Political Pan Screenwriter: “Stop Using Us to Bash VIVANT” — 5ch: “You Don’t Need to Watch Either One”

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Screenwriter Akiko Nogi’s post on X (formerly Twitter) reading “Please don’t use our drama as a stick to beat VIVANT with” became a hot topic on 5ch’s Entertainment/Sports Breaking News+ board. The remark came after Political Pan, Nogi’s new drama, kept getting set side-by-side with TBS ratings juggernaut VIVANT in comparisons of political content, with social media framing the two as rivals over “which one’s better.” Alongside talk of the ratings gap between the two shows (Political Pan at 4.1% vs. VIVANT’s 21.8% series finale) and debate over each show’s actual quality, the thread split between posters who read Nogi’s comment as a political statement and those who didn’t.

Akiko Nogi

@nog_ak

I’d really rather you didn’t use our drama as a stick to beat VIVANT with. There’s no point or meaning in pitting dramas against each other. Why not just watch both? 👀

Source: x.com / Original post here

What people said

4AnonymousNov 11, 2026 14:57
Poooops~~!
Down with lookism~~! (mimics an over-the-top protest chant)
19AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:08
Re: #4
Sounds like they don't get along with Fujiko (the Lupin III character)
5AnonymousNov 11, 2026 14:58
So why does this turn into bashing Japan's ruling government? And using Satomi Ishihara for it, no less.
16AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:07
Re: #5
It's less "bashing the government" and more just talking about the political system, isn't it?
6AnonymousNov 11, 2026 14:58
No need to watch either one.
You can get through life just fine without watching either.
8AnonymousNov 11, 2026 14:59
I recorded it and finally watched it — this drama was incredibly boring.
Satomi Ishihara felt dated too.
9AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:02
Re: #1
LOL, riding on VIVANT's name for free publicity.
Never even heard of this drama, you clown.
10AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:04
You can't even tell what either drama is about from the title alone — how did it come to this?
15AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:06
It's more interesting than Vivant Season 2, though.
Vivant Season 1 was good.
30AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:14
Re: #15
Season 2 was rough — you could tell right away the writer had changed. Still, once a show's got momentum going, the ratings just don't drop, huh.
75AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:53
Re: #30
For the record, Season 1's writer is currently in hot water over Toyotomi Brothers (the NHK taiga drama).
107AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:14
Re: #30
That bad, huh… So the movie's all buzz and no substance — guaranteed flop, then.
17AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:08
Wait, so there are actually people hyping this drama up just to bash VIVANT?
No way anyone's doing that.
25AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:10
Re: #17
Oh, they exist.
20AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:09
If she wants to bash the ruling party that badly, she should just make a straight-up political drama about it.
21AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:09
This drama peaked in episode 1 and it's been sliding downhill ever since, ratings-wise.
22AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:09
After milking "Ohtani withdrawal," now the media's hyping up "Vivant withdrawal."
This'll keep going into next year.
44AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:23
Re: #22
Both Ohtani and Vivant are just being hyped by Dentsu (the ad agency) — they're probably not even that popular for real.
23AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:09
The people trashing VIVANT are huge Lupin fans.
They keep going off about stuff like "ugh, the nationalism in this" and bash it nonstop.
24AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:10
Honestly, Lupin's boring too.
Having the leads come from poor backgrounds just to sound off about politics and money, with the cheap "nepo kid" criticism on top, is pretty shallow.
And it still won't touch religious groups with political ties at all.
27AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:11
Haven't watched it, sorry.
VIVANT's the best!
28AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:13
These days, apparently just dropping VIVANT into any conversation gets you attention.
46AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:24
Re: #1
After all that promotion, it still got totally beaten by Minamida Minami and Lost 10.
But this year every Wednesday-10pm show besides Lupin flopped, so by that standard it's an unusually big hit for this slot.
Part of the reason is also that Mio Imada's show in the same slot on the other network is bombing hard.
59AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:40
Re: #46
"After all that promotion!" — that phrase gets thrown around a lot, but how much is "that much," really?
I barely remember Lupin getting any huge promo push on Fuji TV.
Wasn't it pretty normal-level?
102AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:12
Re: #46
Unusually big hit? When Political Pan's latest episode only pulled 4.1%?
VIVANT's finale was 21.8%, you know.
Do the other dramas in this slot normally only get like 2%?
49AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:29
Fuji TV's usually in a slump, but everything's doing well for them this season, so Lupin looks weak by comparison.

Ratings: Kyuumei (Lifesaving) > Minamida Minami > Uraraka > Lupin > Kidnap
TVer streaming: Uraraka > Kyuumei > Minamida Minami > Lupin > Kidnap

The fact that Kidnap, the one they spent the most money on, is dead last on both lists is honestly hilarious.
61AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:42
Re: #49
So the curse struck again, huh.
Even after TV Asahi moved the drama's time slot, it still flopped.
You'd think the real tough draw would be the 10pm slot going up against Hodo Station, though.
79AnonymousNov 11, 2026 15:56
She clearly doesn't get what "stick to beat it with" even means.
A garbage drama like this couldn't pull off that role anyway.
Maybe if it were something like Lost 10 saying it, sure, but…
87AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:01
Re: #79
Oh, someone's actually talking about LOST10.
91AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:03
Both are kid stuff, honestly,
but Lupin loses outright — both as entertainment and as political commentary, I'd say.
Nogi probably has more she really wants to say too, but if she's holding back to avoid offending a certain religious group, that's a tough position to argue from.
VIVANT's script went after opposition parties knowing full well it'd cause backlash.
98AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:10
Re: #75
VIVANT 2 — writer changed, totally fell apart!
Toyotomi Brothers — the script's a total mess!

Both are losing out here.
101AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:11
Re: #98
I mean, a taiga drama written by someone whose morning drama (asadora) already flopped was never going to be good lol
99AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:11
Satomi Ishihara's projects never really miss, huh.
109AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:15
Re: #99
Japanese TV dramas and movies are nothing but misses lately.
Even here in Japan, Korean dramas are more popular.
115AnonymousNov 11, 2026 16:19
Re: #99
Did you not see that one she did with Kamenashi recently…?
That one was really something…

Background and Key Points of This Discussion

“Tataki-bō” (literally “a stick for hitting”) is internet slang for using one work or person as a comparison tool to put another down — and that’s exactly what sparked this thread, with two politically-tinged dramas getting pitted against each other. VIVANT, a socially conscious drama about the dark side of the state, closed out its run with a 21.8% finale rating, while Political Pan, airing the same season, reportedly pulled just 4.1%. In the thread, some read the matchup as a simple popularity comparison, while others questioned the quality of the political messaging in each show. What’s easy to misread here is that this isn’t actually a fight over real party politics — it’s just an online dispute over how each drama handles, and gets judged on, its subject matter. A few replies did include blanket claims about real political parties or stances, but this article leaves those out and focuses on the exchanges that stick to discussing the shows themselves.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports Breaking News+) thread “[PR] Political Pan screenwriter: “Please don’t use our drama as a stick to beat VIVANT with… why not just watch both? 👀”“

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