way to pull out a mirror to apply it.
    29AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:50
    Apparently the lip balm is a high-moisture type, for dealing with dryness.
    69AnonymousSep 25, 2026 18:00
    Re: #29
    Still, just tough it out during the match.
    32AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:50
    Telling an athlete who made it all the way to the national team not to dress up, or that earrings are dangerous — that's just dumb.
    41AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:53
    Re: #32
    Hitoshi Matsumoto demands more hunger from 'Zac Japan' [the men's soccer team under coach Zaccheroni]! "How about we all get buzz cuts?"

    Comedy duo Downtown's Hitoshi Matsumoto, on the talk show "Wide Na Show" (Fuji TV) airing on the 29th,
    laid out his own take on Japan's national soccer team after their group-stage exit at the Brazil World Cup, saying they lacked hunger.
    Matsumoto argued, "They need to build up more hunger," adding, "How about we drop the sponsors, the commercials, the fancy outfits for once,
    and everyone gets a buzz cut and plays in a green jersey with white, with a number sewn on by their mom…" — arguing they should go back to basics.
    40AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:52
    I wish they'd watch that Ad Council 'Masked Abuse Session' commercial —
    it'd hit these keyboard warriors hard and leave them riddled with holes.
    43AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:53
    Re: #40
    Soccer fans say it to players' faces in real life too — that's what real fans do, surrounding the team bus and shouting abuse.
    52AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:55
    Way too many people out there trying to shut down criticism by calling it harassment.
    60AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:57
    Re: #52
    Actually there are more people arguing the opposite.
    53AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:56
    Funny how the men's and women's teams swapped places at some point without anyone noticing.
    54AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:56
    Re: #53
    That's because Shunichi Kawai [former volleyball star turned TV commentator] was just that good.
    59AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:57
    Soccer gets like 100 times the criticism volleyball does —
    you guys are way too soft.
    61AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:59
    Re: #59
    The J.League's always making public statements about their feelings too, though.
    74AnonymousSep 25, 2026 18:02
    There's nothing wrong with wearing lip balm or earrings at all —
    it's the sheer nastiness of it that's sick.
    76AnonymousSep 25, 2026 18:04
    Re: #74
    I'm the mentally-unstable type myself (menhera), so I know plenty of people like that, but the ones who actually post this kind of harassment are a tiny minority.
    87AnonymousSep 25, 2026 18:09
    Re: #74
    If you're weak but still dress yourself up, people are going to talk.

    Brings back memories of Neymar mocking Japan's national soccer team, saying "Isn't there something you should be doing before worrying about your hairstyle?"
    78AnonymousSep 25, 2026 18:04
    But if that alone gets you down, you were weak to begin with.
    82AnonymousSep 25, 2026 18:06
    Re: #76
    It's a tiny minority of those types who post the most.
    That's the "noisy minority" for you —
    they never get tired of keeping it up.
    92AnonymousSep 25, 2026 18:10
    Re: #82
    Yeah, I know that.
    They stick around for years — not just one or two, but double-digit years like it's nothing… at first we try to communicate with them too.
    Then you get worn down thinking "huh, I guess some people's minds just work differently 🥲," and move on to the next stage…
    84AnonymousSep 25, 2026 18:07
    Re: #76
    There's no correlation between being a menhera and being someone who posts harassment.
    86AnonymousSep 25, 2026 18:08
    It's because you can't see any desperation to win from them.
    91AnonymousSep 25, 2026 18:10
    Re: #86
    Nobody can see your supposedly burning desire to get a job either.

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    When it comes to online harassment, filing a disclosure request to identify anonymous posters is costly and labor-intensive, and legislation hasn’t kept pace. In the thread, alongside voices saying “disclosure is the only way,” there was also an understanding of why fans can’t simply leave it up to platform operators, given how heavy a burden that route is. The statement itself appears to have been prompted by the women’s national volleyball team’s straight-sets loss to host China at the Asian Games, and the thread’s biggest point of contention was where “criticism” crosses over into “harassment.” On the lip balm and earrings worn during the match, opinions split between defending it as protection against dryness and questioning whether players have the luxury to worry about appearance — showing how easily judgments about looks and conduct get tangled up with discussion of the game itself. The conversation also touched on how the women’s team has overtaken the men’s team in prominence in recent years, and comparisons with the criticism culture around other sports like soccer, highlighting how hard it is to draw a line between harassment aimed at individual players and blunt criticism of the sport as a whole.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Asian Games] Japan Volleyball Association issues statement on player harassment: “A real person on the other side of the screen” — some players feel anxiety and fear.”

  • Kubo Takefusa’s “Boo the Opponent Too” Comment Sparks Debate After Uruguay Match That Drew 40,000 Fans

    On September 24, Japan’s national team beat Uruguay 3-1 at Q&A Stadium Miyagi. After the match, reports emerged that Takefusa Kubo had said something to the effect of “I’d honestly rather you boo when the other team gets a chance.” The comment split opinion on a thread in 5ch’s Geinou/Sports Breaking News+ (“Geisoku”) board. Some praised the “good manners” of applauding the opponent’s fine plays, while others fired back harshly, pointing to Kubo’s own form and his limited playing time at Real Sociedad, telling him to “let your own results speak first.”

    “I think the atmosphere was good, but…”

    On September 24, Japan’s national team faced Uruguay at Q&A Stadium Miyagi and won a close contest 3-1.

    [Photos] Ratings for all 19 Japan players who played against Uruguay, plus the manager! Top marks went to the 23-year-old midfielder who made a stunning debut, while Ueda (1 goal, 1 assist) and match-winner Shiogai also earned high praise

    Source: soccerdigestweb.com / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:51
    Think he can catch up to Lee Kang-in? (the South Korean winger, a common comparison point for Kubo)
    6AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:58
    Re: #2
    Whoa, that was fast
    Are you just refreshing the thread list nonstop?
    36AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:41
    Re: #2
    Dude already lost out to Minamino, Ito, and Nakamura, lol
    77AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:15
    Re: #2
    Probably a lost cause at this point
    3AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:56
    Re: #1
    He doesn't need to show up for the national team for a while
    though he might already be done for good
    4AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:57
    Holding back on booing the opponent is actually something to be proud of, if you ask me
    5AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:58
    Winning or losing a friendly doesn't matter at all — honestly getting thrashed would help the team more
    Someone tell the JFA to book tougher opponents
    7AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:01
    Maybe focus on doing well for your club first
    8AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:03
    This made it crystal clear Kubo's useless out on the right
    He was only ever a functional player centrally, fed passes by Ito
    16AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:06
    Re: #8
    Anyone who actually watches Sociedad already knows that
    27AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:20
    Re: #8
    He's useless in the middle,
    that's exactly why they stick him out on the right
    9AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:04
    How could you possibly boo a team that flew in from literally the other side of the world in Europe to give a friendly their full effort
    10AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:04
    Don't ask the impossible from a fair-weather national-team crowd
    It's not like they're Urawa Reds ultras
    14AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:06
    They just keep chanting "Oh, Nippon!" nonstop regardless of what's happening
    15AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:06
    What is this guy even talking about
    Reminds me of Honda
    17AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:07
    In Japan, if you boo at a soccer match, you're the one who ends up getting criticized for it
    18AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:09
    Japan still isn't a truly hardcore soccer nation

    It's often said the fans, refs, and coaches haven't caught up with how much the players themselves have grown
    19AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:09
    A Sociedad bench-warmer sure has a way with words
    25AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:19
    No one better than Kubo has come along
    and even if someone does, they'll top out at Kubo's level anyway
    28AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:22
    Typical Spain, where slurs fly around freely
    29AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:22
    A bench player from a club that's nothing special is the face of the national team
    and yet that national team is actually pretty strong
    Guess that really is down to manager Moriyasu
    30AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:35
    I get wanting to play comfortably at home, but
    I don't think it's good to turn into one of those foreign crowds that boo whenever the other team attacks
    And this was just a friendly, remember
    We might come off as pushovers for it, but I think good plays deserve applause even when they're from the away side
    If that's not acceptable, then soccer just isn't suited to Japanese fans
    32AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:36
    > He doesn't want the crowd getting hyped up when the opponent gets a chance

    What a gentle world
    Nothing wrong with just enjoying the soccer for what it is
    Drawing 40,000 people to Miyagi on a Thursday night right after a long holiday weekend is impressive though
    33AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:37
    A foul is one thing, but booing the opponent just for getting a scoring chance seems like bad manners to me.
    35AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:39
    Have people already forgotten how pathetic the World Cup showing was?
    Given his own situation at his club, he's in no position to be telling fans something like that
    Way too embarrassing
    38AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:45
    Not booing Japan's own pathetic play, you mean? (lol)
    54AnonymousSep 25, 2026 11:29
    Where exactly is Kubo supposed to play to actually be effective?
    57AnonymousSep 25, 2026 11:33
    Re: #54
    Next to the commentator in the broadcast booth
    65AnonymousSep 25, 2026 11:57
    Re: #54
    Sitting quietly on the bench
    82AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:26
    When did it get like this?
    Back in the day people booed normally, and Jo (Shoji Joe, the former Japan striker) even had raw eggs thrown at him
    Somehow it turned into players going home happy, praised for picking up litter in the stands instead
    88AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:33
    Re: #82
    I'd guess the top supporter groups have just been tamed by the federation
    91AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:41
    Is "as long as it's entertaining, it doesn't matter who wins, even in an international match" a uniquely Japanese attitude?
    96AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:47
    Re: #91
    Number magazine reported that at this World Cup, Mexican fans were the most easygoing of all — even after a loss, neither the fans nor the media went hunting for a scapegoat

    Background and Points of Debate

    Even though it was only a friendly, the match drew over 40,000 spectators to Miyagi, and Takefusa Kubo’s comment drew attention against the backdrop of Japan’s soccer-watching culture. In some European leagues it isn’t unusual for fans to boo the opposing team’s good plays, whereas in Japan applause for the opponent and “omotenashi”-style (hospitality-minded) support have become the norm — Kubo’s request can be read as acknowledging that cultural gap. Opinions on the thread split over one specific point: whether to praise the suggestion as a matter of courtesy and fair-play spirit, or, given Kubo’s limited playing time and position at his club, to see it as a case where “results should come before words.” Kubo has been the subject of ongoing reports about his lack of playing time at Sociedad, and that context appears to be fueling much of the critical reaction.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Soccer] “I want you backing us up” — Takefusa Kubo makes an “unusual” request of a crowd of over 40,000: “I’d honestly rather you boo…”“.

  • Japan Beats Uruguay 3-1 — Tatsuhito Kaneko’s “Disappointing Match” Verdict Sparks Debate

    On September 24, 2026, Japan’s national soccer team beat Uruguay 3-1 in an international friendly at Q&A Stadium Miyagi, with Matsuki and Shiogai both scoring their first goals for the national team. Sports writer Tatsuhito Kaneko, however, argued in a column that for a country seriously aiming to win the World Cup, it was a “disappointing match.” On 5ch, the discussion focused less on whether that verdict was fair and more on Kaneko himself — his reputation as a “reverse jinx” (a commentator whose predictions tend to be wrong) and surprise at seeing his name again after so long dominated the thread more than the debate over the match itself.

    [Soccer International Friendly: Japan 3-1 Uruguay (September 24, 2026, Q&A Stadium Miyagi)] We beat Uruguay, two-time World Cup champions and one of South America’s great old powers! And by 3-1, no less! Matsuki and Shiogai both scored their first goals for the national team! Wonderful!

    But the only people entitled to celebrate that way are those who still think Japan’s only goal at the World Cup is reaching the knockout stage.

    By the time the match passed the 90-minute mark, my honest impression was: disappointing match.

    Source: sponichi.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:56
    It was a word that never came up for Hidetoshi Nakata, Shinji Ono, or Shunsuke Nakamura.

    Genius.
    82AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:28
    Re: #5
    I've even forgotten whether this was Kakitani or Usami.
    7AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:56
    Coach Moriyasu's leaving anyway in early February
    8AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:57
    Kimuko's still alive, huh…" ("Kimuko" is a mocking 5ch nickname for Kaneko)
    10AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:58
    Uruguay may be out of the tournament, but they only let mighty Spain get 6 shots on goal.
    And that was even after going down to 10 men on a red card.

    People need to stop trashing the opponent just to score points against Japan.
    57AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:19
    Re: #10
    'Uruguay is amazing!' — hyping up Japan that way makes people happier, huh.
    11AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:58
    This guy genuinely has no eye for talent.
    12AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:58
    Kimuko's still kicking? Thought he'd died along with Osugi. ("Osugi" is a nickname for fellow soccer journalist Shigeki Sugiyama)
    31AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:03
    Re: #12
    Wait, did Osugi actually die?
    13AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:59
    It's genuinely disappointing how low the bar is for soccer writers when the goal is a real World Cup title.
    That Kaneko guy especially just doesn't cut it.
    14AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:59
    Trashing Uruguay just to bash Japan is disrespectful, come on.
    15AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:59
    Noooiiiiiii

    Feels like something you just gotta shout once every 7 months or so ☺ (an old meme cry that resurfaces whenever his name comes up)
    16AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:59
    > By the way, why did Shiogai, after scoring, do a 'Shh!' toward the stands? I was hoping the article would have the answer somewhere.


    Someone please explain.
    23AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:01
    Re: #16
    On top of getting slammed for his attitude in the Brazil match, he'd also been catching flak for going scoreless since then in the German second division — guess he just snapped.
    64AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:23
    Re: #16
    Isn't that basically begging for the retort 'isn't digging that up literally your job as a journalist'?
    17AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:59
    Oh, this guy's still around. He flopped writing a regular novel and I hadn't seen him since.
    27AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:02
    Re: #17
    He's a regular on Sun TV, you know. (a Kansai regional broadcaster)
    18AnonymousSep 25, 2026 09:59
    A rambling wall of text that goes nowhere.
    Can't be bothered to read it.
    20AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:00
    So Uruguay's even worse than that?
    22AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:01
    Wait, Kimuko's still involved in soccer at all?
    25AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:01
    That 'Shh!' thing bugged me too… It's probably about the Neymar incident, right?
    26AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:02
    Meanwhile Seishu Hase, who used to make noise about soccer right alongside him, went on to win the Naoki Prize (a major Japanese literary award).
    28AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:02
    First time I've seen his name in like 20 years. Didn't realize he was still writing soccer articles.
    29AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:03
    Says a lot about the state of soccer writing that Kaneko can still hang around.
    32AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:04
    If reverse-jinx Kaneko says so, we can relax — means passing in tight spaces is pointless, so they'll stop doing it. ("reverse jinx" = his takes are famous for being wrong, so whatever he criticizes tends to work out)
    34AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:05
    Making the round of 32 count as 'winning' — that's a joke even overseas by now.
    35AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:06
    Kaneko's got it easy — toss out lazy negativity and get paid for it.
    36AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:06
    As for Zion, he's probably just been watching Aston Villa's YouTube highlight reels lately lol
    37AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:07
    Does he really need to go out of his way to write that Hayakawa was lackluster?
    It's a pointless column.
    38AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:07
    Doan, who openly declared he wanted to win the World Cup, was trying to transfer to Saudi Arabia lol.
    Nobody's seriously aiming for the top lol
    39AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:07
    We need more players who can win individual battles moment to moment.
    Even ones who can't always win outright still need to be willing to take a man on.
    Thinking only about using teammates just won't cut it.
    40AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:07
    Play-by-play: Crackie, commentary: Kimuko — in the end, it's always this combo.
    48AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:13
    Re: #23
    That's such a minor topic confined to some narrow corner of the internet — the general public watching the national team match has no clue, it's just youthful foolishness.
    Though Shiogai himself reportedly said that Ueda, who calmly scored the third goal without any theatrics, looked more composed and cooler, so he's probably self-aware about it.
    Point being, scoring one goal in a friendly is no reason to put on a little solo drama.
    52AnonymousSep 25, 2026 10:16
    Re: #48
    Shiogai's still just a kid, after all.

    Background and Key Points

    Tatsuhito Kaneko is a veteran writer who has covered Japan’s national team for years, known for columns that hand down harsh verdicts even after a win — on 5ch he’s earned the nickname “reverse jinx,” mocking how often his predictions and assessments miss the mark. In this thread too, reactions focused less on rebutting the column’s actual claim (that the performance wasn’t up to World Cup-winning standard) and more on surprise at seeing his name again after so long, plus commentary on his track record. This kind of “pile-on-the-columnist” thread tends to turn into a referendum on the writer’s reputation rather than a technical assessment of the match, so readers shouldn’t mistake the thread’s energy for a verdict on the game itself. It’s also worth noting that opinions on just how strong Uruguay actually was are divided, and the thread alone doesn’t offer objective confirmation either way.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “[Soccer] Tatsuhito Kaneko: If this is a country seriously aiming for the top of the world… a disappointing match“.

  • FIFA Releases Latest Rankings — 5ch Reacts: “Japan and Iran Are Ranked Way Too High”

    FIFA (the International Federation of Association Football) released its latest rankings dated September 25, 2026, sparking discussion over the standings of World Cup-qualified North and Central American nations and Japan’s national team. On a thread on 5ch’s Geinou/Sports Breaking News+ board, posters repeatedly argued that Japan and Iran are ranked higher than their actual ability, that Italy — despite failing to qualify for the World Cup — remains near the top, and that Mexico and the US may be getting a boost simply from playing more matches within their own confederation. The discussion spiraled into broader doubts about how the FIFA ranking formula itself works.

    Football Channel, 9/25

    Here are positions 1 through 100 of the latest FIFA rankings (dated September 25, 2026), released by FIFA. This covers the current rankings of national teams — including the Japan national team — calculated from results at the FIFA World Cup, continental qualifiers, and continental championships.

    Soccer FIFA Rankings, 1st–10th (as of September 25, 2026)

    Source: footballchannel.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:21
    Now THIS is a meaningful world ranking
    3AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:21
    Japan and Iran are ranked way too high.
    Also, Australia should be below 50th.
    40AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:45
    Re: #3
    Australia made it to the Round of 32, though.
    4AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:22
    Mexico's ranking is high.
    They're probably about as strong as Japan.
    35AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:42
    Re: #4
    Same goes for Belgium — and 'Mehico' (a casual Spanish-style nickname for Mexico) feels off too.
    5AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:22
    No way Japan is ranked above Norway.
    Same goes for the US and Switzerland.
    As always, anything below 10th is a completely random ranking lmao
    7AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:23
    Re: #5
    More than that, Italy's ranking is the real head-scratcher lol
    It's like they're still living off their old reputation.
    8AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:23
    Isn't there a plus/minus adjustment for points or something?
    Iran lost to Uzbekistan, you know.
    10AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:25
    Looking at yesterday's match result, I guess I can buy that this is roughly the actual gap in ability between Japan and Uruguay.
    11AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:25
    Italy hasn't made the World Cup in ages, yet their ranking is still high.
    15AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:28
    Why does Russia get to sit at 36th when they barely even play any matches?
    23AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:33
    Re: #15
    There's another 'sport' out there that ranks countries despite barely holding any international matches too —

    WBSC Men's Baseball World Rankings, Top 10 (updated March 26, 2026):
    1st: Japan (6,337 points)
    2nd: Chinese Taipei (5,302 points)
    3rd: United States (4,357 points)
    4th: South Korea (4,239 points)
    5th: Venezuela (3,992 points)
    6th: Puerto Rico (3,298 points)
    7th: Mexico (3,227 points)
    8th: Panama (2,744 points)
    9th: Australia (2,425 points)
    10th: Netherlands (2,358 points)
    26AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:36
    How is the US even boosting its ranking?
    36AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:42
    Re: #26
    Re: #28
    They hold a continental championship every 2 years, plus they've got the Nations League on top of that.
    It's basically a two-horse race between Mexico and the US with everyone else being minnows, so their rankings end up pretty inflated.
    57AnonymousSep 25, 2026 08:08
    Re: #26
    The Gold Cup — basically 'doping' for their ranking, continental-championship style.
    Funny how a 'continental championship' happens every 2 years and always seems to be hosted in the US.
    28AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:36
    Mexico at 10th is also inflated.
    Apparently this is the first time in decades they've won a knockout-round match.
    34AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:41
    I don't really think Japan is weaker than the US. But if they played and Japan actually won, would Trump call up afterward saying 'that red card on the US was unfair'?
    37AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:43
    Re: #34
    Japan played the US before the World Cup and got thrashed.
    So this ranking checks out.
    38AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:44
    Japanese soccer doesn't have a real superstar anymore, so it's kind of dull.
    Japan's supposed ace is riding the bench on some second-rate club team.
    39AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:44
    Japan > Norway? Yeah right, no way that's real.
    43AnonymousSep 25, 2026 07:51
    Re: #39
    Italy conceded 6 goals in a single European qualifier against Norway, and they're still ranked above both countries.
    53AnonymousSep 25, 2026 08:02
    There's just no way Japan is ranked above Norway.
    59AnonymousSep 25, 2026 08:12
    They're stuck at this position because they haven't played many matches against top-tier countries, but their ranking will climb once they face more European teams.
    65AnonymousSep 25, 2026 08:14
    Re: #59
    So basically they can't move up because they don't get matches against Europe.
    Maybe if they won 4 games at the actual tournament, they'd crack the top 10?
    64AnonymousSep 25, 2026 08:14
    Cape Verde, 64th.
    69AnonymousSep 25, 2026 08:18
    Re: #64
    Guess you don't even know how the FIFA ranking is calculated lol
    It's a 4-year cumulative total, so even one great year won't bump you up that much.
    71AnonymousSep 25, 2026 08:20
    Japan's ranking seems about right.
    The ones that feel too high are Mexico, Italy, and Iran.
    Russia's ranking, though, is just a mystery.
    79AnonymousSep 25, 2026 08:24
    Re: #71
    Isn't the Latin American powerhouse 'Chihuahua-land' (a joking nickname for Mexico) about right? If anything, the Alpine powerhouse 'Heidi-land' (a joking nickname for Switzerland) seems way too high…
    72AnonymousSep 25, 2026 08:20
    What were you footy nerds (サカ豚, a derisive term for die-hard soccer fans) even watching during the Brazil match?
    The fact that the federation president and the Brazil camp were sitting in the VIP seats means something.
    They weren't there to watch soccer.
    They were there to check whether the 'system' was working properly.
    In other words: Brazil wins, Japan loses right here — that was already decided, and they were putting the pressure on Japan.
    And sure enough, Japan self-destructed.
    That's why they still had that look on their faces even after the final whistle.
    Japan's soccer people are still way too naive.
    73AnonymousSep 25, 2026 08:20
    With Elo ratings, points shift based on the gap between the 'expected result' (the pre-match difference in ability) and what actually happens — so beating a weaker team barely moves your score, while beating a stronger team gives a big jump. That makes it a fairly pure reflection of real strength.
    The FIFA ranking, on the other hand, factors in things like friendly-match weighting and inter-confederation coefficients, so it's easier to 'hack' your points depending on how you schedule matches and pick opponents.
    76AnonymousSep 25, 2026 08:22
    Re: #73
    Thinking one single match can move the needle when it's a 4-year cumulative point total is next-level clueless lol
    75AnonymousSep 25, 2026 08:21
    Authentic Italian carbonara tastes great because they deglaze the pan, letting the meat's umami melt right into the sauce.
    In other words: even if the national team is weak, there's still hidden strength (charm) underneath.
    80AnonymousSep 25, 2026 08:25
    Re: #75
    Japan's 'carbonara' only shares the name — it's a completely different dish.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The FIFA ranking accumulates points from match results over the past four years, weighted by the level of each match (friendly vs. official, continental vs. intercontinental, etc.) — it isn’t a system where one match result can drastically swing the standings. As posters in the thread noted, countries like the US and Mexico simply get more chances to play thanks to competitions like the CONCACAF Gold Cup and Nations League, and with fewer strong rivals within their own confederation, they’re structurally positioned to rack up points more easily. This differs from a system like Elo ratings, which is based on the gap between expected and actual results, so it’s not unusual for the two systems to disagree on where a team should rank. It’s also easy to misread that a country can stay ranked highly even without qualifying for the World Cup, simply because it still has points banked from past results — meaning the ranking doesn’t necessarily reflect a national team’s actual current strength.

    *This article excerpts and summarizes the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “Latest Soccer FIFA Rankings, 1st–100th: Where Do World Cup-Qualified North/Central American Nations and the Japan National Team Rank? (as of September 25, 2026)“.

  • Japan Squad Announces Uruguay Starting XI: Kuryu Matsuki Named to Start, Set for Senior National Team Debut

    On September 24, Japan’s national team announced their starting lineup for the Kirin Challenge Cup match against Uruguay (in Miyagi). Southampton’s Kuryu Matsuki starts at right wing-back, marking his first-ever senior national team debut. Playing a 3-4-2-1 system, brothers Kaishu Sano and Kota Sano form the double pivot, while Yuito Suzuki and Ritsu Doan take the shadow striker roles. On 5ch, discussion buzzed around confusion over the announced formation not matching pre-match reports of a “back four,” misunderstandings about Ko Itakura’s return to the squad, and debate over Matsuki’s best position.

    On the 24th, Japan’s national team faces Uruguay in the Kirin Challenge Cup at Q&A Stadium Miyagi. Ahead of the 7:05 PM kickoff, the starting lineup was announced, with first-time call-up MF Kuryu Matsuki (Southampton) starting at right wing-back for his senior national team debut.

    The formation is the same 3-4-2-1 that has served as Japan’s base system through the North/Central America World Cup, with Tomoki Hayakawa in goal. The back three, from left, lines up as DF Hiroki Ito, DF Ko Itakura, and DF Ayumu Seko. The double pivot pairs brothers MF Kaishu Sano and MF Kota Sano, with wing-backs MF Keito Nakamura on the left and Matsuki on the right. The shadow roles go to MF Yuito Suzuki on the left and MF Ritsu Doan on the right, with FW Daizen Maeda as the lone striker.

    The registered squad totals 26 players. Of the 30 called up, GK Zion Suzuki, who remains on a separate training menu due to side pain, and DF Tomoya Ando, who did not travel to Miyagi due to lower back pain, along with FW Keisuke Goto and MF Ryunosuke Sato, were left out of the matchday squad.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:15
    Double Sano
    Matsuki at right back
    Maeda as lone striker

    You even trying with this lineup?
    7AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:16
    Re: #4
    Everybody's in vacation mode, both sides alike.
    41AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:32
    Re: #4
    It's a four-match stretch, don't get so worked up about it.
    8AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:16
    Re: #1

    ⚽ Japan National Team Schedule

    Live tonight — Kirin Cup
    9/24 (Thu) 19:05 kickoff

    Japan vs Uruguay 🇺🇾
    Q&A Stadium Miyagi
    📺 Fuji TV


    Kirin Cup
    9/28 (Mon) 19:25 kickoff
    Japan vs Venezuela 🇻🇪
    Edion Peace Wing Hiroshima
    📺 Nippon TV

    Kirin Cup
    10/1 (Thu) 19:10 kickoff
    Japan vs Ecuador 🇪🇨
    Yokohama International Stadium
    📺 TBS

    Kirin Cup
    10/5 (Mon) 19:30 kickoff
    Japan vs Panama 🇵🇦 or New Zealand 🇳🇿
    National Stadium (Tokyo)
    📺 TV Asahi

    https://dec.2chan.net/up2/src/fu7310443.jpeg
    10AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:17
    Re: #1

    Japan National Team Squad

    ☆ First call-up

    ▽GK
    Tomoki Hayakawa (Kashima)
    Reo Brian Kokubo (Sint-Truiden)
    Zion Suzuki (Aston Villa)

    ▽DF
    Ko Itakura (Ajax → Borussia Mönchengladbach)
    Go Watanabe (Feyenoord)
    Takehiro Tomiyasu (Crystal Palace)
    Tomoya Ando (St. Pauli)
    Hiroki Ito (Bayern Munich)
    Ayumu Seko (Le Havre)
    Junnosuke Suzuki (Copenhagen)

    ▽MF/FW
    Junya Ito (Genk)
    Daichi Kamada (Crystal Palace)
    Yuki Soma (Machida)
    Daizen Maeda (Ipswich)
    Kaina Tanimura (Yokohama F. Marinos) ☆
    Ritsu Doan (Eintracht Frankfurt)
    Ayase Ueda (Lille)
    Ao Tanaka (Leeds)
    Shuto Nakano (Hiroshima) ☆
    Keito Nakamura (Lyon)
    Kaishu Sano (Mainz)
    Koki Kumasaka (Kashiwa)
    Takefusa Kubo (Real Sociedad)
    Yuito Suzuki (Freiburg)
    Satoshi Tanaka (Schalke)
    Kuryu Matsuki (Southampton) ☆
    Kota Sano (PSV)
    Kento Shiogai (Wolfsburg)
    Shunsuke Saito (Westerlo) ☆
    Keisuke Goto (Freiburg)
    Ryunosuke Sato (Valencia)

    https://dec.2chan.net/up2/src/fu7310443.jpeg
    30AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:25
    Wait, didn't Itakura withdraw? He's right there though.
    40AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:32
    Re: #30
    That withdrawal was for the Asian Cup.
    43AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:33
    Wasn't Goto called up? So why's 'Mother Nature' starting instead? (a fan nickname for Maeda Daizen, playing on the kanji in his name)
    62AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:39
    Re: #43
    Well, Ueda's about the only forward getting regular starts these days — both Maeda and Goto have mostly been coming on as subs.
    48AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:35
    Didn't they say it'd be a back four?
    This is clearly a back three.
    53AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:37
    Re: #48
    Poichi (Moriyasu's nickname) said he'd switch systems mid-match.
    59AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:39
    What happened to my boy Zion?!
    66AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:40
    Re: #59
    He's out with a rib or side injury.
    74AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:44
    Doesn't Matsuki play out wide at Southampton? He doesn't strike me as having much dribbling power to beat defenders, but the right side sure needs more options.
    97AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:49
    Re: #74
    There are guys who could get the nod on the right once it's 'Oiwa's Japan' (a hypothetical future squad under U-23 coach Oiwa).
    Even if Matsuki gets called up now, who knows where he'll be playing six months from now — his best position is still a mystery.
    90AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:47
    Did Kokubo kill Moriyasu's parents or something?
    Man stubbornly refuses to use this guy no matter what.
    113AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:54
    Re: #90
    That's just the correct pecking order though.
    With Zion injured, it'd be weirder NOT to use Hayakawa.
    102AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:50
    Feel bad for Matsuki. He's naturally a defensive midfielder, but in Turkey they mistook him for a forward, and now at Southampton he's stuck out on the right with no real weapon for it, so he's reduced to just being a connector. He clawed his way up through sheer grit, and now the national team's got him at wing-back too?
    105AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:52
    Re: #102
    Looking at his actual track record, isn't there barely anything to call defensive midfield his 'natural' position either?
    112AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:54
    Re: #102
    That's not sad at all.
    He's smart enough to find good positioning wherever you put him — from a coach's perspective, 'just throw him in there' makes him the perfect player.
    136AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:59
    Re: #102
    Go enjoy the table tennis instead.
    Feeling sorry about ratings at a time like this is way too much lol
    110AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:53
    Is Hayakawa actually reliable this season?
    He's conceding a ton of goals.
    121AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:55
    Re: #110
    He's been getting torched.
    Conceding multiple goals almost every match.
    117AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:54
    Kubo's had it too smooth up to now.
    He needs to get knocked down once and build some hunger.
    144AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:01
    Re: #117
    There's probably no footballer whose career has been nothing BUT getting knocked down more than Kubo's…
    126AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:57
    No Suarez either, so this is basically their 4th-string squad lol
    Go watch the table tennis instead, that's a real world championship decider.
    134AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:58
    Re: #126
    I'm recording the table tennis to watch later, so please don't post live commentary about it here, 'kay?
    130AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:58
    The table tennis is so good I can't change the channel lol
    Bet it's eating into the ratings pretty hard.
    143AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:01
    Re: #130
    I'm watching the recording later, so no live commentary here please, 'kay?
    133AnonymousSep 24, 2026 18:58
    Wait, is Matsuki in the shadow role and Doan at wing-back here?
    Surely it's not the other way around, right?
    It's the rookie's big moment, so let him play his favored position and enjoy it.
    147AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:02
    Re: #133
    Given their club roles, it could well be the other way around.
    152AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:04
    I always think this, but the Japan men's team has a lot of good-looking guys.
    157AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:05
    Re: #152
    The squad's average looks have shot up recently.

    Background and Talking Points

    The Kirin Challenge Cup packed four matches into the September 24–October 5 window, a congested schedule that explains the heavy rotation among regulars — the “vacation mode” jab in the thread is a reference to this four-match stretch. The confusion over the formation looking like a “back four” versus the announced 3-4-2-1 stems from manager Hajime Moriyasu’s use of an in-game variable system, a point commenters picked up on themselves. Kuryu Matsuki played primarily as a defensive midfielder at Tokyo Verdy in Japan’s J1 league, but since moving overseas he’s often been deployed in more advanced positions — which is the background behind his right wing-back role for the national team too, and why the “natural position” debate ties directly back to how his clubs have used him. Note also that the idea Itakura “withdrew” is a mix-up with the Asian Cup, not this call-up. And the criticism of Hayakawa’s save numbers is based on a short stretch of club form, a separate question from whether his national team call-up is justified.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “[Soccer] Japan National Team: Kuryu Matsuki Starts for Senior Debut!! Uruguay Match Starting XI Announced, Yuito Suzuki and Kota Sano Also Selected [Fuji TV].”

  • Japan 3-1 Uruguay: 5ch Reacts to Sergio Echigo’s Take on Matsuki — ‘Messi Doesn’t Do Anything Except Score Either’

    The first friendly since the 2026 World Cup saw Japan face Uruguay, with Japan coming from behind to win 3-1 on two goals scored in second-half stoppage time. Nikkan Sports columnist Sergio Echigo praised the win while noting that “in terms of content, it was completely Uruguay’s pace,” also pointing out that, as a friendly, eight substitutions were allowed. On 5ch, opinions split over how to rate Kuryu Matsuki, who scored the winning goal — some questioned whether he contributed anything besides the goal, while others argued that scoring is the most important job there is. Plenty of comments also voiced distrust of Echigo’s commentary itself.

    <International Friendly: Japan 3-1 Uruguay> ◇September 24 ◇Q&A Stadium Miyagi

    In their first match since the 2026 FIFA World Cup in North/Central America, Japan (FIFA ranking 17th) beat Uruguay (ranked 20th) in style. Nikkan Sports columnist Sergio Echigo (81) praised the win as a fresh restart, while also noting that, as a friendly, eight substitutions were permitted.

    In sumo terms, Japan pushed Uruguay out right at the edge of the ring. Content-wise, it was completely Uruguay’s pace — they created decisive chances over and over, and there were plenty of close calls. Still, those two goals in second-half stoppage time deserve praise, and as a fresh restart, it was a good win.

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    7AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:37
    Re: #1
    For reference
    Japan's goal highlights

    Matsuki
    x.com/Fooootest/status/2103070017994776692

    Shiogai
    x.com/ilovefootballjp/status/2103094476139041207

    Ueda
    x.com/Fooootest/status/2103094945766854691
    8AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:37
    There's no way he's writing this himself anymore lol
    Feels like it's just "Sergio AI" cranking out articles on its own lol
    10AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:38
    You don't need to do anything except score.
    81AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:05
    Re: #10
    Wait, what?! What about defense? What about pressing?
    11AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:38
    He had great positioning and the ball kept finding him from the far side — converting even one of those is plenty.
    13AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:39
    If you're involved in the goal, nothing else matters lol
    It's a sport about scoring goals lol
    Eleven imperfect guys come together and cover for each other — that's football, isn't it?
    14AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:39
    He's not even a natural wing-back to begin with lol. He's been played all over the pitch so it's hard to tell his best fit, but really he's an inside midfielder or a holding mid.
    15AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:39
    It's not the guy who kicked it that's great — it's the guy who filmed it. (a twist on the classic "it's not the scorer, it's the passer" saying)
    16AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:39
    Actually, is that even the right position for Matsuki? Well, it's not like he was great in defensive midfield either.
    19AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:41
    Re: #16
    That guy's been made to play everything from center forward to defensive mid.
    17AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:40
    Re: #1
    You don't do anything either, and you're not doing it well.
    20AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:41
    That's where you gotta go full Brazil about it — "Scored on by Mr. Shiogai? Pathetic, Uruguay! Pfft-ha!" (mocking their South American rivals)
    23AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:42
    If you ask an AI to "critique it like Sergio Echigo," it says basically the same thing.
    24AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:42
    Does Sergio not know about Riquelme? The Riquelme who did nothing except get involved in goals?
    25AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:43
    True, everything else really was a parade of mistakes.
    26AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:43
    Matsuki's insane mental toughness hasn't changed at all. Kind of got choked up watching that.
    27AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:44
    Matsuki actually scored, so on the right he's better than Doan or Kubo.
    31AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:45
    Trying to win over the Kubo faithful with this one — scoring in your first start isn't something that happens often.
    32AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:46
    Re: #1
    Wasn't Matsuki basically frozen out to begin with? The ball barely came to him — felt like they kept working the left side instead.
    34AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:47
    > Not trying to be snarky, but if the World Cup also allowed eight substitutions, Japan might actually have a shot at winning it.
    Isn't it the other way around…
    36AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:47
    The record for youngest goal on a Japan national team debut belongs to Suga-chan of Sanfrecce (Hiroshima).
    37AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:48
    Like with Harimoto, he doesn't have much time left, so maybe we should just humor Sergio's comments. (Harimoto: veteran commentator known for blunt, old-school takes)
    38AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:48
    Apparently people age fast once they retire. The players he criticizes probably don't even care anymore.
    41AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:49
    It's right after the match, so he's saying even weirder stuff than usual. More substitution slots means fewer upsets, if anything.
    44AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:49
    An old futsal guy has no business lecturing about football. (Echigo is best known for his futsal background)
    63AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:57
    Re: #44
    He actually coached me at some kind of soccer clinic back in elementary school lol
    45AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:50
    Sergio didn't say a single word about Shiogai.
    46AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:51
    For a comment like this, "yeah, that's probably fair" seems like a totally reasonable reaction.
    47AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:51
    Even Messi genuinely does nothing except score, doesn't he?
    74AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:59
    Re: #47
    He's doing the job of making the opposing team aware that "Messi's out there" and keeping them on guard.
    48AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:51
    They should really be praising Nakamura's pinpoint switch of play right before that instead.
    49AnonymousSep 24, 2026 22:51
    Exactly, lol. No need to bring Shiogai into this one.
    86AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:08
    Praised to the skies when you win, torn apart when you lose — that's pro sports for you.
    91AnonymousSep 24, 2026 23:10
    Re: #86
    What do you make of an old man who only ever criticizes Japan, win or lose?

    Background and Talking Points

    Sergio Echigo is a longtime Nikkan Sports columnist known for harsh commentary on the Japan national team, a style that reliably sparks mixed reactions. This match was the first friendly since the 2026 World Cup; unlike official internationals, friendlies carry a special rule allowing up to eight substitutions, which tends to produce experimental lineups for trying out younger players. On the thread, takes on Matsuki split into two camps — “being involved in the goal is enough” versus “defense and pressing are part of the job too” — with some defending him by invoking Messi and Riquelme as players whose other contributions can go unnoticed as long as they’re involved in scoring. What’s harder to see from the individual replies alone, though, is that many commenters were less focused on Matsuki himself than on questioning Echigo’s own credibility as a commentator — reflecting a chronic distrust of his commentary style that runs through the thread.

    ※This article excerpts and summarizes the 5ch (Geisoku Sokuho+) thread “[Soccer] Sergio Echigo: Kuryu Matsuki? Didn’t he do nothing except in the goal scene?.”

  • Third Moriyasu Era Kicks Off with a Win: Matsuki’s Debut Goal, Shiogai’s Dramatic Strike… Coach Moriyasu Reacts

    On September 24, Japan’s national team faced Uruguay at Miyagi Stadium and won 3-1. In the first match of the “Third Moriyasu Era” following the coach’s contract renewal, there were positive takeaways: substitute Kuryu Matsuki scored on his debut, and Shiogai also netted a dramatic, spirited strike. After the match, coach Hajime Moriyasu reflected on the game. On 5ch, opinions were split — some praised how Ao Tanaka’s presence energized the team’s attack, while others debated how much weight to give a friendly win, and how strong Ayase Ueda’s new French club really is.

    Japan takes on Uruguay

    On September 24, Japan’s national team faced Uruguay at Miyagi Stadium and came away with a 3-1 win. In a post-match interview, coach Hajime Moriyasu looked back on the game.

    [Featured] Winning the World Cup “takes more than just passion” — the Japan Football Association is recruiting “partners”… Check out the “JFA PARTNERSHIP PROJECT for DREAM”

    Source: football-zone.net / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:08
    Soccer's stealing the spotlight and baseball fans are seeeeething ("焼き豚"/yakibuta is 5ch slang mocking NPB baseball fans)
    40AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:09
    Re: #2
    Yeah, having Ao Tanaka in there really gets the attack going and makes it easier to score.
    He kept creating chances too,
    and his defensive jumping and heading were solid too.
    133AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:12
    Re: #40
    You could clearly tell the momentum shifted, right?
    165AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:13
    Re: #40
    That said, we had more close calls too.
    So, yeah, that's just how it goes lol
    11AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:09
    South American teams are great, huh.
    Even in a friendly they bring real intensity — made for a good tune-up match.
    46AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:10
    Re: #11
    Seriously, this.
    Shiogai losing his mind after that goal was great.
    211AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:14
    Re: #11
    We should learn from how badly they wanted to win even in a friendly.
    635AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:29
    Re: #11
    Nah, South America's real intensity isn't anything like that.
    We saw plenty of it at the World Cup.
    When they're actually serious, they come at you like they want to kill you.
    Today was basically just playing around.
    58AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:10
    Ueda's amazing, but why'd he move to some mid-table French club?
    A guy like him could've cut it in the Premier League.
    87AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:11
    Re: #58
    A club that finished 2nd last season, "mid-table"? Don't make me laugh.
    242AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:15
    Re: #58
    Eh, I think the Premier League would be really tough for him.
    He's clearly got talent, but I can't picture him banging in goals week after week there.
    Fulham's Gonçalo might be a similar comparison — maybe he could do about that much.
    297AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:16
    Re: #58
    I think that's about what an Eredivisie top-scorer title is worth these days. It's not the Ronaldo/Romário era anymore.
    85AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:11
    Seeing this makes me think we didn't even need to change coaches.
    Moriyasu's win rate really is high.
    125AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:12
    Re: #85
    That's not it.
    He just leaves it up to the players, so when the team's on the back foot, he's got no cards to play.
    200AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:14
    Re: #85
    It's all thanks to Itō.
    374AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:18
    Re: #85
    He only wins the matches that don't matter.
    Same back at his Hiroshima days too — lame losses in cup competitions and tournaments all the time.
    101AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:11
    Re: #40
    The data actually shows Ao Tanaka's win rate as a starter is overwhelmingly high, and it drops off a cliff when he's not in the lineup.

    Even at Leeds, he's unbeaten in home starts and wins almost every time — a historic record.
    Even counting away games, his win rate leads the team.
    131AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:12
    Re: #101
    Lol, Ao Tanaka's Leeds are up there with the Big 6.
    Ao's a beast 😳
    https://imgur.com/4TgmWjr.jpeg

    Apparently if you tally up points from December 2025 to now, Leeds are 5th in the Premier League.

    That span includes the stretch since Ao Tanaka scored against Chelsea and Liverpool,
    when he was starting every game and winning constantly,
    so it looks like he's racked up a big chunk of those points.
    156AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:13
    Re: #131
    No way they're in it, lol
    155AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:13
    Re: #1

    ⚽ Japan National Team Schedule

    Mon 9/28, kickoff 19:25
    Japan vs Venezuela 🇻🇪
    Edion Peace Wing Hiroshima
    📺 Nippon TV

    Thu 10/1, kickoff 19:10
    Japan vs Ecuador 🇪🇨
    Yokohama International Stadium
    📺 TBS network

    Mon 10/5, kickoff 19:30
    Japan vs Panama 🇵🇦 or New Zealand 🇳🇿
    National Stadium
    📺 TV Asahi

    https://dec.2chan.net/up2/src/fu7312396.jpeg
    https://dec.2chan.net/up2/src/fu7312401.jpeg
    217AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:14
    Re: #155
    Lol, it's all Central/South American opponents
    159AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:13
    What are the Moriyasu haters gonna do with this?
    190AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:13
    Re: #159
    You don't get worked up over a friendly, c'mon lol
    195AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:14
    Re: #159
    Barely won thanks to home advantage.
    If someone like Klopp were coaching, it'd have been decided in the first half.
    675AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:30
    Re: #159
    The right side was dead in the first half.
    169AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:13
    No Recoba though (´・ω・`)
    334AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:17
    Re: #169
    He was wearing #15 for the U-21s yesterday though
    350AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:18
    Pretty good effort for what's essentially a test match.
    https://tadaup.jp/9wpfUsLv.jpg
    609AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:28
    Re: #350
    Didn't even hit 10%.
    Single-digit ratings, seriously?
    677AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:30
    Re: #350
    So it beat the table tennis final's ratings?
    Re: #609
    TVAL ratings tend to run low.
    Video Research is probably more like 13-15%.
    611AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:28
    We already know by now that winning a friendly doesn't prove anything about real strength.
    We learned that from the last World Cup.
    628AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:28
    Re: #611
    Of course playing at home favors Japan — what's there even to be confused about.
    647AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:29
    Re: #611
    Seriously, learn already that Kubo's useless when the games actually matter.
    662AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:30
    Re: #611
    Exactly.
    Anyone celebrating this must have like 1 bit of memory capacity.
    690AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:31
    Best lineup
    Ueda
    Mitoma Matsuki
    Nakamura Itō
    Sano Sano
    Itō Takai Suzuki
    Zion


    This work?
    726AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:33
    Re: #690
    Leaving out Kamada is absolutely not happening.
    That's the one thing that's off the table.
    728AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:33
    Re: #690
    A guy who can't even get on the pitch at Sint-Truiden is gonna struggle at center-back.
    745AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:34
    Re: #690
    Think of Kamada as the current heart of the national team.
    Right now, Japan is Kamada's team.

    Also, put Tomiyasu in.

    Background and Talking Points

    This match was the opening game of the so-called “Third Moriyasu Japan” era since coach Hajime Moriyasu’s contract renewal, and as a friendly it has no direct bearing on points in official competitions like World Cup qualifying. The main split in the thread was over how much weight to give a friendly win: some took the victory at face value, while others argued it means little since the opponents weren’t playing at full intensity. Some posts pointed to Ao Tanaka’s form at Leeds as supporting evidence, but the league-standing calculations cited are posters’ own personal estimates, not official data, and should be read with that caveat. Opinions on the strength of Ayase Ueda’s new French club and on the TV ratings figures also varied by source from poster to poster, so no firm conclusion emerged.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Soccer] Third Moriyasu Era Kicks Off with a Win: Matsuki’s Debut Goal, Shiogai’s Dramatic Strike… Coach Moriyasu Reacts.”

  • Moriyasu’s Japan Falls 1-3 to Uruguay — 5ch Split Over His Tactical Decisions

    On September 24, a friendly match between Japan and Uruguay was held at Q&A Stadium Miyagi. Japan took an early lead in the 12th minute through Matsuki Kuryu, playing his first-ever match for the senior national team, but Uruguay’s Maxi Araújo equalized in the 42nd minute, and the first half ended 1-1. In the 5ch thread, some discounted the result, noting that Uruguay were missing Suárez and Forlán and that key players arrived tired after their trip to Japan was delayed by a typhoon, calling it “not much to go on” — while others saw real promise, writing that “the individual quality of the Japan squad is improving.” Opinions were split.

    “Our goal came from the opponent’s mistake.”

    The Japan national team, led by manager Moriyasu Hajime, faced Uruguay on September 24 in an international friendly at Q&A Stadium Miyagi.

    In their first match since the North/Central America World Cup, Japan took the lead in the 12th minute. Matsuki Kuryu, making his senior debut in this very match, buried a brilliant strike from distance. Japan continued to control the game afterward, but before they could add a second goal, they conceded in the 42nd minute — goalkeeper Hayakawa Tomoki managed to block the first shot with his foot, but the rebound was tapped home by Maxi Araújo. The first half ended 1-1.

    Source: soccerdigestweb.com / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:11
    Thank Lee Kang-in for this one
    he's the guy who wrecked the knee ligament of Valverde, Real Madrid's man and Uruguay's key player.
    6AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:12
    Beating a Uruguay without Suárez or Forlán doesn't really mean much, though.
    67AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:25
    Re: #6
    Forlán was actually on the pitch, though.
    7AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:12
    It's just a friendly, come on.
    76AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:26
    Re: #7

    True, it's a friendly, so it's not a true measure of ability, and you shouldn't take it at face value (even back in the Kamo-Japan era, Japan beat some fairly strong countries in friendlies).

    That said, friendlies still count toward the FIFA rankings (which ultimately affects World Cup seeding), so there's still a reason to keep winning.

    Still, don't take it at face value, and be careful not to read too much into it.
    8AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:13
    Miyagi was a garbage stadium as always. Don't kick off a match in a place like that.
    10AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:13
    Honestly, I thought Uruguay looked strong.
    16AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:14
    Re: #10
    What game were you watching?
    11AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:13
    VAR in a sponsor-run friendly? Come on.
    19AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:14
    Re: #11
    It's technically a cup match, you know.
    12AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:13
    This was after they pulled most of their starters, so it's not worth much as a reference.
    Aside from the start and the very end, Uruguay were the better team.
    17AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:14
    Itō's passing was razor-sharp today.
    Though there was one back-pass that nearly ended in disaster.
    18AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:14
    Uruguay are strong and they always play for real — you've got to be grateful for that.
    20AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:14
    Don't get cocky, scrubs.
    Be grateful they even let it stay close.
    21AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:14
    Is "little Victorino" not showing up this time?
    22AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:14
    Re: #1
    Check back in an hour or two, more comments will have been added by then.

    Foreign fans: "No way!" — Japan beats Uruguay with a dramatic goal! Shiogai Kento and Matsuki Kuryu score their first international goals! [Overseas Reactions]
    NO FOOTY NO LIFE
    9 minutes ago
    https://nofootynolife.net/blog-entry-9372.html
    24AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:15
    Why were the Uruguay players so worked up near the end, lol?
    26AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:15
    "What are you so afraid of!
    Fight like a pro!
    Let's all go together!"

    That's the line that came to mind.
    27AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:16
    IJ and Kiyoto (Ueda) were incredible today.
    Kubo was good too, considering how little he's playing in Spain.

    Matsuki was garbage outside of the goal.
    Yuito didn't do a single good thing either.
    Isogai's going to get dropped from the squad fast if he keeps playing like that.
    29AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:16
    Paraguay's cousin.
    63AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:23
    Re: #29
    If anything, it's Argentina's cousin.
    Look at both countries' flags.

    While you're at it, check Colombia's, Ecuador's, and Venezuela's too — write in if you notice something.
    30AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:16
    Forlán's brand of football doesn't seem to have much tactics behind it, does it.
    33AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:16
    A battle between FIFA rank 17 and rank 20.
    34AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:16
    Uruguay's whole Bielsa setup fell apart at the actual World Cup, so cut them some slack and take the long view.
    35AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:16
    Most of the Uruguay players only arrived in Japan two days ago because of the typhoon.
    They did well considering that.
    36AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:17
    Uruguay's national team
    is heading straight to South Korea after this to play the Korean national team,
    then straight on to India to play the Indian national team
    — a packed Asia tour schedule.
    40AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:18
    Re: #36
    They might lose to Korea too.
    They'll probably beat India, though.
    44AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:18
    Re: #36
    Uruguay sure is in demand, huh.
    96AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:34
    Re: #36
    Kind of feel bad for a team at Uruguay's level having to play India.
    46AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:19
    Whoever was ripping on Shiogai for not passing on those two plays before the goal, apologize. The guy who actually scored is the king.
    47AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:19
    The individual level of Japan's national team players has gotten really high. Young, talented players keep emerging one after another. If that talent gets fully channeled into team strength, Japan is going to become incredibly strong. There's a real chance Japan could end up stronger than Spain.
    64AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:23
    The birthrate is falling, so Japanese football's growth is starting to stall out.
    In fact, Japan still hasn't surpassed that glamorous 2002 national team.
    65AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:24
    So Uruguay plays South Korea right after this?
    If Lee Kang-in gets on the pitch, he's going to get kicked to pieces.
    74AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:26
    Re: #65
    There's bound to be some payback.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Because friendly match results feed into FIFA ranking points — which in turn affect World Cup qualifying seeding — some in the thread argued that “even a friendly shouldn’t be brushed off.” At the same time, posts repeatedly pointed out that Uruguay’s arrival in Japan was delayed by an approaching typhoon and that their lineup was missing regular veterans like Suárez, with some also noting that Uruguay’s Bielsa-led setup fell apart at the actual North/Central America World Cup — leading to a cautious view that Japan’s true ability shouldn’t be judged on this result alone. Others, meanwhile, spoke positively about “individual players stepping up their level,” so reactions to the result split between optimism and caution. There was also back-and-forth over individual performances by players like Matsuki and Isogai, with some posts harshly critiquing their play outside of the goal-scoring moments and others defending them.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread “‘It’s an era where we can’t beat Japan,’ ‘Are they scared?’ Moriyasu’s Japan loses 1-3… Uruguay fans furious! ‘Nothing’s improved since the World Cup’.”

  • Japan vs. Uruguay: Sano Brothers Start Together — 5ch: ‘Keito Nakamura Owns the Left Wing, Who Needs Mitoma?’

    A 5ch thread live-reacting to Japan’s national team clash with Uruguay in the Kirin Challenge Cup blew up with activity. Right from kickoff, fans were stunned to see the Sano brothers both named in the starting lineup, and the thread kept rolling with takes on individual players — from Kyusei Matsuki cementing his spot on the senior national team to Keito Nakamura’s strong form stirring up a ranking battle with Kaoru Mitoma. Late in the match, a debate broke out over how to interpret an offside call involving a handball, with one early (wrong) conclusion getting checked and corrected via AI. Comments also reflected on just how strong Uruguay looked, alongside hopes for what’s ahead under the new Oiwa-led coaching staff.

    1AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:02
    There wasn't one, so…
    2AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:04
    HERE IT COMES━━━━(°∀°)━━━━!!
    3AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:06
    Huh, no 'Zeon'? (garbled in the original)
    Got my hopes up for the Sano brothers
    4AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:10
    Brothers both starting for Japan at once? That's wild.
    5AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:12
    Matsuki finally made it into a senior national team start — took a while.
    6AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:16
    Hoping big things from the Sano brothers, Matsuki, and Yuito Suzuki.

    Did Daizen Maeda figure something out? He's been on fire nonstop since around the World Cup.
    8AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:17
    This live-commentary crowd still doesn't feel locked into the match.
    17AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:23
    Case closed. Way more useful than Doan. Go get 'em, Kyusei!!
    19AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:24
    The Sano brothers running a double pivot together is straight out of Captain Tsubasa.

    Like the Tachibana twins (famous sibling duo from the anime).
    24AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:26
    Wonder how motivated Itakura even is these days
    His Asian Cup spot's looking shaky too.
    25AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:27
    Didn't know Itakura used to play for Vegalta Sendai.
    28AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:29
    They literally made a fair-play pledge and then this happens 🤣
    31AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:32
    Is Valverde even playing?
    35AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:33
    Re: #31
    He's not injured.
    38AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:35
    The fact that grabbing and wrapping someone up by the jersey isn't a foul is the most baffling rule in soccer.
    44AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:37
    Re: #38
    He's grabbing the jersey right in the ref's blind spot.
    45AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:37
    The left side is completely Keito Nakamura's show now — don't even need Mitoma.
    47AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:38
    Re: #45
    When Nakamura first broke out, it was more like 'good player, but Mitoma's already there'…
    but at this point Mitoma's spot is genuinely starting to look shaky.
    55AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:43
    This match is actually really fun
    Haven't enjoyed one like this in a while.
    56AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:44
    Re: #55
    Right, it's fun

    Oiwa's soccer at the Asian tournament was boring though.
    57AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:45
    Takefusa's on the bench lol
    59AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:45
    Re: #57
    Pretty sure he said something like 'I can get minutes with the national team'…
    75AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:54
    Uruguay's just strong, man.
    78AnonymousSep 24, 2026 19:55
    Re: #75
    Playing a weak team wouldn't really be much of a 'challenge,' would it.
    80AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:02
    Yeehaw
    89AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:18
    Now that Oiwa's in charge, what happens to Hasebe and Shunsuke Nakamura?
    92AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:21
    Re: #89
    That was probably already factored in when he took the job back.
    98AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:30
    When's Kubo finally gonna move to a big club?
    101AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:31
    Re: #98
    He's been in a slump at Real Sociedad though.
    113AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:43
    If they actually pull a surprise move here it'll probably blow up in their faces though (exact term in original unclear)
    115AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:44
    Re: #113
    That's basically a coin-flip gamble.
    134AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:00
    Under VAR, even the hand touch should count against him.
    139AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:02
    Re: #134
    A hand that's not involved in the play shouldn't count for offside, right?
    Shoulders and stuff are different though.
    149AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:04
    Re: #139
    Here ya go

    151AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:05
    Re: #149
    This one's offside — his shoulder's past the line.
    150AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:05
    Shiogai really reminds me of a young Hidetoshi Nakata. Hope they keep starting him.
    155AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:07
    Re: #150
    Moriyasu seems like he'd hate that.
    153AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:06
    Guess the hand doesn't even factor into offside calls.
    157AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:08
    Re: #153
    The hand part is a handball and not a playable body part, so it shouldn't count for offside.
    156AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:07
    Re: #151
    Checked it with AI —

    my bad, I was wrong.
    160AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:12
    Re: #156
    Offside rules keep getting tweaked here and there, so it gets confusing.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    The Kirin Challenge Cup is a series of international friendlies hosted by the Japan Football Association, usually organized to strengthen the national team and scout new talent. In this thread, attention centered on the battle for starting spots, sparked by the Sano brothers being fielded together and Keito Nakamura’s rise. Where the thread split was over a refereeing interpretation: posters initially reached the wrong conclusion about whether a play involving hand contact should be ruled offside, then checked it with AI and corrected themselves. Under the actual Laws of the Game, offside is assessed only on body parts that can legally play the ball — hands and arms don’t count — so that correction was accurate. One thing worth flagging for readers: fielding a new player for the national team doesn’t automatically mean he’s locked in for future matches; friendlies are ultimately a proving ground, and a thread’s excitement is no guarantee of an actual starting role.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nyuusoku VIP) thread “[Soccer] Japan vs. Uruguay [Kirin Challenge Cup].”

  • Japan’s Table Tennis Team Stuns China for Gold — 5ch: ‘They Finally Broke Through China’s Fortress’

    A 5ch thread lit up after Japan’s national table tennis team beat China to win gold. Posters lined up to praise the growth of players like Tomokazu Harimoto and Kira Matsushima, and after a direct win over world No. 1 Wang Chuqin, some declared, “They’ve finally broken through China’s fortress.” Others argued China’s players weren’t at full strength, or pointed out that the men’s roster depth seems to be thinning, leaving opinion split on whether this is a genuine generational shift or just a temporary slump for China. For the upcoming women’s match, many predicted a tough wall in world No. 1 Sun Yingsha.

    1AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:06
    Yep
    2AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:07
    So that's why people call him a girl, huh
    4AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:07
    Re: #2
    The one with the butt-shaped thing (probably a hair bun)
    5AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:07
    Japan's own Sammo Hung is strong as hell (nickname for a stocky-looking player)
    10AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:08
    The Asian Games aren't even that prestigious and the other side was basically a B-squad, so nobody's hyped lol
    17AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:09
    Re: #10
    That 'B-squad' is exactly what we couldn't beat for 60 years though
    52AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:17
    Re: #10
    They're China's top 3 in the world rankings and you're calling that a B-squad? Are there guys even stronger who just don't play internationally?
    20AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:10
    So they can actually beat the world No. 1 now. Back in the Ma Long? era we couldn't lay a finger on them
    23AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:10
    Gold at the next Olympics might genuinely be in play
    26AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:11
    They beat it off Wang Chuqin himself, so China's got nothing to complain about
    27AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:11
    They finally broke through China's fortress, incredible
    29AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:11
    Not just Harimoto — Matsushima's grown up too, now they can go toe-to-toe with China
    31AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:12
    At least table tennis and gymnastics should be high-level events at the Asian Games
    37AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:13
    Re: #31
    Badminton too
    32AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:12
    Might as well make him an honorary Japanese citizen at this point
    33AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:12
    Something's definitely gonna kick off over this — like some serious booing
    35AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:13
    Wonder if Wang Chuqin's leg was acting up — he had it taped
    38AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:13
    Is China's world No. 1 player even famous? My knowledge stopped at Ma Long lol
    46AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:15
    So did Japan get stronger, or did China get weaker?
    50AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:17
    Re: #46
    China's weak AND not motivated. Next up, the women's match — Japan's gonna get wrecked in straight sets by big sis Sun Yingsha
    54AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:18
    Re: #46
    This one's on Japan getting stronger. If Japan weren't in the picture, China basically never loses
    69AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:24
    No chance for the women as long as Sun Yingsha's around
    73AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:25
    Re: #69
    Sun Yingsha alone is still on another level. No way she's getting beaten
    104AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:39
    How long has it been since we last beat China in table tennis?
    106AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:43
    Re: #104
    Apparently it's been 60 years
    117AnonymousSep 24, 2026 20:56
    Wait… isn't everyone on China's side ranked low except their No. 1? Was this not their full lineup?
    119AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:00
    Re: #117
    Unlike the women's side, which is still overwhelmingly strong, the men's game in China is genuinely on its way out
    127AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:08
    Isn't China's bench pretty thin?
    tps://i.imgur.com/w5mryb4.jpeg
    129AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:15
    Re: #127
    Guess it's not as dominant as people say. Did their generational handover just flop?
    130AnonymousSep 24, 2026 21:16
    Re: #127
    Wait, there's a Japanese player ranked above Harimoto?

    Background and Points of Debate

    Table tennis has long been a sport where China sits at the top of the world, and it’s historically been rare for Japan to beat them in international play. The “first time in 60 years” figure repeated throughout the thread comes from posters’ own recollections and isn’t clearly backed by official records, so it’s worth taking with a grain of salt. Opinion was split on whether Japan had genuinely closed the skill gap or whether China simply hadn’t fielded its strongest lineup, with both views appearing side by side in the thread. It’s also worth noting that some Japanese national team players have roots in China, but eligibility to represent a country is based on nationality — so questioning the win’s legitimacy based on a player’s background alone doesn’t reflect the actual rules. As for the upcoming women’s match, the general consensus was that it’s a tall order given the presence of top-ranked Sun Yingsha.

    ※This article was compiled and summarized from a 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G board) thread: “[Breaking] Japan’s Table Tennis Team Beats the Strongest-Ever China for Gold WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW“.