Category: Baseball

  • Giants Fall Short of Tigers, Settle for 2nd Place — 5ch: ‘Young Players Aren’t Developing At All’

    The Giants couldn’t close the gap with the Tigers, even in their head-to-head matchups, and the thread already had a resigned mood of just locking down 2nd place, with posts like “Might as well root for the Tigers too, just to keep 2nd safe.” Talk then shifted to comparing Japanese players’ home run totals over the years, with posters venting that — aside from Okamoto — Oshima and Sasaki’s 8 homers are the team’s best this season, and grumbling that the young players simply aren’t developing.

    1AnonymousAug 23, 2026 19:49
    Previous thread
    Giants Acting Manager 111
    6AnonymousAug 23, 2026 19:57
    Guess we should root for the Tigers too, just to lock down 2nd place…
    13AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:12
    Every runner was scrambling around in a panic, but it was just a routine 6-4-3 double play lol
    14AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:12
    It's the manager's fault for using up all his replay challenges already
    16AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:14
    Did Takahashi Haruto get hurt? Sounds like he's out next week?
    17AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:16
    At this point, the only way for the Giants to catch the Tigers is a miracle winning streak
    or sweeping every head-to-head matchup.
    19AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:17
    You'd have to be delusional to think a farm-team-level roster like this could pull off a comeback title lol
    Even a manager like Kudo couldn't do it lol
    23AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:19
    Re: #19
    And whose fault is it that the roster ended up like that?
    20AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:18
    Not when they're losing games like today's though
    21AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:18
    During the 'Make Legend' comeback, they won their last 7 head-to-head games against the Tigers (mockingly called 'Chin')
    to light up a reverse magic number of 2.
    27AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:24
    Re: #21
    Back then they had an absolute run-producer like 'Ogarami' (fan nickname for a pair of sluggers), but there's nobody like that this year, so yeah… forget it ('mou muri' — net slang for 'no way, I give up').
    22AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:19
    Where's the WACCHOI tag???????? (the anti-sockpuppet ID marker)
    Is some Tigers troll ('Chin-kasu') running this thread??????
    24AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:20
    The Tigers have two guys hitting .300 with 30 homers.
    For the Giants, if you limit it to Japanese players, Oshima and Sasaki's 8 homers are the best they've got.
    Has a Giants season ever ended with every Japanese position player stuck under 10 homers before?
    25AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:22
    Unagi (a player's nickname), please come back to us!
    61AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:52
    Re: #25
    Apparently he's too busy with nightly drinking parties with his patrons (tanimachi) to make it.
    26AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:23
    Since Nagano joined in 2010, the Giants haven't brought in a single college or corporate-league mid-to-long-range power hitter.
    29AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:25
    MAKI'S HERE ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!! (a classic 5ch celebratory meme)
    32AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:27
    Dokai, who was raking against the Giants the other day, isn't hitting at all now.
    33AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:28
    Games finished
    Orix 3-0 SoftBank
    Seibu 3-1 Rakuten
    Lotte 3-2 Nippon-Ham
    Hiroshima 3-2 Giants
    Chunichi 3-2 Yakult

    Still playing
    Tigers 3-2 DeNA

    Every winning team so far has scored exactly 3 runs
    34AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:30
    This is Yokohama Stadium (Hama-sta), but it's playing like Jingu Stadium (notoriously hitter-friendly).
    37AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:33
    Re: #34
    Jingu's actually got a good pitcher out there too, though…
    35AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:31
    Japanese players' HR totals excluding Okamoto

    2025: Richard 11, Kishida 8
    2024: Maru 14, Sakamoto 7
    2023: Sakamoto 22, Maru 18
    2022: Maru 27, Nakata 24
    2021: Maru 23, Sakamoto 19

    The young players aren't developing at all
    38AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:34
    Re: #35
    Nakata Sho really hit that many, huh…
    66AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:54
    Re: #35
    This is clearly on the guy who went from farm-team manager, to first-team head coach, to first-team manager!
    39AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:36
    If the season really ends with Oshima and Sasaki's 8 homers as the team's best, all you can do is laugh.
    40AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:36
    Iwasaki, Doris, (屮゚Д゚)屮 c'mooon!!
    43AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:38
    Re: #40
    Kudo's the one pitching, so he won't be used.
    41AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:36
    This is what happens when Yoshinobu (Takahashi) left nothing behind as manager.
    42AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:37
    Unless the Tigers pull their usual September collapse ('Chin moyu' — a meme for Hanshin fading late), this is hopeless.
    44AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:39
    For this year's draft, they should just take six college/corporate-league position players.
    No need to draft a single pitcher.
    45AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:39
    Hotta never became a Kinoshita or a Kudo, huh…
    47AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:40
    There isn't a single standout position player in this year's draft class.
    48AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:43
    Might be about time to start bringing players in from Korea or Taiwan.
    49AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:46
    Just bulk Pei's body up into solid muscle.
    Watching him today, he's clearly got batting talent.
    If he adds power, he could turn into a real slugger.
    51AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:48
    Guess they didn't set up WACCHOI for this thread.
    54AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:50
    Re: #51
    Without WACCHOI, people can sockpuppet all they want…
    57AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:50
    Re: #54
    Sockpuppeting's not cool though…
    59AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:51
    Without WACCHOI, it's nothing but sockpuppets.
    74AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:55
    Runner on 2nd, no outs — they can at least tie it up here, right?
    77AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:56
    Fujikawa's bullpen management is clearly off.
    Hard to believe he used to be a reliever himself.

    Background and Key Points

    The Yomiuri Giants and Hanshin Tigers are Nippon Professional Baseball’s oldest and fiercest rivalry, dating to the 1936 founding of Japan’s first pro league; head-to-head results between them carry outsized weight in the standings and in fan psychology all season. In NPB’s Central League, though, “settling for 2nd” isn’t a dead end the way it would be in a league with only one playoff spot — the top three finishers advance to the Climax Series, and 2nd- or 3rd-place teams have gone on to win the Japan Series before, so a runner-up finish still keeps a title alive, just through a harder bracket. The homer numbers posters cited (Maru and Sakamoto putting up 18-27 a year through 2021-23, versus Oshima and Sasaki’s 8 this year) track the erosion of the Giants’ Japanese-player power core now that Okamoto Kazuma is carrying the load essentially alone.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t optimism versus pessimism — nearly everyone conceded the pennant is out of reach — but where to place blame: the front office, for not drafting a college or corporate-league power hitter since 2010, versus the coaching staff, for promoting a manager up through the farm system without him developing anyone once in the majors.

    What outside readers may miss is that the one comeback precedent posters invoked, the Giants erasing a Tigers lead via a season-ending sweep, is a real and famous NPB moment — not idle nostalgia — which is why even resigned fans keep half-mentioning it.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and summaries of the 5ch (Hello!Project board) thread “Giants Acting Manager 112.”

  • Pacific League: M 3-2 F [8/23] — Lotte wins 3rd straight, Fujiwara homers leadoff + 3 hits, Ogawa’s go-ahead RBI, Jackson picks up his 9th win

    In Pacific League play on August 23, the Chiba Lotte Marines edged the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters 3-2 to notch their third straight win. Fujiwara went 3-for-3 including a leadoff home run, Ogawa delivered the go-ahead RBI, and Jackson picked up his 9th win of the season. Meanwhile, on 5ch it was the usual free-for-all — Fighters fans getting mocked as “Ham-kasu” (“Ham-trash”), digs about SoftBank’s sign-stealing scandal getting dragged in for no reason, and worries that the Fighters have basically become a one-man Reyes show.

    Nippon-Ham 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 | 2

    Lotte 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 X | 3

    [Battery]

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    5AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:26
    How'd Kiyomiya do?
    21AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:29
    Re: #5
    He was the losing pitcher two days ago
    11AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:27
    Ham-trash, lol, serves you right
    23AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:29
    Re: #11
    There goes the delusional idiot again
    13AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:28
    Speaking of sign-stealing, that's the Hawks for you
    Prior offense
    https://imgur.com/a/k6SR4Uj
    20AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:29
    Re: #13
    Today's opponent was the Marines though?
    14AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:28
    Cheated again today and still couldn't win
    27AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:30
    Re: #14
    That loaded-cash toilet-bowl team (a dig at SoftBank's big spending) is off-topic here
    41AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:34
    Re: #14
    Bravo!!
    17AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:28
    Reyes: "Same either way! Doesn't matter if I get a hit!"
    18AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:28
    Makes you wonder if Shinjo's just a blowhard who's been carried this whole time by Reyes — the one lucky pull he got from the foreign-player gacha
    25AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:30
    Even after poaching Arihara, still stuck in 3rd 🥺
    35AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:33
    Re: #25
    Arihara escaped hell
    29AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:31
    Beat the Hawks, Fighters! ♪
    36AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:33
    Re: #29
    Today's opponent was the Marines though?
    45AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:37
    To Koropon-trash Re: #38 (a jab at the Fighters' Koropokkuru mascot),
    too bad for you.
    51AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:39
    Re: #45
    The sign-stealing Bank(s) lost, and that's 'bravo'?
    47AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:37
    One-man Reyes army — the dark ages are coming back starting next year
    49AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:38
    Re: #47
    Enough with that made-up nonsense
    79AnonymousAug 23, 2026 21:02
    Re: #47
    That'd be the Central League, wouldn't it
    48AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:38
    The Fighters and Marines are harmless in the Pacific League, but that loaded-cash toilet-bowl team (SoftBank) is straight-up toxic lol
    54AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:39
    Re: #48
    Every Pacific League fan already knows that
    62AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:44
    If it weren't for Reyes, they probably would've missed the playoffs (B-class finish) last year too
    66AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:48
    Re: #62
    Nah, that's not it
    63AnonymousAug 23, 2026 20:44
    Nice one, Lotte~
    There goes the Fighters' comeback pennant race 🤭

    Get wrecked in Tokorozawa next week lol (Seibu's home turf)
    81AnonymousAug 23, 2026 21:04
    Re: #63
    They'll finally win next week, right?
    93AnonymousAug 23, 2026 21:12
    Fighters sure are hated, huh
    96AnonymousAug 23, 2026 21:14
    Re: #93
    It's not the Fighters that are hated —
    it's Shinjo and his Hokkaido-native fanboys that are hated

    Background and Key Points

    The Pacific League is one of NPB’s two six-team circuits and, unlike the Central League, has used the designated hitter since 1975 — worth noting since Lotte’s win here was built on a leadoff bat (Fujiwara) and a reliable innings-eater (Jackson) rather than pitcher’s-spot maneuvering. The Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters, meanwhile, are a franchise in transition: they left the Sapporo Dome for the new ES CON FIELD HOKKAIDO in 2023 and are managed by Tsuyoshi Shinjo, the flamboyant former star who dubbed himself “BIG BOSS.” Their mascot, Koropokkuru, is drawn from Ainu folklore tied to Hokkaido. SoftBank, invoked repeatedly here even though they weren’t playing, carries baggage from unproven 2018-era allegations that they used a scoreboard camera to steal signs — a grudge Pacific League rivals still bring up reflexively.

    The thread didn’t really split over the Lotte-Fighters game itself, which was fairly one-sided; the actual disagreement was over the “one-man Reyes team” framing of the Fighters. Some posters ran with it as proof Shinjo’s roster-building has produced a hollow team propped up by one import bat, while others pushed back that this narrative is exaggerated or “made-up.”

    What outside readers will likely miss is that the SoftBank sign-stealing jabs are a non sequitur — several posters themselves note “today’s opponent was the Marines,” flagging that the Hawks bashing is just reflexive rivalry noise carried over from other games, not commentary on this result.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Baseball] Pacific League: M 3-2 F [8/23] — Lotte wins 3rd straight, Fujiwara homers leadoff + 3 hits, Ogawa’s go-ahead RBI, Jackson’s 9th win, Nippon-Ham drops another.”

  • Hiroshima’s Defense Draws Harsh Criticism — 5ch: “Mochimaru’s Framing Is Bad, He’s Just Mediocre All Around”

    In the live-thread for the Giants–Carp game, Hiroshima catcher Mochimaru’s shaky pitch framing repeatedly came under fire, while fans also voiced frustration over Giants starter Mori’s inconsistent command of the strike zone. Thread regulars also reacted to Yahoo!’s live update describing a groundout to third as “just making contact, nothing more,” and the game was picked apart from every angle.

    1AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:08
    Previous thread
    Giants Acting Manager Thread #110
    3AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:09
    Tokyo Dome
    Starting Lineups
    【Giants】  【Carp】
    4 Urata     8 Omori
    8 Sasaki    4 Kikuchi
    6 Izumiguchi     7 Fabian
    2 Oshiro     3 Sakakura
    5 Sakamoto     9 Akiyama
    7 Matsumoto     5 Sasaki
    3 Masuda Riku 6 Katsuta
    9 Hirayama     2 Mochimaru
    1 Ogasawara   1 Mori
    4AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:18
    Someone greased the plate for those Kyo-kasu bastards (虚カス, a mocking 5ch nickname for the Giants). Dirty move.
    14AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:19
    Mochimaru's framing is bad too, he's just mediocre all around.
    20AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:20
    When Sakamoto's in the lineup, you've got to be ready to write off three of his at-bats.
    21AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:20
    HERE IT COMES━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!! calling it now
    23AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:21
    The fact that they're this scared of us is a treasure in itself.
    34AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:22
    Re: #23
    His prime was probably back when he was a kid
    Sakamoto, huh… that's rough
    Yeah, probably
    26AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:21
    Just bring in the pitch clock already.
    28AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:21
    Mori, you're not even trying to throw strikes, are you?
    36AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:23
    Sure enough, the scoring chance swings right back around to the 6-hole
    Apparently there's a team out there that used to bat "Cabbage" in that spot (a fan nickname for a weak-link hitter)
    39AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:24
    Re: #36
    ??: "The '6-hole is actually the strongest spot' theory isn't too far off, huh? (smug face)"
    40AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:24
    A Carp without Kozono vs. a Giants without their "Eel" (うなぎ, a fan nickname for one of the Giants' players)
    44AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:26
    Was there anyone this year who got the post-game interview podium two days running?
    45AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:26
    Not sure what there is to be wary of against a team with the worst home run total in August out of all 12 clubs.
    46AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:27
    .339 with runners in scoring position — by that logic, .600 or better would count as messing up.
    47AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:27
    The wording on Yahoo!'s live update:
    "A groundout to third from bat-only-to-make-contact hitting"
    How pathetic.
    48AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:28
    That's because he missed his chances on a hittable first pitch and a juicy one down the third-base line.
    53AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:31
    Did Ogasawara ever get forgiven for peeling the breading off the kushikatsu that Waka brought in as a treat?
    54AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:32
    A barely-Double-A-caliber Japanese guy who's still a sweeter deal than a Triple-A foreigner.
    65AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:35
    Nagoya Dome: Dragons vs. Swallows, Game 19
    CBC Radio
    Color commentary: Takeshi Nakamura / Play-by-play: Toshihito Nishimura / Reporter: Kiyoshi Kadoue
    A guest elementary schooler joins the broadcast booth as part of the CBC Dragons Sunday Kids Experience Program
    TOKAI RADIO
    Color commentary: Hitoki Iwase / Play-by-play: Tomoyuki Takahashi (Tokai TV) / Reporter: Kazuki Genishi
    71AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:36
    Stop pulling it — that's exactly how you end up topping the ball.
    83AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:36
    Lol, they clearly have zero intention of letting us win the pennant.
    84AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:36
    TWO-WAY PLAYER HERE IT COMES━━━━(ᵒ∀ᵒ)━━━━!!
    104AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:38
    Last time they had a runner on third with no outs and still didn't score.
    105AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:38
    They could use Unagattsu in left field batting sixth, right? (ウナガッツ, literally "Eel Guts" — a fan nickname)
    107AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:38
    Their pitcher's already gasping for air — if we don't score now, this is the classic pattern where it just drags on forever.
    109AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:38
    Mochimaru's framing is just way too bad lol
    110AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:39
    Feels like Hiroshima's still giving their catchers old-school coaching too.
    116AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:39
    Re: #110
    Wasn't the battery coach a fraud?
    113AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:39
    Mori will probably pull himself together eventually.
    119AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:40
    The classic pattern: he throws 30 pitches in the first inning, then somehow still goes seven.
    120AnonymousAug 23, 2026 14:40
    [Hiroshima] "The Double Ishihara 30 Minutes" — Coach Yoshiyuki Ishihara gives catcher Takanori Ishihara, pulled mid-game on the 22nd, a lesson in "the catcher's mindset"
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/03e2789cae6c32859dffa27d238c52e876327fbc

    Background and Key Points

    Hiroshima Toyo Carp and the Yomiuri Giants are Central League rivals, and “pitch framing” — a catcher’s skill at receiving borderline pitches so umpires call them strikes — is a concept NPB fandom has only recently started borrowing from the Statcast-driven English-language discourse around MLB; NPB itself publishes no official framing metric, so any claim about a catcher like Mochimaru is fan impression, not a number. The thread’s name, “Giants Acting Manager,” comes from the fact that these live-game threads run on 5ch’s Hello! Project (idol-fan) board rather than a baseball board, a quirk of where the community settled rather than any real connection to idols. “Kyo-kasu” is a common derogatory nickname for the Giants among rival fans, playing on the team’s wealth and media dominance, while nicknames like “Cabbage” and “Unagattsu”/”Eel” refer to specific players by fan shorthand rather than official designations.

    The thread doesn’t converge on a single villain: posters split between blaming Mochimaru’s receiving for pitches going against Hiroshima, and blaming Giants starter Mori simply for not throwing strikes in the first place — two different explanations for the same wave of borderline calls, framing skill versus raw command.

    What’s easy to miss is that the closing link isn’t idle piling-on: it points to an actual news story about Hiroshima’s battery coach benching and lecturing another catcher, Ishihara, over game-calling, suggesting the “bad framing/old-school coaching” complaint reflects a real, reported internal issue on the Carp coaching staff, not just message-board pattern-matching.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Giants Acting Manager 111”.

  • Dodgers Win Fifth Straight as Skubal Fans 11 for First Win Since Trade — Ohtani Goes Hitless

    The Dodgers rallied to beat the Pirates 4-3, extending their winning streak to five games. Starter Tarik Skubal, making his first appearance since being traded to the team, earned his first win with 11 strikeouts over 7 innings on 106 pitches, while Shohei Ohtani went hitless in three at-bats with two walks.

    The thread debated the relative value of walks versus hits, trading numbers back and forth over Ohtani’s batting average with runners in scoring position and his OPS in close-and-late situations.

    Published 8/23 (Sun) 10:59 — TBS NEWS DIG, Powered by JNN

    ■MLB: Dodgers 4-3 Pirates (Dodger Stadium, August 23 Japan time)

    The Dodgers’ Shohei Ohtani (32) started at home against the Pirates, batting leadoff as DH. He went hitless in three at-bats with two walks and two strikeouts. Starter Tarik Skubal (29) allowed three runs in the first inning, but the Dodgers closed to within one run in the 4th on back-to-back RBI hits from Teoscar Hernández (33) and A. Thomas (26). In the 5th, a two-run RBI hit from Kyle Tucker (29) put the Dodgers ahead for good. Skubal shut out the Pirates from the 2nd inning on, throwing 7 innings on 106 pitches with 5 hits allowed, 11 strikeouts, 1 walk, and 3 runs (3 earned) to pick up his first win since joining the team, as the Dodgers claimed their fifth straight win.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:07
    The Bell of Amore at Utsukushigahara Kogen Art Museum is chiming to mark comment #2.

    (∪^ω^) 🔔♪ Ding-dong, ding-dong♪ (a running 5ch gag where a real museum bell "rings" to celebrate round-numbered posts in a thread)
    4AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:09
    Thought he'd keep it going after hitting No. 30, but nope.
    It's been like this all year.
    7AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:10
    Time for old man 'Washed-Up-Tani' to retire, maybe? (a mocking nickname blending 終わった/"washed up" with Ohtani's name)
    10AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:10
    After that first inning I thought Skubal was another bust of a signing, but he was lights-out from then on.
    13AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:12
    Knew Tucker would come through eventually.
    35AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:22
    The Brewers are the most impressive team out there — a high win rate without throwing money around.
    36AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:22
    Mr. O-tani says: "The plan was 20 wins and 60 homers this year, but at this pace I'm starting to think that might be a little tough. Still, I don't think it's time to panic yet." (a mock quote parodying Ohtani's interview style)
    42AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:24
    The rotation's finally coming together, but what about the bullpen?
    No way you three-peat with that crew.
    49AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:28
    Re: #42
    Rotation's Yamamoto, Ohtani, Skubal, Snell, and Glasnow if he's still got it.
    Sasaki closes.
    If Sasaki's not cutting it, they'll throw Yamamoto in as closer too and run him into the ground.
    That's probably what that garbage manager is thinking.
    43AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:25
    Ohtani and Murakami have been completely useless these past few days!
    Couldn't be more obvious they've given up on chasing any titles.
    46AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:27
    Re: #43
    Bet they're desperately digging up some weird stat again.
    48AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:28
    Re: #1
    Don't you get it — two walks are worth the same as two hits?
    53AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:30
    Re: #48
    So what, four walks equal a home run now? lol
    57AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:31
    But going hitless as a two-way player while doing rice-ball promo on the side — that's gotta be a first in baseball history.
    74AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:35
    Re: #57
    That rice ball commercial looks super AI-generated — is that even really him?
    58AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:31
    1st (DH) Shohei Ohtani     OPS .948
    2nd (1B) F. Freeman  OPS .842
    3rd (CF) A. Pages    OPS .805
    4th (3B) M. Muncy   OPS .846
    5th (SS) M. Betts    OPS .674
    6th (RF) K. Tucker   OPS .705
    7th (2B) T. Edman   OPS ~.740
    8th (LF) T. Hernández OPS ~.750
    9th (C) H. Feduccia OPS under .500

    Rather than demanding more out of Ohtani, isn't the real takeaway that everyone else needs to step it up a bit?
    62AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:32
    Re: #58
    Besides Ohtani, Muncy, and Freeman, everyone else looks shaky.
    64AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:33
    Re: #61
    A walk doesn't drive in a run unless the bases are loaded though? lol
    87AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:44
    Re: #64
    That's exactly what I said from the start — a walk isn't equal to a real hit, it's equal to a cheap "roach hit" (5ch slang for a weak infield squibber that just barely sneaks through).
    And with the bases loaded or a runner on first, a roach hit doesn't even count as a hit — it turns into a force-out.
    So technically, a walk is worth slightly more than a roach hit.
    That logic's gotta sting for the guys who've been worshipping that stat.
    85AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:43
    https://www.mlb.com/stats/ops?split=lc&page=5
    Ohtani's ranked 109th out of 137 qualified players in Late & Close situations lol
    91AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:46
    Re: #85
    Funny thing though.
    Weren't people chanting "batting average with runners in scoring position, batting average with runners in scoring position" like a broken record the last two years?

    So what was his Late & Close split those years, then?

    Background and Key Points

    5ch’s Entertainment & Sports News+ board is one of Japan’s largest anonymous forums, and MLB threads there draw heavy traffic specifically because of Ohtani, whose every plate appearance is treated as a referendum on his season. Ohtani plays as a “two-way” player only in the sense that he still hits every day as DH while rehabbing back into pitching; this particular game shows him purely as a hitter going 0-for-3 with two walks, which is why the discussion centers entirely on batting production rather than pitching. Skubal’s start matters separately: he’s a front-line starter who had thrown for another organization before this season and was making his first outing in a Dodgers uniform, so an 11-strikeout, one-run-after-the-first performance was treated as an early answer to whether the trade was worth it.

    The actual fault line in the thread is not “is Ohtani struggling” — everyone agrees he went hitless — but whether a walk should count as equivalent production to a hit. Posters split between citing OPS and RISP/late-and-close splits to argue Ohtani’s plate discipline still has value, and others mocking that equivalence, arguing a walk without runners in position to score is worth less than even a weak infield single.

    What the thread never addresses is sample size: late-and-close OPS and RISP averages over a few weeks are notoriously volatile statistics that fluctuate wildly for any hitter, including elite ones, and posters cite specific split numbers as though they were stable season-defining traits rather than small-sample noise.

    This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “[Then Again, Ohtani…] Dodgers rally for their 5th straight win! Starter Skubal dazzles with 11 K’s for his first win since the trade — Shohei Ohtani goes hitless.”

  • DeNA’s Fujinami Demoted to Minors After Wild Outing — Control Woes and Dropping Velocity Take Their Toll

    DeNA’s Shintaro Fujinami made his first appearance in a month against the Yomiuri Giants on August 20, but the outing fell apart: he lasted only into the 3rd inning, giving up 4 hits and 3 runs before being pulled, and his demotion to the minors soon followed. On 5ch, opinions clashed head-on over the cause of his control problems — some blame lingering damage from being overworked under manager Tomoaki Kanemoto during his Hanshin days, when he was forced to throw over 160 pitches in a game, while others say it simply comes down to a lack of ability.

    DeNA’s Shintaro Fujinami falls apart in first start in a month… heading to the minors. Is he now at risk of being “left out of next season’s plans”?

    In a game where the team was going for a series sweep, it turned into a betrayal on the mound. DeNA’s Shintaro Fujinami was knocked out on August 20, 2026 against the Giants after just 2⅓ innings, giving up 4 hits and 3 runs — his shortest outing of the season. He also struggled with his ongoing control issues, walking 4 batters.

    ■ “Right now, Fujinami’s control isn’t the only unstable thing…”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:29
    If only he'd found a good coach
    Makes you wonder — what if he'd gotten one of the Giants' miracle-worker coaches
    13AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:35
    Re: #2
    That "miracle-worker" coach
    was actually Hanshin's pitching coach back when Fujinami was there
    11AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:34
    Old Showa-era logic says hand him off to someone like Yoshinori Sato
    Have him throw 300 pitches in the bullpen
    Last resort
    14AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:36
    Re: #11
    Wasn't he already put through something close to that back in his Hanshin days?
    19AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:40
    Re: #14
    Don't know about that, just saying do it now
    24AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:44
    Re: #19
    You think his control problems just started recently or something?
    26AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:45
    They keep calling it his "back against the wall," but he's been there for ages now. He shows no sense of urgency himself, and everyone around him coddles him way too much
    33AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:47
    Re: #26
    More like he's neck-deep in the water by now
    41AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:57
    It's because Kanemoto made him throw 160 pitches
    He had a career path similar to Matsuzaka and Tanaka going back to high school, and year 4 as a pro is when accumulated fatigue tends to tank a guy's numbers
    But Kanemoto threw a tantrum and pushed him too hard anyway, and that's what finished him
    54AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:08
    Re: #41
    Kanemoto had become a washed-up player, and Toritani used to bail him out by shifting position for him
    Then once Kanemoto became manager, when Toritani made an error he flew into a rage
    and after that, when the team gave up a run, he kicked over a chair
    https://www.sanspo.com/article/20160518-4BZJUFP7YJNMLF5KI7ACSUFHXI/
    In his final year, with the team in last place, fans outside the hotel shouted
    "Kanemoto, quit!" and he lost it at them
    https://youtu.be/eVNz9pvtNo0
    Guy's got a hair-trigger temper
    56AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:09
    Re: #41
    Nah, that's not it
    Year 4 is just when the savings built up from his brutal high school training finally ran out
    45AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:02
    If there were an AI that could fix Fujinami, Kenta Kozono wouldn't be in the sorry state he's in now either
    49AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:05
    Re: #45
    In his case, isn't it just that he's got too much on his mind to focus on the game?
    51AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:05
    Kanemoto's the one to blame
    though the diehard "Are" fans (Hanshin fans, after the team's 2023 pennant code-word) will show up to deny it
    59AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:11
    Re: #51
    Kanemoto's the one who broke him mentally and delivered the finishing blow, but the shoulder and back injuries and the aimless mechanics overhauls that followed are on the coaching staff and on Fujinami himself
    61AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:12
    Re: #51
    That says it all
    58AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:11
    Re: #56
    His stats improved every year through his third pro season
    Same pattern as Matsuzaka and Tanaka
    63AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:14
    Re: #58
    Did you actually look at his third-year stats?
    64AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:16
    It's not just the 160-pitch game
    He was pushed hard all season despite not being at full strength from accumulated fatigue
    He threw the second-most pitches in the Central League that season
    Only Messenger threw more, so Fujinami led all Japanese pitchers

    See, this is exactly the kind of thing the "Are" fans show up to deny
    69AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:20
    Re: #64
    And so what, honestly
    He kept pitching, so he's not "broken"
    It's a technical issue
    71AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:26
    Re: #69
    You just don't get the concept of pitcher wear and tear
    Even if it were a technical issue, all he did was decline through Kanemoto's three years
    Kanemoto's to blame, he bears the responsibility
    73AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:31
    Re: #71
    2016: 169 innings
    2017: 59 innings
    2018: 71 innings

    So under the Kanemoto regime he barely pitched at all by the end
    He fell off on his own
    72AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:30
    I watched the game where they let him throw 161 pitches, and honestly, from Kanemoto's side it was the kind of game where you'd want to keep him out there. Fujinami was pitching just that pathetically.
    74AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:32
    Re: #72
    It'd be a different story if they'd kept in mind that, following the Matsuzaka/Tanaka pattern, fatigue might tank his numbers
    Instead they told him to go win 19 games — expectations were way too high
    75AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:34
    Re: #73
    "Barely pitched" just means he wasn't good enough to use in the majors anymore
    That's how far he'd fallen
    76AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:36
    Re: #75
    Blaming Kanemoto for him never recovering after that is ridiculous
    It's a lack of ability
    79AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:39
    Re: #76
    "Lack of ability"? He improved steadily through his third pro year, all the way up to Sawamura Award contention

    By that logic, was Chunichi's Asao's short career due to lack of ability, or just overconfidence?
    81AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:41
    Re: #79
    He just never got his mechanics back, right?
    Blaming that on someone else makes no sense
    Did someone force a mechanics overhaul on him? Never heard that
    84AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:44
    Re: #81
    No matter how much you insist, it doesn't change the fact that he broke Fujinami and the team ended up in last place
    94AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:58
    Re: #84
    He didn't "break" him
    Sometimes a subtle mechanical glitch just never gets fixed
    Look at Chunichi's Takahashi, he fell apart too
    Especially common with players straight out of high school
    96AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:01
    They should just bring back his high school training regimen
    102AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:07
    Re: #96
    Apparently, compared to his days at Osaka Toin, pro baseball training was easy for Fujinami
    99AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:06
    Re: #94
    Takahashi's just having an off year, there's a good chance he bounces back next year and beyond
    101AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:07
    Re: #99
    Same goes for Fujinami then
    People kept saying it was just a minor glitch since he was still hitting 150+ km/h
    He even had an MLB contract on the table
    103AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:10
    Re: #101
    Fujinami could've bounced back too if he hadn't been overworked in year four
    The fact he hasn't performed well since is proof he got broken
    104AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:11
    Re: #103
    If anything, his velocity kept going up though
    105AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:13
    Age-related decline is a big factor. This is the bill coming due for being overworked when he was young
    107AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:17
    Re: #105
    He's been wild since his Hanshin days

    Background and Key Points

    Shintaro Fujinami was once considered one of Japan’s premier pitching prospects, a hard-throwing right-hander out of Osaka Toin High School who joined the Hanshin Tigers in 2013 and, by his third pro season, was in Sawamura Award contention (Japan’s equivalent of the Cy Young). Under manager Tomoaki Kanemoto, Fujinami was pushed to a 161-pitch outing and led all Japanese-born pitchers in innings that year; his performance collapsed almost immediately afterward, and by 2018 he had been reduced to a fringe roster arm. He later signed an MLB contract, pitching for the Orioles and Athletics before returning to NPB with DeNA. That history is what makes his August 20, 2026 disaster start against the Yomiuri Giants — pulled after 2⅓ innings, four walks, three runs — read as a recurring pattern rather than an isolated bad night.

    The thread split cleanly on causation: one camp treats the 161-pitch game and the Matsuzaka/Tanaka-style “fourth-year fatigue” pattern as the root cause, with Kanemoto’s temper (documented incidents of him throwing chairs and berating fans) cited as corroborating evidence of poor man-management; the other camp points to hard innings/workload data showing Fujinami actually pitched very little under Kanemoto afterward (59 and 71 innings), arguing this proves talent erosion rather than abuse, and that his velocity has stayed strong for years, meaning it’s a mechanical or “lack of ability” issue, not physical breakdown.

    What neither side raises: Fujinami’s control problems predate the Kanemoto-era workload entirely — he was already known for wildness in high school and his rookie years — meaning both “overwork” and “pure decline” framings may be overstating a fixable single cause for what has always been an inconsistent delivery.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread “[Baseball] DeNA’s Shintaro Fujinami falls apart in first start in a month… demoted to minors, control issues persist and fastball velocity drops. Is he now at risk of being “left out of next season’s plans”?“

  • Chiben Wakayama Alum’s “Why Almost Nobody Quits the Team” Post Sparks Reaction

    A post by Kohei Morimoto, a former captain of Chiben Wakayama, explaining “why almost nobody quits the baseball team” went viral on X (formerly Twitter). On 5ch, users debated the team’s selective entry process—given that it fields only around 40 players a year while most Koshien regulars carry rosters of about 100—compared it to the old PL Gakuen powerhouse, and discussed how well its graduates have actually fared in professional baseball.

    At the summer Koshien tournament, Chiben Wakayama (Wakayama) won a hard-fought battle against Kenei Takasaki (Gunma) to claim its fourth championship, tying for sixth-most all-time.

    While many Koshien regulars carry rosters of around 100 players, Chiben Wakayama’s team hovers at roughly 40 each year. They put in some of the heaviest training loads in the country, yet almost all of the players stick it out for all three years.

    Kohei Morimoto, who served as Chiben Wakayama’s team captain in 2004, laid out his own firsthand explanation in an X post titled “Why Almost Nobody Quits the Chiben Wakayama Baseball Team.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:47
    Schools like Urawa Gakuin, which force third-years off the bench entirely, should be banned for life.
    91AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:43
    Re: #2
    Isn't it an annual tradition there to make them run all the way home from Kenei-Omiya Station to Urawa-Misono and force every third-year to retire?
    5AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:51
    So basically, just like the old PL Gakuen, they're heavily screened before they're even allowed to join.
    66AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:41
    Re: #5
    That's probably part of it, but maybe they're also screening for personality, like Aoyama Gakuin University's ekiden (relay marathon) team…

    Can junior high kids even be judged on that…
    Then again, they're already filtered through kindergarten entrance exams, so maybe it's possible.
    7AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:53
    They don't even make them do the grunt work?
    That's exactly why Chiben Wakayama players can't hack it once they turn pro—or once they're out in the real world.
    10AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:55
    Re: #7
    Yeah, their pro batting averages are pretty rough, come to think of it.
    21AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:58
    Re: #7
    Do pros even do chores?
    112AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:45
    Re: #7
    Does doing chores somehow improve your baseball skills? (lol)
    12AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:56
    Total opposite of PL Gakuen, huh.
    15AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:57
    Re: #12
    PL's rate of turning players into successful pros is insane.
    22AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:59
    Re: #12
    PL was also a small, elite squad, you know.
    18AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:58
    Every school keeps its roster small these days, but Chiben Wakayama has always done that.
    That said, while they're strong at Koshien, not that many of their players actually go on to succeed as pros.
    28AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:03
    Re: #18
    Nishikawa of the Nippon-Ham Fighters—3-time stolen base champion, batted over .300 twice.
    64AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:35
    Re: #18
    You say "small," but most teams still have around 80 players. Chiben only takes about 10 per grade, so in a good way, they're not even planning around anyone quitting.
    19AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:58
    My son's soccer club is always nagging about money.
    They're not even good, but they're constantly heading off on away trips.
    50AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:24
    Re: #19
    No one wants to come play them, so they have no choice but to travel themselves.

    Maybe they're also raking in kickbacks from the bus company.
    23AnonymousAug 22, 2026 23:59
    Cram in a ridiculous number of players and of course some are going to fall behind, and with dorm life that just breeds bullying.
    Just playing a bad video game for a little while is annoying enough—now imagine being locked into a "bad game" for two straight years, every single day. Of course the stress piles up.
    And then in year three, it's not even that the environment finally becomes about playing real baseball—it's the joy of the seniors being gone so now they get to do the bullying.
    93AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:55
    Re: #23
    20 players per grade is really the limit.
    Maybe 25 if you're being generous.
    Any bottom-tier baseball-factory private school carrying more than that shouldn't even bother showing up at Koshien.
    24AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:00
    But

    don't you have to join the religion to go there?
    103AnonymousAug 23, 2026 02:23
    Re: #24
    Almost none of the students are actually followers of Bentenshu (the school's affiliated Buddhist sect), lol.
    Kids go there for the academics, or because it's the kind of school doctors' kids attend.
    26AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:01
    Seeing guys like Okamoto and Murakami make it pro, I kind of get the sense it's a good program.
    31AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:06
    Re: #26
    Both Okamoto and Murakami are from Chiben Nara, not Chiben Wakayama.
    27AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:01
    Let the roster get too big and the players who fall behind are more likely to cause scandals.
    94AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:57
    Re: #27
    They're packed into dorms with a ridiculous number of teammates, right?
    Kind of gross when you think about it.
    30AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:05
    Doesn't Chiben Wakayama have team managers?
    Having the coach do the grunt work instead seems backwards.
    34AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:08
    Re: #30
    You occasionally see companies where the president personally takes the lead on weeding the yard or cleaning the toilets,
    but those companies usually end up going nowhere and failing.
    40AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:12
    They had an overwhelming number of players with great physiques.
    44AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:18
    Re: #40
    You can just tell Chiben Wakayama's players are built differently—thicker frames than any other school.
    That physique is clearly the source of their fearsome power hitting.
    They must place huge emphasis on diet and training to bulk up like that.
    45AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:19
    During Koshien, NHK's mics accidentally picked up Coach Takashima losing his temper in the dugout, and the live-commentary threads went wild over it lol.
    53AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:27
    Re: #45
    Pretty sure the one getting yelled at was the catcher, Azuma.
    69AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:46
    What's with people in school clubs pulling rank like crazy just because they're one or two years older?
    Same with comedians and their senpai-kohai (senior-junior) hierarchy—it's brutal too.
    Respect is fine, but this goes way too far; it's just outdated at this point.
    71AnonymousAug 23, 2026 00:50
    Re: #69
    They just want to act important.
    If they don't, they're afraid of being disrespected.
    High-pride types who can't stand being looked down on.
    81AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:03
    The one thing I don't get is drilling this hard for what's fundamentally a sport built on short bursts of explosive power.
    83AnonymousAug 23, 2026 01:04
    Re: #81
    Coordination? That (coordination drills) is probably necessary though.

    Background and Key Points

    Chiben Wakayama and Chiben Nara are sister schools under the same Bentenshu-affiliated Chiben Gakuen educational corporation, sharing a name but fielding separate baseball programs — a distinction that trips up even Japanese fans, as seen in the thread itself. Chiben Wakayama’s 2025 title (its fourth) puts it alongside Japan’s most storied Koshien programs, but the “40 vs. 100 roster” comparison needs context: Koshien tournament rosters are capped at 20 players regardless of school, so the real gap is in total squad size back at school, meaning far more players get real practice reps and playing time relative to their peers at bigger programs, rather than sitting out for years as bench depth.

    The thread split less on facts than on interpretation of the same testimony: some read Morimoto’s account as evidence of tough, deliberate pre-enrollment screening akin to the old PL Gakuen dynasty, others argued a cohort of only ten per grade simply makes bullying-driven attrition unnecessary since there’s no numerical surplus to cull, and a third group pushed back on the whole premise by noting Chiben Wakayama’s actual track record of producing successful professionals is unremarkable compared to Koshien powerhouses.

    What the thread never addresses is that PL Gakuen, repeatedly invoked as the gold standard for this kind of selective model, no longer fields a baseball team at all — it suspended recruiting in 2014 and formally dissolved the program in 2016 amid falling enrollment, so the comparison is to a defunct system, not a live rival. Readers unfamiliar with Japanese high school baseball may also assume “quitting” carries the same low stakes as in Western school sports; within Japan’s senpai-kohai dorm culture, leaving a team mid-tenure carries far heavier social cost.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports News+) thread “[High School Baseball] Chiben Wakayama Former Captain’s Post on “Why Almost Nobody Quits the Team” Sparks Reaction: “I Relate to This So Much”.”

  • Ichiro Sends Message to Finalists Chiben Wakayama and Kendai Takasaki: “One of My Dreams Came True — I’m Deeply Moved”

    Chiben Wakayama and Kendai Takasaki faced off in the Koshien final — and as it turns out, both schools have been visited and coached by Ichiro. He sent a message saying, “Two schools I’ve worked with ended up meeting in the final. One of my dreams has come true, and I’m deeply moved.”

    The thread saw a mix of cool skepticism (“isn’t it just a coincidence he happened to be connected to these two schools?”) and a tally showing that, of the 11 schools Ichiro has coached, Chiben Wakayama is the only one to ever reach Koshien. The discussion spun off into debate over whether he’s “strategically picking powerhouse schools” or whether “it’s just the media reporting on it after the fact.”

    ◇108th National High School Baseball Championship Final — Chiben Wakayama 4–3 Kendai Takasaki (August 22, 2026, Koshien)

    Ichiro (52), who serves as Special Assistant to the Chairman and Instructor for the Mariners, sent a message on the 22nd to both schools

    that fought a hard-fought battle in the 108th National High School Baseball Championship final at Koshien: Chiben Wakayama (Wakayama) and Kendai Takasaki (Gunma).

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:09
    Maybe it's just me, but didn't the level feel kind of low?
    4AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:10
    Go eat some curry and shut up (a classic 5ch put-down telling someone to quiet down).
    33AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:25
    Re: #4
    Gave up curry ages ago, buddy.
    6AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:10
    All that's left now is for him to lead the Dragons to a championship.
    7AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:10
    Re: #1
    Still trying to get attention?
    88AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:36
    Re: #7
    I think he's strategically picking schools because it gets reported as "Ichiro coached them." Asano from Takamatsu Shogyo (now with the Giants) was a first-round draft pick after all.
    92AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:41
    Re: #7
    You're one to talk — you went out of your way to quote post #1.
    8AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:11
    Ichiro himself never made it to the finals back in his own high school days, so he must be thrilled.
    11AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:12
    Wasn't he just goofing around playing baseball with high school girls?
    64AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:03
    Re: #11
    He's been visiting all sorts of schools ever since he got his amateur coaching license. It's only for a day, so it really depends on how much of Ichiro's mindset the kids can soak up in that time.

    Asahikawa Higashi High School (never been to Koshien)
    12AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:12
    Of course your hit rate goes up if you're coaching the powerhouse schools.
    14AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:12
    It's not like he's only ever been connected to two schools.
    16AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:12
    Not as a job, not as some mission — it'd be nice if he could just genuinely enjoy the games.
    18AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:14
    Just a coincidence, right? They were already strong schools to begin with.
    19AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:14
    Uncle Ichiro never misses a chance to plug himself lol ("Ichi-oji" — a半-affectionate, half-mocking nickname for Ichiro)
    22AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:15
    He probably has more attachment to Chiben Wakayama lol
    23AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:16
    "Coaching" but it's only a few days — he doesn't bear any real responsibility.
    25AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:16
    > It hasn't been made public, but I've also had a connection with Kendai Takasaki High School.

    Come to think of it, I had a connection too — just never made it public either. (joking)
    27AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:17
    If he's going to keep saying stuff like this, he should just become a full-time head coach already.
    30AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:20
    Huh? Why didn't he make the connection with Takasaki public until now? What, he only announces it once they reach the finals?
    91AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:39
    Re: #30
    Most of what's "public" isn't coming from Ichiro himself to begin with — it's the media reporting it. It's not like the press tags along to every single school he coaches.
    31AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:21
    I want him to go back to Meiden one more time and get them the championship. It'd be nice if he took on a bit more responsibility for once.
    35AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:29
    Ichiro, on players glued to their tablets: "As a fan, it's disappointing" — warns against over-reliance on data
    s://hochi.news/articles/20250124-OHT1T51009.html?page=1
    37AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:31
    He says visible numbers aren't everything, basically dismissing sabermetrics wholesale — even though he was the one obsessed with nothing but the visible hit count.
    38AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:32
    Don't make them train. Tigers and lions don't train, you know — and not just skipping weights either. (referencing Ichiro's famous "lions and tigers don't train" quote)
    43AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:35
    Just become a manager already and help energize the sport. Oh, Nagashima, Nomura, and Ochiai all properly took managing jobs and helped hype up the baseball world.
    63AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:01
    Re: #43
    Isn't it because becoming a manager would mean he can't coach high schoolers anymore?
    45AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:38
    And yet he even went to his alma mater, Aikodai Meiden 😿
    101AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:20
    Re: #45
    He's brutally strict when it comes to his own alma mater.
    47AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:42
    Of the 11 schools Ichiro has coached, only Chiben Wakayama has ever made it to Koshien

    Chiben Wakayama ⭕
    Kokugakuin Kugayama ❌
    Chiba Meitoku ❌
    Takamatsu Shogyo ❌
    Tokyo Metropolitan Shinjuku ❌
    Fuji ❌
    Asahikawa Higashi ❌
    Miyako ❌
    Okanmuri ❌
    Gifu ❌
    Aikodai Meiden ❌
    50AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:44
    Re: #47
    Can't even read post #1, can you.
    53AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:49
    What's that baseball event where Ichiro's clowning around with high school girls?
    56AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:53
    Re: #53
    Girls' high school baseball basically doesn't draw any crowds, so there's no revenue to speak of. They probably bring in an audience by having the girls play against Ichiro, then use that income to cover operating costs. The girls' baseball federation isn't even part of the national high school sports federation either.
    86AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:31
    He hates his alma mater. (sarcastic jab, contradicting the earlier post)
    100AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:19
    Re: #86
    He went there recently and gave them advice out of love, though.
    87AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:35
    Re: #1
    Shota Imanaga reunites with Ichiro for the first time in two years, receives 15 minutes of "golden wisdom": "Every bit of it was the best advice." Carrying his gratitude to his senior, he takes the mound on the 24th.
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/5f883e91e68504ef8f1d12ab2a05150a4f815915
    98AnonymousAug 22, 2026 21:03
    Re: #87
    This is actually a pretty great system. You get to chat with Ichiro whenever you happen to catch a Mariners game — he's basically always at the Mariners' stadium anyway.
    90AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:38
    He just went and pushed his way into schools that looked strong, didn't he?
    93AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:43
    Re: #90
    He said he picks based on reading through the letters he receives. He's coached weak schools too, you know.

    Background and Key Points

    Koshien, formally the National High School Baseball Championship, is Japan’s marquee amateur sports event, held every August at Hanshin Koshien Stadium. Getting there is brutal: roughly 3,500-4,000 schools enter regional qualifiers, and only 49 teams (one per prefecture, two each for Hokkaido and Tokyo) make the final bracket. Ichiro Suzuki, now 52 and a special assistant/instructor for the Seattle Mariners, obtained an amateur baseball coaching license after retiring and has since made one-off visits to various high schools, Chiben Wakayama (Wakayama) among them, alongside his own alma mater Aikodai Meiden. That both 2026 finalists, Chiben Wakayama and Kendai Takasaki (Gunma), turned out to have hosted him fed his message calling it “one of my dreams.”

    The thread’s actual disagreement was not about the game itself but about causation: some posters treated the double connection as evidence Ichiro gravitates toward already-strong programs so the “Ichiro coached them” narrative writes itself after the fact, while others pointed to the tally of his eleven visited schools, only Chiben Wakayama had ever reached Koshien before, as proof there’s no pattern at all, just one hit among many misses.

    What the thread never quite reconciles for an outside reader is the nature of these “visits”: they are single-day clinics tied to a post-career license, not ongoing coaching relationships, and one poster noted Ichiro says he selects schools from letters he receives rather than scouting rosters. Given how vanishingly small the odds are of any one school reaching Koshien at all, a school he visited getting there isn’t strong evidence of favoritism, but it isn’t strong evidence of pure coincidence either.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports Express+) thread “[High School Baseball] Ichiro Sends Message to Chiben Wakayama and Kendai Takasaki: “Two Schools I’ve Worked With Meet in the Final… One of My Dreams Has Come True”.”

  • Shohei Ohtani’s Pitching WAR Stalls, Fueling 5ch Debate Over His Cy Young and MVP Chances

    A pitching WAR ranking posted on a 5ch live-discussion board sparked buzz after it showed Shohei Ohtani sitting at 26th (3.0) — trailing not only league-leading Misiorowski (5.5) but also fellow DH-only player Alvarez.

    The thread split over whether continuing the two-way career still makes sense, given Ohtani currently falls short of the qualifying threshold in both hitting and pitching, with talk spilling over into his run of consecutive 30-homer seasons alongside players like Schwarber, and the state of his knee.

    1AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:35
    Pitcher WAR
    1st: Misiorowski 5.5
    26th: Ohtani 3.0
    3AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:35
    Guess he's lost to Alvarez in WAR too, even though they're both DH-only guys
    8AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:36
    What's so great about this 'Pika' guy anyway? (nickname, apparently for the player just mentioned)
    10AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:36
    Re: #8
    Hits more home runs than Ohtani, runs better than Ohtani, and fields better than Ohtani
    11AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:37
    Re: #8
    Honestly, pretty much everything, no joke
    19AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:38
    So what does it even take to hit 30 homers with a 9.300 OPS and still end up with a WAR only in the 4s?
    24AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:39
    Re: #19
    He folds in clutch situations
    21AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:39
    See? This proves it once and for all.
    Going two-way lowers your WAR.
    Even back in 2022, when he qualified in both hitting and pitching, his WAR was lower than usual that year.
    His career high also came in a DH-only season.

    Two-way baseball is completely worthless and pointless — it just racks up injuries
    31AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:42
    Re: #21
    The faithful love to fantasize and just add the numbers together, but two-way play really just debuffs both sides
    39AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:43
    Re: #21
    Babe Ruth proved that a hundred years ago
    32AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:42
    Why did he suddenly wash up like this?
    It happened all at once
    37AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:43
    Re: #32
    It's the knee… he ran too much during his 50-50 season
    36AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:43
    If the WAR's the same either way, doing it as a two-way player is still more impressive, right?
    Even a bit lower, two-way is still amazing
    48AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:47
    Re: #36
    He's just doing something absurdly roundabout to achieve what he could do the normal way — it's wasted effort
    It's like taking a 100 km/h detour to arrive in the same 10 minutes you'd get just driving straight there at 60 km/h. Pointless
    70AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:57
    Re: #48
    lol, that's a surprisingly clear analogy
    80AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:04
    Re: #48
    So you don't rate utility players either then?
    40AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:44
    And he's still got 8 wins on the mound
    44AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:45
    Re: #40
    Say that to Yamamoto's face
    41AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:45
    Let's take a moment here to check in on Aaron Judge — the guy people used to bash Ohtani with — and his stats this season

    AVG .248 17 HR 38 RBI OPS .907 (hasn't reached the qualifying threshold)
    45AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:46
    Re: #41
    He's just been out hurt for like 3 months now, newbie (ニワカ, i.e. a casual/bandwagon fan)
    53AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:48
    He's so weak against scrubs (雑魚専, i.e. padding stats against weak competition) that it's almost sad watching people desperately push the fact his OPS is only a hair higher than PCA's
    111AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:28
    Re: #53
    PCA (Pete Crow-Armstrong) has played a full season and still has the higher wRC+, so Ohtani's flat-out losing on offense too
    PCA's defense — historically great, even though some call it overrated — grades out about even with roughly 80 innings of Ohtani's pitching by the metrics
    And on the bases, PCA blows him away completely
    59AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:52
    MLB: 'Six straight 30-homer seasons — among active players, only Shohei Ohtani and Schwarber have done it.'

    Is this guy a god or something?
    64AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:53
    Re: #59
    There's about to be a third
    60AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:52
    By the way, here's Cal Raleigh's line this season (as of 8/22)
    AVG: .157
    HR: 14
    RBI: 47
    OPS: .577
    63AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:53
    Re: #60
    Unlike Judge, who's just hurt, this is genuinely brutal
    77AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:00
    His batting-only WAR in 2024 was 9.2, and even that might lose to PCA's this year, no?
    91AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:10
    Re: #77
    Well, getting that while playing DH is basically a miracle in itself
    78AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:02
    Does Ohtani's DH defensive penalty get offset by his pitching value?
    108AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:25
    Re: #78
    Whether he's pitching or not, he's standing in as the DH at the plate, so there's no way it would be offset
    79AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:04
    If he steps up in the postseason this year and becomes the key man in a three-peat, that's worth more than an MVP, right?
    84AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:06
    Re: #79
    After watching how last year went, only the true believers are still expecting that — plus he doesn't look like he'll even be able to pitch, and I can't picture him hitting any better than he has all season either
    96AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:13
    It's kind of sad how he's been desperately padding his stats with stolen bases lately
    102AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:19
    Re: #96
    He's desperate enough to just ignore his own 'bad knee' storyline
    100AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:17
    I want someone willing to risk getting banned to just ask Ohtani straight up, 'Why don't you just play position player full-time?'
    101AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:18
    Re: #100
    You don't even need to ask that — it's just because he can't

    Background and Key Points

    Wins Above Replacement (WAR) is a single sabermetric number meant to fold hitting, pitching, defense, and baserunning into one “value above a replacement-level player” score, but pitcher WAR and hitter WAR are calculated differently, and FanGraphs and Baseball-Reference versions can diverge sharply — a nuance that gets lost when a bare leaderboard screenshot circulates on a live-discussion board. Ohtani is the only player in modern MLB history to be an everyday DH and a rotation starter in the same season; he won AL MVP unanimously in 2023, then NL MVP in 2024 as a hitter-only after a second UCL elbow surgery kept him off the mound that year. His 2025 return to pitching only began in June, after a roughly two-year layoff, with the Dodgers deliberately capping his innings — which is why his raw pitching WAR total looks thin next to full-workload arms like Misiorowski.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t over Ohtani’s numbers themselves but over what two-way play is “for”: one side reads his WAR as proof that splitting time between the mound and the plate mathematically caps his ceiling on both sides, comparing it to Babe Ruth’s era; the other side argues the degree of difficulty is the value, and that docking him for attempting something no other modern player can sustain misreads the stat entirely.

    What the thread never raises is that his innings limit this season is a workload-management choice tied to elbow recovery, not a sign of decline, and that Cy Young voting still leans heavily on traditional marks like wins and ERA rather than WAR alone — so a low WAR ranking doesn’t mechanically foreclose award consideration the way posters assume.

    *This article is compiled as excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Live Coverage G) thread “[Sad News] Shohei Ohtani Now Completely Out of the Running for Both the Cy Young and MVP lolololololololololololololololololol.”

  • Chiben Wakayama Wins It All — 5 Minutes Later, Dortmund Sends Congrats; 5ch: ‘Koshien Went International While We Weren’t Looking’

    Moments after Chiben Wakayama beat Kendai Takasaki 4–3 to claim their fourth summer Koshien title — and first in five years — Bundesliga giants Borussia Dortmund posted a congratulatory message on social media, setting off a buzz in 5ch’s live-thread community.

    Why would a soccer club react to a high school baseball final? Theories flew across the thread, from a shared tiger-stripe uniform connection and rumors of past exchanges between the two clubs, to suspicions that the whole thing was staged.

    The final of the 108th National High School Baseball Championship was held on August 22, with Chiben Wakayama (Wakayama) edging out Kendai Takasaki (Gunma) 4–3,

    claiming their fourth title and first in five years. After the hard-fought game, a congratulatory message arrived for Chiben Wakayama from an unexpected source, catching fans off guard.

    The message to the hard-hitting Chiben squad — now tied with PL Gakuen for four summer titles — came from none other than Borussia Dortmund, a powerhouse of Germany’s top soccer division.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:13
    Gotta love it when foreigners get used for a good laugh.
    5AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:14
    Her boyfriend's probably on the Chiben Wakayama baseball team, I bet.
    6AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:14
    Damn, Dortmund actually knows its stuff — the Shinji Kagawa effect, maybe?

    See you at the WBC, lol (b)
    7AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:15
    Meanwhile in Japan, some sports writer was desperately hunting for anything to nitpick so they could churn out a rage-bait article for the clicks.
    8AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:15
    Honestly can't tell the Carp, the Reds, and Chiben apart.
    9AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:15
    Soccer ('ball-kickers', a dismissive nickname for the sport) really does love cozying up to baseball, huh (lol)
    10AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:15
    This is baffling.
    Is there actually some connection between them?
    81AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:53
    Re: #10
    Their connection is the yellow-and-black stripes — Dortmund's tiger mascot kind of looks like Puma's logo.
    Apparently that's led to some exchange between the two organizations.
    This is probably part of that.
    A 'Tigers meets Koshien' kind of link.
    12AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:16
    Japanese high school baseball has the whole world hooked
    Even foreign soccer fanboys (サカ豚, a mocking nickname for soccer fans) can't resist it
    13AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:17
    They also sent a 'good luck' message to both Chiben and Kendai Takasaki right after the semifinal ended. What's going on here?
    14AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:17
    They actually showed up at Koshien Stadium recently too, and hung out with the Hanshin Tigers.
    15AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:17
    Isn't there actually something to the theory that Germany has more baseball fields with natural grass in the infield and outfield than Japan does?
    16AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:17
    What are the soccer fanboys gonna do with this one?
    24AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:21
    Re: #16
    It's probably just their Japan social media guy, who happens to be a baseball fanboy (焼き豚, the mocking counterpart term to サカ豚), posting this on his own.
    57AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:35
    Re: #16
    I'm gonna go streak to the convenience store 🙁 (a classic 5ch meme for 'I can't even')
    18AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:18
    Re: #1
    https://imgur.com/n3ElGF4.png
    https://imgur.com/dRfUYSZ.png
    20AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:20
    Daniel Kahl was an exchange student at Chiben Gakuen.
    21AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:20
    See, baseball IS recognized overseas
    Soccer fanboys are just liars
    23AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:21
    Were they even watching Koshien, though?
    32AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:24
    Re: #23
    The fact that they posted the message just 5 minutes later suggests they were watching via 'Virtual Koshien' (バーチャル高校野球, Japan's official Koshien livestream service).
    29AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:23
    Soccer fanboys: 'Dortmund's a baseball fanboy now!'
    33AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:24
    Soccer fanboys: 'A baseball fanboy must've hacked Dortmund's social media.'
    34AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:24
    Soccer's washed up even in Germany these days
    Baseball's the popular one now
    36AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:25
    🌹Women's Chronicles🌹 Yoshino District, Nara Prefecture — founder of the Benten-shu sect & guardian figure to Konosuke Matsushita: Ms. Chiben Ōmori
    https://note.com/happywomen_jp/n/nd08b8ac7cbce
    37AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:25
    Baseball fanboys are literally crying tears of joy, lol
    Meanwhile in Germany it's more like 'baseball, what's that?'
    38AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:25
    Baseball diplomacy.
    Nobody cares about 'ball-kicking' — everyone plays that everywhere.
    Japan's real sports culture is baseball.
    40AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:27
    Germans are cozying up to high school baseball キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!! (a classic 5ch hype expression)
    Meanwhile high school soccer gets totally ignored lol
    41AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:27
    Koshien Went International While We Weren't Looking
    43AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:29
    Wait, can you even watch 'Virtual Koshien' from Germany?
    45AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:30
    Re: #43
    Pretty much, yeah — you can watch it if you actually want to.
    47AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:30
    Soccer fanboys: 'But the world—!'
    The world: 'High school baseball rules.'
    49AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:31
    Ecuador is actually where Okabayashi Yoichi was born, you know — he played baseball there himself.
    50AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:32
    When I saw it on Instagram I figured it was photoshopped, but this is actually real?
    72AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:46
    Lukas Podolski used to always rave about Koshien back when he played for Vissel Kobe.
    He'd say things like 'they play almost every single day and it's always packed — just as good as the Bundesliga,' and soccer fans would rip into him for it.
    79AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:52
    Re: #72
    The Bundesliga only plays like twice a month, though.
    86AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:56
    Re: #72
    He also said soccer isn't actually Japan's No. 1 sport, and the soccer fanboys lost it over that one too.
    88AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:00
    Why does nobody ever bring up high school soccer?
    89AnonymousAug 22, 2026 20:01
    Re: #88
    Because most people don't even know it's a thing.

    Background and Key Points

    Koshien needs little introduction inside Japan but plenty outside it: the National High School Baseball Championship, held at Hanshin Koshien Stadium since 1915, is a two-week, single-elimination tournament that draws roughly 50,000 spectators a game and stops the country the way a World Cup final might elsewhere — this year’s edition was the 108th. Chiben Wakayama’s win gave the school its fourth title, tying it with PL Gakuen, a genuinely significant marker in a competition where most schools never win once. Borussia Dortmund is not a random outsider here: the club’s black-and-yellow “Die Schwarzgelben” branding gets compared by Japanese fans to Puma’s logo and, by extension, to the Hanshin Tigers, and the thread references prior contact between Dortmund and the Tigers organization, plus a visit to Koshien Stadium itself — so the congratulatory post has a real, if thin, institutional thread behind it rather than coming out of nowhere.

    What the thread actually disagreed on wasn’t whether the connection was real, but how sincere it was — some read it as an authentic gesture rooted in that tiger-stripe/Hanshin link (or even a staffer’s personal baseball fandom), others assumed it was a low-effort social-media stunt, possibly not even watched live but noticed via Japan’s official “Virtual Koshien” stream, which posters confirmed is accessible from Germany.

    What outsiders will likely miss is the sport-rivalry subtext driving half the replies: much of the thread isn’t really about Dortmund at all, but about Japan’s long-running baseball-fan-versus-soccer-fan sniping (焼き豚 vs サカ豚), with Dortmund’s message being used as ammunition in that unrelated domestic argument.

    *This article was compiled as an excerpt/summary of the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread [High School Baseball] Five Minutes After Chiben Wakayama’s Fourth Summer Title in Five Years, German Soccer Powerhouse Dortmund Sends Congratulations.

  • Giants Rout Carp 5-0: Daiki Nets First Career Win in First Start as Hiroshima Shut Out for Second Straight Game

    In the August 22 Giants-Carp game, the Giants cruised to a 5-0 win, extending their winning streak. Starting pitcher Yamato Daiki picked up his first professional win as a starter, backed by a two-run homer from Matsumoto Go and a timely hit from Nakayama. The thread lit up with a mix of questions about the manager’s lineup choices and praise for Daiki’s big day.

    Hiroshima 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 |0

    Giants 0 0 2 0 0 3 0 0 X |5

    [Battery]

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    3AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:18
    Giants win again today, and Hiroshima-style okonomiyaki sure tastes great (o^∀^o) (a cheeky dig — savoring the loser's local specialty)
    5AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:18
    Giants win again today, and ajari-mochi (a Kyoto rice cake, unrelated to Hiroshima — just riffing on the previous post) tastes great too (o^∀^o)
    7AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:19
    After Arai-san [the Carp manager],
    who'd even want that job?
    10AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:21
    Does the Giants even have a real starting rotation?
    Why bench Otsuka when he's red hot
    and run out Sakamoto batting 5th with Kai catching?
    They're overtinkering with everything.
    17AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:24
    Re: #10
    They optioned Takemaru off the roster, so that's the replacement.
    21AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:27
    Re: #10
    If they'd lost, sure, but they won comfortably without allowing a run — that complaint doesn't hold up.
    97AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:58
    Re: #10
    Otsuka's been playing nonstop, so it's probably just a rest day. And they won anyway, so who cares.
    Tomorrow's starter is Ogasawara, so Otsuka's back in.
    11AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:21
    Feels like pitcher Martinez picked up an easy save there.
    12AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:22
    Congrats to Daiki on his first career win in his first start!
    13AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:22
    Shut out two games in a row? That's just weak.
    Fans should be furious.
    41AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:42
    Re: #13
    There are bigger things to be angry about than that.
    14AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:23
    Martinez, picking up a save with a 5-run lead, is the real winner here.
    15AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:24
    SoftBank's cleanup hitters are on a whole different level, though.
    19AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:26
    Re: #15
    It's silly to even compare the two.
    16AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:24
    Re: #1

    Decision
    Winning pitcher: Giants — Daiki (1-0, 0 SV)
    Losing pitcher: Hiroshima — Tamamura (1-4, 0 SV)
    Save: Giants — Martinez (3-3, 34 SV)
    18AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:25
    Someone said it earlier, but Daiki's got that classic Showa-era handsome-guy look (a retro, old-school leading-man vibe).
    20AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:27
    Yamato Daiki:
    "Giants fans, please remember the name 'Yamato Daiki' before you head home."
    22AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:28
    Re: #17
    Ah, that makes sense —
    Takemaru had been off form, so that checks out.
    24AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:28
    Re: #1
    Sounds like the Carp got chewed out by Fujikawa over a hit-by-pitch, so now they're showing their support by losing to the Giants every single time.
    26AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:30
    The Giants don't hit guys and put them on the injury list, though, right?
    37AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:38
    Re: #26
    Abe properly respected his elder, Arai,
    but Fujikawa didn't, and that's why he earned Arai's disapproval.
    43AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:44
    Re: #26
    Actually, today Urata already took a pretty scary hit-by-pitch,
    though he just barely avoided a serious injury.
    28AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:33
    Outside of Tigers games played in a dome, they can actually win properly, so they're still hanging in there.
    31AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:35
    Guess the announcement of the 4th one is getting close
    they've sent him down and gotten him properly ready.
    33AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:36
    Didn't know the Zombies [a mocking nickname for the lifeless-looking team] were still playing baseball
    nothing but half-hearted games from them.
    34AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:37
    Say what you want, but Kai's actually calling a good game behind the plate.
    35AnonymousAug 22, 2026 17:37
    Daiki's surgery set him back time-wise, but he's the same age as a first-year college draftee, so he's still got plenty of runway ahead.
    57AnonymousAug 22, 2026 18:24
    They're strong at Tokyo Dome, huh.
    59AnonymousAug 22, 2026 18:26
    Re: #57
    Actually it's the opposite —
    this year they're weak at Tokyo Dome.
    They win more at other parks.
    The pitching staff is clearly getting hit hard there.
    60AnonymousAug 22, 2026 18:28
    Guess they don't even do night games on summer-vacation weekends anymore.
    87AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:35
    Re: #60
    Outdoor day games in summer got scrapped starting this year —
    reason being it's just too hot.
    95AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:53
    Re: #60.
    They stopped night games at outdoor stadiums in summer because of heatstroke risk. Day games now only happen at domed stadiums (except Seibu's).
    Also, for Giants home games, Saturdays still occasionally get a night game, but Sundays are now almost always day games.
    66AnonymousAug 22, 2026 18:39
    Good for Matsumoto Go — he's managed to succeed as a Giants player in a way even Matsuda couldn't.
    69AnonymousAug 22, 2026 18:51
    Re: #66
    Seriously, the guys who were against picking up Matsumoto owe him an apology.
    74AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:04
    Re: #66
    The only ones who've openly said they've been Giants fans since childhood are pretty much Matsu-Go, Nakayama, and Ishizuka.
    Plenty of Tigers fans on this roster though lol
    86AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:35
    Even after loading the bases, if it's still just a 1-run game, does that still count as a save?
    88AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:37
    Re: #86
    Used to be that 2-outs-bases-loaded counted as a 4-run save situation, but under the current rules it's 5 runs.

    Background and Key Points

    For readers unfamiliar with Japanese pro baseball: the Yomiuri Giants and Hiroshima Toyo Carp are two of the Central League’s most storied franchises, and this was a lopsided in-season match rather than a marquee rivalry night. Carp manager Ryoji Arai is a former Carp great now in a rebuilding job with a thin, inconsistent staff — hence one poster’s crack that nobody would want to inherit the position after him. Yamato Daiki is a young right-hander whose path to the rotation was delayed by surgery; because Japanese draft classes are tracked by age cohort rather than pro-service years, he’s still considered on the same developmental clock as a fresh college draftee despite the setback. Erasmo Martinez is the Giants’ closer, and NPB’s save rule (unlike MLB’s) can credit a “save situation” even with a big lead if the tying run is on base, which is why his outing drew mixed reactions rather than blanket praise.

    Where the thread actually diverged was over manager Hara’s lineup choices — several posters called benching the hot-hitting Otsuka and batting Sakamoto fifth with Kai catching “overtinkering,” while others pointed out a comfortable shutout win makes second-guessing pointless and that Otsuka’s absence was simply a rest day before the next start.

    One thing casual readers might miss: the throwaway note about NPB scrapping outdoor day games in summer isn’t stadium trivia, it’s a league-wide 2026 policy shift driven by heatstroke concerns for players — a genuinely unusual accommodation compared to MLB’s unchanged day-game scheduling.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports Speed+) thread “[Baseball] CL G 5-0 C [8/22] Giants win again, Daiki gets first career win in first start, Matsumoto’s 3rd HR (2-run), Nakayama’s timely hit, Carp shut out for 2nd straight game.”