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The story
At an autumn festival selling fries for 50 yen, a resident who hadn’t paid their neighborhood association dues reportedly demanded, “Sell my family fries for 50 yen too” — an anecdote published by FORZA STYLE that drew a flood of responses on 5ch’s News Speed+ board. Since the festival’s running costs come out of association dues, opinions split on whether non-members should pay the same price, and the thread saw a string of concrete proposals, from member-only discount tickets to redeemable coupons passed around via neighborhood circulars. Others simply suggested scrapping the festival altogether.
FORZA STYLE
“Humor is a gentleman’s virtue”
“Sell my family fries for 50 yen too” — the resident who brazenly shows up to the autumn festival despite unpaid dues, and the shocking response to “Who do you think paid for this?”
Source: forzastyle.com / Original article here
What people said
And it's so long, too.
Can't read long sentences, lol
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then set a higher price for walk-up buyers on the day.
That might actually work
Hand out a "festival passport" to people who've paid their dues, and sell to them at a member price lower than the posted general price
Even flashing a festival passport would probably be fun for the kids
A priority-ticket system would solve a lot of this
If you're not a member, you wouldn't even know about it anyway
But the shameless types would probably just ask a member to buy tickets for them
hand out tickets through the neighborhood association,
and give a discount to anyone holding one
A voucher feels fairer and easier to accept than a straight handout
They should just do this. Hand out tickets to members, and charge non-members roughly a year's worth of association dues for it.
Must be a neighborhood of like 100 people
Actually you can't say that
There was a ruling that you're allowed to put out trash even without paying association dues
since it's the city that collects it
They chase down the non-payers, so everyone knows their faces
Re: #20
That might be true if the city set up the trash collection point, but where I live the neighborhood association set it up, and the stance is non-members have to deal with the city directly and haul it to a facility themselves
Then why not just move the collection point onto a member's private property?
Uh… that's a level of garbage situation I wouldn't want to live with either way…
Guess that's the worst-case rural example, Kagoshima City huh
In Kagoshima City, even residents who aren't in a neighborhood association legally have the right to have their trash collected by the city. However, local garbage stations are often run by the neighborhood association, which covers the land permission, management, and cleaning costs, so denying this right can become illegal and lead to disputes.
Trash management of all things
Such a rural-area thing
Just don't freeload then
Just let whoever wants to do it get together and hold it in a park
The point is that non-members show up to buy from the festival that's already happening, isn't it
and only display the non-member price at the stall
Who's going to bother doing something that tedious
Honestly nobody even wants to run the festival in the first place, lol
"General public: 500 yen" would be fine
Dual pricing is becoming pretty normal these days
You've gotta stay flexible about that kind of thing
There are plenty of jerks out there after all
You can actually get paid to write this?
It's a technique where they deliberately leave in things to nitpick so the thread keeps growing
They've gotten clever about it
And if you still want to sell to the kid from a non-paying household, fine, just don't complain about it at all afterward. Honestly this whole thing just looks like someone pulling an attention-seeking move because they wanted something to complain about.
Say you give out 5 coupons per household
The kid might just hand some to a non-member friend
That just makes things more complicated
Nobody ever says anything either way
There is one, but it's almost always explicitly limited to households that pay the residents'/neighborhood association fees! ← this part matters
So switching to a local currency instead of cash would solve it
Not 50 yen, but 50 Gold
To get Gold, please pay your neighborhood association dues
But
that sounds like a hassle
Same problem as the coupons though — if it gets passed around to someone else, it spirals out of control
My neighborhood association passes notices around to non-member households too, for what it's worth
Things like road construction notices
or bear sightings and Namahage attack warnings (Namahage: folklore demon-like figures from Akita who visit homes during New Year's events)
Akita Prefecture folks are so kind
My neighborhood skips those houses
figuring they're people who don't want to be involved with any of that
Luckily neither bears nor Namahage have attacked us
Dues are 2,700 yen a year, so I pay 8,100 yen — for dual-income couples that's honestly better
than getting dragged into trash cleanup duty on your day off
The old folks use that money to buy tea and have get-togethers with people they know, too
And they still give out snacks during the Jizo-bon festival (a local Buddhist-rooted summer festival honoring the guardian deity Jizo)
Solving it with money is the way to go
Background and Key Points of This Debate
Joining a neighborhood association is legally voluntary rather than mandatory, but in many municipalities association dues effectively fund local infrastructure like festivals and garbage collection points, which naturally breeds a sense of unfairness toward non-members. On trash collection specifically, as the Kagoshima City example raised in the thread illustrates, municipal collection itself extends to non-members, but in cases where the neighborhood association sets up and manages the garbage station, non-members can be refused access — and where that legal line falls varies by region. The thread split over who should bear the cost and hassle of setting up member pricing: some proposed concrete fixes like ticket systems or redemption coupons passed through neighborhood circulars, while skeptics argued it would just create more administrative work. Whether to join a neighborhood association is ultimately each person’s own choice, but the fairness question — once you factor in how festival revenue is actually structured — turns out to be far less settled than it looks, and isn’t something a simple “cheater or not” framing can resolve.
*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[FORZA] “Sell my family fries for 50 yen too” — the resident who brazenly shows up to the autumn festival despite unpaid dues, and the shocking response to “Who do you think paid for this?”.”
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