Gold Medal, Yet Benched: Fans Question the Brass Band Contest’s Baffling ‘Dame-Kin’ Tradition

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The All-Japan Band Association Championship draws roughly 10,000 ensembles across four divisions — middle school, high school, university, and workplace/general — all vying for a spot in the national finals after regional contests that kick off in June. Ensembles are rated Gold, Silver, or Bronze based on performance level, but because the number of slots to advance is limited, some ensembles that win Gold still don’t get picked to move up. On 5ch, the term itself — “dame-kin” (literally “failed gold,” used for a Gold-winning ensemble that doesn’t advance) — along with the confusing selection system, drew a wave of questions and proposals, including ideas to score performances numerically or add more award tiers.

“Even though it’s a Gold Medal, they call it a ‘Dame-Kin’…” Doubts raised over the brass band contest’s puzzling custom — why can’t Gold medalists advance? We asked people in the brass band world

The 74th All-Japan Band Association Championship is about to reach its national finals. Roughly 10,000 ensembles across four divisions — middle school, high school, university, and workplace/general — entered, and since the regional contests began in June, they’ve been competing for a ticket to the nationals. Amid this, one term keeps coming up in debates on social media: “dame-kin,” used for ensembles that win Gold but still aren’t chosen to advance to the next round. Why can’t a Gold-medal ensemble move up, and how do the people involved feel about the term “dame-kin”? We spoke to people connected to brass bands.

Winning Gold at a district or regional contest but not being selected to advance to the next round — ensembles like this are called “dame-kin.”

Source: shueisha.online / Original article here

What people said

2AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:16
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4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:16
Make a 'Platinum' or 'Crystal' award for the ones who actually get picked to advance
5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:17
So it's like… you only shine on the midterm and final exams, but bomb the practice tests and the actual entrance exam?
23AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:24
Re: #5
Hmm, that's not a great comparison…
68AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:43
Re: #5
It's the same as letter grades or ◎○△ ratings. There are fixed cutoffs — score this high and you get Gold, this high and you get Silver — and that three-tier rating is announced first. Which schools advance gets announced afterward, and schools that got Gold but don't advance are the "dame-kin." As an exam analogy, it's like scoring within the passing range on the entrance exam but still getting rejected.
72AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:45
Re: #5
That's completely different. By that analogy, a dame-kin school probably wouldn't pass either test.
7AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:18
Just give Gold only to the schools that actually advance to the next round.
11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:19
Re: #7
The gap between Silver and dame-kin is so huge that there'd be real pushback against just treating dame-kin as Silver.
28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:27
Re: #11
The problem is trying to force everyone into either Gold or Silver. Just do what other competitions do — top 3 schools get Gold, Silver, and Bronze. Everyone else gets a participation award.
73AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:45
Re: #11
Honestly, forget awards at this point — just use numerical scores. You'll get it if you can do basic math.
9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:19
They should just rank everyone 1st through 10th. This whole mess started because some idiot came up with 'Gold/Silver/Bronze.'
44AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:33
Re: #9
There is a ranking — some regions just don't make it public, apparently.
10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:19
School music competitions like this are decided by the advisor's connections anyway, aren't they?
14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:21
Brass band club — a sports team wearing the skin of a 'culture club.'

I did six years of it through middle and high school, and I'll say it flat out: it's tougher than any actual sports team.
92AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:58
Re: #14
Brass band clubs eat up way too much practice time — how do they end up keeping you longer than sports teams? Even third-years give up their entire summer break and get dragged into practice through September. Sports club kids get to start studying for entrance exams once their tournament ends.
17AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:22
Do it like Super Saiyan — Gold 2, Gold 3, Gold God.
18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:22
Sounds like a name Kin-chan's show would come up with. (referencing comedian Kinichi Hagimoto, known for his show's quirky naming gimmicks)
37AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:30
Re: #18
Well, it is literally 'Hagi-kin' after all. (Hagimoto's own nickname — a pun on 'dame-kin')
20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:23
Just create a Platinum award and put it above Gold.
22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:24
Sound! Euphonium totally ignored the baseball team they were supposed to be cheering for, huh. (referencing the anime about a high school brass band)
70AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:44
Re: #22
Kitauji's baseball team is so weak there's no need to even send Monaka to cheer them on. (a character from Sound! Euphonium)
24AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
Brass band, dance, whatever — in the end, performing later in the lineup just tends to score higher.
25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
I think part of the problem is Bronze almost never gets awarded. Is there some reason they stopped using it?
33AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:29
Re: #25
The real issue is that the vast majority end up with Silver. If you're going to sort everyone into a tier no matter what, make most of them Bronze instead.
26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:25
I actually learned about this whole dame-kin thing in brass band contests through Sound! Euphonium.

Well, like Re: #1 says, even if only the bands that advance get Gold, you'd just get people going 'We played really well and we still only got Silver?!' So honestly, it's hard to say whether that's actually better than the current system with dame-kin.
27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:26
Why? Because the number of slots is limited. That's it.
29AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:27
Didn't they come up with that term themselves?
31AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:28
Do we really need a Platinum award?
57AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:39
Re: #31
Isn't platinum worth less than half of gold [by price]?
91AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:57
Re: #57
Then how about this instead —

Osmium (Os)
Weight (density):
About 22.59 g/cm³ (the densest/heaviest naturally occurring element on Earth)
Far exceeds gold's density (about 19.3 g/cm³) and even uranium's — at the same volume, it's heavier than gold.

Price:
Varies depending on supply and form (e.g., crystal form), but high-purity ingots or crystals are extremely expensive, sometimes reaching several times to several dozen times the per-gram price of gold.
32AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:28
Never gotten a dame-kin myself — every Gold I ever won at the district, prefectural, and regional level came with advancement.
69AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:44
They should just make a Platinum or Diamond award.
Think about how the kids feel — getting hyped over winning Gold and then finding out they can't advance.
78AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:48
Re: #69
Just going by what I've seen in the anime, but when Gold gets announced first, there's still a chance it'll turn out to be dame-kin, so the reaction at that point seems more like a light fist-pump. It's only after every school's result is announced, and then the schools advancing to the next contest get called out, that it turns into a real celebration.
74AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:45
If there are 5 slots, give Gold to the top 3 and Silver to the rest. Then just pick 2 more from the Silver group. Being called an 'Ike-Gin' ('made-it Silver') would actually feel pretty good.
85AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:55
Re: #74
Gold is awarded based on performance level, isn't it?
80AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:52
It's a judged event, after all — there's probably some 'grown-up circumstances' (politics) at play.
87AnonymousOct 12, 2026 13:56
Re: #80
There definitely is. A famous advisor/conductor makes it easier to advance. And the moment the advisor changes, a band can suddenly become weak.

Background and Key Points of This Topic

At the root of “dame-kin” lies the brass band contest’s rating system itself. Gold, Silver, and Bronze are announced first as an absolute evaluation of performance level, but the number of representatives who can advance to the next round is set by a fixed quota per branch or prefecture — so when more ensembles win Gold than there are available slots, some of them end up not advancing. On the thread, confusion about this system was common, with many assuming “winning Gold should mean advancing,” leading to a split between those proposing new award tiers like a Platinum award and those defending the current system, which separates absolute ratings from selection quotas. Neither the article nor the thread addresses the institutional history of why the award names and quota system haven’t been revisited over the years.

※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Geisoku Sokuho+) thread “‘Even though it’s Gold, they call it “Dame-Kin”…’ Doubts raised over the brass band contest’s puzzling custom — why can’t Gold medalists advance?“

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