Category: Society

  • Disability-Hiring “Proxy Business” Booms — Worker Injured at Job Site With No Real Connection to Employer

    Under Japan’s Act on Employment Promotion of Persons with Disabilities, the statutory employment quota rose from 2.5% to 2.7% in July 2026, now applying to companies with more than 37.5 regular employees. Companies that fail to meet the quota are fined 50,000 yen per month for each unfilled slot, but the law says nothing about what kind of work disabled employees must actually do. Exploiting that loophole, a “proxy business” has been expanding in which companies farm out disabled workers to farms and other sites with no connection to their actual business, just to satisfy the quota on paper. This time, a workplace accident was reported at one such site. On the forum, opinions calculating cost-benefit (“fair enough if it’s cheaper than the fine”) clashed with criticism that “the system is just creating employment in name only.”

    (Excerpt) Statutory employment quota for disabled persons: Under the Act on Employment Promotion of Persons with Disabilities, employers are required to hire a minimum number of employees with disabilities. In July, the quota rose from 2.5% to 2.7%. It applies to companies with 37.5 or more employees working on a regular basis. If a company with more than 100 employees fails to meet the quota, it is charged a disability employment levy of 50,000 yen per month for each employee short of the quota.

    ◆ The employer is a “general hospital” — the actual workplace is a large greenhouse farm

    The proxy business for disability hiring has been expanding in recent years. Because the Act on Employment Promotion of Persons with Disabilities has no rules on what specific work disabled employees must do, much of the work involves farms and similar operations that have nothing to do with the company’s or organization’s actual business but can easily take on disabled workers. Critics call this “manufactured jobs” that exist only on paper, and this kind of working environment may be what led to the inadequate safety management seen in this case.

    Source: tokyo-np.co.jp / Original article here

    9AnonymousSep 18, 2026 08:22
    The disability employment levy is 50,000 yen a month…

    Wouldn't it be better for everyone — the disabled person included — to just give that money directly to them and let them stay home?
    13AnonymousSep 18, 2026 08:29
    Re: #9 Re: #1
    In Japan's FY2021 (Reiwa 3) national settlement, tax and stamp revenue was about 64 trillion yen, while social security spending was about 55 trillion yen.

    That means 86% of tax and stamp revenue goes to social security.

    A third of Japan's population is elderly (65+) living on social security, and it takes two people — including the disabled and minors — to support the living costs of one elderly person.

    Japan's social security spending is already at its limit.
    46AnonymousSep 18, 2026 08:51
    Re: #9
    If you gave it to them directly, that'd be government spending, but the corporate levy is government revenue, isn't it?
    16AnonymousSep 18, 2026 08:35
    They should just count developmental disabilities under the disability hiring quota too — a bit slow, but they can do normal work just fine.
    21AnonymousSep 18, 2026 08:36
    Re: #16
    The thing is, developmental disabilities often don't get certified as a disability — that's the tough part.
    29AnonymousSep 18, 2026 08:43
    Re: #16
    Nah, that just creates Cassandra syndrome (the emotional burnout partners/coworkers of ASD people can suffer) — don't need that.
    34AnonymousSep 18, 2026 08:46
    Re: #16
    If someone develops secondary depression because of a developmental disability, they do count as disabled.
    41AnonymousSep 18, 2026 08:48
    Apparently 97% are small and mid-sized companies. Big companies use tests for promotions and hiring, so a manager's personal likes and dislikes matter less, but at small and mid-sized companies, someone like me is out of luck.
    75AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:10
    Companies get some money for hiring disabled people, right? Same kind of deal as those youth-employment subsidy things.
    85AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:15
    Re: #75
    That's because there's a law saying if you have 37+ employees, you have to hire disabled people equal to 2.7% of your workforce.
    83AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:14
    Re: #75
    Isn't it the opposite? Companies above a certain size get fined if they don't hire disabled workers. This seems more like a business that "dispatches" disabled workers to companies trying to avoid that fine, formally transferring their employment.
    92AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:21
    Re: #83
    You're right. It's about the company avoiding the fine it'd otherwise pay.

    But what's strange is that the hospital's expenses go up. There's no benefit to the hospital in having these workers actually work at the hospital.
    108AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:28
    Re: #92
    Apparently the disabled workers don't actually work at the hospital at all — they just keep working at the farm. It looks like the farm rents out just their names to the hospital, and the hospital pays the farm something like a "line usage fee" in return.
    116AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:32
    Re: #92
    If paying the fine were enough, 50,000 yen would be the easy option, but failing to meet the quota gets your company name publicly listed.
    97AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:25
    Hospitals are required to hire disabled workers but don't want to actually deal with them, so they pay an outside company to take care of all the hassle for them.
    106AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:28
    Re: #97
    In that case, just paying the fine would be the smaller financial burden, wouldn't it? They'd rather pay more than the fine than actually hire disabled workers. Or is it that they'd rather pay more than the fine just to be able to say they "employed" disabled people?

    It looks like a business built entirely around saving face — a super niche disability-employment industry.
    111AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:30
    Re: #97
    Honestly, just paying the fine seems better. I really don't get why they don't.
    105AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:28
    Forcing people who aren't able to work into the workforce — who does that even benefit? Meanwhile, NPOs chasing subsidies are on the rise too. The whole system design is fundamentally off.
    117AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:32
    Re: #105
    Welfare (namapo, slang for public assistance/生活保護) and disability pension are enough, honestly. Having able-bodied people work and cover the cost is more efficient overall.
    121AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:34
    Re: #105
    If it were run by an NPO that'd be one thing, but having straight-up for-profit companies running employment-transition-support facilities or "Type B" welfare workshops (low-intensity work facilities for people who can't manage regular employment) feels like the system design is just wrong. They round up disabled people and have them train to become pro gamers or game streamers or whatever…

    The fact that's become a business feels wrong to me.
    129AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:39
    For small and mid-sized companies, just paying the 50,000 yen and sitting tight might honestly be the sane move. Big companies that rely on government contracts will scramble to look compliant, though — a 5-point difference in the overall evaluation score is a pretty big deal.
    130AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:42
    Re: #129
    Just so you know, it's (shortfall in headcount, or more precisely "points") × (months short) × 50,000 yen. Being short by 1 point for a full year means a 600,000 yen fine.
    133AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:46
    Re: #129
    Usually that works out cheaper overall, yeah. And fines like this are set at a level meant to land right at that kind of compromise point.
    ※ Otherwise politicians would come under pressure to "lower it further."
    147AnonymousSep 18, 2026 09:57
    At this rate, it feels like companies will start sending regular employees to psychiatrists hoping to reclassify them under the disability quota — ADHD, ASD, that sort of thing.
    155AnonymousSep 18, 2026 10:11
    Re: #147
    Bureaucrats are already doing that — they've been slotting people with pretty bad eyesight into the disability quota to hit their numbers.
    196AnonymousSep 18, 2026 10:47
    Re: #147
    Animators are already being hired under the developmental-disability quota. Realistically, a lot of people who actually draw anime probably have ASD traits anyway.
    164AnonymousSep 18, 2026 10:16
    Honestly, someone missing their left hand is probably at a huge advantage in this system. Thinking about it that way, it feels like people are being sorted by degree of disability, which seems messed up in its own way.
    180AnonymousSep 18, 2026 10:30
    Re: #164
    I knew someone who lost a leg in a traffic accident who was writing code at an IT company, and another guy who did computer maintenance at a small/mid-sized company… Both stories are from 30 years ago, but if you're actually capable, you get hired for real.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The statutory employment quota under Japan’s Act on Employment Promotion of Persons with Disabilities rose from 2.5% to 2.7% in July 2026, applying to companies with 37.5 or more regular employees. Companies that fail to meet the quota are fined 50,000 yen per month per unfilled slot, but the law doesn’t specify what kind of work disabled employees must actually be given. Exploiting that gap, a “proxy business” has spread in which companies have disabled workers actually work at farms and other sites unrelated to their real business, lending out only their names to the nominal employer. On the forum, discussion centered on the cost-benefit calculation of fines versus levies and proxy fees, while there was little information about the actual working conditions and safety management for the disabled employees themselves — this workplace accident is being read as an example of exactly that kind of lax oversight. The gap between the system’s stated purpose (meeting the quota) and its actual practice (employment in name only) is the core of the debate, though that’s hard to grasp from the scattered replies alone.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “A regulatory loophole? Disability-hiring “proxy business” expands — workplace accident occurs at site unrelated to the employer.”

  • Top US Economist Says BOJ Must Hike Rates to 1.5–2%, Predicts Yen Could Surge to ¥130/Dollar

    As the US Federal Reserve raises interest rates for the first time in roughly three years, speculation is growing that the Bank of Japan will also move to hike rates further. Paul Sheard, former vice chairman of S&P Global, argued that the BOJ needs to raise its policy rate to around 1.5–2%, and suggested that in the long run the yen could strengthen to the 130s or even 120s against the dollar. On 5ch, this proposal sparked lively debate over the relationship between interest rate differentials and exchange rates, the clash between expansionary and austerity fiscal policy, and how inflation affects different generations.

    As the US Federal Reserve (the Fed) moves to raise interest rates for the first time in about three years, expectations are growing that the Bank of Japan will also carry out an additional rate hike this week. A prominent American economist stated that the BOJ needs to raise its policy rate to somewhere around 1.5% to 2%.

    (omitted)

    Paul Sheard, former Vice Chairman of S&P Global

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    67AnonymousSep 18, 2026 05:05
    A US rate cut is coming eventually.
    Japan should get its rate up to neutral before that happens —
    that's the only way the rate gap actually starts closing.
    Looks like it could happen sometime next year though.
    71AnonymousSep 18, 2026 05:06
    Re: #67
    With the midterms on November 3rd making Trump a lame duck, won't the pressure for rate cuts ease up?
    72AnonymousSep 18, 2026 05:07
    Re: #67
    And what about inflation?
    91AnonymousSep 18, 2026 05:17
    This is cost-push inflation,
    so hiking rates won't do a damn thing.
    Houses won't sell and we're headed straight into a recession.
    Meanwhile the government's interest payments wreck the budget.
    97AnonymousSep 18, 2026 05:17
    Re: #91
    Sounds like a realtor sweating bullets lol
    104AnonymousSep 18, 2026 05:21
    Re: #91
    >This is cost-push inflation,
    >so hiking rates won't do a damn thing.
    >Houses won't sell and we're headed straight into a recession.
    >Meanwhile the government's interest payments wreck the budget.

    Yeah, clearly a realtor panicking, but it's obvious this is just copy-pasted straight from generative AI lol.
    I get answers from "Caude" (sic — presumably means Claude) that match this word-for-word all the time.
    143AnonymousSep 18, 2026 05:39
    Japan's carry trade did the world a favor,
    but it looks like the US is finally moving to put an end to it.
    147AnonymousSep 18, 2026 05:41
    Where exactly in today's Japan is the case for long-term yen appreciation, seriously lol
    Exchange rates aren't decided by interest rates alone.

    Japan's population is shrinking and will keep aging with a falling birthrate for the long haul — there's no way the yen strengthens under those conditions.
    150AnonymousSep 18, 2026 05:43
    Re: #147
    That whole "responsible expansionary fiscal policy" leading to "growth" is a total lie.

    Apparently the top priority sector is AI,
    so our tax money ends up funding American Big Tech instead.
    242AnonymousSep 18, 2026 06:10
    Re: #147
    A Big Mac costs ¥600 in Japan versus the equivalent of ¥800 in the US
    161AnonymousSep 18, 2026 05:48
    Re: #147
    Aging populations and low birthrates aren't some exclusive Japanese problem.
    Especially on the birthrate front, Japan's actually one of the better-off countries in East Asia these days.
    168AnonymousSep 18, 2026 05:50
    Re: #161
    True, Germany and Italy have a similar average age to Japan and they're seeing solid economic growth.

    Japan's the only one in steady decline.
    https://imgur.com/MrcH9mf.jpeg
    196AnonymousSep 18, 2026 06:00
    Re: #189
    If I knew what sector was going to grow, I wouldn't be a politician or a bureaucrat — I'd be running my own business with that knowledge.
    Could you have predicted stickers would become a huge trend?
    206AnonymousSep 18, 2026 06:04
    Re: #196
    Exactly — that's precisely why the state has currency-issuing power, letting it invest in all kinds of areas companies simply can't replicate.

    And since infrastructure upkeep isn't being done properly, flood damage keeps rising, which just drives up reconstruction costs even more.
    225AnonymousSep 18, 2026 06:07
    Re: #206
    You still haven't reached the point of realizing that currency-issuing power itself is the problem.
    Still got a long way to go.
    245AnonymousSep 18, 2026 06:11
    Re: #225
    Issuing currency isn't the problem in itself — issuing it improperly is the problem.
    What matters is getting money into citizens' hands, not the government spending it.
    264AnonymousSep 18, 2026 06:15
    Re: #258
    Rich people prefer inflation lol,
    since it drives up the value of their assets.
    You don't actually think rich people keep their wealth in cash, do you? lol
    265AnonymousSep 18, 2026 06:15
    Re: #264
    Sorry, I meant everyone except the rich.
    269AnonymousSep 18, 2026 06:17
    Re: #265
    Inflation is actually better for young people.
    Just look at now, in this inflationary period —

    the job-openings-to-applicants ratio is at an all-time high,
    and starting salaries are at an all-time high too.

    That's exactly why the Takaichi administration has such high approval among young people.
    276AnonymousSep 18, 2026 06:19
    Re: #269
    Young people get old eventually too, you know.
    And on top of that, those same young people are getting married even less than they did back in the deflation era lol
    279AnonymousSep 18, 2026 06:19
    Re: #269
    True enough.
    Inflation means my savings are effectively losing a few percent of their real value every year,
    so it does narrow the gap between young and old.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Speculation about a BOJ rate hike tends to be discussed alongside expectations of yen appreciation from a narrowing US-Japan rate gap, but as commenters in the thread pointed out, exchange rates aren’t determined by rate differentials alone — structural factors like the trade balance and demographics matter too. The “carry trade” refers to borrowing low-interest yen to invest in overseas assets, and it’s often cited as a key reason the BOJ kept rates pinned down for so long. The fight between expansionary and austerity fiscal policy has raged for decades; it’s true Japan’s government debt-to-GDP ratio is among the highest of any major economy, but economists themselves are split on whether that’s actually a problem, so it’s not a topic that reduces neatly to right and wrong.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “Prominent US economist says Japan needs to raise rates to 1.5–2%, “In the long run, levels of ¥130 or ¥120 to the dollar”.”

  • Hidden Chamber Deep in Tutankhamun’s Tomb? Could Be the Lost Tomb of Stepmother Nefertiti

    Analysis by an international research team suggests a previously unknown, massive chamber may lie deep within the tomb of Tutankhamun — hailed as the greatest archaeological find of the 20th century. The leading theory is that it could be the tomb of Queen Nefertiti, Tutankhamun’s stepmother, and the findings were published as a paper in the September 17 issue of the British science journal Nature. On 5channel, some users questioned whether this really had appeared in Nature, while others confirmed the paper was real and that it was already causing a stir in archaeology circles. Some replies explained the backstory: Tutankhamun’s tomb sat in an inconspicuous spot in the Valley of the Kings, which spared it from looters, and it was later buried by a flood and forgotten for 3,000 years. Others simply wondered why, after so many decades of research, this was only coming to light now.

    Published 9/17 (Thu) 20:59

    TBS NEWS DIG, Powered by JNN

    An international team’s survey has found that another massive royal tomb may be connected to the tomb of Egypt’s King Tutankhamun, regarded as the greatest discovery of the 20th century. The findings were also published today (the 17th) in the British science journal Nature.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    15AnonymousSep 17, 2026 23:36
    Guess it's possible to find something like this only now, even after decades of research.
    43AnonymousSep 17, 2026 23:49
    Re: #15
    It's directly tied to the tourism industry, so they're deliberately releasing info bit by bit.
    22AnonymousSep 17, 2026 23:40
    >>'Could be one of the most important discoveries of this century'
    Isn't that Japanese phrasing a bit off?
    Are you even Japanese…
    If you're gonna say it, just say
    'The greatest discovery of the century!'
    79AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:09
    Re: #22
    That's because Japanese can't really express plurals.

    In English-speaking cultures, they dislike making such a naive absolute claim, so they use the plural and phrase it as 'one of' them. But since Japanese has no plural form, it ends up reading like a contradiction.
    105AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:24
    Re: #22
    The original text is:
    'It could be one of the most important discoveries of this century.'
    The Japanese word for 'most' implies the single top spot, so a lot of people picture just one thing. But the English 'most' isn't so much 'the single top' as it is 'the top-tier group.'

    English words and Japanese words don't always map one-to-one, you know.
    23AnonymousSep 17, 2026 23:40
    An 'Unknown Chamber' in Tutankhamun's Tomb? Exclusive Coverage of the Egypt Survey [Hodo Tokushu]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwpSwrwH5-k
    TBS did a documentary on this a few years back.
    51AnonymousSep 17, 2026 23:54
    Re: #23
    Honestly, the narrator's voice sounded so old it was hard to make out what she was saying.
    33AnonymousSep 17, 2026 23:43
    Is Tutankhamun's tomb a different thing from the three great pyramids of Giza?
    35AnonymousSep 17, 2026 23:44
    Re: #33
    Tutankhamun's tomb was in a hard-to-find spot, which is why it mostly escaped looters — it's not a pyramid.
    48AnonymousSep 17, 2026 23:52
    Re: #33
    A king who only reigned a few years couldn't have had a tomb that huge built.
    49AnonymousSep 17, 2026 23:53
    Re: #33
    Yeah, it's a different thing. There's about a 1,000-year gap from the pyramids. By Tutankhamun's time, tombs were being dug into the Valley of the Kings in Luxor instead. Tutankhamun's tomb was actually looted shortly after it was built, but right after that a flood completely buried it, and it stayed forgotten for 3,000 years.
    37AnonymousSep 17, 2026 23:46
    If only Professor Yoshimura were still alive… (Sakuji Yoshimura, Japan's best-known Egyptologist)
    39AnonymousSep 17, 2026 23:47
    Re: #37
    Professor Kawae's still around, isn't he
    115AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:29
    Re: #37
    Wait, did he die? For a second I thought so, but he's still alive lol
    But it's rough seeing how much he's changed.
    44AnonymousSep 17, 2026 23:49
    There was an exclusive breaking-news flash on TV just now, and TBS News posted it on YouTube about 30 minutes ago too, but it got pulled almost instantly.
    This isn't just someone mixing it up with an old news story, right?
    70AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:05
    Re: #44
    The paper is properly published in Nature, and Egyptology folks are buzzing about it on Twitter, so it's not fake.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-02621-2
    63AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:00
    I used to watch every Egypt-related show without fail, so this gets me hyped.
    Realistically though, if they ever actually found something, wouldn't Cleopatra's tomb be the biggest deal?
    65AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:01
    Re: #63
    Ramesses II
    68AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:03
    Re: #63
    Cleopatra was on the losing side and took her own life — I wonder if she even has a proper tomb?
    89AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:16
    Fifi asleep (Fifi: an Egyptian-born TV personality popular in Japan)
    121AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:31
    Re: #89
    Lmaooo
    123AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:31
    Re: #89
    Not exactly right, but not far off either
    133AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:37
    Re: #89
    That's some overflowing talent right there
    127AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:33
    Only now? Why's this taking so long?
    Is this an industry only incompetent people work in?
    130AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:35
    Re: #127
    Donations aren't coming in
    152AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:47
    Re: #127
    It's a precious cultural asset and a major tourism resource, so I doubt they can just casually knock down a wall.
    140AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:41
    If they open up whatever's sealing that huge chamber in the back, won't the pyramid collapse?
    143AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:43
    Re: #140
    It's cursed. Or maybe that's exactly the kind of trap it is.
    147AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:44
    Re: #140
    Could be. It's a cash cow for tourism, so no wonder they're being cautious.
    163AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:52
    It was built with technology far more advanced than anything we have today, so honestly they're probably too scared to touch it.
    I don't think money's even the main issue.
    174AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:59
    Re: #163
    Yeah, it really was an astonishing civilization.

    There's something fundamentally different about it, almost otherworldly.
    183AnonymousSep 18, 2026 01:05
    Re: #163
    By Nefertiti's time, Sumer had already collapsed and Babylon was in decline too. It was a world 1,000 years after Sumer and 500 years after Babylon — an era when the mighty Hittites and Egypt were going head-to-head for real. Even Egypt didn't have ironworking technology back then; the Hittites held a monopoly on it.
    169AnonymousSep 18, 2026 00:54
    https://www.sponichi.co.jp/entertainment/news/2025/07/17/jpeg/20250717s10041000389000p_view.webp

    Background and Key Points

    This announcement appears to lend fresh support to a hypothesis first proposed in 2015 by British Egyptologist Nicholas Reeves: that Nefertiti’s tomb lies hidden behind the walls of Tutankhamun’s burial chamber. Radar scans at the time also pointed to the presence of a hidden space, but subsequent surveys produced negative results too, and the debate over whether the theory is true has dragged on for years. In the thread, when users asked why new findings would only surface now despite decades of research, some pointed to the deliberate pacing of disclosures given the site’s role as a tourism resource, and to the caution involved in deciding whether to break through a wall. Worth noting to avoid confusion: Tutankhamun’s tomb itself is separate from the pyramids both in era and location — it was built in the Valley of the Kings.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Breaking News Plus) thread “[Egypt] Could Another Massive Royal Tomb Lie Deep Within Tutankhamun’s Tomb? Possibly Stepmother Nefertiti’s”.

  • Is “Men Run Hot” Outdated? 5ch Debates the Rise of “Secretly Cold” Men in the Office

    Contrary to the image that “men run hot,” a growing number of men reportedly can’t bring themselves to say they’re cold in air-conditioned offices — a news report on this sparked a lively debate about perceived temperature on 5ch’s News Express+ board. The discussion ranged from the relationship between muscle mass, body fat, and feeling hot or cold, to the psychology of younger employees too embarrassed to put on a layer, all the way to the perennial question of “who actually controls the office AC, anyway.” Sightings were also reported of a “thermostat guardian” who secretly resets the AC back up, with opinions split between those who blame body type for cold sensitivity and those who call it a gendered assumption.

    Have you ever heard the term “secretly cold-sensitive men”?

    While the image of “men running hot” remains deeply entrenched, it’s said that quite a few men struggle with feeling “cold” from air conditioning during summer or other warm periods.

    (details omitted)

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    3AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:55
    With that attitude you'll never cut it as a blue-collar worker
    111AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:36
    Re: #3
    Bet he'd collapse the second he became a blue-collar worker lol
    5AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:57
    Fat = runs hot

    That's why
    if you're average weight or thin, you get cold
    13AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:00
    Re: #5
    Actually fat people are surprisingly cold-sensitive too
    Muscular people are more likely to run hot
    130AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:55
    Re: #5
    Heard that fat itself gets cold, so that's why they feel cold
    27AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:06
    More muscle means you radiate more heat, so you run hot
    Going forward, being ripped just isn't eco-friendly
    28AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:08
    Re: #27
    But they're also more resistant to cold, so it evens out
    41AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:15
    If both the guys and the girls think it's cold, then who's actually in charge of the thermostat?
    Some okama? (dated, often derogatory slang for effeminate or cross-dressing men)
    50AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:21
    Re: #41
    The women at my workplace apparently like the room itself kept cold
    then they use spot cold-proofing gear for specific body parts
    43AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:16
    Are there even fat people with poor circulation (hiesho, chronic cold sensitivity)?
    51AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:22
    Re: #43
    A muscular heavyweight like a sumo wrestler definitely runs hot
    But if it's just plain fat with zero exercise, it wouldn't be strange for them to feel cold
    Basically it comes down to muscle mass
    46AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:18
    Summer AC chill is way more uncomfortable than actual winter cold
    But the women at my office are the ones controlling the thermostat
    63AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:29
    Re: #50
    I get that — I don't want my hands and feet cold, but I like my face cold enough to sting a little
    79AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:37
    Re: #63
    "Cool head, warm feet" is the ideal
    But hot air rises and cold air sinks, so it never works out that way
    It'd be fine if the air actually circulated well, but it rarely does
    68AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:30
    "Male cold sensitivity"
    somehow that phrase really creeps up on you.
    76AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:34
    Re: #68
    Even men get cold sensitivity if they do desk work with zero exercise — I know a guy like that
    Guess it really comes down to keeping your body in shape
    71AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:31
    Pathetic for a man to be cold-sensitive
    Foreign tourists walk around outside in just a T-shirt even in winter
    117AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:38
    Not long ago everyone was saying "set the AC higher for the environment," but nobody says that anymore
    Even though things keep getting more serious
    122AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:43
    Re: #117
    Thinking puny human activity can change the global environment, or that humans can control it, is a bit arrogant lol

    Humans are powerless in the grand scheme.
    124AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:45
    Re: #117
    It worked too well — now we've got a whole generation of old folks who refuse to turn on the AC
    147AnonymousSep 17, 2026 22:07
    The image of men running hot only applies when they work outdoors
    My boss, who got promoted from fieldwork to a desk job,
    kept complaining about being cold
    So basically, white-collar workers are unhealthy
    149AnonymousSep 17, 2026 22:11
    Re: #147
    I do fieldwork, but I wear an air-conditioned jacket plus a dry-ice vest
    It's less "cold" and more just "freezing"
    148AnonymousSep 17, 2026 22:11
    My scalp area is cold, what should I do about that?
    154AnonymousSep 17, 2026 22:16
    Re: #148
    Dye your bald head red
    and the Red Team will give you props
    162AnonymousSep 17, 2026 22:27
    When I got a seat near the AC controller
    no matter how many times I lowered the temperature, it kept mysteriously resetting to 28°C (82°F)

    Because whenever someone dropped it below 27°C, someone else promptly bumped it right back up to 28°C
    173AnonymousSep 17, 2026 22:52
    Re: #162
    28°C (82°F) is scorching hot
    Are you out of your mind?
    168AnonymousSep 17, 2026 22:37
    Men are just turning more feminine these days

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    When it comes to office room temperature, the Ministry of the Environment’s long-recommended “28°C for cooling” guideline often gets cited, but perceived temperature varies enormously from person to person, and the thread repeatedly pointed out that a single set temperature can’t guarantee comfort for everyone. Many commenters attributed cold sensitivity to differences in muscle mass or body fat, but this isn’t a medically established explanation — it’s more of a folk theory — so that premise should be treated with caution when reporting on it. The stereotype that “men run hot” itself seems to be based on an image of outdoor fieldwork, and as desk-based work becomes more common, it may be increasingly out of step with reality. Meanwhile, the question of “who actually controls the office AC” is a recurring theme on these threads, often treated as a microcosm of workplace power dynamics around gender and status.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Health] Men Who Can’t Say “I’m Cold” — Is “Men Run Hot” Outdated? The Reality of the Rising Number of “Secretly Cold-Sensitive Men” in the Office.”

  • Anti-Prostitution Law to Crack Down on ‘Buyers’ Soliciting Too — 5ch: “It’ll Just Go Underground”

    On September 17, an expert panel convened by the Ministry of Justice compiled a report on how to regulate prostitution, concluding that some form of regulation should be introduced for solicitation by buyers, which has until now carried no penalty. The current Anti-Prostitution Law only targets solicitation by sellers, leaving buyers’ solicitation effectively unregulated. Based on the report, the Ministry of Justice reportedly plans to consider submitting an amendment bill to the Diet. On 5ch, threads saw a mix of cautious opinions arguing that regulation would simply push the trade underground, and views suggesting that cutting off demand would eliminate sellers as well, along with concerns about gathering evidence during crackdowns and the risk of blackmail.

    Anti-Prostitution Law overhaul: New regulation on “buyer” solicitation planned — panel report, amendment under consideration – Sankei News

    2026/9/17 15:51

    On the 17th, a Ministry of Justice expert panel discussing how to regulate prostitution compiled a report stating that “some form of regulation should be established” for buyer solicitation, which currently carries no penalty. Based on the content, the Ministry of Justice is moving forward with consideration of submitting an amendment bill to the Diet.

    Source: sankei.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:17
    Great, honeytraps are about to boom.
    5AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:18
    This seems like a good thing.
    Make it a crime severe enough to ruin the buyer's life.
    That way nobody will buy anymore, and sellers will disappear too.
    Since they'll disappear eventually, there's no need to penalize the women.
    77AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:46
    Re: #5
    It'll just go underground.
    115AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:59
    Re: #5
    Are you saying sellers are victims or something?
    Both sellers and buyers do it because they want to.
    If the sex trade market disappeared, some people would be in trouble.
    8AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:19
    Host club guys will just send them overseas to work.
    They'll bring AIDS back into Japan.
    9AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:19
    In the first place, should prostitution even be a crime?
    113AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:59
    Re: #9
    Dating and marriage between men and women are basically a form of prostitution anyway.
    If a woman demands a man pay for meals, gifts, or even support her financially, you should arrest her for prostitution.
    11AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:19
    No, it's because they don't arrest the sellers, right?
    They're not going to arrest the buyers either, are they?

    Are they actually going to?

    If so, hurry up and arrest the sellers already.
    65AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:39
    Re: #11
    Right now only the seller's solicitation is prosecuted,
    but going forward they want to add the buyer's solicitation
    as a target for enforcement too.

    As for making the women's side not guilty going forward,
    that's a separate discussion being had elsewhere.
    17AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:23
    Do hosts, hostesses, "papa-katsu" (sugar-daddy dating) girls, and soapland workers even file tax returns?
    89AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:50
    Re: #17
    No way they do.
    104AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:55
    Re: #17
    So that's where the buried treasure (untaxed income) is hiding.
    38AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:29
    Realistically it'll come down to harsher penalties for buyers.
    Taken to the extreme, if the number of buyers hits zero, the whole concept of selling stops existing.
    41AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:30
    Re: #38
    They'll just ship it overseas.
    Goods or people, it's the same story —
    if it can't be sold domestically, it goes abroad.
    42AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:31
    It's a biological urge, after all.
    Isn't this a human rights violation?
    It's a problem rooted deep in the brain that people can't resist.
    51AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:33
    Do this and women will end up worse off.
    In countries where it's fully illegal, all that's left is streetwalking,
    and treatment gets even worse than now.
    59AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:37
    I actually get propositioned by buyers a fair amount.
    They don't always say it outright — sometimes they just hold up three fingers and go "how about it?"
    It makes me feel awful, so I'm glad they're going to crack down on it.
    63AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:39
    Won't the people hurt most by this be vulnerable women — especially single mothers — who lose their last safety net when the number of buyers plummets?
    67AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:40
    Re: #63
    They'll probably start going door-to-door instead,
    once customer lists start circulating.
    73AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:42
    Just stick to soaplands or "health" shops. (types of legal sex-service establishments)
    Getting arrested for hitting on some sketchy woman standing on the street isn't worth it.
    80AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:47
    Re: #73
    I don't want my face photographed 😓
    75AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:44
    Re: #65
    No, if they'd been arresting people all along, it wouldn't have come to this.

    There's nothing good about prostitution spreading, so they should just hurry up and arrest people, right?
    91AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:50
    Re: #75
    That's why they do get busted occasionally.
    But unless the woman actually solicits someone right in front of an officer,
    there's no evidence to grab, so just standing there isn't enough to get arrested.
    95AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:52
    Re: #91
    The point is, if you don't arrest for that, it's the same story for the buyer's side.
    120AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:02
    Re: #91
    Even if she's the one who approaches you and you respond with "what do you want?", someone's bound to show up saying, "There, you agreed to prostitution. Pay up unless you want me to tell the police." That's basically extortion.
    Will there actually be a system in place to handle that? That's my biggest worry.
    79AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:47
    If you're going to punish "solicitation" by buyers,
    you should punish "waiting for customers" by sellers too.
    106AnonymousSep 17, 2026 19:56
    Re: #79
    Waiting for customers on the seller's side is technically illegal and arrestable too.
    But even though it's illegal on paper, arresting someone for "standing there a long time, getting approached by a man, negotiating, and going into a hotel" is a huge hassle.
    Making the arrest happen the instant either party actually solicits the other is less of a hassle — like the old crackdowns on pink flyers (illegal prostitution ad flyers).
    175AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:22
    I'm not shilling for organized crime or anything, but basically, if a woman wants to earn money selling her body, I think she should work at a soapland or other sex establishment instead of standing on the street.
    For her own safety too — male staff there will sort out any trouble, so isn't that better?
    These days there are even shops that market themselves around having, let's say, seriously unattractive women, so there's a place for everyone.
    180AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:24
    Re: #175
    Well, it's the era of work-life balance now…
    Maybe people dislike being tied down by working at a fixed shop?
    185AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:26
    Re: #175
    Mostly agree.

    Working independently is obviously dangerous,
    and some argue the state should manage it, but given how badly Japan's system skims off the top (middlemen taking cuts) these days, it's obvious that wouldn't work.

    Having the yakuza manage it is the least-bad option.
    Problem customers get thrown out, and they even do STI testing.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Nearly 70 years since it was enacted, the Anti-Prostitution Law has long been criticized for a structure that treats women more as targets of crackdowns than as people to be protected. What’s new about this report is that it proposes introducing regulation on “buyer” solicitation, which until now carried no penalty at all. Under the current law, only sellers’ solicitation is subject to enforcement, leaving buyers effectively free to act with impunity. In the thread, cautious voices arguing that punishing only buyers would simply drive the trade underground clashed with more optimistic views holding that cutting off demand would make supply disappear too. On the practical side of enforcement, some worried that merely being approached could be exploited as material for blackmail. It’s worth noting — since this point is easy to misunderstand — that whether to abolish penalties for sellers altogether is being discussed in a separate framework and was not decided by this report. The report itself is only at the stage of encouraging consideration of an amendment bill; the legal revision itself has not been finalized.

    *This article is composed as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “Anti-Prostitution Law overhaul: New regulation on “buyer” solicitation planned — panel report, amendment under consideration.”

  • Power Harassment Rampant at Sendai Meat Wholesaler? 11 Employees Quit After Boss Says ‘Don’t Let the Cattle Die’

    At “Sendai Central Meat Wholesale Market,” the meat wholesaling operator based in the city-run Sendai Municipal Central Wholesale Market, an employee working at the cattle holding pen during the brutal heat of July 2025 was reportedly told by the company president, “I don’t care what happens to you guys. Just make sure the heat doesn’t kill the cattle.” That remark is said to have triggered a wave of resignations, with 11 employees driven to quit since October 2025. On 5ch, opinions split between “prioritizing the cattle is just common business sense” and “that’s a dehumanizing thing to say — he’s unfit to run a company,” sparking a broader debate over whether cattle or employees should come first.

    It has come to light that more than 10 employees were driven to resign after suffering power harassment from the president at a meat wholesaling company operating within the city-run Sendai Municipal Central Wholesale Market.

    The wave of resignations tied to alleged harassment occurred at “Sendai Central Meat Wholesale Market,” a meat wholesaler located in Miyagino Ward, Sendai, within the city-run market. According to those familiar with the matter, abusive treatment of multiple employees by the president had become routine at the company. In July 2025, during a spell of severe heat, an employee working at the cattle holding pen was reportedly subjected to verbal abuse from the president, including the remark: “I don’t care what happens to you guys. Just make sure the heat doesn’t kill the cattle.”

    As a result of this alleged harassment, 11 employees at the company have been driven to resign since October 2025.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    7AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:40
    This counts as harassment?
    Sounds like standard company philosophy to me.
    42AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:47
    If you're raising cattle, of course the cattle matter more than people — that's just how it is.
    The problem is the relationship between him and the workers was bad enough that it felt like harassment.
    But still, if you're raising cattle, you'd better prioritize the cattle.
    50AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:48
    Well, whoever quit, quit.

    There are plenty of foreign workers to replace them.
    51AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:49
    Isn't livestock farming basically the harshest job out there?
    Working in that overwhelming stench…
    59AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:51
    Is this really harassment?
    Isn't this just him stating the obvious?
    78AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:53
    Re: #59
    It's not "the obvious" — the point is that managing the heat is literally your job as the boss.
    You can't beat the heat through sheer willpower.
    96AnonymousSep 17, 2026 20:57
    Re: #59
    He might lack the imagination to realize that someone who's just been told "you don't matter" isn't exactly going to bust their butt keeping the cattle alive.
    118AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:01
    Your story means nothing to me
    You're not even on my radar
    you are not…

    I've always wanted to say that
    133AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:04
    Re: #118
    Go for it.
    What happens after is on you though.
    121AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:02
    We are but slaves to the cattle.
    137AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:06
    Re: #121
    It just means "take care of the merchandise." That's basic professional ethics.
    141AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:07
    Re: #137
    Also, there's the Animal Welfare Act to consider.
    If you can't manage the animals properly, changing careers might be the only option.
    139AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:07
    "You guys don't matter" — the fact he had to throw in that extra line shows he's just not cut out to be a boss, lol.
    The cattle not dying is a pretty big deal, isn't it?
    He could've just said "keep the cows comfortable" and left it at that.
    158AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:13
    Re: #139
    Exactly.
    He's the kind of garbage human who should never be put in a management role.
    148AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:10
    If the cattle die, the business is done too, so I get why cattle come first.
    152AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:11
    Re: #148
    Subjecting your own employees to psychological abuse straight-up disqualifies you as a business owner.
    161AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:14
    Re: #158
    It's just a fact though — if the cattle die, there's nothing to be done.
    168AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:17
    Re: #161
    That's not a fact.
    A human life outweighs the whole planet.
    Who cares if some cattle die —
    they're getting slaughtered to feed you anyway.
    163AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:15
    This is awful.
    Being told something like that would leave me fuming right before bed.
    171AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:17
    Re: #163
    No point getting fumed up about it.
    If the cattle die, your job disappears with them.
    So keeping the cattle alive and healthy being the top priority just makes sense to me.
    210AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:29
    Re: #171
    Doesn't matter if the cattle live if you drop dead yourself.
    Oh, how noble, sacrificing yourself like that?
    170AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:17
    "Since October 2025, 11 employees have reportedly been driven to resign."
    That pace is an absolute disaster.
    178AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:19
    Re: #170
    Maybe it's just because I've got a glass jaw (lit. "tofu mentality"), but I'd quit a place like this.

    "Boss… I see."
    "I'm sorry… I'll be taking my leave."
    174AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:18
    Forget the people — what happened to the cow?
    181AnonymousSep 17, 2026 21:20
    Re: #174
    Somehow saying it in Osaka dialect makes it forgivable.
    That's got some real warmth to it.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    The Sendai Municipal Central Wholesale Market is a city-run facility, but the actual meat wholesaling business is carried out by private companies operating within the market — and “Sendai Central Meat Wholesale Market,” the company at the center of this controversy, is one of them. Under Japan’s legal definition of power harassment (per the Act on Comprehensive Promotion of Labor Measures), conduct that exceeds what’s necessary for business purposes, backed by a position of authority, and that harms the work environment can qualify — even work-related instructions can count if delivered repeatedly in dehumanizing language. On the thread, opinions split between defenders arguing that “taking measures to keep the cattle from dying is simply a reasonable business order” and critics countering that “the way it was phrased is itself dehumanizing and amounts to an abdication of managerial responsibility.” The fact that 11 employees quit within roughly half a year suggests sustained pressure rather than a single outburst — a situation that can’t be dismissed as either a matter of animal-welfare compliance or a matter of workers’ dignity alone, but likely both.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread ““I don’t care what happens to you guys. Just make sure the heat doesn’t kill the cattle” — Power harassment allegedly rampant under the president of a meat wholesaler at the Sendai Municipal Central Wholesale Market.”

  • Kids Now Online 10+ Hours a Day, Experts Warn — While Other Countries Push SNS Age Limits, Japan Stays Cautious; 5ch Says ‘We Used to Play Games 20 Hours a Day Too’

    A report claiming that children’s internet use has hit ’10+ hours a day’ and is ‘ruining their lives’ sparked a heated debate on 5ch’s News Express+ board over whether such long usage is actually a problem. According to a 2025 survey cited in the article, elementary schoolers now spend an average of about 4 hours online, while high schoolers exceed 6.5 hours — and while other countries are moving to impose age limits on social media, Japan remains largely hesitant to do the same. The thread saw a clash between defenders arguing that ‘kids in the Showa era also spent hours glued to TV and games’ and critics warning that ’10+ hours is abnormal for a kid who still has to go to school,’ with plenty of posts also veering into the loneliness and internet dependence of elderly users.

    ‘My body won’t listen to me’ — Children’s internet addiction reaches crisis levels… 10+ hours a day is ‘ruining lives.’ As other countries push SNS age limits, will reluctant Japan finally change? | NEWSjp – Kyodo News

    Published 2026/09/17 10:40:00

    Updated 2026/09/08 19:02:15

    Source: news.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:00
    How did people even broadcast stuff about themselves back in the Showa era?
    There was no social media, right?
    No LINE, no internet?
    What was life even like?
    100AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:28
    Re: #2
    You'd submit stuff to Champ Road (a biker/delinquent culture magazine).

    Only fix is going back to the days of 'packet death' (huge phone bills from per-byte data charges) lol

    Re: #26
    Back when MMOs were at their peak, tons of people dropped out of school, quit their jobs, or became shut-ins.
    Before holidays or long weekends, people would go two days straight without sleep just gaming.
    Smartphones are even more addictive than PCs since you don't need to be stuck in one spot to use them.
    132AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:57
    Re: #2
    What does a kid even need to broadcast?
    3AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:01
    Restrict by intelligence, not age.

    Restrict by intelligence, not age.

    Restrict by intelligence, not age.
    54AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:36
    Re: #3
    How would you feel if someone told you, 'Based on your intelligence, you get 30 minutes a day'?
    161AnonymousSep 17, 2026 14:19
    Re: #2
    Re: #3
    Well, at least if they're online at home, they won't drown in the sea or a river.

    lol
    13AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:07
    Aren't the lonely old geezers on 5ch pretty internet-dependent themselves?

    They say 'I like being alone!'
    but really they're just using the internet to fill the emptiness of their loneliness.
    14AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:08
    Re: #13
    Well, rambling on here is basically the same as social media anyway lol
    60AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:43
    Re: #13
    Both old and young are internet-dependent.

    As for 'liking being alone,' the causation is backwards.
    It's because the internet is so fulfilling
    that people can casually say they like being alone.
    160AnonymousSep 17, 2026 14:17
    Re: #13
    Because there's nothing else to do
    17AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:10
    Well, we used to play online games 20 hours a day too, and we turned out fine, so it's probably not a big deal.
    18AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:10
    Us Showa-era kids
    spent plenty of time on TV, games, manga, and the like too.
    26AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:13
    Re: #17
    That's only possible if you're unemployed.
    I think 10 hours a day is abnormal for a kid who still has school.

    Re: #18
    Between studying and everything else, 10 hours on a hobby isn't realistic.
    You'd have to be unemployed!
    48AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:30
    Re: #18
    'Did you watch that show?' 'Did you play that game?' 'Did you read that manga?' — those were the things that got conversations with friends going.
    Smartphones don't give you that shared experience.
    106AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:30
    Re: #18
    At least back then kids weren't stealing their parents' credit cards to spend on gacha just to feel strong in some mobile game — that's still better.
    Plus, buy-to-play games actually made you use your head a bit.
    31AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:17
    Re: #26
    Going by the article, I got hooked in middle school but didn't actually break 10 hours a day until college,
    so depending on your class schedule that's within the realm of possibility.

    Looking at the graph in the article, the 2025 average internet usage time is
    about 4 hours for elementary schoolers and over 6.5 hours for high schoolers… well, that does seem like a lot.
    40AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:22
    Re: #31
    Guess it's doable if you're in college.
    I was pretty hooked on games back then too, but I also had a part-time job, so I never averaged 10 hours…

    Re: #33
    Well, there's only one Grandmaster like that in the whole world…
    33AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:17
    But then again, Magnus Carlsen lived a childhood soaked in online chess and became the strongest grandmaster in the world.
    39AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:21
    Studying with a smartphone around must be tough.
    The moment you look something up on your phone while studying, that's game over.
    And once you think 'let me just ask an AI,' you end up using it for everything else too.
    Minors should just be banned from having smartphones altogether.
    41AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:23
    Re: #39
    There are serious kids who actually use smartphone apps to study, though.
    They're pretty handy for things like memorizing vocabulary.

    It really depends on how you use it.
    55AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:36
    Re: #48
    That's exactly it — trending topics and videos on social media,
    or playing multiplayer games together —
    that's what kids today are having fun with.
    If anything, not having a smartphone gets you left out of the group.
    90AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:22
    Re: #55
    So the topic is social media after all.
    How dumb.
    62AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:46
    Re: #60
    That's not liking being alone —
    that's just someone who can't build real relationships with actual people
    but is secretly starved for company.
    69AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:50
    Re: #62
    Exactly. People who are fundamentally bad at human relationships.
    Thanks to how fulfilling the internet has become,
    those people can now live comfortably alone
    without having to push themselves.
    63AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:46
    And yet you don't see many posts from Generation Alpha on 5ch, do you?

    Calling it 'internet' addiction when all they're doing is bickering endlessly on some app with the same classmates they see every day at school
    is kind of a stretch.
    It's creepy, like some gross little kid getting excited over an email from Mommy.
    70AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:51
    Re: #63
    It's a bunch of pathetic, lonely old men clustered together on 5ch,
    so what's even fun about talking to people like that?
    Normal people, especially younger ones, naturally stay away.

    Even I only stick to this news board
    because it's convenient for skimming headlines
    and seeing how a bunch of people react to them.
    72AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:53
    Re: #69
    But when people like that get old, or sick, or injured,
    and their daily life becomes difficult,
    the internet won't be enough to fill the emptiness of loneliness anymore,
    and they'll probably plunge straight into despair.
    76AnonymousSep 17, 2026 11:56
    Re: #72
    It's hard for the internet generation to even feel lonely.
    It's completely different from the pre-internet era.
    Even alone, things like AI can fill
    that gap in your heart.
    77AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:02
    Re: #76
    That only works because you're currently healthy and young.
    Once your body or your daily life becomes restricted,
    the anxiety and fear of loneliness will hit you all at once.
    Thinking that the internet's fake connections
    will keep soothing that emptiness even then
    is way too naive.
    92AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:23
    Re: #77
    I read that elderly suicide is actually more common among those living with family
    than among those living alone.
    I mean, kids and grandkids don't really want to deal with a frail, gloomy old person either.
    Being lonely within a group is brutal.

    Well, at least living alone means you avoid ending up as a decomposing corpse nobody finds.
    102AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:28
    Wouldn't this solve it? Might count as abuse, but—
    if a kid's going to play a game, don't let them stop until they beat it completely.
    Force them to keep going even if they say they're tired or sleepy.
    108AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:33
    Re: #102
    There are games that take over 1,000 hours to fully clear —
    are you actually prepared to be a responsible parent through that?
    Why don't you try staying awake without sleep until you clear Spectral Tower II yourself first.
    119AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:40
    Re: #102
    With pay-to-win gacha games, there's no 'full clear' — the closest thing is the servers shutting down once enough gambling-addicted whales stop paying.
    109AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:33
    10 hours makes you a burnout case, so don't even bother with them.
    Anyone using it that long is genuinely sick.
    115AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:39
    Re: #109
    Bet this guy manspreads on the train
    150AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:51
    Re: #109
    No, leaving it be is dangerous — you've gotta finish it off properly
    154AnonymousSep 17, 2026 14:03
    Smart people don't use social media, regardless of age.
    157AnonymousSep 17, 2026 14:05
    Re: #154
    I don't think of myself as smart, but I don't use social media at all.
    It's a waste of time, and I don't get what's fun about putting your own info and photos out on the internet.
    170AnonymousSep 17, 2026 14:35
    Re: #154
    On the flip side, isn't 5ch itself full of exactly the kind of pathetic old men
    who'd make you ask, 'who's even interested in you'?
    199AnonymousSep 17, 2026 15:20
    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81f+cKFIu2L.jpg

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    According to the article, as of 2025 children’s daily internet use averages about 4 hours for elementary schoolers and exceeds 6.5 hours for high schoolers, and while other countries are moving to impose age limits on social media use, negative attitudes toward regulation remain entrenched in Japan. What split opinion in the thread was how to judge these usage figures. Some defended it, arguing that ‘kids in the Showa era were just as absorbed in TV and games,’ while others pointed out that back then such media sparked conversations with friends, whereas smartphone content differs from person to person and rarely creates that same shared experience. It’s worth noting that posts flatly labeling long usage ‘abnormal’ or ‘sick’ ended up tying the discussion to the loneliness and internet dependence of elderly users, pulling the conversation away from the original topic of children.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread ‘Children’s internet addiction reaches crisis levels… 10+ hours a day is ‘ruining lives.’ As other countries push SNS age limits, will reluctant Japan finally change?‘.

  • 53.1% Say They’d Get Vaccinated for the Next Pandemic — 5ch: ‘LOL, It’s All Guinea Pigs’

    A research group from the University of Tokyo’s International Institute for Advanced Studies (Center for New-Generation Infectious Diseases) and Chiba University, among others, published survey results in the international scientific journal “npj Vaccines,” asking 24,577 people whether they would get vaccinated if a vaccine reducing death risk from the next pandemic by 50% or more were approved by the Japanese government and the WHO. 53.1% answered they would “definitely or probably get vaccinated,” with people in their 20s-40s, women, and those with lower income or education showing a tendency toward lower vaccination intent. On 5ch, opinions split over the validity of this analysis and the assessment of COVID vaccine effectiveness, with notable pushback against the framing that links education level to conspiracy theories.

    The paper “Vaccine acceptance in a future pandemic after COVID-19 and its decision drivers in Japan,” published in the international scientific journal “npj Vaccines” by a research group from the University of Tokyo’s International Institute for Advanced Studies (Center for New-Generation Infectious Diseases) and Chiba University, is a study investigating vaccination intent for a future pandemic and the factors that shape it.

    The research team analyzed data from the health disparities assessment study “JACSIS.” An online survey was conducted from December 2024 to January 2025, targeting 28,000 people aged 15 to 84 (24,577 were included in the final analysis).

    Respondents were asked whether they would get vaccinated under the scenario that “the next pandemic occurs, a vaccine reducing death risk from the disease by 50% or more is developed, and it is approved by the Japanese government, the World Health Organization (WHO), and other authorities.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    12AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:43
    > The survey found lower vaccination intent among people in their 20s-40s, women, low-income people, less-educated people, and those who believe vaccine misinformation or COVID conspiracy theories.

    This part is clearly propaganda. It's not a scientific paper, it's a political one.
    34AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:46
    Re: #12
    The source article has the data in it.
    Hard to read, but here you go

    https://imgur.com/a/jFkM2nM
    74AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:52
    Re: #12
    Being highly educated just means you're obedient to the system.
    (・∀・)ニヤニヤ (a smug, snickering kaomoji face)
    18AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:44
    More importantly, what's happening with the flu vaccine? It's already spreading this year, so I thought there was talk of moving the rollout up.
    130AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:59
    Re: #18
    They're even closing schools over it. Sounds like a nasty strain this year.
    23AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:45
    It's not about conspiracy theories — I just didn't feel like I needed it.
    54AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:49
    Re: #23
    Anthony Fauci flat-out admitted it was completely useless. Basically even the claim that it prevented severe illness was a lie.
    155AnonymousSep 17, 2026 14:01
    Re: #23
    Everyone knew that if you didn't get everyone vaccinated all at once, it would just keep mutating.
    44AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:48
    The premise itself is off. There's no way you can guarantee a 50%+ reduction in death risk.
    58AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:50
    Re: #44
    The COVID vaccine ("corowaku") was supposed to do even better than that — we were told getting vaccinated meant you wouldn't get severely ill.
    59AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:50
    Re: #44
    That's just what they claimed at the time. Whether it's actually truuue, you won't knowww until enough time has passed!
    46AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:48
    I'm unvaxxed ("no-waku"), so I probably won't get this one either.
    47AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:48
    https://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/article/image/2609/17/2000001533/10006664/1920
    If you look at the source image, the people who answered "definitely/probably will get it" are basically all guinea pigs, lol. Over 80% of the unvaccinated said "definitely/probably will not get it."
    51AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:49
    Isn't it just wrong to decide whether to get vaccinated or not without even knowing what disease you're dealing with?
    66AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:51
    Countries that vaccinated less than Japan still have COVID running rampant, right?

    Or did it just conveniently vanish on its own?
    80AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:53
    Re: #66
    It vanished, lol.
    139AnonymousSep 17, 2026 14:00
    Re: #66
    Viruses naturally weaken over time, so the strategy was supposed to be vaccinating high-risk people as a stopgap until that happened…

    I run my own clinic, so I have no choice but to keep giving the shot as cover for my patients (if I don't take precautions, rumors will kill my practice the moment there's an in-hospital outbreak).
    73AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:52
    Make sure you all keep getting your shots next time too.

    Sacrifice comes with the territory in human experimentation.
    88AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:54
    Re: #73
    Of course I'll keep telling people to get it next time too — obviously, right? Though I myself will never get it, lol.
    83AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:53
    There's no way it was just a coincidence that the vaccine got finished right as COVID started spreading.
    111AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:57
    Re: #83
    The US ran something called Operation Warp Speed — they paid out huge sums upfront to promising companies worldwide, no penalty if development failed, and let them race each other.
    150AnonymousSep 17, 2026 14:01
    Time to check the answer:



    Uptake of the "poison vaccine" kept declining.
    171AnonymousSep 17, 2026 14:03
    The more educated someone is, the stronger their spirit of self-sacrifice.
    185AnonymousSep 17, 2026 14:04
    Re: #171
    That's because they don't want to inconvenience others, lol.

    More like their stance is "if the government (oyakata-hinomaru, lit. 'boss Rising Sun' — slang for blind trust in the state) tells me to, I'll do it." Just my two cents, lol.
    225AnonymousSep 17, 2026 14:07
    Re: #171
    In the US, people who went all the way through a PhD program leaned heavily anti-vaccine. Apparently those who stopped at a master's degree were mostly pro-vaccine.
    196AnonymousSep 17, 2026 14:05
    People who don't get vaccinated will go extinct eventually.
    227AnonymousSep 17, 2026 14:08
    Re: #196
    People who got the COVID vaccine are guaranteed to be extinct in 100 years, but the unvaccinated will still be around in 100 years…

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    This survey asked about vaccination intent under the hypothetical scenario that “a vaccine reducing death risk from the next pandemic by 50% or more has been approved” — it is not data verifying the actual effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccines that were distributed. Skipping over this premise creates a mismatch between the many “the COVID vaccine was useless” claims seen on 5ch and the paper’s actual point, leaving the discussion talking past itself. The thread was also split over the validity of the paper’s finding that “people with less education and lower income are more likely to believe misinformation and conspiracy theories, and thus show lower vaccination intent” — pushback framing this as social labeling clashed with those who saw it as a legitimate public health insight. It’s worth noting that posts claiming things like “vaccinated people will die in the near future” are all claims with no scientific backing, and the comments quoted in this article are presented only as individual opinions.

    *This article is compiled as excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[Would You Get Vaccinated for the Next Pandemic?] Survey of Over 20,000 Japanese People — 53.1% Say ‘Definitely/Probably Will’.”

  • HIV Outbreak Prompts State of Emergency in Fiji — 5ch: ‘Expensive Drugs Can Suppress Onset’

    The South Pacific island nation of Fiji has declared a national state of emergency over a growing HIV outbreak. An estimated 1 in 60 adults is infected, putting Fiji sharply at odds with the global trend of declining new HIV infections. The scale of the crisis came to light after the country first declared an epidemic in January 2025 and expanded testing. The spread of methamphetamine has been cited as a contributing factor, and on the forum thread many commenters pointed to shared needles and blood during drug use as the likely cause, while others discussed sexual transmission and mother-to-child transmission — with some exchanges reaffirming that HIV still cannot be fully cured.

    (CNN) — The small South Pacific nation of Fiji has declared a national state of emergency amid a spreading HIV outbreak, with the proliferation of methamphetamine cited as a contributing factor.

    Fiji, with a population of under one million, is estimated to have HIV infection in 1 in every 60 adults. While the virus remains incurable but treatable, global infection rates have been falling — a trend Fiji is bucking.

    Fiji first declared an HIV epidemic in January 2025, and expanded testing since then has revealed the scale of a deepening public health crisis.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    11AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:25
    Just a matter of time before the virus reaches Japan
    143AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:55
    Re: #11
    It's probably already here
    18AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:27
    Apparently people who can't afford meth are drawing blood from people who've used it and injecting it into themselves — messed up situation
    59AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:35
    Re: #18
    Surely that wouldn't even get you high though?
    113AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:45
    Re: #18
    Are they even matching blood types?
    152AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:59
    Re: #18
    😨😨😨
    This is way beyond just needing better education
    24AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:28
    Wait, is methamphetamine the same as ecstasy? Did everyone just turn into ravers ("パリピ" = party people)?
    67AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:36
    Re: #24
    Ecstasy (MDMA) is a derivative of methamphetamine, but its psychoactive effects are quite different
    33AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:30
    Re: #1
    Wait, is it curable now?
    41AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:31
    Re: #33
    It's not curable, but taking expensive medication continuously can suppress the onset of symptoms.
    53AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:33
    Re: #1
    That's rough
    What happened there
    I thought HIV was supposed to be curable these days
    But the damage must still be huge
    168AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:05
    Re: #53,65
    Isn't the cause the same as that Kiribati "Korekore" thing? (Korekore is a Japanese livestreamer known for on-the-street exposés)
    54AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:34
    Re: #41
    Huh, so it's still not curable
    80AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:39
    Re: #54
    Apparently there have been cases where someone being treated for leukemia received a bone marrow transplant from a donor with a rare mutation that confers HIV resistance, and ended up cured of HIV as a side effect
    86AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:40
    Re: #80
    So the structure of the blood itself changes then
    106AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:44
    Re: #80
    I think organ or bone marrow transplants can normalize various abnormalities, but that just means it's bringing about a huge change to the body
    Transplant surgery itself carries major risk to begin with
    Being able to accept a new organ at all is basically a special talent
    Some percentage of people just die
    93AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:41
    Is there a symptom that strongly suggests HIV infection? If anyone's been through it, let me know
    96AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:42
    Re: #93
    If symptoms are showing, that's already AIDS
    104AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:44
    Re: #93

    Apparently infected people all get thirsty after eating and their heart rate goes up after intense exercise
    101AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:44
    Re: #96
    That's literally what they're asking — what the actual symptoms are
    125AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:49
    Re: #101
    I kind of recall hearing from someone with HIV that if you walk up a staircase and end up on the floor above, or if you open the fridge and the door opens, you're quite likely infected with HIV
    102AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:44
    They say AIDS is caused by a virus.
    So there should be an mRNA vaccine for it by now.

    But you don't really hear about one.
    Why is that? The market size should be huge.
    127AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:49
    Re: #102
    Because it's a disease that doesn't touch people in power
    171AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:07
    Apparently it's from reusing needles
    175AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:09
    Re: #171
    Nobody asked for such a boring truth

    Background and Discussion Points

    Fiji, a South Pacific island nation with a population under one million, first declared an HIV epidemic in January 2025, and expanded testing since then has revealed the severity of the outbreak. While new HIV infections are declining globally, Fiji is bucking that trend, with needle-sharing tied to the spread of methamphetamine cited as a contributing factor. On the thread, more commenters pointed to blood exchanged during drug use than to sexual transmission as the likely cause, and the article’s figure that 59 infants contracted the virus through mother-to-child transmission last year also drew attention. At the same time, some baseless assumptions singling out sexual orientation, region, or nationality appeared as well — these unfounded prejudices should be read separately from the article-based point about needle-sharing during meth use. It’s also easy to overlook that HIV still cannot be cured today; the standard approach remains medication that suppresses symptom onset rather than a cure.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “[International] Fiji Declares National State of Emergency Over HIV Outbreak — 1 in 60 Adults Infected.”

  • Ramen chain Yamaokaya’s ‘garlic overload’ controversy: Where’s the line for damage claims, even when it’s free?

    Footage of customers dumping huge amounts of free table-side garlic into their bowls at ramen chain Yamaokaya has gone viral, and after the chain responded that the garlic “should only be used within common-sense limits for enjoying the food,” 5ch users split into camps over whether a free side item can still get a customer kicked out or hit with a damage claim. Defenders argued “what’s wrong with adding as much as you want for free — if they have a problem, they should just cap it in advance,” while critics countered that “free perks keep shrinking because of the small number of customers who don’t understand common sense.” Commenters also pointed to past cases like beni shoga (red pickled ginger) at beef bowl chains and all-you-can-use grated cheese at family restaurants, both of which eventually disappeared.

    Ramen Chain Yamaokaya’s “Table-Side Garlic” Overload Sparks Controversy — Even When It’s “Free,” Where’s the Line for a “Removal Order” or “Damage Claim”? [Lawyer’s Explanation] | Bengoshi JP News

    Bengoshi JP News Editorial Team

    September 17, 2026, 09:57

    Source: jisin.jp / Original article here

    10AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:34
    Raw garlic is actually toxic, you know
    Eat a ton of it and you'll d●e
    18AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:35
    Re: #10
    If you go to a Jiro-style ramen shop (huge garlic-loaded portions), you get the runs, right?
    20AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:36
    Re: #10
    It won't kill you outright, but it wrecks your gut microbiome (gut flora), leading to constipation, diarrhea, and a weaker immune system — not that anyone doing this is thinking that far ahead
    85AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:45
    Re: #10
    Raw green onions in big amounts will give you the runs too
    26AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:36
    What's wrong with adding as much as you want for free?
    If they have a problem with it, they should just set a limit beforehand
    What's the point of complaining after the fact?

    To the people going on about 'manners' —
    do you also complain about people piling tons of beni shoga (red pickled ginger) on their beef bowl?
    Do you complain about people dumping a ton of shichimi (seven-spice chili powder) on their food too?

    The 'manners police' are the weird ones here
    Why can't they see that?
    51AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:39
    They responded, '[Garlic] should only be used within common-sense limits so it's still enjoyable to eat.'

    Expecting common sense from Japanese people these days is asking too much
    100AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:47
    Re: #51
    Guess we've got more and more people who are 'an adult's body, a child's mind!' these days… (a riff on Detective Conan's catchphrase)
    146AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:53
    Re: #51
    'The range where it's still enjoyable' is just going to vary person to person, no?
    I don't even use garlic myself, but if it's a problem the store should just post a limit
    Japan's media really is churning out more pointless articles lately
    314AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:14
    Re: #51
    Lol, talking like Japanese people used to have such great manners
    when flicking cigarette butts on the street and blatant harassment were totally normal back then
    64AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:41
    The beni shoga (red pickled ginger) thing is way worse than this
    130AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:51
    Re: #64
    Well, this kind of person exists too…

    87AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:45
    95AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:46
    Filing a damage claim over garlic…

    how low is your boiling point
    there's a limit to being short-tempered
    what kind of parents raise someone that petty (lit. 'small-assed')
    105AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:47
    Re: #95
    Suing for damages over 600 yen
    101AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:47
    Services keep shrinking because of idiots who can't grasp 'within common sense'
    109AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:48
    Re: #101
    It's not like you'd be inconvenienced if they limited the garlic
    116AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:48
    Re: #101
    There's only a handful of idiots like that, so I think dealing with them individually (a knuckle sandwich, so to speak) is enough
    Going straight to a blanket ban feels extreme too
    154AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:54
    Wait, isn't it not actually 'free' to begin with?
    It's not free, it's included in the price

    Do unlimited rice refills, all-you-can-drink, or all-you-can-eat deals have limits?
    Well, you're not supposed to leave food uneaten, but still
    168AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:55
    Re: #154
    True, if it's really free I'd just eat the garlic alone and leave lol
    174AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:56
    Re: #154
    Yeah, exactly
    If you filmed yourself ordering nothing and just eating the garlic before leaving, that'd basically be dine-and-dash footage
    176AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:56
    Re: #154
    Idiots just don't have the reading comprehension to get that far
    200AnonymousSep 17, 2026 12:59
    Used to dump a whole can of grated cheese on my food at family restaurants back in the day
    These days they don't even leave the cheese cans out, and they won't hand you one even with dishes that'd call for it
    233AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:03
    Re: #200
    That's exactly because of people like you lol
    251AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:05
    Re: #200
    I remember an essay manga by Kinoruu (樹るう) where she shakes grated cheese from a family restaurant can onto her food and notices little black 'sesame seeds' mixed in
    thinking it might be someone's prank, she looks inside the can — and the black specks are all squirming around
    219AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:01
    I don't want to be the one spelling out something so unsubtle, but
    do they really have to post a sign saying 'garlic limited to 2 scoops'?
    228AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:02
    Re: #219
    They should just write that
    and let people keep their own tube of garlic at the shop
    like a bottle-keep at a bar (where regulars store their own bottle for later)
    241AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:04
    Re: #219
    Judging from the video
    it was only about two heaping soup-spoons' worth
    honestly, nowhere near a shockingly huge amount
    229AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:02
    These days hotels don't leave toothbrushes and toothpaste in every room anymore
    you have to go grab them yourself at the front desk, which is a real pain when you're already loaded down with luggage

    that's because foreign tourists were taking all the amenities, so hotels stopped leaving them in rooms individually
    stuff like this really does seem to be happening because of the rise in foreign visitors, and honestly it's so lame
    279AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:09
    Re: #229
    It's because counting and setting them out individually is a hassle

    Leaving them all together on a cart actually leads to higher consumption
    since some people just grab a huge stack
    254AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:06
    I'll pass on Chinese-grown garlic
    it's less than half the price of domestic, but it scares me too much to buy
    286AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:10
    Re: #254
    80% of the garlic consumed worldwide is grown in China
    the 'garlic flavor' in processed foods is Chinese garlic
    and most of the garlic used in the restaurant industry is probably Chinese too
    313AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:14
    Re: #254
    Chinese garlic is actually the better match for ramen, you know?
    the Japanese stuff is too pungent and kind of underwhelming
    262AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:06
    There was that singer who used to brag about piling tons of beni shoga on their beef bowl
    they lost popularity after that, didn't they
    269AnonymousSep 17, 2026 13:08
    Re: #262
    Way too cheap-looking (lit. 'smells poor')
    even if you genuinely love it that much, better to just keep quiet about it

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Free, all-you-can-use condiments like beni shoga (red pickled ginger), shichimi chili powder, and family-restaurant grated cheese have run into over-consumption problems before, leading shops to remove the containers or switch to individual packets — and Yamaokaya’s response fits that same pattern. The core question in this thread was whether “free” should be treated as synonymous with “unlimited,” and the shop’s phrase “within common-sense limits” captures that ambiguity perfectly. What’s easy to misunderstand is that even a free side item can still be grounds for a store to ask a customer to leave, or even to seek damages, based on the store’s management rights, if the behavior is judged to constitute business obstruction or actual harm — the size of the amount involved (some pointed to a sum as small as around 600 yen) has no direct bearing on the legal question. The thread also brought in side context, like the fact that Chinese-grown garlic accounts for the bulk of global supply, adding some substance beyond the usual internet flare-up.

    *This article is composed as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “Ramen Chain Yamaokaya’s “Table-Side Garlic” Overload Sparks Controversy — Even When It’s “Free,” Where’s the Line for a “Removal Order” or “Damage Claim”?.”