Category: Society

  • Hokkaido Civil Servant Pay Rises ¥210,000 to ¥6.72 Million — 5ch Asks: ‘Why ¥2 Million Above Average?’

    On October 2, the Hokkaido Personnel Commission recommended that Governor Naomichi Suzuki raise prefectural employees’ monthly pay by 2.9% and bonuses by 0.05 months’ worth for fiscal year 2026. If adopted as recommended, the average annual salary for general administrative staff (age 40.6) would rise by ¥214,000 to ¥6,723,000 — the fifth consecutive annual increase. Total personnel costs for the prefecture are expected to grow by roughly ¥13.9 billion, with starting salaries for both university and high school graduates also rising for a fifth straight year. On 5ch, the thread split between doubts over public servants’ pay far outpacing the private-sector average, concern over Hokkaido’s financial health, and the counterargument that ‘if Hokkaido residents are fine with it, it’s not outsiders’ place to complain.’

    On the 2nd, the Hokkaido Personnel Commission recommended a pay raise for prefectural employees to Governor Naomichi Suzuki, calling for fiscal 2026 monthly pay to rise 2.9% over the previous year and bonuses to increase by 0.05 months’ worth. The goal is to close the gap with private-sector pay, and if adopted as recommended, it would mark five consecutive years of increases.

    The prefecture will now enter labor-management negotiations. If settled as recommended, the average annual salary for general administrative staff (age 40.6) will rise by ¥214,000 to ¥6,723,000. This would push the prefecture’s total personnel costs up by roughly ¥13.9 billion.

    To help secure talent, the commission also called for raising starting salaries by ¥9,500. For university graduates, that’s a 4.1% increase to ¥241,500; for high school graduates, a 4.7% increase to ¥209,800. This marks the fifth straight year of starting-salary hikes as well, though the rate of increase for both groups is smaller than the roughly 12% seen two years ago.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:19
    30% of Japanese salarymen work at big corporations.

    The other 70% work at small and mid-sized companies.

    ↑So the gap is 2x?
    112AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:51
    Re: #2
    What's your point?
    4AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:20
    What major private company are we even talking about?
    And on top of that, civil servants don't even pay into unemployment insurance, since there's zero risk of their employer going bankrupt.
    15AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:24
    Re: #4
    No bankruptcy risk
    Can't get fired
    Commit a crime and depending on the case your name doesn't even get released, let alone get arrested

    And on top of all that, this is the paycheck.
    7AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:21
    That's genuinely high for an average.
    14AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:24
    Re: #7
    Looking at the average, it beats Toyota, so a university grad is probably pulling in around ¥12 million by 30.
    171AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:19
    Re: #14
    Toyota's average is around ¥8.5 million though? (per their official securities filing)
    Where are you even getting your 'average salary' numbers from?
    12AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:23
    No wonder taxes aren't enough.
    Are these people taking the piss?
    138AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:01
    Re: #12
    No wonder kids these days are aiming to become civil servants.
    13AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:23
    Re: #1
    Tokyo, maybe, but I can't believe private-sector pay in Hokkaido is that high.
    17AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:24
    Re: #13
    They're civil servants, so they benchmark against Tokyo's private sector.
    22AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:25
    Hokkaido's overall finances are in pretty bad shape — is this really okay?
    If anything it looks like they'd struggle even with a 10% cut, and yet they're raising pay?
    180AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:21
    Re: #22
    Relax, relax — just cut back public works and welfare and the money's easy to find.

    Prefecture falling apart? Not enough farm support?
    Then pay more in taxes, why don't you.
    30AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:28
    Getting paid that much out in the countryside, you'd live like a feudal lord.
    34AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:29
    Re: #30
    Apparently the rich folks in the countryside are construction contractors and civil servants.
    60AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:33
    While small and mid-sized businesses suffer under the weak yen and soaring prices, it's only civil servants — who have zero productivity targets — and vampire-like big corporations getting pay raises.
    94AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:43
    Re: #60
    Seriously, this. (playing on the net slang "本コレ," short for "本当にこれ" — "this, exactly" — stretched into "コレクション"/"collection" as a joke)
    96AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:44
    Japan's average annual income (for salaried workers employed a full year) is ¥4.78 million.
    What's the rational explanation for civil servants getting paid ¥2 million more than that average?
    108AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:49
    Re: #96
    Probably the labor shortage.
    They should just throw AI at everything instead.
    111AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:50
    Re: #96
    That average includes middle-school grads, high-school grads, and bottom-tier ('F-rank') university grads lol
    127AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:58
    Re: #96
    That ¥4.87 million figure includes part-timers and non-regular elderly workers too — of course the private-sector average comes out low.
    107AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:49
    If you earn less than a civil servant and you're complaining about civil servant pay, why didn't you just become one yourself?
    116AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:51
    Re: #107
    Maybe they're from the Ice Age generation?
    The competition-to-openings ratio back then was insane. (the "Employment Ice Age" generation that graduated into Japan's brutal 1990s–2000s job market)
    120AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:53
    Re: #107
    Do you not know about the hiring quotas and age limits during the Ice Age era?
    123AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:54
    Re: #107
    Do you not know there are 'human rights'-related connections [that help certain people get hired]?
    110AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:50
    > The goal is to close the gap with private-sector pay, and if adopted as recommended, it would mark five consecutive years of increases.

    Huh, guess private companies in Hokkaido pay pretty well after all.
    122AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:54
    Re: #110
    Nope, they benchmark against Tokyo — they're civil servants after all.
    124AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:55
    Re: #122
    So who exactly do you report that to, lol
    Oh, some LDP department that handles that sort of thing?
    154AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:10
    If Hokkaido residents aren't objecting, isn't it fine?
    Not really outsiders' place to complain.
    156AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:12
    Re: #154
    Even if it's a local government, national tax money flows into it, so people from all over the country have every right to complain.
    158AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:12
    Re: #154
    Local civil servants' pay isn't funded by local taxes alone — it also comes from national government grants,
    so it's not something every citizen in the country can just shrug off as someone else's problem.
    179AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:21
    Re: #127
    Add part-timers in and all you really do is bump up the under-¥3-million bracket — the bulk of the income distribution barely shifts even when you look at regular employees only.

    There's a YouTube channel called "Toushi Usagi" (Investing Rabbit) with a video titled "Japan's average salary is ¥4.87 million, but here's what's actually in that number…"
    Around the 3-minute mark it shows income distribution graphs both with and without part-timers included.

    According to that, even for regular employees only, the ¥3–6 million range is the biggest bracket, making up 52.4% of the total.
    184AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:22
    Re: #179
    I'll check that out sometime.
    Sounds interesting.
    195AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:27
    Re: #179
    Just watched it — doesn't it lump men and women together when it shows that bracket?
    183AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:22
    Whenever civil servant pay goes up,
    nobody ever brings up 'there's no budget for it' —
    funny how it gets decided instantly, every single time.
    188AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:23
    Re: #183
    Because plenty of politicians lose their seats if they make enemies of civil servants.

    Background and Talking Points Behind This Story

    Local civil servants’ pay is set through a “private-sector parity” system, in which a personnel commission surveys wage levels at private companies within the prefecture and makes a recommendation to the governor. The Hokkaido Personnel Commission based this 2.9% recommendation on wage data from 310 companies within the prefecture — meaning the thread’s suggestion that it’s “probably benchmarking against big Tokyo companies” doesn’t actually match how the system works. Meanwhile, the starting-salary increase sits in the 4% range for both university and high school graduates, a sharp slowdown from the roughly 12% seen two years ago, suggesting an attempt to balance the need to attract talent against budget constraints. The thread also raised the point that civil servants earn “more than ¥2 million above the ¥4.78 million average annual income,” but that ¥4.78 million figure includes part-time and non-regular workers’ pay too — it’s easy to overlook that this isn’t an apples-to-apples comparison between regular employees. Opinions in the thread split depending on whether posters weighted concerns about Hokkaido’s finances more heavily, or the institutional rationale behind private-sector pay parity.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “Hokkaido Civil Servant Pay to Rise ¥210,000/Year on Average to ¥6.72 Million, Personnel Commission Recommends.”

  • Highly Educated Employee Fired for Clinging to ‘How Things Should Be’ — 5ch: ‘His Smarts Are Just Pointed in the Wrong Direction’

    A case reported by Nikkei about a young employee — a graduate of a top-tier national university’s graduate school — being fired has become a hot topic on 5ch. According to the article, the employee pounded on his desk with a plastic bottle and burst into tears during a meeting with his boss, and used his company-issued smartphone to secretly photograph coworkers and send them insulting messages. On the thread, opinions clashed between those suspecting a developmental disorder behind the behavior and those framing it as a social-skills problem that credentials alone can’t measure; some even defended his stubborn insistence on “how things should be,” and the discussion spiraled into debates about generational gaps and so-called “credential laundering” (gakureki ronda — using a prestigious grad school to dress up an otherwise unremarkable academic record).

    Highly educated young employee insists on “how things should be” before doing the job, says “the company is wrong” after getting fired

    Yureta Tenbin (a handle meaning “Wavering Scales”)

    October 2, 2026, 10:00

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    5AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:44
    Speaking as a new-grad full-time employee, sure, a starting salary of 350k yen is nice and all, but they cram way too much training into you because they want to make you a manager while you're still in your 20s.
    Maybe it's due to the labor shortage, but they rush to develop new hires so hard that people burn out and quit early.
    One of my fellow new hires quit after just six months because of it.
    Also, the power harassment and sexual harassment from bubble-generation bosses (those 40+) is seriously awful.
    "You don't even know that?"
    "You're useless."
    "I'm only telling you once."
    Those guys aren't even human.
    They should hurry up and get laid off and go work in some other labor-starved industry.
    80AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:09
    Re: #5
    Copypasta? Bait? Well, speaking up myself — about six years ago the breakdown was:
    Bubble generation: 50s and up
    Baby-boomer Jr. generation: 40s and up
    Yutori (relaxed-education) generation: 20s and up
    Even with a grad degree, if you're Yutori generation, maybe it's no surprise you can't keep up.
    201AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:57
    Re: #5
    "You don't even know that?"
    "You're useless."
    "I'm only telling you once."

    You're gonna let that hurt you?
    You're pretty weak as a living creature, huh.
    228AnonymousOct 4, 2026 00:08
    Re: #5
    The bubble generation is 55 and older.

    Below that is the ice-age generation (hit by the 90s job-market crash).

    45 and under is Yutori.
    13AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:47
    Screening out nutjobs (atama okashii, "crazy in the head") like this is literally the recruiter's most important job…
    But then again, maybe HR got fooled too.
    21AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:49
    Honestly not that different from how you guys act.
    Excerpt from the subscriber-only article:


    >> The employee secretly photographed coworkers with his company-issued smartphone, and wrote up insults to send to third parties.
    >> He pounded on the desk with a plastic bottle and burst into tears during a meeting with his boss, and when warned in the workplace he'd shout and protest, which left those around him frightened.
    >> "He's literally running at full throttle, and shows no sign of stopping."
    >> The email where his boss pleaded with HR about the situation had a huge pile of work-unrelated messages from the employee attached to it.
    32AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:52
    Re: #21

    Sounds like a mental illness.

    Even if you graduate from a good university and land a good job, there's no guarantee your brain won't break..
    55AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:01
    Re: #40
    This (Re: #21) is just one small part of a whole bunch of stuff that happened.
    123AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:31
    Re: #21
    Uh… what?
    What's Nikkei's goal in turning such a bizarre one-off case into an article?
    40AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:57
    > Joined a project team at a major materials manufacturer in 2013 tasked with overhauling the in-house systems

    Just going by that part, his insistence on "how things should be" — asking "why does our company even do business this way?" — doesn't seem all that wrong to me.

    Well, I'm sure there was a ton of other stuff going on besides that, though.
    160AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:46
    Re: #40
    I bet the problem was there was no "here's how it should be, so let's change it that way" — just endless nitpicking (down to the millimeter) about the current state.
    Sometimes "let's just move forward for now" matters in a workplace too.
    47AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:59
    Re: #13
    Depending on how you use them, people like this can actually be capable.
    53AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:01
    Re: #47
    "Fools and scissors are useful if you know how to use them" (an old Japanese saying)…
    but honestly, it'd be quicker to just hire someone else lol
    61AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:02
    Re: #47
    Scissors that end up shredding everyone around them
    are too dangerous to use.
    48AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:59
    Isn't this just a case of so-called "credential laundering" since it's a grad degree?
    More like his natural intelligence (jigashira) is pretty bad.
    67AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:04
    Re: #48
    His natural intelligence is almost certainly way better than yours —
    it's just that the direction he's pointing that intelligence in is completely off.
    75AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:07
    Re: #48
    I don't think there's really such a thing as "credential laundering" for science/engineering at a former Imperial University —
    the grad school entrance exam is actually harder than the undergrad one.
    81AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:09
    I don't think you can actually fire someone useless like this —
    depends how far the rule violations went, I guess —
    but realistically, if they transfer him to sales and that doesn't work either, they just end up keeping him on in general affairs forever.
    84AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:10
    Re: #81
    Don't just dump him on the admin department like that.
    95AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:15
    Re: #81
    I've had someone like that dumped on me before.
    It wasn't just that he didn't work — like, he'd forget his PC password and get locked out, so I'd have to handle wiping and resetting the whole PC.
    He couldn't even fill out his timesheet properly, and he dragged everyone around him down in every possible way.
    120AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:28
    Re: #75
    Really? About 30 years ago, a third of the University of Tokyo's graduate engineering program came from outside schools.
    It was way easier than the undergrad entrance exam, and nobody from the same university who wanted to advance ever failed it.
    Might've been because so few people wanted to go on to grad school, a holdover from the bubble era, though.
    127AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:33
    Re: #120
    I thought it was common knowledge that going on to grad school is basically assumed for science and engineering majors — why are you lying like that lol.
    Advancing to grad school is just the default for science and engineering.
    211AnonymousOct 4, 2026 00:00
    Re: #120
    I was in a former-Imperial-University science program about 30 years ago, and the grad school entrance exam had close to a 2x competition ratio.
    Out of 7 people I knew, 3 passed.
    Among the 4 who didn't, some gave up from the start and didn't even take the exam, though.
    126AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:33
    Highly educated people whose parents are reasonably well-off seriously have barely any part-time job experience, so they don't understand the real world at all.
    129AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:35
    Re: #126
    I mean, I'd be a little annoyed if someone thought they understood the whole world just from a part-time job,
    but yeah, you do need to realize there are way more clueless idiots out there than you'd expect.
    145AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:41
    Re: #129
    We've got new hires coming in who probably never had a part-time job, and they can't even say a proper greeting lol.
    It's ridiculous having to teach a 22-year-old that from scratch —
    it's something you learn as a high school freshman.
    159AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:44
    Can't really say for sure since we don't know all the details.
    It might just be a story about this one guy being messed up, or conversely, it might be a story about how Japanese companies still can't make proper use of highly educated talent — only knowing how to use people the same way regardless of whether they're high school or university grads.
    164AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:47
    Re: #159
    At a major materials manufacturer, the people around him are probably on the same level too, so I'd guess it's less "the company can't use him" and more that this guy is just an outlier.
    189AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:53
    Re: #159
    At a major materials company, the science-track staff are mostly grad-school grads from former Imperial Universities or other top schools, so credential-wise it's probably about the same or even the people around him are a notch higher.
    195AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:55
    Re: #159
    Judging by the string of messed-up behavior listed in the article, I'd guess it's some kind of personality disorder.
    233AnonymousOct 4, 2026 00:11
    There are people out there yelling "but GAFA does it this way!" —
    but that's because the executives doing the hiring over there
    are themselves the socially maladjusted type.
    236AnonymousOct 4, 2026 00:12
    Re: #233
    That's exactly why they've become companies that rule the world lol
    237AnonymousOct 4, 2026 00:12
    Re: #233
    Elon Musk too lol
    242AnonymousOct 4, 2026 00:14
    Re: #233
    Even if you're totally [censored], you can still be king as long as you deliver results.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    In Japan, the legal doctrine against abuse of the right to dismiss (kaiko-ken ran’yō) sets a high bar for firing someone over poor performance or misconduct, meaning that even when problem behavior like what’s described in the article continues, those on the ground often can’t act on it right away. Comments on the thread like “there’s no way they can actually fire him” or “they’ll just have to keep him on in general affairs forever” reflect this underlying structure. On the other hand, posts linking the behavior — secretly photographing coworkers, spreading insults, bursting into tears and pounding the desk — to a developmental disorder stood out, but it’s worth noting that neither the Nikkei article nor the 5ch posts offer any actual diagnosis; it remains pure speculation. Also, the debate over whether this counts as “credential laundering,” centered on how difficult the grad school entrance exam is, doesn’t really hold together, since posters are drawing on different eras and universities with different underlying assumptions.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and summaries of the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Highly Educated Young Female Employee, Graduate of a Top-Tier National University Graduate School, Highly Educated Young Employee Insists on “How Things Should Be” Before Working, Says “The Company Is Wrong” After Being Fired.”

  • Panda-less Ueno Zoo Sees Visitor Numbers Plunge 20% — New Star Attraction Is the ‘Bird That Doesn’t Move,’ the Shoebill

    Visitor numbers at Tokyo’s Ueno Zoo have been sliding since giant pandas Xiao Xiao and Lei Lei were returned to China at the end of January. Attendance from February to August this year dropped roughly 19% year-on-year, and the zoo has announced plans to promote the shoebill — known as “the bird that doesn’t move” — as its new star attraction. On 5ch, a thread debated candidates to replace the pandas, floating ideas like red pandas or a dinosaur exhibit, while others pointed out that shoebills actually move quite a bit in captivity, fueling further discussion.

    Visitor numbers at Ueno Zoo (Taito Ward, Tokyo) have been falling since giant pandas Xiao Xiao and Lei Lei were returned to China and the zoo lost its pandas at the end of January. Attendance from February through August this year fell by about 20% compared with the same period last year. The zoo continues to search for solutions, including promoting the popular shoebill — known as “the bird that doesn’t move” — as a new star attraction. (By Yuka Isogawa)

    Xiao Xiao and Lei Lei, who were born at Ueno Zoo and became popular for playfully frolicking together as twins, were last available for viewing on January 25. According to the Tokyo metropolitan government, visitor numbers in January, the month the two pandas were returned, actually exceeded the previous year’s by nearly 30,000 — but attendance slumped afterward. The zoo’s visitor count from February to August was about 1.53 million, down 19% from the same period the previous year.

    Deputy director Mikako Kaneko said, “The drop in visitors has shown up as a clear effect. Previously, many people came even on weekdays specifically to see the pandas.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    3AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:31
    [Image] The 'bird that doesn't move': the shoebill
    https://imgur.com/a/hMRQEh9
    25AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:46
    Re: #5
    Reposted it at Re: #3
    Sorry about that
    5AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:32
    Re: #1
    The image won't load for me
    8AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:36
    Sick of panda diplomacy already
    Red pandas would be fine
    81AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:20
    Re: #8
    Not cute at all
    Stoats would be better
    39AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:52
    Put Rodin on display!
    41AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:53
    Re: #39
    It's already right next door at the National Museum of Western Art
    63AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:04
    Re: #39
    Rhodan? (mixing up the sculptor Rodin with Perry Rhodan, Japan's long-running pulp sci-fi novel series) As of September it's up to volume 769 — so which volume of Rhodan are you going to display?
    If you say 'the latest one,' watch out — it'll be up to 772 by November!
    53AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:00
    Re: #1
    Meanwhile, China just painted a dog and put it on display
    https://www.cnn.co.jp/fringe/35224137.html
    67AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:08
    Re: #53

    Kid: 'Yay, there's a panda!'
    Dad: 'Nah, nah, that ain't no panda, nah, nah' (dad slips into Kansai dialect)
    Kid: 'Dad, I don't know what you're saying'
    88AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:23
    There are plenty of inbound tourists with kids too, you know
    Admission is dirt cheap compared to zoos in Europe
    92AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:25
    Re: #88
    Yeah, Japan's even seen as a cheap travel destination by Southeast Asia these days
    131AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:44
    Re: #88
    They can't charge big money for a place that cramped
    That's not a zoo
    It's a freak show
    Every animal is pacing around a tiny space like a sleepwalker
    It's unbearably sad
    114AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:34
    My local zoo had news about unveiling a baby red panda, and it was ridiculously cute. Giant pandas just move like middle-aged guys once they're grown, don't they
    120AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:37
    Re: #114
    The black parts and long torso on red pandas kind of creep me out
    136AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:45
    What about a Kemono Friends collab? Oh wait, too late — it's all Chiikawa collabs now (Kemono Friends and Chiikawa are popular Japanese character franchises)
    140AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:47
    Re: #136
    They're actually doing that right now
    148AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:52
    Ueno should take a lesson from Nanki-Shirahama and Adventure World
    This is why Tokyo people are such a joke… all excuses, no actual countermeasures, total trash.

    "Adventure World has changed too. Where posters and videos used to feature nothing but pandas, now other animals are front and center too — baby penguins, for example.
    There are 120 species and 1,600 animals there. Plenty of appealing things to see. I think they've worked hard and held up well despite the panda shock."
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/e242a60a3bf4d85d1392efd764e00159f2923b96

    It's been just over a year since all four of the giant pandas that were the star attraction at Adventure World, a leisure facility in Shirahama, Wakayama Prefecture, were returned at once.
    Locals in Shirahama expected a major drop in tourists, but according to the prefecture's 'tourist trend survey' for last year, released in late August,
    the total number of visitors to the town and tourist spots like Shirahama Onsen actually exceeded the figures from two years earlier, and has held at roughly the same level in the months since the pandas left.
    151AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:55
    Re: #148
    They've racked up tens of billions of yen in losses on panda enclosures, breeding facilities, and the like
    All just so some idiot city could show off
    156AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:58
    Re: #151
    Source on the 'tens of billions in losses'?
    Did Ueno Zoo actually say that?
    157AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:58
    If they borrowed some dinosaurs from Jungleia to put on display, it might actually be a hit (Jungleia is a theme park in Okinawa)
    160AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:01
    Re: #157
    Isn't the captain who gets eaten the real star there
    159AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:59
    Nobody's going out of their way to see a shoebill lol
    But people travel from the countryside just to see pandas
    166AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:08
    Re: #159
    You just don't know how popular shoebills are lol
    By the way, shoebills actually move around a lot in captivity
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHuyk8sdhUw
    212AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:40
    Re: #159
    Honestly, that take might be right on the mark
    Rather than fixating on pandas — which can be politically exploited by China and the like —
    they need to seriously think about exhibiting an animal that could draw crowds from everywhere
    and that everyone secretly, truly wants to see…
    and ideally one that doesn't need to be imported from abroad each time, but can be sourced domestically in Japan…
    There's an ultra-clever secret plan hiding in that idea
    161AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:02
    They just want to blame the whole drop in visitors on pandas so they can fawn over China
    163AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:05
    Re: #161
    Come on, a sudden 20% drop right after the pandas left has to be because of the pandas

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Pandas disappeared from Ueno Zoo because Xiao Xiao and Lei Lei were returned to China at the end of January. Pandas on loan from China are part of “panda diplomacy,” and returning them once the loan term ends is standard practice. Adventure World in Wakayama Prefecture had a similar experience returning its pandas, but is said to have maintained tourist numbers by diversifying its animal exhibits — a contrast with Ueno’s response that became a talking point in the thread. Opinions were divided on whether the entire drop in visitors can be blamed on the pandas, with some commenters questioning the specific figure of “tens of billions of yen in losses.” There were also comments pointing out a gap between image and reality regarding the shoebill, known as “the bird that doesn’t move” — in practice, many individuals are quite active in captivity.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Panda-less Ueno Zoo sees visitors drop 20%… promoting the ‘bird that doesn’t move,’ the shoebill, as a new star attraction.”

  • Driver’s License Photos Leaked from Times Car — Identity Theft Fears Spark Talk of Class-Action Lawsuit

    Major car-sharing company Times Car has suffered a leak of users’ driver’s license photos, raising fears the images could be used for identity theft. According to an article distributed by Kyodo News on October 2, some users are already moving toward a class-action lawsuit. On 5ch, with the company’s membership reportedly around 6.6 million people, reports that compensation would amount to roughly a ¥500 book voucher per person sparked outrage, with users calling it “insulting.” At the same time, practical questions emerged over how much real damage is even possible — whether a license photo alone is enough to take out a loan or sign a phone contract — so the discussion split between debating whether the compensation is fair and whether such misuse is actually feasible.

    License Photo Leak Raises Identity Theft Fears — Times Car Faces Possible Class Action

    Published 10/2 (Fri) 15:57

    Kyodo News

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    9AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:22
    Asked an AI about it — apparently it's something like ¥200,000+ per person
    142AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:13
    Re: #9
    If they take out a card loan [using the stolen info], it could balloon to ¥500,000–1,000,000 per person.
    21AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:25
    With 1.6 million people affected, that amount is way too little
    They should keep blasting this on TV day and night, nonstop
    30AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:29
    Re: #21
    It's 6.6 million, actually.
    27AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:28
    I had a contract with them for a few months 10 years ago when I scrapped my car
    67AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:42
    Re: #27
    If they've been stockpiling old users' info too, that's pretty messed up
    Is it even legal to keep that stuff on file?
    34AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:31
    A ¥500 book voucher per person lmaooooooo
    There's a limit to how much you can insult people
    57AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:38
    Re: #34
    That's exactly why they're filing a class-action damages suit
    If Times can't prove the fault wasn't theirs,
    they'll be on the hook for the financial and emotional damages
    36AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:32
    Times Car is a victim here too, you know?
    Does nobody have any sympathy?
    41AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:34
    Re: #36
    That's what 'duty to manage' [company liability for data security] means, you know
    40AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:33
    Companies drill it into us that personal data is important, but when it actually leaks nobody takes any real responsibility
    I guess the whole point is supposed to be protecting the company's own reputation afterward
    Yet despite that, they're doing nothing in terms of countermeasures or compensation — makes no sense
    50AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:36
    Re: #40
    That's exactly why they keep pushing the My Number card so hard — the law's written so the government never has to take responsibility either lol
    61AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:39
    The inevitable fate of a dumb company that hoards customers' personal data
    65AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:41
    Re: #61
    They occasionally run first-time-only promotions,
    so they have to cross-check records to exclude people reapplying for a second time
    which means they were probably keeping all past members' info on file

    Running first-timer-only campaigns is purely for Times' own convenience,
    and keeping the data around was purely for their own convenience too lol
    62AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:39
    I'm not too bright so I don't really get this, but can someone really take out a loan or whatever these days using just another person's license photo (not the physical card)?
    Does it mean 'since it's done online instead of in person, you can impersonate someone and abuse it'?

    Don't you usually have to submit other documents too, so isn't there some kind of double-check in place?
    So wouldn't it be true that just having a license photo leaked doesn't let the criminal do much serious damage?

    I've never taken out a loan or anything like that, so I don't really get how the system works
    If you can commit fraud with just a license photo, isn't the company's security way too lax?
    72AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:44
    Re: #62
    Same here
    If they're not verifying in person anyway, what's even the point of sending in the license photo?
    74AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:45
    Re: #62
    If you wanted to borrow money, you could fake your employer info and get a loan that way, or skip borrowing directly and instead make a card and do stuff with it
    Also easy targets are opening a bank account or signing up for a phone plan
    89AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:53
    The scariest scenario is robbery
    If they know your address, name, and face,
    they can tell if you're rich and target you
    125AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:07
    Re: #89
    Would a rich person even use this kind of service?
    135AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:10
    Re: #125
    Sure they would
    You can even drop the car off somewhere else while you're out
    139AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:11
    Re: #135
    Isn't Times a one-way-only service where you have to return it to where you picked it up?
    143AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:13
    Re: #135
    People saying only poor people use this don't make any sense
    109AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:01
    They really just need to make sure a license number and photo alone can't verify someone's identity
    Security really is an endless cat-and-mouse game
    113AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:03
    Re: #109
    Maybe they should stop finishing everything online and do a final confirmation by mail instead
    117AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:04
    Re: #113
    Since there's no physical original to check against, maybe you could tell it's a leaked copy if the image resolution is low?
    119AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:04
    Re: #113
    Sounds like they're moving toward IC-chip-based smartphone verification
    138AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:11
    What's the first thing someone affected should even do?
    They can't exactly cancel their license…
    152AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:15
    Re: #138
    Good question
    I can't think of a real countermeasure, but praying or cursing them out is something you can do right away
    Maybe the one small comfort is that with so many people affected, each individual's odds of actually becoming a crime victim are low?
    Even the bad guys have limited bandwidth, after all
    Though they'll probably just sell the data anyway

    Not really a countermeasure, but switching to a different car-share service?
    Then again, if everyone suddenly switches over, that service just gets harder to book too

    If everyone quit Times Car, it would relatively become easier to book, though
    163AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:20
    Re: #138
    Well, the fault lies entirely with the service provider that let the license info get misused — the person whose data was stolen bears zero responsibility lol

    The worst that happens to the victim is maybe getting wrongly banned from something without even knowing why
    170AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:23
    Re: #138
    For loans and the like, the lender is taking on a lot of risk too

    Maybe keep a diary so you're covered in case your info gets misused?
    Though thinking an alibi alone will be enough might be a bit naive
    146AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:13
    Reloaded the news board and there are already threads up about Dai-ichi Life and Avahouse leaking data too lol

    Is this kind of thing only this common in Japan?
    162AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:18
    Re: #146
    The FBI leaked a personal info list of all its employees
    The Department of Defense had its personnel database hacked, leaking data on 3 million people

    The rest of the world operates on a completely different scale lol
    166AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:21
    Re: #162
    Times Car is somehow outdoing a leak that shook all of America lmao
    168AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:22
    Re: #166
    That's more than double the Pentagon's numbers lol
    169AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:22
    Re: #166
    It's not 'the whole nation wept' — what would you even call this instead?

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The leak of images of identity documents like a driver’s license is often treated under Japan’s personal information protection law as information requiring special care, and companies find it hard to avoid liability for damages unless they can prove the leak wasn’t their fault. Where opinions in the thread diverged was over just how directly the image leak itself translates into real-world harm. Many services don’t complete identity verification with a license photo alone — misuse often requires going through additional steps like opening a bank account or signing a loan contract — so views split over how to gauge the actual scale of potential damage. Posters also cited differing figures for the membership count and compensation amount, and the article text alone doesn’t make clear which numbers reflect the company’s latest official statement. A point readers may easily misunderstand is that an image leak doesn’t immediately translate into financial loss — whether the stolen data can actually be pushed through subsequent contract procedures is what determines whether the misuse succeeds.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “[Times Car] License Photo Leak Raises Identity Theft Fears, Possible Class Action.”

  • Daughter Who Was Supposed to Leave Early Never Comes Home — Turns Out She Overslept on the Bus and Spent 2 Hours Locked in the Garage; 5ch: ‘My Jaded Heart Just Melted a Little’

    Shortly after noon on October 1, a high school girl fell asleep on a Fujikyu Mobility route bus running within Shizuoka Prefecture and went unnoticed when the bus reached its terminus at Gotemba Station — she ended up locked inside for about two hours after the bus returned to the garage. The driver reportedly went back to the garage without checking the bus’s interior at the terminus. The student has not reported any injury or illness. On the 5ch thread, many posters offered concrete suggestions for preventing this kind of oversight or shared similar experiences of their own, while others questioned why an incident with no injuries made national news at all — reactions were split.

    Delivered 10/2 (Fri) 16:03 — Shizuoka Broadcasting System (SBS)

    Shortly after noon on October 1, a high school girl who had fallen asleep on a route bus operated by Fujikyu Mobility went unnoticed and was left inside the bus for two hours after it returned to the garage. The company says the student has not reported feeling unwell.

    According to Fujikyu Mobility, the student boarded the bus — which left Mishima Station at 10:50 a.m. on October 1 bound for Gotemba Station — at the “Nichidai-mae” stop partway along the route. She was asleep when the bus reached the Gotemba Station terminus, but the driver returned to the garage without checking inside, leaving the student stranded on board.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    20AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:39
    I wonder if she paid the fare?
    Well, glad she's okay anyway.
    221AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:43
    Re: #20
    She's got a school commuter pass, hasn't she?
    23AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:41
    Stuff like this happens a lot — maybe they should design a proper system instead of just leaving it to the driver.
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:42
    Re: #23
    At the terminal, blast the sound of nails scraping a chalkboard through the cabin at full volume.
    44AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:45
    Re: #23
    There's already a low-tech version of that — some buses have the driver push a button at the back-most seat when they reach the terminal.
    105AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:01
    Re: #23
    Just make it so the only door is at the front and the driver's seat is all the way at the back.
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:42
    So she walked home?
    Pretty rare these days for a kid not to have a smartphone.
    55AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:48
    Re: #28
    Probably a case where the terminal stop and the garage are one and the same.
    58AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:48
    This happened to me on JR Central years ago.
    Total oversight on the conductor's part, and they still flat-out insisted they'd done nothing wrong!
    143AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:14
    Re: #58
    To be fair, you were curled up asleep down in the footwell that time.
    I figured 'yeah, no wonder they didn't see you' — but I still gave them an earful.
    80AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:55
    Re: #2
    She didn't even do anything wrong, and now it's blown up like this — that's gotta feel awful for her.
    Don't go turning it into national news.
    124AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:09
    Re: #80
    But she rode all the way to the terminal, then quietly got off and walked home on her own — didn't she?
    83AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:55
    Forklifts are built so the lever won't work unless there's weight on the seat — buses should have something similar, a warning light near the driver's seat that comes on if there's still weight on a passenger seat, with the feature locked so only the manufacturer can disable it.
    107AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:01
    Re: #83
    Right?
    Toyota-sama, Hino-sama,
    Isuzu-sama…
    who else is there?
    And isn't Mitsubishi Fuso basically Mercedes-Benz these days?
    88AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:57
    I couldn't care less about Gotemba.
    95AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:59
    Re: #88
    Gotemba, gotta love a good prank.
    98AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:00
    Re: #89
    Oh I see
    Hadn't read that
    Did she pass out or something?

    Re: #88
    Japan's top company, Toyota-sama, apparently works off its frustrations right next door in Susono City, Shizuoka

    The future capital
    probably
    111AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:04
    Hold on though
    if it had been some middle-aged salaryman who overslept instead,
    would this even be news?
    112AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:04
    Re: #111
    'The middle-aged man was uninjured.'
    136AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:11
    How did this even become news in the first place?
    If the girl just got off the bus and went home, nobody but her would know what happened.
    Did she tell her family or friends, and it somehow reached someone connected to SBS?
    138AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:12
    Re: #136
    Obviously her parents reported it.
    147AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:16
    If she didn't pay the fare all the way to the terminal, does that technically count as fare-dodging?
    Eh, who cares about the technicalities — it's a heartwarming little story.
    Had to work on my day off, and this somehow soothed my jaded soul.
    159AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:19
    Re: #147

    She paid the fare all the way to the terminal, idiot!
    148AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:16
    If the reason she left school early wasn't feeling sick,
    was it some kind of family emergency?
    But if so, sleeping soundly for a full two hours seems unlikely.
    I don't really get it.
    156AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:18
    Re: #148
    Maybe it was just 'heading home 'cause I'm sleep-deprived~'
    171AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:23
    Re: #148
    'No complaint reported' just means she hasn't come forward saying 'I felt sick because I was stuck there for 2 hours!'
    That's separate from whatever her reason for leaving early was.
    155AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:18
    I fell asleep in summer once and got left behind for an hour.
    Woke up because it got so hot, and was shocked to find the driver taking a nap.
    The driver was just as shocked to see me.
    160AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:19
    Re: #155
    Did you have a triangular cloth on your forehead? (the kind ghosts/corpses wear in Japanese folklore — joking you looked like you'd died)
    158AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:18
    There's a sign inside buses that says 'If you notice a sleeping passenger at the terminal, please tell the driver' —
    probably exists precisely because of stuff like this.
    165AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:20
    Re: #158
    So if you happen to be the only passenger on board,
    should you just self-report: 'I'm about to fall asleep~'?
    202AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:35
    Don't they check for lost items or messes left behind or anything?
    212AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:40
    Re: #202
    If it's just checking whether any passengers are left, they tend to cut corners with a quick glance or a shout-out,
    but if it's checking for lost-and-found items or cleaning, you'd think they'd normally walk all the way to the back row.

    Background and talking points

    The report includes the line “the student has not reported feeling unwell,” but this refers specifically to not having reported any ill effects from being stuck in the garage for two hours — it has nothing to do with her reason for leaving school early. On the thread, some posters conflated this line with her early-leave excuse and speculated she might have been “skipping class,” but reading the article’s wording carefully shows this has no bearing on whether her early departure itself was legitimate. There’s also a structural reason oversights like this happen at terminal stops: many bus operators lack any mechanical detection method, such as seat sensors, and rely entirely on drivers’ visual checks. Several posters on the thread described similar experiences of their own, suggesting this wasn’t an especially rare case. Looked at purely as “nobody got hurt and she made it home safely,” it’s a minor incident — but the fact that it was framed around a parent’s anxiety over “my daughter, who was supposed to come home early, hasn’t come home” is likely one reason it ended up as national news.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “‘My daughter, who was supposed to come home early, hasn’t come home’ — high school girl asleep on a route bus goes unnoticed… left stranded in the garage for two hours, Shizuoka.”

  • Government Puts Its Red Feather Charity PR on Hold — 5ch: ‘They’re All Cut From the Same Cloth’

    Following news that a social welfare corporation in Hokkaido can’t account for donations it collected, the government has decided to hold off this year on having cabinet ministers pin red feathers to their chests for publicity as part of the Community Chest charity drive, which kicked off as usual on October 1. The call for public donations itself continues as it does every year. On 5ch, the scandal stirred up distrust toward the donation system as a whole, with many venting about the de facto forced collections run through neighborhood associations, alongside trivia-style chatter about the origins of the red feather and the meaning of its color — so the thread grew from one organization’s scandal into broader doubts about donation culture itself.

    Oct 1 (Thu), 18:45 JST

    Asahi Shimbun

    As the Red Feather Community Chest charity drive kicks off on the 1st as it does every year, the government will refrain from having cabinet ministers across various ministries pin red feathers to their chests to promote it. The decision comes in light of the issue of a large sum of donations going unaccounted for at a social welfare corporation in Hokkaido. The call for public donations continues.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:09
    And so the scapegoating begins (throwing a small fry under the bus to protect the higher-ups)
    7AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:11
    Don't trust Red Feather or Nippon TV (both run big charity telethons)
    84AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:00
    Re: #7
    You shouldn't trust charity donations in the first place — more than half of it ends up in the organizers' pockets.
    9AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:12
    These local donation associations are just cushy retirement landing spots for local government bigwigs.
    Why would you want to feed those guys lol
    12AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:14
    Saw a whole group of them out front of Kawaguchi Station yesterday.
    127AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:41
    Re: #12
    Local students are out there collecting too. If the organization's just blowing the money on staff drinking and partying, that's basically a crime being run legally — using even students to rake in cash for it.
    20AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:18
    In my area the block captain (組長, neighborhood group leader) comes around to collect in person, so you can't really refuse — my name's already written on the receipt.
    32AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:24
    Re: #20
    Thought you meant mob protection money for a second lol
    21AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:20
    So it's not really the 'Red Feather' — it's the 'Commie Feather'? (アカ is slang for 'communist')
    22AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:21
    No different from a scam ring, honestly.
    52AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:35
    You can always say you've got no cash and decline — but when it's Boy Scout kids doing the collecting, you end up wanting to chip in.
    That's a cheap trick.
    59AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:39
    Re: #52
    For a second I misread that as 'wanting to put Boy Scout kids inside something' and recoiled.
    53AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:36
    Red Feather —
    red is the color of communism, you know.
    58AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:39
    Re: #53
    True, but apparently the original idea was based on Native American feather headdresses.
    153AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:15
    Re: #58
    Ah, I see —
    a symbol of a people whose land was stolen by outsiders, who were slaughtered, and who've been exploited ever since.
    Pretty dark and ironic thing to hand donors, when you think about it.
    65AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:42
    They were out there collecting without a shred of shame.
    68AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:45
    Re: #65
    They probably have no idea the money collected goes toward lining the executives' pockets. Poor kids.
    86AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:01
    My neighborhood association basically shook us down for 'donations.'
    Disband already, you scam outfit.
    93AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:04
    Re: #86
    That's unconstitutional, honestly.
    Could someone put together a legal team for a lawsuit to get the donations refunded?
    97AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:11
    Re: #86
    Seriously, this.
    Probably the feathers that get stuffed in your mailbox
    are the neighborhood association's doing too.
    102AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:17
    Feel kind of bad for the low-level volunteers who get snide comments thrown at them lol
    135AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:49
    Re: #102
    Plenty of people only walk up to them just to get a dig in, though.
    144AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:04
    Stuff like this is bound to happen.
    So I just want a clear explanation of what actually went on.
    The idiots saying 'I'll never donate because of this!' were never going to donate anyway, so just ignore them.
    167AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:24
    What's the money actually being used for?
    192AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:03
    My neighborhood association just collects it from us with no questions asked — wish they'd stop.
    193AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:05
    Re: #192
    Isn't the neighborhood association skimming a cut off the top?
    That's why they can't stop. You must have a hunch, right?
    197AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:21
    Re: #167
    Most of it gets skimmed off for food and drinks.
    199AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:26
    Re: #197
    Why not just rename it the 'Skimmer's Feather' at this point? (a pun on ピンハネ, meaning 'skimming money off the top')
    204AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:40
    Re: #199
    >'Skimmer's Feather'

    That really captures what's actually going on.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    The Red Feather Community Chest is a nationwide charity drive that kicks off every October 1, with donations channeled through social welfare councils and similar bodies into local welfare programs. What’s actually being scaled back here is cabinet ministers’ practice of pinning on feathers for publicity — not the donation drive itself, a distinction that’s easy to miss. The thread split over whether to treat the unaccounted-for funds at the one Hokkaido organization as proof of fraud across the whole system, or as an isolated scandal at a single organization; those leaning toward the former also had plenty to say about the de facto forced collections run through neighborhood associations. At the same time, there was no shortage of trivia-style back-and-forth about the feather’s origins and the meaning of its color, so the thread wasn’t uniformly critical.

    *This article is an excerpted and summarized compilation based on the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Government Holds Off on ‘Red Feather’ Pins Amid Missing Donations Scandal — Fundraising Calls Continue.”

  • Akita City Hikes Water & Sewer Rates Sharply — Now the Highest Among Tohoku Prefectural Capitals

    Starting next April, Akita City will raise its water and sewer rates. Water rates will go up by an average of 32%, and sewer rates by 18%. For a standard four-person household using 20 cubic meters a month, the combined bill will hit 7,502 yen — the highest among the six Tohoku prefectural capitals. That’s over 2,000 yen more than Sendai, currently the cheapest. The city cites falling rate revenue from population decline, but on 5ch, commenters debated whether the hike is linked to the city’s ongoing dedicated soccer stadium project, the legal requirement that water utilities be run as self-funding independent enterprises, and the wide disparities in water rates seen across Japan.

    Akita City will raise its water and sewer rates next April. Water rates will rise by an average of 32%, and sewer rates by 18%. For an average household, that puts the monthly bill at 7,502 yen for 20 cubic meters of usage — the highest of any Tohoku prefectural capital. The city points to declining rate revenue amid population decline, but residents have voiced dissatisfaction.

    According to the city, for the standard four-person household usage of 20 cubic meters a month, current rates are 2,860 yen for water and 3,113 yen for sewer. Among Tohoku’s prefectural capitals, Akita’s water rate is currently the second-cheapest after Aomori, while its sewer rate sits around the middle (see table).

    From next April, the water rate will jump to 3,828 yen and the sewer rate to 3,674 yen. Both will become the highest among the six cities, pushing the combined bill up by about 1,500 yen. That leaves a gap of more than 2,000 yen compared to Sendai, the cheapest of the group.

    Source: kahoku.news / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:12
    Japanese politicians who'll fund infrastructure overseas but won't fund infrastructure in Japan
    7AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:14
    Re: #3
    This is just on Akita for building a soccer stadium nobody needed.
    I like soccer, but come on, this one's way too unnecessary
    26AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:32
    It's not just rural areas — even cities like Fukuoka are pretty pricey.
    Osaka City and Sakai City are neighbors, but the rate is almost double?

    Re: #3
    Re: #12

    Water rates in prefectural capitals & designated cities
    As of October 2025
    20m³, 13mm meter, tax included

    Nagasaki City: 7,815 yen
    Nagano City: 7,164 yen
    Yamagata City: 6,864 yen
    Saga City: 6,688 yen
    Matsue City: 6,677 yen
    Niigata City: 6,281 yen
    Saitama City: 5,748 yen
    Fukuoka City: 5,478 yen
    Sendai City: 5,470 yen
    Hamamatsu City: 5,452 yen
    Shizuoka City: 5,384 yen
    Sakai City: 5,285 yen
    162AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:00
    Re: #3
    Before that — it's the voters who actively choose and support those politicians in the first place.
    If you want to complain, complain about yourselves
    12AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:19
    Akita and Aomori should just have everyone move to Sendai and build a compact city at this point.
    Leave maybe 100 volunteers behind to keep the Namahage tradition going (Namahage: Akita's traditional demon-masked New Year folk ritual)
    20AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:27
    Kasukabe City in Saitama is hiking rates by an average of 38%, you know? lol
    145AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:28
    Re: #20
    Why's that? Because the ground is all soft and mushy?
    25AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:32
    So basically, Akita City Hall / city employees (the water bureau, presumably) failed at running the water utility — meaning they lacked the competence to manage it. Is that what this is?
    29AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:36
    Re: #25
    Not including repair costs in water rates isn't just an Akita thing, it's nationwide.
    It's only recently that some municipalities have finally started folding repair costs into the rates
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:35
    Yikes, that's pricey.
    Mine's 2,400 yen
    55AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:00
    Re: #28
    Sewer systems have different coverage rates so you can't really compare, but
    for water rates, there's a 12x difference.

    Among Japan's 1,718 municipalities — water rate for 10m³
    Top 10 (cheapest)
    Rank Municipality Prefecture
    1. Tabayama Village — Yamanashi — 330 yen
    2. Ako City — Hyogo — 374 yen
    3. Narusawa Village — Yamanashi — 385 yen
    4. Oyama Town — Shizuoka — 423 yen
    5. Doshi Village — Yamanashi — 440 yen
    6. Yamanakako Village — Yamanashi — 506 yen
    7. Fujikawaguchiko Town — Yamanashi — 520 yen
    8. Shirakawa Village — Gifu — 524 yen
    9. Akishima City — Tokyo — 528 yen
    10. Nakatosa Town — Kochi — 550 yen

    Worst 10 (most expensive)
    Rank Municipality Prefecture
    1. Kaneyama Town — Fukushima — 4,233 yen
    2. Tenei Village — Fukushima — 3,597 yen
    3. Rausu Town — Hokkaido — 3,550 yen
    4. Misato Town — Miyagi — 3,410 yen
    5. Wazuka Town — Kyoto — 3,300 yen
    6. Tome City — Miyagi — 3,220 yen
    7. Biratori Town — Hokkaido — 3,210 yen
    8. Kamiamakusa City — Kumamoto — 3,190 yen
    9. Hamanaka Town — Hokkaido — 3,190 yen
    10. Teshio Town — Hokkaido — 3,179 yen
    127AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:01
    Re: #55
    Kamiamakusa draws its water supply from Yatsushiro, you know.
    It was cut off for a long time after the earthquake.
    And Yatsushiro itself only has a water supply coverage rate in the 50-some percent range.
    As for wells, the earthquake damage was severe there too, and lots of people still don't have water
    131AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:06
    Re: #55
    Isn't this just because Kaneyama Town and Tenei Village in Fukushima rely on well-based water systems?
    30AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:36
    Re: #26
    Fukuoka City is chronically short on water and has to get by with seawater desalination facilities and the like, which is why it's expensive
    47AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:48
    Re: #30
    Fukuoka City also pipes water in from the Chikugo area, so there's been large-scale construction on top of that, plus added dam capacity.
    And it feels like this latest water shortage was only manageable because the dam expansion got finished just in time
    32AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:39
    Blaming population decline while sweeping the city's own policy failures under the rug,
    and then using population decline as the excuse for a price hike —
    that's way too much of a self-inflicted fire-and-firefighter act.
    Are they trying to accelerate the population decline even more? lol
    42AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:45
    Re: #32
    The national government is the one driving everything toward Tokyo, so in a way, isn't every region — not just Akita — a victim here?
    34AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:42
    Re: #1
    The national government should be the one footing the bill for infrastructure
    40AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:44
    Re: #34
    Sure, go ahead — if you're willing to give up local self-government
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:42
    Rule of thumb: never live somewhere with propane gas or expensive water rates
    96AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:36
    Re: #35
    When I lived alone for the first time, my place had propane gas, and I was shocked at how insanely expensive it was
    37AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:43
    So they're raising water rates to build the soccer stadium that residents were all dying for? (sarcasm)
    64AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:09
    Re: #37
    The club covers half, and the city and prefecture each cover a quarter
    43AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:45
    Isn't Akita the prefecture famous for having a high elderly population ratio?
    They had the news about a dedicated J.League stadium, and yeah, this is exactly the 'surely you've got better things to spend on' situation
    123AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:51
    Re: #43
    Yep, it broke 40% for the first time ever.

    According to finalized figures from the 2025 national census released by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications on the 29th, Akita had the highest elderly ratio (share of population age 65 or older) of any prefecture, at 40.0% — up 2.5 points from the previous 2020 census. Kochi followed at 36.9%, then Aomori at 36.3%. Compared to the 2020 census, the elderly ratio rose in every prefecture except Osaka. Thirty-six prefectures now exceed 30%.
    70AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:13
    I saw a news segment where a city official said, 'There are voices saying if you're going to spend that much on the stadium, put it toward water rates instead — but by law, the water utility operates on an independent accounting basis, and equipment repairs and everything else have to be covered by water rate revenue. A fair number of people don't seem to know that.'
    102AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:49
    Re: #70
    Didn't know that
    143AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:28
    Re: #70
    For water, you can just dig a well.
    For sewage, a combined septic/treatment tank (johkasou) works fine.
    That way you don't have to pay those high water and sewer rates
    to Veolia (the French water utility giant).

    The costs involved:
    For water — well-digging fee, pump purchase cost, electricity.
    For a combined septic tank — tank purchase and installation fee,
    blower electricity cost, and regular maintenance costs.

    If you get the qualification yourself, you can even do the maintenance yourself.
    Japan is 70% mountains, with a temperate monsoon climate and plenty of rain.
    Except for that one lone house up on a mountain, groundwater is abundant everywhere.
    Around Lake Inba they're practically drowning in too much water.

    So why build dams and drink bad-quality water from them?
    Well, politics reflects the people, I guess.
    88AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:28
    Can't believe Toshiro Yanagiba actually lives in a place like this (he's an Akita-born actor often associated with the prefecture)
    93AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:33
    Re: #88
    He doesn't actually live in Akita City
    114AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:16
    Rural Japan is just dying off…

    That's the result of the LDP letting the birthrate decline and shrinking the Japanese population
    119AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:41
    Re: #114
    Of course that's what happens once you push gender equality — the outcome was obvious from the start
    130AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:04
    Anyone seriously saying 'move to the countryside' or 'raise kids in rural areas' in this situation is out of their mind.

    Infrastructure renewal timing is all converging at once while the per-person burden keeps rising,
    so rural areas, where wages are already low, are going to be a genuine hellscape.

    Even with population decline, if you don't live in at least a core city with a decent-sized population, your life is screwed
    132AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:07
    Re: #130
    That's exactly the kind of policy they should be pushing.

    Abandon the depopulated areas and have everyone concentrate in core cities
    141AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:24
    Re: #130
    How big does a 'core city' need to be?
    Like, even in Kanagawa or Saitama, is a population of 150,000 already risky?
    182AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:40
    Re: #130
    It's at the level where unless literally every resident leaves, people are going to laugh at you

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    Water and sewer utilities operate as local public enterprises under a principle of independent accounting, meaning the costs of renewing aging infrastructure are, in principle, meant to be covered by rate revenue. Many commenters in the thread linked the rate hike to Akita City’s ongoing dedicated soccer stadium project, but under the system, water utility accounting is kept separate from the general budget and other public works spending — so directly connecting the two is a misunderstanding. That said, it’s understandable that residents’ frustration would concentrate on the rate hike when multiple topics requiring public funds surfaced around the same time. Akita Prefecture recorded the highest elderly population ratio in Japan at 40% in the 2025 national census, and the resulting squeeze on rate revenue from population decline isn’t unique to Akita City — it’s a structural challenge shared by local governments across Japan.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Water & Sewer Rates] Akita City to Raise Rates Sharply — Highest Among Tohoku Prefectural Capitals; Four-Person Households Pay Over 2,000 Yen More Than Sendai.”

  • Photo of School Lunch in Tonami, Toyama Goes Viral — 5ch Users Say ‘Fancier Than My Lunch’

    A photo of a school lunch posted on the official X account of Tonami City, Toyama Prefecture, went viral and triggered a surge of traffic that overwhelmed the city’s website. Sparked by news coverage pointing to the impact of soaring food costs, 5ch lit up with a mix of reactions — some shocked by the sparse number of dishes (“poor kids”), others shrugging it off (“my school lunches were just like this,” “honestly fancier than my own lunch”). Some commenters warned of the danger of judging from a single photo without accounting for how portions vary by grade level and school term, and the thread grew into a broader debate over the quality of school lunches and how lunch fees should be handled.

    Tonami City School Lunch Shocks the Internet — A Wave of Rising Food Costs?… City Website Hit by Traffic Surge – iza! –

    October 2, 2026, 18:02 iza Original

    A photo of a school lunch posted on the official X account of Tonami City, Toyama Prefecture, is making waves.

    Source: iza.ne.jp / Original article here

    8AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:29
    Re: #1
    That's sad.
    Has this country really become unable to feed kids a proper meal?
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:32
    Re: #8
    Seriously, this country is done for.
    Thanks, LDP.
    12AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:30
    School lunches have always been like this.
    At least it's not powdered skim milk (a grim WWII-era staple).
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:33
    Re: #12
    Boiled dent corn, powdered skim milk, aluminum trays… are we talking about right after the war?
    16AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:31
    Fancier than my lunch, honestly.
    45AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:34
    Re: #16
    Same here (50-something salaryman).
    60AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:36
    Re: #45
    An anpan (sweet bean-paste bun) and milk is basically my default.
    82AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:39
    Re: #45
    Scarfing down a convenience-store cup noodle and a discount-sticker rice ball on break in the car.
    That's how it was back when I did sales rounds.
    21AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:32
    Even hospital food had more volume than this.
    39AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:33
    Re: #21
    Even during a growth spurt, portions are smaller because body weight differs by age.
    24AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:32
    School lunches around the world

    56AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:35
    Re: #24
    Would an elementary schooler really eat that much?
    Seems like a bad comparison.
    105AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:44
    Re: #24
    Does French school lunch not have carbs? Or does bread come on the side?
    272AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:06
    Re: #24
    Really makes you feel how much poorer Japan has gotten…
    62AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:37
    School lunch was so much more solid back when I was in elementary and junior high — how did it come to this?
    When my school switched from in-house cooking to a central kitchen it got less tasty, but the content itself wasn't bad.
    64AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:37
    For lower-grade elementary kids this seems about right.
    Might not be enough for upper grades, but overeating isn't good either.
    74AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:38
    Re: #64
    Wish the article had mentioned the grade level.
    Body size varies hugely by grade.
    69AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:38
    How is this skimpier than lunches from the Showa era? lol
    83AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:40
    Re: #69
    Showa-era lunches were actually pretty lavish.
    I don't think this would be enough to fill you up.
    92AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:41
    Making it free really doesn't work out.
    Better to actually charge money and serve a proper meal.
    97AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:42
    Re: #92
    Just adding 3,000 yen a month on top of the current free-lunch budget would change things a lot.
    100AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:43
    Re: #92
    If every school were like this I'd get it, but most schools are normal.
    The reason only some schools end up with lousy lunches like this says it all.
    103AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:43
    Ditch the milk and add more side dishes.
    107AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:44
    Re: #103
    Wait, what?
    Milk goes with bread, doesn't it?
    Plus it's nutritious.
    128AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:46
    Re: #107
    For better or worse, the milk is boosting the protein and calorie count.
    For school lunch, the upside probably outweighs the downside.
    165AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:50
    People judging this from just one day's photo are easy to fool.
    189AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:54
    Re: #165
    Even if it's just one day, the fact that a menu this meager exists at all is a problem.
    193AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:55
    Re: #189
    City: 'Alright, we'll start charging lunch fees then.'
    You guys: 'WAAAAH!'

    City: 'So what do you want us to do?'
    197AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:56
    Re: #189
    Maybe it's a first-grader's portion, or tied to some other event.
    You can't trust a cherry-picked take based on just one photo.
    172AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:51
    I remember seeing even worse photos before, so this doesn't really land as shocking content.
    185AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:53
    Re: #172
    Stuff from the US, France, UK, etc. seemed way worse than this.
    213AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:59
    How much were you guys eating in elementary school? When I was a kid even this much would've been too much and I'd leave food behind.
    221AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:00
    Re: #213
    How old are you?
    224AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:00
    Re: #213
    I see these Japan-bashing-style news stories occasionally so I got curious and googled it — for a first-grader's first term, this looks like a pretty typical portion size.
    279AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:07
    Portion sizes vary a lot by grade and term.

    https://storage.googleapis.com/tossland/1h861HHwaAow/img.png

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    School lunch content and budget allocation vary by municipality depending on whether meals are cooked in-house at each school or at a central kitchen, and in recent years rising food costs have been pressuring lunch programs nationwide to scale back. More municipalities are moving toward free school lunches, but whether portion size and quality can be maintained on a limited budget remains an open question. As pointed out in the thread, the published photo represents just one particular day and grade level, and since appropriate portion sizes vary considerably by grade and school term, it would be premature to judge an entire municipality’s lunch standards from a single photo. Whether lunch fees should go back to being charged directly, or how to secure funding to improve quality while keeping lunches free, is a question this thread leaves unresolved.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (News Express+) thread ‘Tonami City, Toyama’s school lunch sparks discussion.’

  • More Workers Calling Their Boss “-San” Instead of Job Title — 5ch: “Using Titles Sounds Like a Cabaret Club Tout”

    A national survey on the Japanese language released by the Agency for Cultural Affairs on October 2 found that more people are addressing their workplace superiors by attaching “san” (the all-purpose honorific, like Mr./Ms.) to their name rather than using their job title. On 5ch, some asked “What else would you call them — surely not with no honorific at all?”, while others took a favorable view, saying it reflects “a society aiming to downplay hierarchy.” Still others were puzzled, arguing that “using the title shows more respect” or asking “what do you even call a boss who’s been demoted?” With no single correct answer, opinions clashed.

    More People Calling Their Boss “San” Instead of a Title; Only 13.1% Knew the Original Meaning of “Himotoku” — National Language Survey (Yomiuri Shimbun Online) – Yahoo! News

    Published 10/3 (Sat) 5:00 AM JST

    A growing number of subordinates are addressing their workplace superiors by attaching “san” to their surname rather than using their job title, according to the Agency for Cultural Affairs’ fiscal 2025 survey on the Japanese language, released on October 2. (By Keito Ehara)

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:47
    What else are you supposed to call them? Surely not with no honorific at all?
    22AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:53
    Re: #4
    Section Chief So-and-so
    Department Manager So-and-so
    Supervisor So-and-so
    Team Leader So-and-so
    29AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:55
    Re: #4
    Like, say there's a company president named Tanaka — even a brand-new hire would call him "Tanaka-san" instead of "President." Japan is aiming for a society that doesn't make people conscious of hierarchy.
    74AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:03
    Re: #4
    Like in Gundam, where everyone just calls each other by first name.
    8AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:48
    So what are you even supposed to call a boss who got demoted?
    11AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:49
    Re: #8
    "San" works fine for that.
    24AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:53
    Re: #8
    I've seen plenty of cases at big companies — not my own employer — where a change of president got department heads, section chiefs, team leaders, even executives fired or busted down to regular/non-regular staff. So at the big-company subsidiary I moved to, I just use "san" on everyone from day one. (´・ω・`)
    41AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:57
    Re: #8
    That's exactly why "san" is the easy option.

    There weren't many demoted people around me, but if you're at the level where you'd get demoted, you probably can't stick around anyway.
    21AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:52
    Please, just call me "-kun"… (a more casual, junior-sounding honorific)
    142AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:18
    Re: #21
    You should be the one calling yourself "-kun" then.
    144AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:18
    Re: #21
    Can't do that to a guy.
    25AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:53
    I stay unemployed specifically so I never get dragged into pointless debates like this.
    27AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:54
    Re: #25
    Must be exhausting, constantly digging up lame excuses for your own life.
    30AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:55
    Calling someone by their title really does sound like a cabaret club tout hollering for customers.
    120AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:13
    Re: #30
    At a cabaret club it's more like "Oh, Mr. President~!"
    45AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:58
    Overseas reaction: "Japanese has way too many self-referring pronouns!"
    55AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:00
    Re: #45
    Apparently for foreigners it's easier this way — no titles to memorize, just slap "san" on everyone and you're done.
    62AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:01
    Thing is, I can't remember people's names, so this is a real problem for me.
    69AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:02
    Re: #62
    Couldn't you just go with "Mister" or something?
    163AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:23
    Re: #62
    "Department Manager-san" works fine, no?
    73AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:02
    "Section Chief!" "President!" "Department Manager!" — barking out just the title like that is basically the same as calling someone by their bare surname with zero honorific.
    90AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:06
    Re: #73
    So what, are we supposed to say "Section Chief-sama," "President-dono," "Department Manager-sensei"?
    93AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:07
    I use "san" for everyone below section-chief rank. For section chief and above, though, I only ever use the title. It's a pain being a permanent rank-and-filer when both your boss and their title keep changing on you.
    97AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:08
    Re: #93
    Calling everyone by first name only is just standard practice when dealing with American companies. (´・ω・`)
    122AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:13
    For what it's worth, I use titles because it's more respectful. If someone tells me "just call me so-and-so," I'll switch to that. But I've never once seen someone use "san" on every rank from the start. Though I guess it'd fly at some small startup where people work in T-shirts.
    145AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:19
    Re: #122
    Respectful? Reducing someone to a label counts as respect?
    154AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:20
    Re: #145
    It's about keeping things proper — drawing a clean line between work and personal.
    126AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:14
    A board director might suddenly spring "Say the president's name!" on you. Stammer out a "(;-ω-) uhh…" in that moment and you can kiss any promotion goodbye forever.
    129AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:14
    Re: #126
    So is "director" basically code for "enforcer"? Sounds like something Jagi would do. (Wordplay: 取締役/"director" shares kanji with 取り締まり, "crackdown/enforcement"; Jagi is a brutal enforcer-type villain from Fist of the North Star.)
    130AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:15
    Re: #126
    "Director" (torishimariyaku) is just a Companies Act legal term — nobody uses it internally. Internally it'd be "senior managing director" or "department manager" or whatever.
    128AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:14
    At a factory I used to work at, everyone except the plant manager just got called "san."
    136AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:16
    Re: #128
    Well sure, that's what happens when there's no section-chief or supervisor position to begin with.
    138AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:16
    Re: #128
    At small factories out in the countryside, the "president" is sometimes just the boss's wife — gets confusing.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    This survey is part of the Agency for Cultural Affairs’ annual “Public Opinion Survey on the Japanese Language.” The same release also covered other shifts in word usage — for instance, only 13.1% of respondents gave the original meaning of “himotoku” (to explain by tracing something back to its source). What actually divided opinion on the thread wasn’t whether using “san” is right or wrong, but whether there’s a workable alternative. Those sticking with titles cited practical reasons — “it gets awkward when someone’s title changes after a demotion or transfer,” “‘director’ (torishimariyaku) isn’t even a title used internally.” Those fine with “san” cited benefits like “it avoids emphasizing hierarchy” and “it’s easier to remember people’s names.” Easy to overlook: the survey itself only shows an “increasing trend” — it doesn’t claim “san” has become the mainstream norm.

    *This article excerpts and summarizes the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “More People Calling Their Boss “San”… National Language Survey.”

  • Times Car Data Leak: Over 10,000 Sign Up for Class Action — 5ch: ‘Only the Lawyers Win’

    The operator of the car-sharing service “Times Car” suffered unauthorized access to its systems, leaking roughly 6.6 million pieces of personal information. Of these, 1.6 million included identity-verification materials such as driver’s license images. After a lawyer representing the victims opened a registration site for a planned class action on September 30, more than 10,000 people had signed up by October 2. On 5ch, threads mixed criticism of the company’s lax crisis management, a cynical view that only the lawyers stand to profit from the lawsuit, and comments pointing out the limits of using a driver’s license for identity verification.

    Regarding the issue in which the car-sharing service “Times Car” had its systems breached and driver’s license images and other data leaked, it has been learned that more than 10,000 people have registered on a site set up by a lawyer in preparation for a class-action lawsuit.

    The issue stems from unauthorized access to the systems of “Times Car,” a car-sharing service operated by a subsidiary of Park24, which resulted in roughly 6.6 million pieces of personal information leaking outside the company. Of these, 1.6 million included identity-verification materials such as driver’s license images.

    In response, a Tokyo-based lawyer opened a registration site on September 30 in preparation for a class-action lawsuit seeking damages from the operating company. By October 2, more than 10,000 members whose information was leaked had registered, indicating their intent to join.

    Source: news.web.nhk / Original article here

    5AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:28
    At times like this, it's reassuring to have a proper photo studio take your license photo so you don't end up embarrassed.
    112AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:53
    Re: #5
    Oden-Poking Man: "Yep, that's right." (a famous old 2ch/5ch meme figure)
    6AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:28
    And then that registration info will probably leak too…
    144AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:58
    Re: #6
    Phishing via that very site, probably
    154AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:00
    Re: #6
    For all we know, this registration site itself exists just to harvest personal data
    7AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:28
    Lawsuits over stuff like this are pointless now
    It's the age of AI warfare — all your data gets stolen eventually anyway
    71AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:43
    Re: #7
    My info leaked from the job-change site en Japan too
    All I got was an apology email

    It would've been a disaster if my resume got published publicly, but it didn't go that far
    14AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:29
    Anyway, how do you even check whether your info got leaked?
    64AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:42
    Re: #14
    Sounds like CIC or JICC (Japanese credit bureaus) can check for you
    91AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:48
    Re: #14
    You get an email if your info leaked
    I got one saying my license photo had been leaked
    95AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:50
    Re: #14
    Apparently if you're registered (or ever were), you've almost certainly been leaked
    17AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:30
    You're all just being played by the lawyers here

    Only the lawyers come out ahead
    23AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:32
    Re: #17
    I'm going to contact the law firm to check whether your claim is true.
    If it's a lie, be ready to take responsibility.
    80AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:45
    Re: #17
    From what I hear, the lawyer covers the litigation costs and takes 30% on success
    so I'm joining anyway—

    So far I've only gotten one email from Times, saying they're "going to investigate"
    146AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:59
    Re: #17
    You're awfully desperate to avoid getting sued
    54AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:40
    People these days really have gotten dumb
    If you sue like this and Times goes under, you're the one who ends up in trouble
    70AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:43
    Re: #54
    That's exactly the mistaken "there are plenty of replacements for you" attitude — it only bites you once the thing is actually gone
    A lot of people can't tell the difference between things that are fine to lose and things that'll actually hurt once they're gone
    87AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:46
    Re: #54
    Like hell I'd keep using it
    Why would you assume people are still going to use it
    89AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:48
    Re: #54
    I was basically forced into it by my employer, so I won't be inconvenienced at all [if it shuts down]
    88AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:47
    Same goes for online shopping sites like Amazon and Rakuten
    They really should let users delete their purchase history after a certain amount of time has passed
    Stuff like 20-year-old purchase records is just sitting there
    101AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:51
    Re: #88
    That might be true in terms of what's displayed, but since you can't see it on the site anymore, whether it's actually "deleted" is a separate question.
    Having 20-year-old records still accessible is a nice touch of the service, but even if users could delete purchase history from a few days ago, it would still remain on the company's side for their retention period.
    172AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:03
    Re: #88
    I think there was something like a 10-year receipt retention requirement for tax purposes
    That should have actually been a burden for companies
    But as storage got cheap enough to start generating value,
    maybe now, conversely, there needs to be a deletion obligation for the sake of privacy
    120AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:54
    "We don't need My Number cards!
    A driver's license is enough for ID verification!!"

    It'd be hilarious if the people who said that got scammed after someone forged a license using their info lol
    123AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:55
    Re: #120
    My Number cards get forged too, you know
    136AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:57
    Re: #120
    Aren't they just not making proper use of the chip in the license?
    122AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:54
    Companies with sloppy data management need real penalties
    This country just lets everyone get away with "we don't need to spend money on security"
    140AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:57
    Re: #122
    Exactly
    Their crisis management is lax
    Even this time, they should have just shut the system down the moment the intrusion happened
    But they prioritized keeping current customers able to use Times Car over stopping the theft of customer data, so they let the leak keep going
    157AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:01
    Normally in cases like this, the company covers updating JICC/CIC credit records for the affected users
    Guess that's just how Japan does things
    177AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:04
    Re: #157
    Times Car: "Why would we do that, when there's a company that got off with handing out 500-yen QUO cards?"
    181AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:04
    Re: #157
    Maybe this is the moment to reform the law so companies with data leaks are at least required to cover JICC/CIC update fees
    As it stands now, it just ends with a casual 'our bad lol'
    190AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:06
    I got a personal-data-leak email from E-Store too
    Looks like it leaked via Amazon purchases
    8 million victims, so you guys will probably get an email too
    200AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:07
    Re: #190
    Wait, E-Store was Amazon?
    208AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:09
    Re: #190
    Guess this applies if you used Amazon Pay through Shop Serve
    I'd heard E-Store got hit too, but the scale here is insane
    214AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:11
    Re: #190
    Amazon too? This one's just as bad but it's barely getting covered in the news
    202AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:08
    Even if you win this, isn't the payout going to be peanuts?
    204AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:08
    Re: #202
    As long as it brings down the company, mission accomplished, right?
    216AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:11
    Re: #202
    The going rate is about 10,000 yen, so 10,000 yen × 10,000 people = 100 million yen
    The lawyers' fees alone would be sizable
    And the number of plaintiffs will keep growing
    Though Times might show some good faith before it gets that far

    > In Japanese lawsuits over personal data leaks, 10,000 yen has become an important benchmark figure for damages (consolation money) awards.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Times Car is operated by a company within the Park24 group, and a leak of roughly 6.6 million records ranks among the larger personal-data breaches in Japan. The lawyer’s registration drive surpassed 10,000 sign-ups just three days after opening on September 30, reflecting the high level of public interest. In the thread, criticism of the company’s crisis management sits alongside a cynical view that only the lawyers stand to gain from the lawsuit, and the comment citing “10,000 yen as the benchmark for damages” draws on the going rate from past personal-data-leak lawsuits. That said, it’s easy to miss from the thread alone that registering on the site is merely a declaration of intent to join a planned suit — it doesn’t mean a lawsuit has actually been filed or that damages have been determined. Also worth noting: the “E-Store” mentioned in the posts around #190 is not Amazon itself but a separate company that provides payment infrastructure such as Amazon Pay, so the two shouldn’t be confused.

    ※This article is composed of excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Times Car license-image leak: Over 10,000 register for class-action lawsuit.”