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HoYoverse announced its new co-op action RPG “Nodusfall” at gamescom. The game is free-to-play, with characters unlocked through continued play rather than gacha pulls. On 5ch, this sparked a flurry of speculation about the revenue model, with comments like “So how are they gonna make money then?” and “It’s gotta be skin purchases in the end.” Users also debated which platforms it will support and how this departs from HoYoverse’s previous titles, which relied heavily on big-spending gacha systems.
What people said
World's First Hands-On with HoYoverse's New Game "Nodusfall"! Co-op Action Where You Take On Monstrous Beasts and Dragons with Divine Skills [gamescom]
www.4gamer.net/games/036/G103635/20260827010/
www.4gamer.net/games/036/G103635/20260827010/
Guess PS5's about to pop off again
I can guess it's skin purchases, but…
gear changes your look, though regular equipment doesn't have any sexy or stylish options, so maybe it's like layering paid skins over your gear or something?
gear changes your look, though regular equipment doesn't have any sexy or stylish options, so maybe it's like layering paid skins over your gear or something?
Re: #4
Skin purchases (where you can't unlock the full performance of new weapons/characters unless you pull a specific skin)
Classic move for Chinese gacha games
Skin purchases (where you can't unlock the full performance of new weapons/characters unless you pull a specific skin)
Classic move for Chinese gacha games
Japan's already got Monster Hunter Wilds anyway
Re: #5
This is probably targeting Japanese/Chinese/Korean players who've moved on from Wilds
This is probably targeting Japanese/Chinese/Korean players who've moved on from Wilds
Their games have always been built around massive gacha spending — can they actually sustain this?
A lot of battle royale PvP games have taken over the market, but who knows how this one will do
Who needs another washed-up game for creepy otaku (キモオタ = "gross otaku") anyway
— Aside from boss fights like the one shown here, what other kinds of gameplay will there be?
Dev team:
Instanced co-op content tackled with your party will be the core gameplay. Beyond that, we're preparing large RPG-style maps for progressing the story, along with various types of missions. We're also planning some small-scale PvP content.
Dev team:
Instanced co-op content tackled with your party will be the core gameplay. Beyond that, we're preparing large RPG-style maps for progressing the story, along with various types of missions. We're also planning some small-scale PvP content.
Bet every character's useless unless you gacha for their exclusive gear anyway
— This title is free-to-play, but how will players obtain characters?
Dev team:
Rather than getting characters through gacha, we've designed it so they're unlocked by continuing to play the game. As for monetization, we're considering appearance-changing items as a key element. We'll share more details on this later.
Dev team:
Rather than getting characters through gacha, we've designed it so they're unlocked by continuing to play the game. As for monetization, we're considering appearance-changing items as a key element. We'll share more details on this later.
Lol, the second it came out that it's free-to-play, Western fans started ripping into it
So then how are they gonna squeeze money out of us, I wonder?
Re: #1
Hands-on footage
x.com/4GamerNews/status/2092897413359092146
x.com/4GamerNews/status/2092915026164384252
Hands-on footage
x.com/4GamerNews/status/2092897413359092146
x.com/4GamerNews/status/2092915026164384252
Re: #29
These animations look like I've seen them somewhere before lol 😅
These animations look like I've seen them somewhere before lol 😅
I'd consider playing if the monetization doesn't affect gameplay, but it probably will
Whether it's gacha or unlocking performance through skins, any system where you can pay your way to power is trash
Whether it's gacha or unlocking performance through skins, any system where you can pay your way to power is trash
Re: #30
It's gonna be stamina/energy purchases, guaranteed (行動力 = the "action points" system common in mobile games)
It's gonna be stamina/energy purchases, guaranteed (行動力 = the "action points" system common in mobile games)
Free-to-play with no gacha — how are they even gonna turn a profit?
Re: #32
Maybe it'll end up something like this
[Genshin Impact] "Starlit Illusion" Gacha (Star Wish) Summary | Pity System and Prices
https://gamewith.jp/genshin/article/show/526543
Maybe it'll end up something like this
[Genshin Impact] "Starlit Illusion" Gacha (Star Wish) Summary | Pity System and Prices
https://gamewith.jp/genshin/article/show/526543
Re: #32
There's no character gacha, sure, but there'll definitely still be skin purchases or other gacha
There's no character gacha, sure, but there'll definitely still be skin purchases or other gacha
I really wish HoYoverse would seriously make a premium buy-once game, but I guess that's a pipe dream
Charge for DLC if you have to, just make an anime-style action game already
Charge for DLC if you have to, just make an anime-style action game already
Re: #40
No way HoYoverse ever makes a premium one-time-purchase game
No way HoYoverse ever makes a premium one-time-purchase game
They could just say they like HoYoverse like a normal person, but people who only use it as a bludgeon to bash other games are giving it the worst reputation
At that point you're basically just an anti
At that point you're basically just an anti
Re: #53
Are you new to console-war threads or something?
Are you new to console-war threads or something?
Apparently there's a platform that doesn't even get to play this lol
Re: #69
Switch: "Did someone call me?"
Xbox: "Did someone call me?"
Steam: "Did someone call me?"
Switch: "Did someone call me?"
Xbox: "Did someone call me?"
Steam: "Did someone call me?"
It's only confirmed for PC so far though
Re: #74
PC doesn't count as a platform
It'll probably only support Chinese platforms and PlayStation
PC doesn't count as a platform
It'll probably only support Chinese platforms and PlayStation
I bet it'll be centered on skin purchases, designed so paying doesn't create a power gap
Pay-to-win is hated in the West after all
Also, even if the base game is free, paid expansion content down the line is possible too
Pay-to-win is hated in the West after all
Also, even if the base game is free, paid expansion content down the line is possible too
Re: #75
That's the style a lot of recent Chinese games go for
They've probably learned that P2W doesn't last
That's the style a lot of recent Chinese games go for
They've probably learned that P2W doesn't last
So they're gonna make bank off skins and battle passes?
Doesn't look like there's enough content for that to actually work
If they roll out any "you can't win without paying" content, they'll get slammed and lose the playerbase instantly
Doesn't look like there's enough content for that to actually work
If they roll out any "you can't win without paying" content, they'll get slammed and lose the playerbase instantly
*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Console Wars)) thread “HoYoverse’s New Game Nodusfall Is Free-to-Play with No Character Gacha!“.
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