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Overseas analytics firm Alinea Analytics estimated that the Xbox-exclusive title ‘Gears E-Day’ sold around 230,000 copies in its first week, sparking discussion on 5ch’s hardware/industry board (Geha). Thread participants pointed out that this figure doesn’t include the 722,000 Game Pass upgrades, suggesting the real number of paying users could be around 950,000. At the same time, many voiced doubts about the reliability of Alinea Analytics’ estimates themselves, and the debate spread to how the numbers should even be interpreted.
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Re: #71
Can't even read, huh, you creep (5ch slang insult).
So overall it's still short of a million…
Enough with this garbage source already.
[Sad news for Nintendo fanboys] "Marvel's Wolverine" apparently sold 6.16 million copies lol
https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1791588169/
They're really cranking out the fabricated puppet show this morning, huh.
It's getting harder for campaign-focused TPS games to stand out from the rest.
This studio's getting shut down 100%.
Courtesy of Asha, the god of destruction (5ch nickname for a Microsoft/Xbox exec blamed for studio closures).
yet here's Mr. Creep running from reality.
The claim that it's "the hot topic" is already a lie.
Typical lying "Kizu-Ryutsu Namapo-kun" (5ch nickname for a poster known for spreading fake sales/distribution claims).
That's worldwide numbers, lol.
so they should've released it on PS too, just to grow the player base even a little.
Deep down you're just begging "gimme gimme."
That kind of thing doesn't mean anything —
Asha herself said their profit is only a tenth of other companies',
remember?
The gaming division is already back on a growth track.
If it didn't matter, they wouldn't bother releasing a Game Pass upgrade path.
https://alineaanalytics.substack.com/p/wolverine-sells-19m-despite-the-online
Alinea Analytics: "Gears sells 230K, even Game Pass Day 1 might be over"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HUM0H-pXwAAn2ye.jpg
It's painfully obvious which company's paying for these headlines, lol.
Anyone who buys a game that's already on Game Pass is kind of a fool, so this is about right.
Though that's the same outlet that said Saros only sold 300,000.
You keep dragging that point out, but you're the only one who's actually stung by it.
Asking this neutrally, but I see this site cited a lot on Geha — is it actually reliable?
This just seems way too low for sales.
Steam concurrent players were at 30K, so maybe that tracks?
Or is everyone else playing it on Game Pass and just not getting counted?
It's the only outlet in the world claiming Wolverine "sold a whopping 1.9 million copies" when everyone else is reporting it bombed hard — so yeah, totally reliable!
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It's just Steam-only stats, and Game Pass users' revenue isn't counted at all.
And calling it an "estimate" is already a stretch — it's basically fantasy.
They're over there building Skytowers just to tear them down, so there's no way they're turning a profit.
I expect it to stay dead last from here on out.
Last Black Friday, this trash can (Xbox) lost to the Nex Playground and came in 4th place.
The guy doing the tallying keeps saying "Saros being exclusive boosts the platform's appeal, sales numbers don't matter," while in the same breath chanting "put Gears on PS5" over and over.
The problem is it doesn't include Game Pass users' revenue, so it's just not credible.
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
The figure at the center of this discussion is an estimate that overseas analytics firm Alinea Analytics worked backward from earnings data and the like — it is not an official statistic released by the platform itself. Because Xbox’s business model leans more on monthly Game Pass subscriptions than on traditional retail sales, a simple “units sold” figure can’t capture the real number of users, and that became the thread’s central point of contention. Indeed, comment 3 showed that, separate from retail sales, there were more than 722,000 Game Pass upgrades, highlighting just how hard a simple comparison is. Notably, the same Alinea Analytics had, just days earlier, estimated sales of the PS5-exclusive title ‘Marvel’s Wolverine’ at 1.9 million copies, and several posts in the thread questioned the consistency and reliability of these estimates.
※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “Gears E-DAY sells 230K units — a huge bang of a flop wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.”
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