Category: Society

  • Secondary Capital Plan: Hiroshima Misses the Population Cut, Governor Yokota to Press Tokyo for Answers

    The government’s proposed criteria for designating a “secondary capital” call for a city with at least 1.2% of the national population and an economy worth at least 2.1% of GDP — and it turns out Hiroshima Prefecture falls short on the population requirement. Governor Yokota says he plans to ask the national government why these particular criteria were set. The secondary capital concept is meant to provide a backup for capital functions in the event of a major disaster, and on 5ch, opinions split between those arguing that low disaster risk should matter more than population size, and those insisting a certain population and economic scale is needed to keep government functions running — with the debate spreading to candidate cities ranging from Osaka, Nagoya, and Sapporo to Okinawa and Nagano.

    The government has published the criteria for designating a “secondary capital” — a city that would take over capital functions in the event of a major disaster — and it has emerged that Hiroshima Prefecture does not meet the population requirement.

    Governor Yokota plans to ask the national government why the criteria were set as they are.

    Under the draft government ordinance, the criteria for designating a “secondary capital” include having a city that accounts for at least 1.2% of the national population and an economy equivalent to at least 2.1% of GDP.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:05
    That 1.2% figure feels kind of nasty, honestly
    it looks deliberately set just high enough to knock Hiroshima out.
    10AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:07
    Re: #3
    Please, no — making a radiation-contaminated area the secondary capital? Hard pass.
    93AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:31
    Re: #10
    If we're going by that logic, Fukushima, Ibaraki, and Chiba would all be out too.
    7AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:06
    Just relocate the capital already.
    At the very least the ministries and the Diet could move.
    Fukushima's Hamadori region would be fine.
    97AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:31
    Re: #7
    Capital relocations based on population often don't work out well — that's been a headache since ancient Japan and every shogunate in history.
    169AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:04
    Re: #7
    Not Fukushima, but before 3/11, Sendai was the leading candidate for a relocated capital.
    If Osaka ends up being chosen as the secondary capital, I bet that once the scars of the Tohoku earthquake have healed, the anti-Osaka crowd who aren't happy about it will push to move the capital to Sendai instead, reducing the secondary capital (Osaka, etc.) to a hollow title.
    226AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:23
    Re: #7
    Forcibly moving the capital to a low-population area would just end in failure, like Indonesia.
    8AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:07
    Honestly, Sapporo or Fukuoka would be fine.
    16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:10
    Re: #8
    Realistically, in terms of population, GDP, and global name recognition, it's got to be Osaka.
    46AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:19
    We don't need any of this — just introduce a regional states system (dōshūsei, a proposal to replace prefectures with larger US/German-style states) already.
    54AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:21
    Re: #46
    Exactly this — and cut the number of "senile lawmakers" (a slur pun on *chihō giin*, "local assembly members") down to a tenth.
    There are 32,000 of these clowns. 32,000 enemies.
    73AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:25
    Re: #46
    That's exactly what Ishin no Kai (the Osaka-based Japan Innovation Party) is aiming for, but if it were that easy there'd be no struggle.
    Even in their home turf of Osaka they couldn't pull it off (the Osaka Metropolis Plan).
    Most citizens probably haven't even thought hard about why it matters.
    48AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:20
    Without a population in the 2-million range, a city just can't hold up as a secondary capital.
    94AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:31
    Re: #48
    Then it's got to be Osaka, Nagoya, or Sapporo.
    Yokohama's too close to Tokyo — in a natural disaster or emergency it would likely go down right along with Tokyo.
    103AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:35
    Re: #94
    In the end this is just a temporary setup until recovery from a Fuji eruption or major earthquake, right?
    Kyushu or Hokkaido are too far away — travel back and forth would be a pain.
    Why not pick several places like Osaka, Nagoya, and Sendai and just rank them by priority?

    Just one feels too risky.
    155AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:57
    Re: #103
    We need somewhere with wide-open land and a food-production base — Sapporo, or Hokkaido in general, can't be left out.
    167AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:04
    Re: #103
    Too close to Tokyo and there's a risk both go down together.

    For things like a disaster-recovery computer center, Hokkaido or Kyushu would be preferable.
    108AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:37
    If anything, a big population is just dead weight.
    South Korea, for instance, recently moved its capital from Seoul to some little rural town with nothing there — though Japanese media never reports on it.
    116AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:42
    Re: #108
    The relocation of the capital to Sejong City isn't set to be complete until 2033.
    123AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:46
    The population requirement makes no sense at all.
    Better to move it to somewhere with a smaller population than an overcrowded area like Osaka.
    131AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:47
    Re: #123
    I get that — if anything, a moderately low-population spot sounds better.
    145AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:54
    Re: #123
    It's not like there's a ton of open land there either.
    139AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:51
    If it's Hiroshima, somewhere like Higashi-Hiroshima would actually be just right.
    It's got an airport nearby, and unlike central Hiroshima it's not saturated with development, so there's plenty of room to build new facilities.
    And best of all, it sits up on a plateau, so tsunami damage simply isn't possible.
    151AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:56
    Re: #139
    That's way too low a population though — the infrastructure's there, but it's actually Hiroshima itself that has open land up around the north side of the station.
    157AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:00
    Re: #151
    Does population even matter for maintaining the national government's administrative functions in the first place?
    It's not like you're building a factory — you don't need that many people.
    161AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:02
    Re: #157
    The secondary capital is meant to eventually become a regional capital — the question is whether Hiroshima's tax revenue could actually maintain the roads and bridges of Shikoku and the San'in region.
    165AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:02
    Re: #157
    The current capital has such a huge population that the bureaucrats probably just don't want to be stuck somewhere rural.
    175AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:07
    Somewhere like Nagano or Yamanashi would be fine, and plenty of people actually agree.
    Also, hardly anyone online pushes for Kyoto, yet the Kyoto Prefectural Assembly basically went out of its way to announce "we're not running" — self-own PR, lol.
    180AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:09
    Re: #175
    Realistically it'd have to be somewhere in the Pacific coastal belt.
    184AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:09
    Re: #175
    The whole point is to place the secondary capital somewhere free from the risk of a Tokyo-area earthquake or a Mt. Fuji eruption — so all of Kanto, plus Yamanashi and Shizuoka, are out of the question from the start.
    186AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:10
    Re: #180
    And a Nankai earthquake would hit the Pacific coastal belt hard too.
    191AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:12
    Re: #186
    Nagano or Yamanashi would be a three-hour trip each way.
    196AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:14
    Re: #191
    If convenience is the priority, northern Kanto would work fine — places like Gunma or the Nasu area wouldn't get hit by a massive quake at the same time as central Tokyo.
    200AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:15
    Re: #196
    I don't really get the point of northern Kanto — it's too rural.
    210AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:18
    Re: #196
    Apparently during the Great Kanto Earthquake, the municipalities surrounding Kanto were completely overwhelmed just dealing with refugees from the disaster zone.
    The population's only grown since then, so wouldn't disaster response need to take priority over serving as a capital-function backup?

    Also, if Mt. Fuji erupts, depending on wind direction the affected area could be pretty severe.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    The government’s proposed criteria for designating a “secondary capital” set numerical thresholds — at least 1.2% of the national population and at least 2.1% of GDP — reflecting a plan to designate, in advance, a backup location to take over if a Nankai Trough or Tokyo-area earthquake knocks out central government functions. Hiroshima Prefecture falls short of the population requirement, and Governor Yokota plans to ask the national government to explain the basis for the criteria themselves. What split the thread was disagreement with the underlying premise that a large population is even necessary — one camp argued that a less-populated area would actually be easier to build new government facilities in and carries lower disaster risk, while the other insisted a certain economic base is needed to support national administrative functions. Candidates ranged from major metro areas like Osaka, Nagoya, and Sapporo to Hiroshima, Higashi-Hiroshima, Okinawa, and Nagano — and readers may easily conflate this with an outright capital relocation, when the distinction (a disaster-time backup rather than a permanent move) wasn’t always made clear in the discussion. Comparisons were drawn to South Korea’s relocation to Sejong City, but details like the completion date were just one poster’s claim in the thread, not verified information.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Soku+) thread “Secondary Capital Plan: Hiroshima Misses the Population Cut, Governor Yokota to Press Tokyo for Answers“.

  • Teen Girl on Bicycle Comes Face to Face with Growling Bear Just 10 Meters Away — Makes It Home Safe

    On the evening of October 3rd in Sunagawa, Hokkaido, a teenage girl riding her bicycle home encountered a bear about 1.5 meters long at a distance of just 10 meters. The bear was growling, but instead of running away, the girl simply rode past it on her bicycle and made it home unharmed. Reactions on a 5ch thread were split over whether her response was actually the right call, the recent surge in bear sightings across Hokkaido, and comparisons to past fatal bear attacks.

    On the evening of October 3rd in Sunagawa, Hokkaido, a teenage girl riding her bicycle home encountered a growling bear. The girl was not injured.

    On the evening of October 3rd in Sunagawa, Hokkaido, a teenage girl riding her bicycle home encountered a growling bear. The girl was not injured.

    The bear was spotted on a municipal road in the Yakiyama area of Sunagawa. At around 6:10 p.m. on the 3rd, the girl, riding her bicycle home, noticed a bear about 1.5 meters long in the grass on the west side of the road.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:52
    Bears don't like picking pointless fights, you know.
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:58
    Re: #2
    Then don't come down the mountain at all — just stay on the summit.
    10AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:57
    If she'd shown any sign of running, it could've gone really badly.
    138AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:42
    Re: #10
    You can't hit 40 km/h on a mamachari (a basic Japanese city bike) anyway — if she'd panicked and tried to run, she probably would've gotten eaten.
    14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:59
    There was a news story about someone driving who stopped because a bear was nearby, and then got attacked and had their car clawed through. If you've got a vehicle, you're probably better off just keeping moving.
    39AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:20
    Re: #14
    Yeah, the hood had holes punched clean through it by its claws. Face one head-on and those claws can rip right across your face — no wonder people end up with gouged-out faces.
    45AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:28
    Re: #39
    Why did they even bother stopping in the first place? I was watching thinking, just drive off without stopping.
    192AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:06
    Re: #39
    Looked it up and found it:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPxHY60I5os
    Terrifying.
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:01
    Everyone talks about 'coexisting with bears,' but dig up a Stone Age site and bear bones turn up all the time. Ancient humans actively hunted bears for safety, for food, and for fur. 'Kill bears the moment you see them' is basically a human tradition.
    105AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:39
    Re: #17
    Bear fur is coarse and stiff, so it's not really great pelt material.
    109AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:44
    Re: #17
    Apparently there are now twice as many brown bears as there were before Japanese settlers arrived. The Ainu actively hunted bears, but then a Socialist Party governor put a stop to the spring bear culls.
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:06
    Guess the bear wasn't hungry. Meanwhile, the teen girl WAS hungry and just wanted to get home fast.
    164AnonymousOct 4, 2026 13:48
    Re: #26
    Meanwhile I'm over here crying from hunger.
    29AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:07
    It's really dangerous when there's a cub around — the mother thinks she's being attacked and charges at you full force.
    43AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:23
    They say the person who was killed before had run into that same bear again and again. This girl should be careful too — the bear might have her marked now.
    79AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:55
    Re: #43
    True. Maybe this encounter was just a 'scouting trip' for the bear.
    58AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:37
    Isn't this the same Sunagawa where police confiscated a hunter's gun? Talk about karma.
    78AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:55
    Re: #58
    (Quoting the famous Gundam line) 'You were a good friend… but your father was wrong.'
    60AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:39
    A growling brown bear just 50 meters from an ordinary house is way too terrifying.
    85AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:09
    Re: #60
    Wasn't the newspaper delivery worker who got killed attacked right in the middle of a residential area, in some bushes?
    80AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:55
    Teen girl: "What… the hell are you?" (echoing a famous JoJo's Bizarre Adventure line)
    92AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:15
    Re: #80
    Exactly.

    I heard it's tourists who see a red fox and go 'aww, cute,' while Hokkaido locals either run or go into fight mode.
    154AnonymousOct 4, 2026 13:13
    Re: #80
    It's 'What?!' then '…you.'

    Get the meme order right.
    83AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:05
    There's no Asiatic black bear in Hokkaido, so it should be fine.
    91AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:13
    Re: #83
    There's something way less 'fine' than a black bear up there lol

    Thought it might be near Asahikawa, but it was Sunagawa. Those things come running right along the riverbanks 🐻
    95AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:26
    As long as you live somewhere like Hokkaido, you just have to accept bears are part of life. Move to Chiba already.
    102AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:34
    Re: #95
    Though around here it's mostly just muntjac deer and wild boar.
    115AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:54
    Re: #14
    Haven't you seen the video of the kei truck (mini-truck) that got attacked while just trying to drive past?
    200AnonymousOct 4, 2026 20:22
    Re: #115
    Saw that in Hyakushou Kizoku (a manga about farm life) lol. It said a kei truck would actually lose in a fight against a brown bear.
    121AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:07
    You don't really hear about kids or young women getting attacked, huh. It's mostly old folks or middle-aged guys.
    141AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:51
    Re: #121
    So if you're young, you can actually outrun one, is that it?
    127AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:14
    Send in the Self-Defense Forces, let them use it as live-fire practice, and wipe out all the bears while they're at it.
    128AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:17
    Re: #127
    Someone's gonna start lecturing about how SDF rifles don't have enough firepower for that, so just don't.
    132AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:24
    Re: #128
    Shut it already!!
    Just wipe them all out from the sky with this!

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    In Hokkaido, sightings and emergences of brown bears have been trending upward in recent years, and encounters near residential areas are no longer unusual. The “newspaper delivery worker attacked in a residential neighborhood” and “police confiscating a hunter’s rifle” mentioned in the thread both reference real incidents previously reported in Hokkaido, illustrating how bear countermeasures there are tangled up with issues of hunting-association manpower, budgets, and permitting.

    Where opinions in the thread diverged was over how to judge simply riding past the bear instead of fleeing. Some saw calmly passing by without running as “level-headed,” while others argued that not getting attacked was “just luck, nothing more.” In reality, bears react differently depending on the individual animal and the situation, so there’s no single correct response to an encounter. Turning and running, standing still, or slowly backing away are all recommended depending on circumstances — it’s easy to mistakenly treat this particular response as the universal right answer, but that’s not actually the case.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Hokkaido] Teen girl riding bicycle home comes face to face with a growling bear just 10 meters away… rides straight past on her bike and makes it home safe.”

  • Average Salary ¥4.87M, But 60% Earn Under ¥5M — Most Common Bracket Is ¥4M-Range for Men, ¥2M-Range for Women

    Based on a report drawing on the National Tax Agency’s survey of private-sector salary data, among Japan’s 51.63 million salaried workers, the largest single group — 7.99 million people — falls in the “¥3 million range,” with most people clustering below the ¥4.87 million average. Roughly 60% of all workers reportedly earn ¥5 million or less a year. On 5ch, posters pointed out the gap between gross pay and take-home pay, the heavy cost of raising kids, and claims that even a ¥10 million income leaves no breathing room — fueling a broader debate over the gap between the statistics and people’s lived experience.

    (Omitted)

    Are most people close to the average salary of ¥4.87 million? The largest group is actually the “¥3 million range,” at 7.99 million people

    First, let’s look at how many of the 51.63 million salaried workers who worked a full year fall into each income bracket.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    11AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:14
    That's take-home pay… right?
    There's no way ¥5 million is gross.
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:21
    Re: #11
    It's annual income, so that's gross pay, not take-home.
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:21
    Re: #11
    I take home ¥5 million and I'm no different from the poor, honestly.
    32AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:21
    Starting salaries have been skyrocketing the past few years — so why is this still happening?
    43AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:23
    Re: #32
    Japan's GDP isn't suddenly booming or anything.
    The gains are just concentrated among employees and execs at a handful of big companies.
    Companies that can't pay, still can't pay.
    50AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:25
    Re: #32
    Only a small slice of salaries are actually going up.
    44AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:24
    We're self-employed, and combined household take-home is only about ¥4 million a year, but since we don't live lavishly it's really not rough at all.
    I can't believe people earning ¥10 million say they're struggling.
    58AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:26
    Re: #44
    As long as your kids aren't going without, I'd say that's fine. But if you want to give your children every experience you can as a parent, it adds up fast.
    80AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:29
    Re: #44
    Our household is exactly ¥10 million a year and we can't exactly live large either — we've got two kids. Stocks are keeping us afloat though.
    127AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:38
    Re: #44
    It depends entirely on whether you have kids and how much you spend on them.
    Also whether you're paying off a mortgage on a house or condo.
    59AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:26
    A ¥10 million salary is only a bit over ¥7 million take-home, yet people blow it on luxuries.
    That extra margin should really be going into assets instead.
    68AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:27
    Re: #59
    With a defined contribution pension or iDeCo (Japan's tax-advantaged individual retirement savings plan), you should be able to shelter around 10% of your income.
    73AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:28
    Re: #59
    In Tokyo, rent for a place big enough for a family of four probably tops ¥200,000 a month.
    On ¥7 million a year, that'd be tight.
    69AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:27
    This only tallies salaried income, right — so does it even include people at listed companies?
    Even so, isn't this too low? Is that why everyone's suits look so cheap?
    78AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:28
    Re: #69
    Even outside listed companies you can hit around ¥7 million.
    If you only counted listed companies, the numbers would get wild for the age range of typical 5ch users.
    85AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:30
    Re: #78
    This seems way too low — is this stat even accurate? There's no way it's really ¥4 million, right?
    98AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:32
    Re: #78
    For listed companies you can just check the Shikiho (Japan's quarterly company handbook) — average salaries are right there.
    Money exists, it's just not evenly spread.
    70AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:27
    Got shown the bank passbook of someone with kids, and the withdrawals were brutal…

    The mortgage alone was about ¥150,000 a month, plus another ¥100,000 for the car loan. On top of that, with rising prices plus school costs and everyday living expenses — I was amazed they could even get by.
     
    And on top of it all, it's one of those "Flat 35" loans (a 35-year fixed-rate mortgage) that keeps going until just before they turn 70, lol.
    Made me wonder what they're even living this razor-thin life for.
    94AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:31
    Re: #70
    What for? For the kids, obviously lol.
    Though every now and then you get someone who says it's "for the kids" while really just projecting their own dreams onto them.

    We're also a full-time dual-income household with a combined income of ¥15 million, and we live modestly enough that we'd save ¥6 million a year if we didn't have kids.
    But because we have two kids, we only end up saving about ¥2 million a year.
    By my math, our two sons — one in middle school, one in elementary school — are costing us ¥4 million.
    And that's only going to keep climbing from here.
    76AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:28
    Since I switched jobs at the end of last year,
    my first summer bonus was only 0.5 months' pay
    Even if this winter's bonus comes in full,
    my income is still going to drop in year one at the new job…
    83AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:29
    Re: #76
    At least you're getting a bonus at all…
    89AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:30
    Re: #76
    Why didn't you make a raise a condition of switching jobs?
    81AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:29
    Re: #58
    Yeah, just sending kids to cram school and other lessons alone is a serious expense.
    87AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:30
    Re: #81
    If you're sending them to cram school and extracurriculars, you'd better brace for around ¥100,000 a month…

    That's with two kids.
    105AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:34
    Re: #87
    It's really that expensive these days…
    Just getting them through cram school, high school, and college is insanely tough.
    109AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:35
    Re: #105
    It costs a crazy amount.
    First off, daycare for ages 0-2 isn't free, so that alone runs ¥60,000-70,000 a month per kid.
    123AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:38
    Re: #105
    Cram school for two kids: ¥38,000/month. Swimming for one: ¥8,000. Basketball club for one: ¥7,000. Abacus (soroban) lessons for one: ¥5,000.
    That's just the cram school fees for my 9th-grader and 6th-grader.
    Summer break needs another ¥70,000 on top for extra cram school.
    Winter break adds about ¥30,000 more.
    108AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:35
    I've got ¥170 million in financial assets, ¥1.5 million in dividends, and ¥4 million in rental income on top of a ¥13 million salary, so I'm pretty comfortable.
    Even if I blow through my whole salary, my money doesn't shrink — it just keeps growing lol
    116AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:36
    Re: #108
    I'm close to that same level (minus the rental income).

    Even with 3 overseas trips a year and hot spring trips twice a month, my money doesn't go down.
    128AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:38
    Re: #108
    Winner right there! Though if you stop working you'll just get fat and turn into a bad-attitude garbage human, so keep working as a hobby lol
    112AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:35
    The most common income bracket is ¥4 million a year, yet city condos average ¥100 million — hard to believe it's the same country.
    113AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:36
    Re: #112
    That's because the average includes rural areas too lol
    134AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:39
    Re: #112
    Try a ¥3 million income against a ¥140 million condo — ¥100 million is just for a used one.
    124AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:38
    My employer is a listed company but the average salary is ¥6.5 million.
    I'm still nowhere near that…
    I can only assume management is dragging the average up.
    135AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:39
    Re: #124
    The male average at companies with 5,000+ employees is ¥7.1 million.
    "Listed company" covers everything from top-tier to bottom-tier, so that sounds about right.
    137AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:40
    Re: #124
    Averages like this don't even include management.
    At listed companies, a ¥3 million bonus for managers is completely normal.

    Otherwise there's no way they could take the family to Hawaii every Obon.
    139AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:40
    Looking at stats like this, the whole "NISA-poor" or "iDeCo-poor" thing (people who pour so much into tax-advantaged investment accounts that they live like paupers) goes beyond foolish at this point.
    I want to say just go get a job, and yeah it's scary, but also go switch jobs and raise your income.
    144AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:42
    Re: #139
    Even if you switch jobs, it's job-based pay now with zero regular raises, so you're stuck.
    Every company with high starting salaries these days works that way too.
    It's hell — work 20 years with no scheduled raises, so your pay stays the same unless you get promoted.
    147AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:43
    Re: #144
    That's pretty much how it is these days, but even under the job-based system you can still reach ¥10 million.
    151AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:44
    Re: #144
    Honestly, there's just so much going on it's scary.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    This statistic comes from the National Tax Agency’s survey of private-sector salary data, which covers the full population of “salaried workers” — not just full-time employees, but also non-regular and part-time workers, as well as staff at unlisted small and midsize companies. That creates a natural gap with the gut feeling people get from looking only at average salaries at large or listed companies, and in the thread this led to people talking past each other, with comments like “¥7 million is normal at a listed company” or “this is way too low,” without acknowledging the difference in what’s actually being measured. It’s also easy to overlook that “annual income” here means gross pay before deductions, not take-home pay, which led to posts talking past each other — comparing lived experience based on post-tax, post-insurance take-home pay against the statistic’s gross figures. Other comments tied the treatment of management pay and bonuses, or the gap in land prices between cities and rural areas, back to the average salary figure. Since this is a nationwide average, it’s worth remembering that ignoring regional differences and variation in employment type can make the gap with lived reality look much bigger than it really is.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Average Salary] Most Common Bracket: ¥4M-Range for Men, ¥2M-Range for Women. People Cluster Below the ¥4.87M Average — About 60% Earn ¥5M or Less.”

  • Izumisano and Sennan City Weigh Merger — 5ch: “Maybe We Need a ‘Reiwa Great Merger’ Too”

    Osaka Prefecture’s Izumisano City and Sennan City have begun weighing a possible merger against a backdrop of population decline, it was learned on the 4th. The two cities reportedly plan to launch a joint study group on the merger as early as this coming January, inviting neighboring municipalities to join, and intend to seek financial support by arguing that a merger would help strengthen Osaka Prefecture’s bid to become a “secondary capital.” On 5ch’s News Flash+ thread, discussion ranged over why Osaka has so many municipalities, the gap in fiscal strength between them, and the lessons of the earlier “Heisei Great Merger.”

    10/4 (Sun) 15:40

    Kyodo News

    It was learned on the 4th, from sources familiar with the matter, that Osaka’s Izumisano City and Sennan City have begun considering a merger. They plan to launch a study group on the merger as early as January next year and invite neighboring municipalities to take part. The move stems from an expectation that population decline will make it hard for either city to survive on its own going forward. The two cities intend to appeal to Osaka Prefecture, which is seeking “secondary capital” designation, by arguing that a merger would help strengthen that secondary-capital function — and to request financial support in return.

    Source: topics.smt.docomo.ne.jp / Original article here

    8AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:37
    Osaka's supposed to be a poor region, yet it's got way too many municipalities.
    11AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:38
    Re: #8
    It's not like Osaka gets the most money from the national government, you know?
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:53
    Re: #8
    Osaka's national tax collection is over 7 trillion yen.
    120AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:36
    Re: #8
    Maybe, but southern Kanto has plenty of municipalities too — especially Tokyo, where outside the 23 wards, the Tama area is packed with tiny municipalities.
    30AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:56
    Come to think of it, isn't it about time for a "Reiwa Great Merger"? There must be more and more municipalities stuck in a dead end from depopulation and aging.
    39AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:01
    Re: #30
    Mergers don't happen unless there's an actual benefit to them. Even in the last couple of mergers, the support funds just ended up wasted on pointless stuff.
    143AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:53
    Re: #30
    Even if the population grows, the land area grows too — the financial struggles don't go away.
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:01
    This is a flaw baked into the town/village/city system itself. Towns and villages should just be forcibly dissolved and merged — turn everything into "cities," and let the prefecture support the remote areas.
    43AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:01
    Re: #40
    Remote areas already get support from the national government, don't they?
    79AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:16
    Re: #40
    There are way too many "parasite towns" standing out these days — I think the national government should get a bit more involved. (´・ω・`)
    42AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:01
    Didn't they say Osaka's finances got better thanks to Ishin (Osaka Ishin no Kai, the local ruling party)? But nobody can even afford to fix the water pipes or the garbage incinerators — everywhere's just going bankrupt.
    47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:05
    Re: #42
    Water utilities run on a user-pays principle, so that's only indirectly related to whether the overall finances improved.
    75AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:14
    Re: #42
    Under the current Izumisano mayor, the city actually got itself out of "fiscal reconstruction" status. Got anything else?
    55AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:08
    Re: #50
    Even during the Heisei Great Merger, wealthy municipalities didn't want to merge, so you ended up with weird non-contiguous "exclave" mergers.
    61AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:09
    Re: #55
    You mean Tobishima Village?
    62AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:09
    Re: #55
    Any municipality with big taxpayers or corporations inside its borders isn't going to merge if it means funneling that money elsewhere.
    103AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:26
    There's already a Higashi-Osaka (East Osaka) City, so why not make a Minami-Osaka (South Osaka) City too?
    109AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:28
    Re: #103
    Then Kita-Osaka (North Osaka) City would be Hokusetsu plus Kita-Kawachi, and…
    110AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:30
    Re: #103
    And as always, Sakai City alone opts out and stays independent.
    141AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:51
    They brought in an airport, and yet the Senshu region's decline is brutal.
    144AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:53
    Re: #141
    Tax revenue that should've gone toward development got monopolized by a handful of municipalities, and then one of them handed out ¥100,000 per resident like it had cash to burn — of course Izumisano would be furious watching that.
    146AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:54
    Re: #141
    Senshu is basically like Minami-Chita (in Aichi Prefecture) — Minami-Chita's declining too, similar story there.
    175AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:18
    I don't really know what old Sennan City was like, but from what I hear about my parents' generation, it sounds like it had a decent amount of life to it — even though the population back then was far smaller. These days it feels like everything's concentrated around a single AEON mall. Maybe back then it felt livelier because things were spread out evenly across lots of small shops instead.
    181AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:23
    Re: #175
    The textile industry used to be big there, but it probably can't survive in Japan anymore. A company I used to deal with sold off its factory machinery to Southeast Asia and now gets by on real estate rental instead.
    188AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:27
    Re: #175
    Since around the start of the 21st century, the supermarket in front of the JR limited-express stop closed down, sat as a ruin for a while, then just sat as an empty lot — that's how far gone the place is. If you drive the national highway from Osaka toward Wakayama, the shops basically disappear once you pass the southern part of Izumisano. Honestly, Iwade City, over the mountain pass, is more convenient than Sennan.
    190AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:29
    Osaka's trying way too hard here. Do they really admire Tokyo that much?
    194AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:31
    Re: #190
    Nah, that's not it. They just want subsidies. Not that every single person from Osaka has that kind of petty mindset, though.
    191AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:30
    All this "secondary capital" talk is really just code for "our finances can't keep up anymore."
    197AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:33
    Re: #191
    Fiscal simulation for Osaka City and Osaka Prefecture

    https://gzo.ai/i/RGDboHJ.png

    https://gzo.ai/i/5sWITYI.jpg

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Osaka Prefecture has been pressing the national government for “secondary capital” status, positioning itself as a counterweight to Tokyo’s overconcentration, and this merger talk is riding that same wave. On municipal mergers generally, the number of municipalities fell sharply during the 2000s “Heisei Great Merger,” but in many cases how the support funds were spent drew criticism — and in this thread too, posters pointed out that “even in the last merger, the support money just got wasted on pointless stuff.” It’s also worth noting, since it’s an easy point of confusion, that Osaka City’s 24 administrative wards and Tokyo’s 23 special wards actually differ in institutional authority — such as whether they have their own ward mayor or assembly — so population and area comparisons alone don’t capture the real picture. This exchange also shows how differences in fiscal strength between municipalities sit at the heart of the merger debate.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “[Osaka] Two Osaka Cities Considering Merger, Eyeing Secondary-Capital Status, Requesting Financial Support.”

  • Mie Prefecture’s Population Drops by 77,000 as Foreign Residents Hit Record High — 5ch: ‘Immigrant Rate Is 4%? Not as High as I Thought’

    According to finalized figures from the 2025 national census released by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications, Mie Prefecture’s total population stood at 1,693,200, down 4.4%—about 77,000 people—from the previous 2020 census. This marks the fourth consecutive decline since the population peaked in 2005, with only two municipalities, Asahi and Kawagoe, seeing population growth. Meanwhile, the number of foreign residents hit a record high, with Vietnamese nationals standing out among the various nationalities. On 5ch, threads mixed voices linking the rise in foreign residents to debates over immigration policy with others pointing out that Mie’s actual foreign resident ratio is only around 4%—”not as high as I expected”—and the discussion spread to population trends and local topics in other prefectures.

    Finalized figures from last year’s national census have been released, showing that Mie Prefecture’s population declined compared to the previous census six years earlier, while the number of foreign residents living in the prefecture reached a record high.

    According to the finalized census figures released by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications, Mie Prefecture’s total population as of October 1 last year was approximately 1,693,200, down 4.4%—about 77,000 people—from the 2020 census, marking the fourth consecutive decline since the population peaked in the 2005 census.

    By municipality, only Asahi and Kawagoe towns saw population increases compared to the previous census, while the remaining 27 municipalities in the prefecture saw declines.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    8AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:37
    Northern Mie seriously has a lot of foreigners.
    Gifu's got a lot too, though.
    47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:54
    Re: #8
    Sasagawa housing complex has had Brazilian shops since way back.
    But it's kind of unlucky—some people get to live in the Tokyo area after coming all the way to Japan, while others end up stuck in a place like Mie.
    Well, even within Mie, it's probably mid-to-upper tier by national standards.
    You can get to both Nagoya and Osaka from there.
    Plus there are a ton of AEON Malls even by rural standards—it's basically 'AEON Prefecture.'
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:38
    The foreign population's only going up from here, never down.
    Japanese people are bound to end up jobless and out on the streets, squeezed out by foreigners and AI.
    179AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:48
    Re: #13
    And then they'll definitely start pushing 'give voting rights to foreigners who've contributed!'
    Then foreign lawmakers increase and it's game over starting from local government.
    33AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:47
    There are actually prefectures with populations under a million.
    Mie's got 1.6 million, but once you factor in the immigrant rate, your image of the place might change.
    166AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:42
    Re: #33
    Immigrant rate's 4%.
    Not as high as I thought.
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:47
    It's the same story for Japan as a whole, really.

    Japan's population falls below 120 million for the first time in 42 years… down 910,000 to 119.73 million, while foreign residents rose by 350,000
    https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/politics/20260729-GYT1T00324/

    Japan's population falls below 120 million for the first time in 42 years… down 910,000 to 119.73 million, while foreign residents rose by 350,000 ★2 [Gure★]
    https://asahi.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1785323985/
    37AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:50
    Re: #34
    Well, the population's basically guaranteed to plummet from here on because of the low birthrate and aging society.
    By 2070 it's projected to be 87 million, and it'll likely keep falling after that.
    The land itself is just going to go to ruin.
    77AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:13
    It's not even unusual for rural factories to be 90% foreign workers these days.
    Everyone just mindlessly funnels people into Tokyo, so of course the young ones leave.
    Yeah, that's exactly what you'd expect to happen.
    78AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:13
    This gets bleak when you break it down by age.
    I asked an AI for estimated figures:
    ・Foreign resident ratio among people in their 70s: 0.5%
    ・Foreign resident ratio among people in their 20s: 19%
    At this rate the replacement will happen fast, and Japanese people will become the minority.
    80AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:14
    Re: #78
    A Vietnamese mayor's gonna show up eventually at this rate.
    86AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:17
    Everywhere except Tokyo and Osaka is losing population.

    ・Kanagawa Prefecture's population falls for 4th straight year; 4 cities including Ebina see growth (Nikkei)
    ・Chiba Prefecture's estimated population falls for 4th straight year; foreign residents increase (Nikkei)
    ・Saitama Prefecture's population falls for 4th straight year; Warabi tops the growth rate (Nikkei)
    ・Ibaraki Prefecture's total population drops below 2.8 million, 23rd straight year of decline (Nikkei)
    ・Gunma Prefecture's population falls by 10,000 in one year, dropping below 1.87 million as of March 2026 (Jomo Shimbun)
    ・Tochigi Prefecture's population at 1,864,220, falling for 21 straight months (Shimotsuke Shimbun Digital)

    ・Aichi Prefecture's population drops below 7.5 million, 5th straight year of decline; foreign residents hit a record high of over 320,000 (Yomiuri Shimbun, 2025/08/07)
    ・Nagoya metro area sees net outflow of 9,561 people, 13th consecutive year of net outflow (Resident Registry Population Migration Report)
    92AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:19
    Re: #86
    Wait, Osaka Prefecture's population is growing?
    I thought it was just Osaka City.
    106AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:23
    Re: #92
    First time in 6 years, lol, pretty pathetic.

    ◆Osaka Prefecture's population grows for first time in 6 years; net inflow of foreigners up by 10,000
    (Nikkei, July 29, 2026)

    According to the population dynamics survey based on the Basic Resident Register (as of January 1, 2026) released by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications on the 29th,
    Osaka Prefecture's total population, including foreign residents, grew for the first time in 6 years.

    This was largely driven by a roughly 10,000-person increase in the net inflow of foreign residents (social increase) compared to the previous year.
    Meanwhile, the natural population decrease (deaths exceeding births) was the largest in the country, reinforcing a structure where social increase is propping up the numbers.
    Osaka Prefecture's total population rose by 3,365 from the previous year to 8,775,326—its first increase since 2020.
    88AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:19
    🤷🏻‍♂🤷🏻Prefecture population decline ranking (2020-2025)

    1. Hokkaido (231,572)
    2. Hyogo (158,184)
    3. Shizuoka (141,277)
    4. Niigata (130,206)
    5. Fukushima (115,487)
    6. Hiroshima (105,054)
    7. Aomori (92,618)
    8. Aichi (88,612)
    9. Iwate (83,721)
    10. Gifu (81,609)
    99AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:22
    Re: #88
    Would like to see the percentages too.
    90AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:19
    Wait, you're coming to Tokyo?
    You're from the Kinki region speaking Kansai dialect (written here as '韓西弁', apparently a typo for 関西弁), so go to Kyoto or Osaka instead.
    Don't come to Tokyo.
    Go work at the Kioxia factory.
    121AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:27
    Re: #90
    The Reiwa-era Kansai person comes to Tokyo, grabs all the good stuff, and once they've gotten what they came for, heads back to Kansai to live the easy life.
    They don't stay in Tokyo forever.

    Migrants to Tokyo by prefecture of origin
    (income property survey, per 1,000 residents)
    1st. Kanagawa (9.62)
    2nd. Saitama (9.02)
    3rd. Chiba (8.75)
    4th. Yamanashi (6.25)
    5th. Ibaraki (4.51)
    6th. Miyagi (4.21)
    7th. Tochigi (4.03)
    8th. Gunma (3.81)
    9th. Nagano (3.67)
    10th. Okinawa (3.57)
    …
    16th. Osaka (3.03)🤷🏻
    102AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:23
    Not Mie, but yesterday there was a group at a convenience store parking lot loudly speaking some language I couldn't even identify, and I thought, 'Japan's in trouble.'
    107AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:24
    Re: #102
    Northern Mie is like that all the time these days.
    114AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:26
    Re: #102
    And the staff being foreign too—that's the thing.
    That's finally shown up in my own neighborhood too.
    131AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:30
    To people from Kanto, Mie sounds like it speaks Kansai dialect, but it's officially classified as part of the Tokai region—kind of a mystery.
    138AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:32
    Re: #131
    The Mie dialect belongs to the Kansai-dialect family.
    Gifu dialect is also close to Kansai.
    It's just Nagoya, stuck in between, that's weirdly its own thing.
    Though even within Aichi there are several different dialects.
    154AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:38
    Re: #131
    Mie is part of the Kinki region, you know.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Mie Prefecture’s population figures are based on the finalized national census results, which are more accurate than preliminary figures. The rise in foreign residents seen here isn’t unique to Mie—it overlaps with a nationwide trend of the Japanese population shrinking while the foreign population grows. Some thread comments expressed alarm about being ‘taken over,’ while others pointed out that the actual foreign resident ratio is only around 4%, making the gap between perception and reality a key point of debate. On what’s driving the population decline, some comments argued that the structural problem of young people leaving for urban areas is a bigger factor than changes in the foreign population. The article’s figure of roughly 14,000 Vietnamese nationals stands out, but the article doesn’t clarify what share that represents of the prefecture’s total foreign population or how it compares to other nationalities. Some comments also linked specific nationalities to crime, but no supporting statistics were presented, so it’s worth noting these claims are impressionistic rather than substantiated.

    *This article was compiled by excerpting and summarizing the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “Mie Prefecture’s Population Drops by About 77,000; Foreign Residents Up 31.4% to Record High, Vietnamese Nationals Number About 14,000.”

  • Is Sex a Marital Duty in Marriage? What If You Say ‘I Don’t Want To’? A Legal Scholar Weighs In

    Japan’s Civil Code spells out a married couple’s duties to live together, cooperate, and support one another, but it says nothing about sex. Even so, past court rulings have treated a spouse’s lack of sex as “grounds that make it difficult to continue the marriage,” justifying divorce — meaning legal scholars and judges alike have long operated on the premise that “married couples are supposed to have sex,” according to Risa Oshima, a professor at Aoyama Gakuin University, whose remarks have sparked debate. On 5ch, reactions ranged widely: some argued that if sex is a “duty,” then affairs or sex work should be tolerated in exchange; others pointed out that continued refusal can become grounds for divorce; still others questioned the very necessity of the institution of marriage.

    People often say they can’t refuse sex with their spouse because “it’s a marital duty.” But is there actually a legal duty for married couples to have sex? We asked Professor Risa Oshima of Aoyama Gakuin University, an expert in family law.

    The Civil Code states that married couples have duties to live together, cooperate, and support one another, but there’s no provision about sex. That said, this hasn’t been enough to conclude there’s no duty to have sex — because, although rare, there have been court rulings granting divorce on the grounds that a lack of sex with one’s spouse amounts to “grounds that make it difficult to continue the marriage.”

    The Civil Code is written in deliberately abstract terms so judges can apply it flexibly. In practice, rulings have been shaped by the prevailing social norms surrounding marriage at the time. Up to now, both legal scholars and judges have operated on the assumption that “married couples are supposed to have sex,” and most past court rulings have been grounded in that assumption.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

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    21AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:25
    Re: #6
    Way off base,
    no taste at all.
    7AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:20
    Re: #1
    Fine by me — as long as cheating's allowed too.
    211AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:33
    Re: #7
    Exactly this.
    Regardless of gender, you'd need to be allowed to use sex work or sleep with someone else.
    47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:32
    If she doesn't want to, well, that's just how it is.
    The wife holds the reins here.
    50AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:33
    Re: #47
    The "duty" thing goes both ways lol
    Plenty of husbands are done with their wives too lolol
    55AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:36
    Re: #50
    Then just split the assets fairly, pay child support until they turn 18
    (or until they finish university), throw in the pension split,
    and get divorced already.

    It's the men who aren't ready to commit to that.
    69AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:42
    Re: #55
    Are you saying it's the men who don't want the divorce, huh lol
    That varies case by case — men don't have to shoulder the entire child support bill either lolol
    61AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:40
    Wasn't it the case that if the husband doesn't want to, that's not grounds for divorce?
    I remember seeing that on TV.
    70AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:42
    Re: #61
    A husband not wanting to is grounds for divorce.
    Forcing a wife who doesn't want to is also grounds for divorce.
    62AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:40
    If she says she doesn't want to, just get a young girlfriend on the side.
    No problem with that, right?
    74AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:43
    Re: #62
    You'll get ambushed by one of those affair-exposé YouTubers.
    They'll hit you with 4.5 million yen in damages, times two people.

    That's why once you're in a sexless marriage ("resu"), you just have to get divorced.
    66AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:41
    This looks like an attempt to dismantle the logic of "Why must marriage be between a man and a woman?" → "Because it's a system for having children."
    102AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:53
    Re: #66
    There's same-sex marriage these days too, you know.
    85AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:48
    If you end up sexless, you're better off telling her parents, "We're sexless, so we're getting divorced!"

    Cut a sexless wife loose before you get caught in the affair-damages trap.
    87AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:48
    Re: #85
    That's so Heisei-era, takes me back. (Heisei: Japan's 1989–2019 era)
    100AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:53
    I've heard that in America, if refusal continues, a divorce gets granted.
    104AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:53
    Re: #100
    That's basically how it works in Japan too.
    119AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:59
    If the wife's side is fine with allowing sex work or affairs,
    then sure, why not.
    121AnonymousOct 4, 2026 14:59
    Re: #119
    An affair gets legally messy, so sex work's the way to go.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The Civil Code’s duties for married couples — to live together, cooperate, and support one another — contain no provision on sex. In the end, courts have simply applied the abstract clause “grounds that make it difficult to continue the marriage,” interpreted according to the prevailing social norms of each era. In other words, the presence or absence of sex alone doesn’t automatically grant a divorce; the full circumstances of the relationship are weighed. In the thread, two camps clashed — those arguing that if sex is a “duty” then affairs or sex work should be permitted, and those saying “if you don’t like it, just get divorced” — but both sides treat the duty as a kind of transactional exchange, which misses the article’s actual point about shifting social norms. It’s also a common misunderstanding that only the refusing spouse is automatically at fault; the outcome depends on the specific circumstances.

    ※This article was compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “Is Sex a Marital Duty in Marriage? What If You Say ‘I Don’t Want To’? A Legal Scholar Weighs In.”

  • Danjiri Float Overturns in Sakai, Injuring 7 — 5ch: ‘The Thrill Is Racing the Edge of Tipping Over’

    On the night of October 3, 2026, a danjiri float being pulled through the streets of Sakai, Osaka Prefecture, overturned, injuring seven people who were taken to hospital. They are believed to be conscious. Danjiri festivals are held across a wide area stretching from Kishiwada and southern Osaka Prefecture to eastern Hyogo, Wakayama, and Nara, and overturns and falls have repeatedly occurred at festivals across the region. On 5ch, opinions split between those defending the practice — arguing that the thrill of charging around corners at speed is the whole point of the festival — and those criticizing it, saying that calling the event ‘well-controlled’ doesn’t match reality when safety management clearly isn’t working.

    Published 10/3 (Sat) 20:56

    Yomiuri TV

    On the night of the 3rd, a danjiri float being pulled through Sakai, Osaka Prefecture overturned, and seven people were injured and taken to hospital.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 4, 2026 01:34
    What kind of sacred ritual has guys with tattoos scattered all through it?
    116AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:56
    Re: #3
    No doubt the yakuza types with tattoos are mostly bad news, but
    sometimes you run into one who's a way better guy than plenty of people without tattoos.
    Still makes you want to scold them with 'why'd you go and get a tattoo, man.'

    Separate issue, but in Osaka you've got Osaka City employees with tattoos too, right?
    That's the real problem.
    7AnonymousOct 4, 2026 01:37
    All over Osaka right now the danjiri crews (original says "男尻", likely a garbled stand-in for the men's crews) are out doing trial runs, and it's noisy and in the way.
    Kishiwada's a fishing town, so they wrapped up on Respect-for-the-Aged Day in September, but the farming villages have their main event next week in October, after the harvest.
    8AnonymousOct 4, 2026 01:39
    Everyone already knows this is the kind of event where floats tip over or people fall off.
    14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 01:44
    This event is pointless AND dangerous, so just stop doing it.
    Nobody's even asking for it.
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 01:47
    Re: #14
    'Compliance'?
    That's a foreign concept around here.
    157AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:43
    Re: #14
    Sure, as long as you personally cover the economic impact of the hundreds of thousands of tourists it brings in — out of your own pocket.
    24AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:02
    Having your danjiri tip over is the ultimate disgrace, right?
    Guess it's seppuku time (joking reference to ritual suicide for shame).
    31AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:14
    Re: #24
    The team leader owes everyone an apology.
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:06
    I'm a Kishiwada resident but I couldn't care less about danjiri — I probably only see one for about 5 seconds a year.
    69AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:53
    Re: #26
    I always wonder why people like this don't just leave Kishiwada.
    Festival season must be the worst for you.
    27AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:08
    They should just cancel that pointless festival already.
    It's ridiculous.
    184AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:19
    Re: #27
    The people doing it believe it means something, so
    outsiders sticking their nose in is none of their business.
    42AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:33
    I wonder how many of the participants are actually there because they want to be.
    70AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:55
    Re: #42
    They'll say stuff like 'ehh, it's just old neighborhood ties, what can you do~'
    but once the festival actually kicks off, a lot of them get totally fired up.
    60AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:09
    I looked it up, is this it?
    Taking a corner at that speed, of course it's going to tip over…
    https://youtu.be/uKnDY3FS3uM
    67AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:28
    Re: #60
    Wow, that's more intense than I expected.
    63AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:17
    Eh, I don't see the problem.
    77AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:17
    Whatever happens, it's on them —
    joining in, building a house nearby, coming to watch, all of it.
    98AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:56
    'This is just the standard mentality of rural Japanese people, after all.'
    101AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:07
    Re: #98
    More like, 'the same mentality as Japan's bubble-era generation.'
    102AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:09
    Up through the early Heisei era, a lot of the big regional festivals were genuinely dangerous, weren't they?
    Though with depopulation, that's mostly died out now.
    175AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:57
    Re: #102
    Two people died this year at the Saidaiji Eyo festival in Okayama.
    The head priest at Kokusekiji in Iwate was smart enough to bury the Somin-sai festival for good.
    122AnonymousOct 4, 2026 06:16
    People from Hokusetsu will lie and tell you 'danjiri are only a southern-Osaka thing,' but actually the whole stretch from eastern Hyogo to Misaki-cho is danjiri territory.
    130AnonymousOct 4, 2026 06:44
    Re: #122
    Wakayama and Nara have them too.
    145AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:07
    I'm a local — if you just pull it slowly like you're supposed to, accidents don't happen.
    150AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:25
    Re: #145
    Where's the thrill in that?
    Racing right up to the edge of tipping over —
    that's what danjiri is all about.
    193AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:53
    Naked festivals and this one — I always think, is this really something worth dying for?

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Kishiwada is the best-known venue for danjiri festivals, but the practice extends from eastern Hyogo Prefecture through southern Osaka Prefecture to Wakayama and Nara, and the float-pulling in Sakai falls within that same cultural sphere. The festivals’ signature spectacle, “yarimawashi” — swinging a multi-ton float sharply around a corner at speed — is thrilling precisely because it’s dangerous, and injuries and deaths from overturns and falls have repeatedly occurred at heavy-float festivals around the country, including the Kishiwada Danjiri Festival, the Saidaiji Eyo festival in Okayama, and the Somin-sai festival at Kokusekiji in Iwate. In the thread, opinions clashed between those who say charging through corners at full speed without slowing down is the whole point of the festival, and those who argue that with accidents happening almost every year, you can’t really call safety management “thorough.” In reality, safety measures vary by district and organization and can’t be generalized. As for the cause and the on-the-ground operating setup behind this particular accident in Sakai, neither had been made clear as of this report.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “[Osaka] Danjiri Overturns, Riders May Have Fallen Off — 7 Injured, All Believed Conscious — Sakai.”

  • 2026 Prefecture Appeal Rankings Drop — 5ch: “This Is Just a Tourism Ranking”

    The Brand Research Institute’s annual “Prefectural Appeal Rankings” for 2026 have been released, sparking a wave of reactions in a thread on 5ch’s News Express+ board. The discussion kicked off with someone pointing out that the ranking measures appeal as a tourist destination, not whether people actually want to live there. Some pushed back, noting that Hokkaido and Okinawa draw plenty of transplants in addition to tourists, while residents and natives of lower-ranked prefectures like Ibaraki, Saga, and Chiba jumped in to defend their hometowns’ charms. The thread also saw disagreements over comparisons between neighboring prefectures, such as Kanagawa vs. Saitama and Osaka vs. Kyoto.

    10/3 (Sat) 21:54

    Diamond Online

    Every year, the hugely popular “Prefectural Appeal Rankings” article draws major attention. Let’s take a look at the latest 2026 version. Which appealing prefectures climbed the rankings this year? (Brand Research Institute, freelance writer Harumi Nishijima, Diamond Life editorial team)

    Source: topics.smt.docomo.ne.jp / Read the original article here

    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:27
    This is just a tourism ranking, right?
    Would you actually move to Hokkaido, Kyoto, or Okinawa?
    Nah, didn't think so.
    45AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:58
    Re: #4
    A guy who got transferred to Sapporo hated the idea before he went, but once he got there he said he wants to live there forever lol
    128AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:33
    Re: #4
    Hokkaido and Okinawa are full of people who moved there, you know?
    When I was stationed in Okinawa for work, apparently half the kids in my local friend's child's elementary school class were kids of mainlanders who'd relocated there or transferred for work.
    5AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:28
    If you're gonna land around 40th anyway, being dead last actually boosts your name recognition more.
    66AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:06
    Re: #5
    My home Ibaraki has the sea, mountains, lakes, rivers, waterfalls, parks, and plenty of local specialties.
    Our name recognition went up too, and we finally escaped our perpetual last-place spot.
    71AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:07
    Re: #66
    It's a prefecture that only benefits from being near Tokyo anyway.
    Stick Ibaraki between Tottori and Shimane and nobody would even notice.
    78AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:08
    Re: #66
    Hitachinaka Seaside Park is amazing.
    Though it's way too crowded during nemophila (baby blue eyes flower) season.
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:47
    Is it really ranked below places with nothing going on, like Kagawa or Tottori?
    32AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:49
    Re: #26
    Kagawa isn't just tourist spots — it has all the functions of a regional hub city too.
    57AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:02
    Re: #26
    It has so little presence that people don't have any impression of it at all — good or bad.
    31AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:49
    FY2025 total annual overnight guests (people)


    Kanto 193,906,230
    Kansai 120,737,210
    Kyushu 62,575,070
    Tokai 62,493,310
    Hokkaido 45,434,840
    Koshinetsu 38,732,940
    Tohoku 38,453,050
    Okinawa 32,288,990
    Chugoku 26,988,290
    Hokuriku 17,269,550
    Shikoku 14,597,440
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:51
    Kanagawa and Saitama aren't actually that different, though.
    The gap in their rankings is way too extreme.
    44AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:55
    Re: #35
    They're totally different lol
    As a tourist destination, Kanagawa has Kamakura, Hakone, Shonan, Yokohama's Minato Mirai, Chinatown, and Motomachi, and Route 1 runs through it — it's part of the center of Japan.

    Saitama is where the edge of Japan's center starts to fall off.
    72AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:07
    Re: #44
    Also, if we're talking about actually living there, it's overwhelmingly Saitama.
    Yokohama is nothing but hills, way too densely packed, taxes are high, and the roads and trains are jam-packed.
    Kanagawa overall is cramped with no breathing room, and the cost-performance is terrible.
    86AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:10
    Re: #72
    Saitama really deserves to be called a "forbidden realm" (makyo — an online joke/insult often aimed at Saitama).
    88AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:13
    Re: #72
    I agree that Kanagawa has no breathing room and bad cost-performance.
    39AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:52
    True, like if you go to Osaka for fun, you might think about swinging by Kyoto or Kobe too.
    But if you go to Tokyo, you don't think about also stopping by Saitama or Ibaraki.
    That's probably what it comes down to.
    53AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:01
    Re: #39
    No wonder the Hanshin Tigers win pennants lol (joke about Kansai regional pride/solidarity)
    87AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:12
    Re: #39
    That's just because those places are clinging to Tokyo.
    114AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:26
    Re: #39
    That just means Osaka itself has no appeal 🤣

    Conversely, if you go to Kyoto, you wouldn't think of extending the trip to Osaka.
    56AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:02
    Re: #44
    Kamakura lol, Hakone lol, Shonan lol
    They're all kind of small-scale, with this cheap, miniature feel to them.
    Aren't they basically the same as Kawagoe, Nagatoro, and Chichibu? The only difference is whether it's the sea or the mountains.
    65AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:05
    Re: #56
    O-okay…
    "Naga…" how do you even read that kanji?
    67AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:06
    Re: #56
    You're probably a Saitama resident, but I think you should work on getting a bit more of an objective viewpoint.
    97AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:17
    Tohoku appeal rankings, finalized version

    Miyagi (11th)
    Aomori (18th)
    Niigata (22nd)
    Akita (23rd)
    Fukushima (28th)
    Iwate (31st)
    Yamagata (33rd)

    Toooohokuuuuuu ><b (a jokey, dialect-flavored way of shouting "Tohoku")

    I used to think my hometown and everyone in it were absolute garbage,
    but it did so much better than expected that I'm tearing up lol
    103AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:22
    Re: #97
    Those places make me want to visit, but somewhere like Ibaraki, I feel like I'd never set foot in it my whole life.
    105AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:22
    Re: #97
    So Niigata really is part of Tohoku after all, huh.
    133AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:35
    Re: #97
    Those places have just the right amount of rural charm, which makes them appealing as travel destinations.
    124AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:31
    What's so bad about Saga, exactly?
    They grow rice and vegetables, there's seafood from the Ariake Sea, Saga beef, and even a soccer club (J2, but still).
    If you want to go out, Hakata is only 30 minutes away, there's an outlet mall, and natural disasters are rare.
    Land and rent both seem cheap — I've been thinking about retiring to Saga and getting into pottery appreciation.
    125AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:32
    Re: #124
    Won't opinions be split over Egashira? (Egashira 2:50, a comedian famous for being from Saga)
    138AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:38
    Re: #124
    Same as Gifu — the economy isn't exactly huge, so poor access to major metro areas is fatal.
    Being far from everywhere in every direction is a dealbreaker.
    Living somewhere doesn't mean you never go anywhere else.
    147AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:42
    What's Tochigi's appeal, anyway?
    156AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:44
    Re: #147
    Did you even read my post?
    I specifically wrote about the Tohoku Expressway and the Tohoku Shinkansen.
    It's the only one in North Kanto + Saitama ranked in the 30s — gotta thank Tohoku for that.
    159AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:46
    Re: #147
    U-jiro Kouji has a high likability rating, don't they (a comedy duo famous for their thick Tochigi-dialect act)
    169AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:55
    Re: #1
    Honestly, if we rank Kanto tourist spots without any favoritism, it's:

    ↓① Tokyo (goes without saying, #1 in Japan)
    ↓② Kanagawa (Hakone, Kamakura, Chinatown)
    ↓③ Gunma (Japan's #1 hot spring cluster)
    ↓④ Tochigi (Toshogu Shrine, Nikko)
    ↓⑤ Saitama (Chichibu)
    ↓⑥ Ibaraki (the joke entry)
    The true last place: ⑦ Chiba (a totally half-hearted, middleman prefecture)

    That's how it is.
    207AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:17
    Re: #169
    Worshipping Tokyo while treating Chiba as the enemy — ah-ha, I bet you're from Saitama.
    219AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:20
    It really depends on what you count as "appeal."
    Speaking as a country bumpkin myself,

    there's no way Saitama, Ibaraki, or Gunma should be ranked this low.
    I'm genuinely jealous of places where you can get to Tokyo right from your hometown.

    On the other hand, I honestly have no idea what's so great about Okinawa.

    Hokkaido is the best as a tourist destination though.
    226AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:25
    Re: #219

    I actually wanted to work at a music school in Okinawa, but…
    unfortunately, it required a driver's license. Shame.
    230AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:27
    Re: #219
    Okinawa has the mildest swings between hot and cold.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The Prefectural Appeal Rankings is a survey by the Brand Research Institute asking ordinary consumers about their image of each prefecture — it measures “recognition and favorability,” which is separate from actual resident numbers or settlement rates. This mismatch is the backdrop behind the pushback from Ibaraki and Saga residents and natives in the thread. Prefectures with solid everyday infrastructure but few tourist attractions tend to score low, while prefectures with famous tourist spots tend to rank high — a structural quirk that has long been pointed out about this ranking. Also, as one comment about “escaping perpetual last place” shows, the rankings shift year to year and are easily swayed by image strategy and media exposure. What readers can easily get wrong is assuming this ranking directly reflects “livability” or “economic strength” — and most of the pushback in the thread stems from that very misunderstanding.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Survey] 2026 Prefecture Appeal Rankings — So Who’s Unfortunately in Last Place This Time…?.”

  • Mounjaro Weight-Loss Warning: Japan Obesity Society Says Don’t Use the Diabetes Drug to Crash Diet

    The Japan Society for the Study of Obesity announced on October 3 that the diabetes drug “Mounjaro” should not be used for rapid weight loss or extreme dietary restriction. The statement warns against the drug’s growing use for dieting purposes, citing risks of health problems such as vomiting and abdominal pain, and will be published on the society’s website on the 5th. In response to this report, reactions on 5ch centered on explanations of how Mounjaro actually works — that it isn’t insulin itself but a drug that promotes insulin secretion — along with firsthand accounts from people actually using it or being prescribed it, covering the price gap between insured and cosmetic use, and how easily people rebound after stopping.

    Oct 3 (Sat), 20:17

    Yomiuri Shimbun Online

    The Japan Society for the Study of Obesity announced on the 3rd a statement saying that diabetes drugs such as Mounjaro should not be used for rapid weight loss or excessive dietary restriction. The statement responds to the spreading use of the drug for dieting purposes, warning that such use carries risks of health problems including vomiting and abdominal pain. It will be published on the society’s website on the 5th.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    15AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:17
    Eat less or move more and you'll lose weight. Obviously.
    26AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:23
    Re: #15
    Telling someone who can't help stress-eating to just stop eating is like forcing an impossible task on a sick person. If your numbers are bad and you're covered by insurance for Mounjaro and the side effects aren't brutal, that's the better option.
    18AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:20
    The moment you
    quit Mounjaro,
    you start
    ballooning right back up.
    42AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:33
    Re: #18
    Seriously?
    That's pretty much how most medications go, though.
    21AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:21
    I wonder if even the guys with guts so big you can't believe it actually worry about this.
    95AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:23
    Re: #21
    Sales guys have bellies like they swallowed a balance ball — probably from all the wining and dining with clients.
    25AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:23
    There's a pharmacist built like a sumo wrestler. Is he not on Mounjaro himself?
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:27
    Re: #25
    There are doctors like that too.
    Which basically means
    no matter how much you use Mounjaro,
    you're guaranteed to rebound eventually.
    Proper weight loss takes athlete-level discipline,
    and almost nobody can actually manage that.
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:24
    How much does Mounjaro even cost a month?
    48AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:35
    Re: #28
    > Post 28, Anonymous Donburako (a default 5ch poster name), 2026/10/03 (Sat) 22:24:35.16 ID:JwceirkE0
    > How much does Mounjaro even cost a month?

    For 4 weeks (1 month) without insurance (cosmetic use), four pens of the weak 2.5mg dose run just under ¥10,000.
    That's a bit over ¥2,000 a pen.
    Most people find that dose underwhelming, but
    the YouTuber from "Sanocchi TV" had it hit so hard he got sick and had to quit.
    Said food sat in his stomach for days and he couldn't stop burping.
    Normally people bump the dose up when 2.5mg feels too weak, but how it hits you varies a lot person to person.

    With insurance for diabetes, it gets cheaper.
    34AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:27
    So that just shows how insanely strong the effect is.
    37AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:29
    Re: #34
    I use it legally, and the effect is absolutely real.
    The results and the feeling of it are both unmistakable.
    77AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:50
    Re: #34
    If the effect is that insane, the side effects are definitely nasty too.
    49AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:36
    A drug ordinary people have nothing to do with —
    isn't it only obtainable through shady channels?
    54AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:40
    Re: #49
    It's long since become available through regular insured prescriptions.
    As of this August, the drug price was revised and it got cheaper.
    57AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:40
    Viagra started out as a heart medication too, right?
    Why not just officially approve this one as a diet drug?
    63AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:44
    Re: #57
    Hair-growth drugs are heart medication too — except repurposed that way they don't work, and they'll kill you lol
    59AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:42
    I got put on Rybelsus for being fat —
    apparently I'm at risk of diabetes.
    71AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:47
    Re: #59
    That's not a "risk" — you're already solidly diabetic at that point.
    86AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:02
    It's basically just not eating, and since you lose muscle, exercise gets recommended on top of it —
    but if you were able to exercise, you wouldn't be this fat to begin with.
    94AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:18
    Re: #86
    Just not leaning on cars, elevators, and escalators for every little trip counts as exercise.
    89AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:11
    If you take a break of 5+ minutes partway through a meal, you'll slowly slim down.
    104AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:37
    Re: #89
    Seriously?
    Taking a break cuts down on overeating?
    91AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:15
    I'm on Mounjaro treatment, but my appetite isn't dropping at all??
    100AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:34
    Re: #91
    > Post 91, Anonymous Donburako, sage (posted without bumping the thread), 2026/10/03 (Sat) 23:15:10.53 ID:JygRLkXr0
    > I'm on Mounjaro treatment, but my appetite isn't dropping at all??

    Healthy life expectancy is limited, so humble yourself and beg your doctor to up the dose.
    107AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:42
    Isn't Mounjaro a drug that promotes insulin secretion?
    If your secretion's already normal despite being fat, wouldn't it just strain your pancreas, and you'd end up diabetic anyway even after losing the weight? How does that work?
    119AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:55
    Re: #107
    I'm actually a type 2 diabetic prescribed Mounjaro by a specialist, so let me explain what I know.


    Mounjaro, the diabetes drug → is NOT an insulin injection.

    Mounjaro is a GIP/GLP-1 receptor agonist,
    and works the same way as the hormones (GIP and GLP-1) that promote insulin secretion.

    When blood sugar rises, GIP/GLP-1 get released from the small intestine,
    and once they reach the pancreas, they signal it to release insulin.


    Diabetics inject insulin to lower their blood sugar,
    but Mounjaro gets injected to make the pancreas secrete insulin instead.
    Either way, both insulin and Mounjaro are injections aimed at lowering blood sugar.
    124AnonymousOct 4, 2026 00:05
    Re: #107
    Apparently it gives insulin secretion more of a rhythm, so the pancreas actually gets to rest properly when it should — which is supposed to be a good thing. But that's strictly for type 2 diabetics whose insulin output is already sufficient.
    Re: #121
    That's exactly why they didn't give Mounjaro an obesity indication and instead released a separate obesity-targeted version under the name "Zepbound." Letting just anyone use it to lose weight would probably be a problem, but they clearly do want in on obesity treatment.
    121AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:59
    It's pointless trying to stop it —
    this is the first genuine "weight loss drug" humanity has ever gotten its hands on,
    so plenty of people are going to want it no matter what.
    127AnonymousOct 4, 2026 00:12
    Taking Mounjaro doesn't actually make you lose weight by itself.
    All it does is dull your appetite somewhat, so calling it a weight-loss drug is a stretch.
    It's fundamentally a treatment for diabetics that makes the pancreas secrete insulin to lower blood sugar.
    Diabetics using it for anything other than treating their diabetes is simply using it wrong.
    129AnonymousOct 4, 2026 00:17
    Re: #127
    Uh, if your appetite drops, you lose weight. That's literally how it works.
    145AnonymousOct 4, 2026 01:49
    Still, after using Mounjaro alongside exercise for my type 2 diabetes, I did pick up a few things. Like, "spot reduction" isn't actually a real way to lose fat — you slim down from your extremities first, and your belly is the very last place to start shrinking, so fat builds up differently depending on the body part. Also, you don't just lose weight from Mounjaro plus exercise alone — you need to get the right nutrition while exercising and also restrict your diet, or it won't happen. So thinking you can lose weight on Mounjaro alone is naive, and honestly that's the wrong way to use it in the first place — that's not really "losing weight" properly. Good learning experience, though.
    170AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:37
    For dieting purposes,
    it's cheaper than going to the gym.
    174AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:43
    Re: #170
    I don't get why people go to the gym to diet —
    running outside is free.
    178AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:46
    Re: #170
    The gym is where you go to build muscle.
    This drug is a drug that wipes your muscle out.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Mounjaro (tirzepatide) is a type 2 diabetes drug that stimulates both the GIP and GLP-1 receptors to promote insulin secretion — as the thread’s more technical replies point out, it is not an insulin injection itself. Because its appetite-suppressing effect is strong, off-label “cosmetic purpose” prescriptions have spread, a trend that became easier to access following this August’s drug price revision. Overseas, it’s approved for obesity under the name “Zepbound,” but in Japan it remains positioned primarily as a diabetes treatment, with no standalone approval for obesity itself. The thread split over whether appetite loss and the resulting weight loss should be seen as “the drug working” versus “just not eating,” and opinions further diverged over how to weigh rebound risk after stopping against muscle loss and other side effects. This article keeps the technical explanations of how the drug promotes insulin secretion rather than being insulin itself, along with firsthand accounts of pricing and insurance realities, while cutting out personal attacks and off-topic jokes.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “[💉] Diabetes drug Mounjaro: “Should not be used for rapid weight loss or extreme dietary restriction”… Japan Obesity Society issues statement.”

  • Dai-ichi Life Hit by Unauthorized Access—Data on 120,000 Employees Possibly Leaked; 5ch: “Isn’t That a Bit Much?”

    On October 2, Dai-ichi Life Group and Dai-ichi Life Insurance announced that the HR system jointly used by both companies had suffered unauthorized access, potentially leaking information on roughly 120,000 employees. Of these, about 70,000 belong to former employees. On 5ch, posters lined this incident up alongside the recent string of corporate data breaches — Times Car, Yamato Transport, Seicomart, and others — with many asking “isn’t that too many?” The thread spiraled into speculation about a shared underlying cause and debate over whether AI is being used to carry out these cyberattacks.

    Oct 2 (Fri), 16:52 JST

    ITmedia NEWS

    Dai-ichi Life Group and Dai-ichi Life Insurance announced on October 2 that the HR system used by both companies had suffered unauthorized access, potentially leaking information on approximately 120,000 employees. Of that total, around 70,000 are said to be former employees.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:43
    I think it's pointless no matter how much security you put on a system that's connected to the internet.
    There's no way we can match overseas hackers.
    9AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:45
    Re: #4
    More like AI is going to outclass them even further.
    102AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:10
    Re: #4
    Re: #9
    Hackers are using AI.
    Apparently there's know-how out there for smooth-talking Claude into getting 'brainwashed' and using it for cyberattacks.
    8AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:44
    Times Car
    Dai-ichi Life
    Yamato Transport
    Seicomart
    Avahouse

    Isn't that getting to be a few too many?
    16AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:46
    You should probably pull your money out of regional banks.
    Their systems are old and keep getting breached.
    Online banks are more nimble, so they're still safer for now.
    76AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:01
    Re: #16
    Just try working in the IT/web industry once, seriously.
    20AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:47
    Kanji of the year should be "漏" (leak).
    Everyone's awareness of outside intrusion is way too low across the board.
    Though some of it's inside jobs too.
    34AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:49
    Re: #20
    Maybe it also fits because of all the flooding this year — water "leaking" (漏れる) everywhere too.
    25AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:48
    AI makes it easy to whip up programs these days, I guess.
    33AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:49
    Re: #25
    Maybe someone told an AI 'look into Dai-ichi Life' and it went off and did its own digging behind the scenes.
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:49
    This looks like everyone's getting hit at once.
    Isn't anyone putting out a statement? All the big names are getting wiped out.
    44AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:52
    Re: #28
    Could they all be running the same database?
    Like, is it Oracle or MySQL?
    37AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:50
    Feels like we're about to get rewound 50 years all at once.
    Banks going back to handwritten forms and greeting letters by mail.
    46AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:53
    Re: #37
    It's the servers holding that data that are being targeted.
    57AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:57
    Don't sneak your announcement out while everyone's distracted by the Times Car mess.
    64AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:58
    Re: #57
    Even the Digital Agency is trying to ride this wave lol
    58AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:57
    Wouldn't be surprised if a megabank leaks data before long.
    72AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:59
    Re: #58
    Apparently they're already discussing building new security systems.
    With AI and next-gen PCs — can't quite put it into words, but some seriously powerful stuff has shown up —
    so companies are reportedly getting together to hash out new security setups.
    63AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:58
    Times Car, Dai-ichi Life, Nichirei…
    They just keep coming.
    69AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:59
    Re: #63
    Even the Digital Agency, before Times…
    84AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:02
    I'd think just banning outside access in the first place would prevent most of this.
    Why do they even leave settings that allow access from outside the company?
    88AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:04
    Re: #84
    Probably the effect of remote work spreading?
    Also because they leave it set up so you can log in and make entries anytime after a transaction.
    91AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:05
    Isn't this just AI being abused to pull this off?
    Can it really leak this easily?
    95AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:07
    Re: #91
    Yeah, it's doable.
    You just plant it in advance and trigger it.
    Cyberattacks are easy to escalate in a controlled way —
    once you've gotten this far, you decide which industry to hit next.
    98AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:08
    Re: #91
    There was a Japanese hacker arrested on suspicion of pranking a bunch of people by force-canceling their accounts,
    and it was said AI was used for that too.
    97AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:08
    At this point the kanji of the year, forced through however awkwardly, is basically just "AI."
    As for buzzword of the year, I don't care if it's baseball, the Asian Games,
    Jungrilla, or whatever.
    132AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:19
    Re: #97
    If AI had to be one kanji, it's gotta be "愛" (ai, meaning 'love') — same pronunciation, case closed.
    113AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:12
    Maybe the punchline is that they're all contracted with the same security company.
    It's not like AI suddenly made brute-forcing way faster or anything —
    unless the access keys are literally identical across all of them, there's no explaining this many breaches happening at once.
    119AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:14
    Re: #113
    There's definitely a common thread.
    The targeted industries do show a pattern, so it seems like something's being narrowed down somehow.
    124AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:15
    Re: #113
    There was that story about companies that contracted the same security firm and granted it full OS-level access —
    turned out to be a design flaw in the security software's settings, and once it pushed an update, outages hit everywhere, causing massive damage.
    Apple, though, apparently caught on early and refused that level of access on macOS, so it kept running without a hitch.
    143AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:23
    Cyberattacks have been rising since 2022, well before AI got this powerful.
    Come on.
    152AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:25
    There's no proof AI is doing this, but doesn't Re: #143 also fail as evidence that AI *isn't* doing it?
    185AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:38
    Re: #152
    Didn't you know AI is said to recommend working around the Personal Information Protection Act?
    160AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:27
    Re: #146
    Yeah, that's how it looks from the outside.
    On the other hand, on the server side itself, how much can actually be logged — like which account accessed what, and how much of that can be retained?
    Is the overhead too huge? Is there really no mechanism that keeps all of that?
    172AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:33
    Re: #160
    I'd think things like downloads or copies to disk would at least leave a record.
    184AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:36
    Re: #172
    Ah, thanks for the answer.
    I don't know system operations that well, but I guess how much forensic data survives depends on the settings and environment built in beforehand?
    186AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:38
    Re: #184
    Sorry, I don't get what you're saying lol
    187AnonymousOct 3, 2026 16:38
    Re: #184
    My bad — correction: not "that well," more like "not at all."

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    In recent years, a string of data breaches has hit companies and government bodies one after another — Times Car, Yamato Transport, Seicomart, the Digital Agency — and Dai-ichi Life’s announcement lands squarely in that same wave. The thread zeroed in on how “simultaneous” these incidents seem, speculating that a shared security vendor or database might be behind it, but no technical link between the companies has actually been confirmed — this remains pure community speculation. Plenty of posts also suggested AI is being used in these cyberattacks, but cyberattacks themselves have actually been on the rise since before 2022, and no evidence has been presented that directly ties the spread of generative AI to the increase in attack numbers. One point readers can easily miss is that of the 120,000 people affected, 70,000 were former employees whose personal data was still being retained after they left — this wasn’t limited to current staff, a detail that’s easy to overlook in the original report.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Dai-ichi Life Hit by Unauthorized Access — Data on 120,000 Employees Possibly Leaked, Former Staff Included“.