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  • Tokyo-Area Condo Prices Hit Record ¥164.93 Million Average — 5ch Asks “Who Can Even Afford This?”

    The average price of new condominiums in the greater Tokyo area jumped 63.7% year-on-year to ¥164.93 million, while Tokyo’s 23 wards rose 96% to ¥265.20 million — both record highs. On 5ch, posters cried out with “Who can even afford this?” and “Only investors and the rich can live there now,” while others pointed to a Canadian investment fund’s ¥100 billion bulk purchase and asset inflation driven by the government’s aggressive fiscal spending.

    The average price of new condominiums in the greater Tokyo area has topped ¥160 million, setting a new record high. The average price in Tokyo’s 23 wards also hit a new record, reaching ¥265.20 million.

    According to the Real Estate Economic Institute, the average price of new condominiums sold in the greater Tokyo area in July rose 63.7% year-on-year to ¥164.93 million — the highest since records began.

    Within that, Tokyo’s 23 wards saw a 96% increase to ¥265.20 million, also a new record high.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:03:34.25
    Might just sell my used condo and move back in with my parents.
    195!dungareen2026/08/20 (Thu) 22:59:49.06
    Re: #3
    That's the way to go.
    I already sold mine and retired early (FIRE — Financial Independence, Retire Early).
    Living it up every day in a cool mountain retreat.
    5Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:05:35.48
    Cheaper than I expected, honestly.
    Guess that's still about right.
    15Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:15:28.44
    Re: #5
    That's a 96% jump.
    Go ahead, keep buying up.
    9Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:07:51.64
    Only investors and rich people can afford to live there now — hurry up and crash already.
    18Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:17:34.41
    Civil servants who whine about 'life being tough' with a straight face while quietly taking out a mortgage on their own home
    https://rio2016.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/koumu/1724138468/
    26Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:25:47.45
    Re: #18
    Life is tough, sure, but
    I got my own home anyway.

    It's a detached house, so I'm living comfortably.
    148Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 22:24:28.43
    Re: #18
    Well, life is tough whether you're a civil servant or work in the private sector.
    21Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:20:57.31
    If you'd just move a little farther out, you could live in a mansion.
    24Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:23:27.19
    Re: #21
    'Chiba-verly Hills,' huh (a joking nickname for pricier Chiba suburbs, punning on 'Beverly Hills').
    22Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:21:15.24
    There must be enough people who can afford it if that's the price, right?
    What's the actual problem?
    25Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:25:37.38
    Re: #22
    The problem is I'm not one of those people.
    31Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:27:20.06
    There are probably idiots out there taking out 50-year mortgages in their 20s for this, right?
    44Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:31:43.58
    Re: #31
    Well, maxing out a mortgage and investing whatever's left over is the more profitable move.
    Are you too broke to understand how interest rates work?
    47Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:33:35.57
    Re: #44
    Excuse me?
    Don't talk nonsense to me — I hold a Level 1 Certified Financial Planner license (Japan's top-tier FP qualification).
    61Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:37:56.43
    Re: #44
    Under [PM] Takaichi's aggressive fiscal spending,
    the winners are whoever borrows money and buys land.
    Kind of like the old bubble era…
    36Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:28:49.76
    Feels like it was just last year that breaking ¥100 million was the big news lol
    45Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:31:43.90
    Re: #36
    There's also news that new detached houses are actually the cheaper option now.

    'New detached houses in Tokyo's 23 wards holding steady in the ¥90 million range — seen as a bargain versus condos, driving demand'
    Products
    August 12, 2026, 11:00
    [Subscriber-only article]
    https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOUB067XB0W6A800C2000000/

    There was a thread about this on 5ch.io a little while back too:

    '[Tokyo's 23 Wards] New detached houses holding at ¥90 million range — seen as a bargain versus condos' [Nomi no Ichi★ — a regular handle used by 5ch's automated news-thread poster]
    https://asahi.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1786501861/
    46Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:31:48.44
    What is going on with this?
    Who can even afford this?
    Regulate it like Singapore does.
    55Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:36:04.16
    Re: #46
    It's because foreign firms are buying it up as a business.
    Gotta hand it to them, pretty sharp.

    'Canadian fund buys up 50 domestic condo buildings in bulk for ¥100 billion, moving into the rental market'
    Financial institutions
    August 14, 2026, 18:00 [Paid subscriber-only article]
    https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOUB302N90Q6A730C2000000/

    Inflows of overseas investment money into Japan's housing market continue.
    Canadian investment fund Brookfield recently bought up rental condominiums across the four major metro areas in bulk for over ¥100 billion.
    Some see the price surge as topping out, but the fund expects resilient demand amid an inflationary economy.

    Brookfield is one of the world's leading infrastructure and real estate investment funds.
    It has previously invested in properties like Dentsu Group's headquarters building in Shiodome, Tokyo, but this marks its first move into Japan's residential market.
    171Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 22:43:32.93
    Re: #46
    Only fools hold these as individual owners anymore.
    Less than half the units in buildings like this are actually lived in.
    The rooms sell fine, but since they're investment units the buildings are hollow inside.
    The management association can never agree on anything, so you can guess how that ends up.
    63Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:38:40.35
    The more the population shrinks, the more it concentrates in the greater Tokyo area.
    Sure, ¥200 million could build you a mansion out in the countryside, but 20 or 30 years from now when you go to sell, a Tokyo place could easily fetch ¥300-400 million.
    A countryside mansion, at best, is worth next to nothing — worst case, you end up paying just to get rid of it.
    70Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:40:47.79
    Re: #63
    You think a tower condo in Kitasenju (a once-working-class Tokyo neighborhood that's become trendy) is going to skyrocket or something?
    74Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:41:35.21
    Re: #70
    It will.
    Check back in 20 years.
    80Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 21:42:24.37
    Re: #74
    It didn't hold up last time, during the bubble era.
    150Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 22:27:11.26
    Still, everyone wants to live in Tokyo.
    Prefectures People Want to Live In, 2026 ranking

    'Ii Heya Net Livability & Desired-to-Live-In Towns Ranking 2026 (Prefecture Edition)' released
    August 19, 2026

    https://www.kentaku.co.jp/news/survey/2026/sumicoco_todofuken2026.html

    153Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 22:29:25.20
    'Ii Heya Net Livability & Desired-to-Live-In Towns Ranking 2026 (Prefecture Edition)' released
    August 19, 2026

    Livability Ranking 2026
    Prefecture ranking

    https://www.kentaku.co.jp/news/survey/2026/sumicoco_todofuken2026.html

    160Anonymous2026/08/20 (Thu) 22:34:05.96
    Re: #153
    Made it into the top 10 lol

    Background and Key Points

    The Real Estate Economic Institute (Fudōsan Keizai Kenkyūjo) is the private research body Japanese media treats as the authoritative source on new condominium supply and pricing, publishing monthly averages for “greater Tokyo” (Tokyo plus Kanagawa, Saitama, and Chiba) and separately for the 23 special wards. At roughly ¥150/$1, ¥164.93 million is about $1.1 million, and the 23-ward figure of ¥265.20 million is roughly $1.77 million — extraordinary sums against Japan’s median household income, which is why “who can afford this” reads as more than hyperbole. The spending PM Takaichi cited in the thread refers to fiscal stimulus that, alongside a weak yen and years of near-zero rates, has pushed both domestic and foreign capital into hard assets like real estate.

    Where the thread actually diverges is not over whether prices are high — everyone agrees on that — but over whether this is a rational, leverageable opportunity (the posters urging 50-year mortgages and “invest the rest” logic) or an unsustainable, foreign-fund-driven distortion that should be curbed the way Singapore taxes non-resident buyers.

    What the thread never addresses is that these are averages, not medians, and new-condo averages are unusually sensitive to product mix: a shrinking number of new launches concentrated in premium central-ward towers can drag the average up sharply even if prices for ordinary units haven’t moved nearly as much. So a 96% year-on-year jump likely reflects what got built and sold this year — fewer, more luxurious projects — as much as it reflects across-the-board appreciation, a distinction the posters’ outrage glosses over entirely.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “Greater Tokyo’s July New Condo Prices Hit Record ¥164.93 Million Average — 23 Wards at ¥265.20 Million.”

  • Four rail workers killed on Tobu Nikko Line — Japanese forums question why two were listed as “occupation unknown”

    After a limited express train struck and killed four track workers on the Tobu Nikko Line in Kanuma City, Tochigi Prefecture, users on 5channel (Japan’s largest anonymous forum) raised questions about why two of the four victims were reported as having an “unknown occupation.” Discussion also centered on how the workers failed to evacuate even though a lookout had waved a flag and the train had sounded its horn, as well as the fact that two of the four victims lived together at the same residence in Utsunomiya.

    Identities of four workers killed after being struck by limited express train on Tobu Nikko Line tracks confirmed — Kanuma City, Tochigi

    Police announced tonight that the identities of the four deceased have been confirmed.

    The four are Kazuyoshi Ishikawa (67) and Toshihiko Watanabe (65), both of unknown occupation, who lived together at a residence in Kamiozo, Utsunomiya; Shigenobu Ōge (53), of unknown occupation, from Tega, Nikko City; and company employee Kazuya Sato (54), from Kiwatajima, Nikko City.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / original article here

    12AnonymousAug 20, 2026 20:47
    Don't tell me they were using Timee (a Japanese gig-work app for booking same-day temp jobs) for this…
    28AnonymousAug 20, 2026 20:52
    Re: #12
    There was apparently a Timee listing for it
    17AnonymousAug 20, 2026 20:48
    A 67-year-old and a 65-year-old living together in the same house… what's the relationship there?
    26AnonymousAug 20, 2026 20:50
    Hold on, the law requires a lookout or guard to be posted whenever this kind of work is done.
    So what was the guy in that role even doing?
    32AnonymousAug 20, 2026 20:53
    Re: #26
    In the accident where the limited express Spacia X No. 2 struck and killed four male workers at Shin-Kanuma Station on the Tobu Nikko Line on the morning of the 20th, Tobu Railway told reporters that the work lookout had signaled the driver with a flag, and the driver had sounded the horn in response. It appears the workers were unable to evacuate for some reason.

    According to Tobu Railway, when weeding or other work is done on the tracks, the lookout is supposed to signal with a flag that work is underway whenever a train approaches. This time too, a green flag was raised, and the driver sounded the horn to confirm the flag had been seen.
    59AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:00
    People are blaming the lookout, but
    the lookout is only told to wave a flag when a train comes.
    They're not actually obligated to ensure the safety of the workers on site,
    and they probably aren't paid enough to carry that kind of responsibility anyway.
    63AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:01
    Re: #59
    If you're getting paid, give it your all.
    165AnonymousAug 21, 2026 00:11
    Re: #59
    Wasn't the lookout supposed to be a Tobu employee though?
    If even they don't take accident prevention seriously, the poor Timee workers can't exactly trust them with their lives.
    92AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:16
    So the people who can't spare a thought for others' lives and happiness are the ones sitting at the top of society.
    93fusianasan (a legendary 5ch screen name — using it was once a 'trap' that could expose the poster's real identity, so it's now a running joke handle)Aug 20, 2026 21:17
    Re: #92
    。゚(゚´Д`゚)゚。 (a crying kaomoji)
    94AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:17
    Re: #92
    Have you never heard of Keidanren? (Japan's powerful business lobby, the Japan Business Federation)
    112AnonymousAug 20, 2026 21:44
    The line about them 'living together at a residence' isn't in the linked article anymore, is it? Did they delete it?
    122AnonymousAug 20, 2026 22:12
    674 Anonymous Donburako 2026/08/20(木) 21:58:56.28 ID:9mFOTBza0

    You're right.

    (Before edit) The four are Kazuyoshi Ishikawa (67) and Toshihiko Watanabe (65), both of unknown occupation, who lived together at a residence in Kamiozo, Utsunomiya; Shigenobu Ōge (53), of unknown occupation, from Tega, Nikko City; and company employee Kazuya Sato (54), from Kiwatajima, Nikko City.

    (After edit) The four are Kazuyoshi Ishikawa (67) and Toshihiko Watanabe (65), both of unknown occupation, from Kamiozo, Utsunomiya; Shigenobu Ōge (53), of unknown occupation, from Tega, Nikko City; and company employee Kazuya Sato (54), from Kiwatajima, Nikko City.
    126fusianasanAug 20, 2026 22:21
    Re: #112
    Re: #122
    Whaaat……

    This is TBS (a major Japanese TV network/news outlet) we're talking about……
    125AnonymousAug 20, 2026 22:20
    Isn't track work usually done at night?
    128fusianasanAug 20, 2026 22:23
    Re: #125
    That's what I thought too.

    11 AM, in broad daylight, really?
    127AnonymousAug 20, 2026 22:22
    Even if they weren't directly employed by Tobu, they were still track maintenance workers, lol.
    Why report it as 'unknown occupation'?
    129fusianasanAug 20, 2026 22:24
    Re: #127
    There must be some dark secret they really don't want to say.
    149AnonymousAug 20, 2026 23:23
    What could 'unable to evacuate for some reason' actually mean?
    Let's list out the possible factors.
    One each, everybody.
    153AnonymousAug 20, 2026 23:28
    Re: #149
    Maybe no flag was actually waved and no horn actually sounded.
    155fusianasanAug 20, 2026 23:33
    Re: #149
    Maybe there actually was no lookout at all.
    154AnonymousAug 20, 2026 23:29
    Is JR the only company where a driver involved in a fatal accident gets a week off to protect their mental health?
    160AnonymousAug 20, 2026 23:47
    Re: #154
    Private railways don't have such a soft rule.
    Tobu even has a hardcore driver who's been in two fatal accidents on the same train.

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s private railways maintain track safety through a manual “lookout” (見張員) system: before scheduled maintenance, a designated worker waves a flag when a train approaches, and the driver sounds the horn to confirm the signal was seen — there is no automated track-closure or blocking device involved, unlike systems used on some Shinkansen lines. Tobu Railway, like most private operators, also uses subcontracted labor for routine work such as weeding and vegetation clearance along the right-of-way, and increasingly this labor is sourced through same-day gig-work apps like Timee, which some posters suspected was used here. “Occupation unknown” in Japanese police-blotter reporting typically just means the person had no listed employer at the time of death — common for gig, freelance, or unemployed individuals — rather than implying anything suspicious, though the thread treated it as a red flag.

    The debate split less over what happened mechanically (posters largely accepted that a flag was waved and the horn sounded) and more over where responsibility lands: whether the lookout’s role legally extends beyond signaling to ensuring workers actually clear the tracks, or whether that duty is undefined and underpaid, especially if the lookout was a Tobu employee overseeing temp workers.

    What the thread never resolved is why a quiet edit removed the detail that two victims shared a residence, and readers unfamiliar with Japanese crash-reporting norms may not know that after fatal accidents, JR drivers get mandated leave for psychological recovery — a practice private lines like Tobu don’t uniformly follow, which colored the drift toward blaming systemic corner-cutting.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Hello! Project board) thread “The Mystery: Track Worker Hit by Tobu Line Train Was of ‘Unknown Occupation’.”