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上司「親の介護キツい」わい「うちの親は大丈夫」上司「若いなあ」少子化改善のカギは「賃金上昇」か 5ch「ほとんど金の話」で意見割れるThe story
A growing number of major Japanese companies — including Toyota, NTT, and Tokyu — are rolling out matchmaking apps as an employee benefit for their single staff. A prime example is “Aill goen,” a corporate matchmaking service that startup Aill has offered to businesses since 2021. On 5ch, users reacted with surprise (“Even big companies need this to get married?”), while others said knowing a match’s employer in advance offered peace of mind. Still, plenty of commenters questioned whether the initiative would actually do anything to fight Japan’s declining birthrate.
Published 8/27 (Thu) 5:35 AM
ITmedia Business Online
More companies are introducing “matchmaking apps” as an employee benefit. “Aill goen,” offered to businesses since 2021 by Aill (based in Nakano, Tokyo), is a matchmaking app available to single employees at client companies.
Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here
What people said
Get transferred out to the countryside while still pulling a head-office salary and you'll end up rich.
Re: #5
A friend's company would transfer guys out to the regional offices if they couldn't find a spouse in Tokyo.
Apparently it actually works.
A friend's company would transfer guys out to the regional offices if they couldn't find a spouse in Tokyo.
Apparently it actually works.
Wait, even people at big corporations can't get married without something like this?
Re: #10
Even making 10 million yen+ (~$65k+) a year at a big company, one flaw and you're out of the running.
Women you meet as a working adult are brutally picky.
Even making 10 million yen+ (~$65k+) a year at a big company, one flaw and you're out of the running.
Women you meet as a working adult are brutally picky.
Re: #10
At the end of the day they're just corporate slaves ("shachiku").
Once you're past 35 you never know when you'll get cut loose.
At the end of the day they're just corporate slaves ("shachiku").
Once you're past 35 you never know when you'll get cut loose.
These days young guys want to marry a highly-educated, high-earning career woman.
Back in the day they'd happily marry the not-so-bright junior-college grad who served tea around the office…
Back in the day they'd happily marry the not-so-bright junior-college grad who served tea around the office…
Re: #37
Junior college grads have basically disappeared these days.
As women shifted upward in education and status, "marrying up" got that much harder to do.
Junior college grads have basically disappeared these days.
As women shifted upward in education and status, "marrying up" got that much harder to do.
Getting married and buying a house have always been the corporate slave's leash (lol)
Pair everyone off so they can't run, then work them nearly to death from overtime (lol)
Pair everyone off so they can't run, then work them nearly to death from overtime (lol)
Re: #41
Used to be, the moment you built your own house they'd slap you with a solo transfer, no argument.
"You've got a home to come back to no matter where in the country we send you" — lol
Used to be, the moment you built your own house they'd slap you with a solo transfer, no argument.
"You've got a home to come back to no matter where in the country we send you" — lol
I guess the reassuring part is you can't even sign up unless you work at a decent company.
Re: #44
That's probably the biggest advantage.
Everyone on it made it through a tough hiring process, so the filtering is on a completely different level from your average matchmaking app ("machi-apu") — that gives real peace of mind.
That's probably the biggest advantage.
Everyone on it made it through a tough hiring process, so the filtering is on a completely different level from your average matchmaking app ("machi-apu") — that gives real peace of mind.
What a creepy era we live in, lol
Just handle your own love life.
Just handle your own love life.
I can already picture the future where everyone takes maternity leave and paternal/parental leave nonstop and the company just scraps this program.
I want a matchmaking app for married people.
Re: #71
>a matchmaking app for married people
Cuddle:
One of the largest services out there, with over 1 million members. Features AI-based recommendations and same-sex matching too.
Healmate:
500,000+ members. Offers 24-hour monitoring and photo-blurring, geared toward serious "second partner" searches.
Kikonsha Club (Married People's Club):
A large cumulative match count, with strong privacy protections like automatic photo blurring and message-deletion features.
>a matchmaking app for married people
Cuddle:
One of the largest services out there, with over 1 million members. Features AI-based recommendations and same-sex matching too.
Healmate:
500,000+ members. Offers 24-hour monitoring and photo-blurring, geared toward serious "second partner" searches.
Kikonsha Club (Married People's Club):
A large cumulative match count, with strong privacy protections like automatic photo blurring and message-deletion features.
Marry someone from within the company and it feels like you'd end up talking shop at home too…
Re: #79
I recall the reasoning being something like: since you know their workplace, there's more understanding of your husband's work style, and for women it's seen as a kind of background guarantee since hires often come through connections.
I recall the reasoning being something like: since you know their workplace, there's more understanding of your husband's work style, and for women it's seen as a kind of background guarantee since hires often come through connections.
I feel like all the attention just piles onto the good-looking people and this accomplishes nothing.
Same as any regular matchmaking app.
Same as any regular matchmaking app.
Re: #99
I see…
Maybe matchmaking apps are actually part of why the birthrate's falling. Huh, that tracks.
Eh, whatever, doesn't really matter.
I see…
Maybe matchmaking apps are actually part of why the birthrate's falling. Huh, that tracks.
Eh, whatever, doesn't really matter.
Wow, big companies really take care of you that much, huh.
Guess if you don't land a job at a major company right out of school, your life's basically over.
Working at a small or mid-size company really has no upside.
Guess if you don't land a job at a major company right out of school, your life's basically over.
Working at a small or mid-size company really has no upside.
Re: #103
What's in Re: #1 does feel like overkill — I can't help wondering "do you really need that?" — but
the treatment you get really is on a whole different level at a big company.
Better to shelter under a big tree, as they say…
What's in Re: #1 does feel like overkill — I can't help wondering "do you really need that?" — but
the treatment you get really is on a whole different level at a big company.
Better to shelter under a big tree, as they say…
Maybe it just means a lot of people are fine staying single.
Re: #112
I've heard people say they want to meet someone but just don't have an opening to.
I've heard people say they want to meet someone but just don't have an opening to.
Fine if it's a big company doing well, but
what happens if you're both laid off at once?
And on top of that, if the couple's holding company stock through the employee stock ownership plan,
that's putting way too many eggs in one basket.
what happens if you're both laid off at once?
And on top of that, if the couple's holding company stock through the employee stock ownership plan,
that's putting way too many eggs in one basket.
Re: #122
That's got nothing to do with the matchmaking app though, lol
That's got nothing to do with the matchmaking app though, lol
They should really slap a company logo on employees who join through this benefit.
They'd get snapped up in no time.
They'd get snapped up in no time.
Re: #137
It's not like they're enrolling employees as some kind of "benefit" exactly —
it's just matching employees across big companies with each other.
Used to be group blind dates ("gokon"), but those dried up with COVID, so I guess this is the replacement.
It's not like they're enrolling employees as some kind of "benefit" exactly —
it's just matching employees across big companies with each other.
Used to be group blind dates ("gokon"), but those dried up with COVID, so I guess this is the replacement.
Guess even at big companies like Toyota and NTT, people just aren't getting married.
Bottom line, marriage and having kids are seen as nothing but risk these days.
Bottom line, marriage and having kids are seen as nothing but risk these days.
Re: #144
Exactly.
These days, getting married means you've lost.
Exactly.
These days, getting married means you've lost.
Even at small and mid-size companies, some places actually prioritize hiring married men.
Re: #156
Though conversely, more small and mid-size companies are avoiding people with young kids because their attendance isn't reliable.
Though conversely, more small and mid-size companies are avoiding people with young kids because their attendance isn't reliable.
Anyone who's still not married at a certain age is basically a social misfit.
And it's always exactly those guys who insist, "I'm not unable to get married, I'm just choosing not to!"
And it's always exactly those guys who insist, "I'm not unable to get married, I'm just choosing not to!"
Re: #175
It'd be fine if you just took the workload off those "misfits",
but instead everyone keeps building systems that just dump more work on them —
that's why every country's birthrate policies keep failing.
It'd be fine if you just took the workload off those "misfits",
but instead everyone keeps building systems that just dump more work on them —
that's why every country's birthrate policies keep failing.
Unless you're living somewhere really rural, I'd think just living a normal life gives you normal chances to meet people and fall for someone.
Can people just not bring themselves to ask someone out on a date?
If you really have zero chances to meet anyone, maybe you're just spending too much time buried in your phone and the internet.
Can people just not bring themselves to ask someone out on a date?
If you really have zero chances to meet anyone, maybe you're just spending too much time buried in your phone and the internet.
*This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “[Matchmaking App] Toyota, NTT, and Tokyu Add “Matchmaking Apps” to Employee Benefits — Why Are Companies Supporting Their Employees’ Love Lives?“
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