Are Today’s Hit Songs Too “Frantic”? 5ch Debates Music for the “Dopamine Kid” Generation

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An article that used the term “dopa-gaki” (dopamine kids) — applying young people’s social-media- and short-video-honed craving for constant stimulation to recent hit songs — became a hot topic on 5ch’s Geinou/Sports News+ board. Against the claim that today’s hits by acts like Mrs. GREEN APPLE, M!LK, and CANDY TUNE are “packed with too many notes and feel frantic,” the thread saw nostalgic voices for Showa-era pop and ’90s J-POP clash with pushback along the lines of “people have said the same thing in every era.” The discussion also spread to whether any of today’s songs will be remembered by later generations, and to the state of music overseas.

Why Are Today’s Hit Songs So “Restless”? The Music of the “Dopa-Gaki” Era, as Seen in Mrs. GREEN APPLE, M!LK, and CANDY TUNE

Lately you hear the term “dopa-gaki” (dopamine kids) a lot. It’s a mocking term for young people who can’t put their phones down, constantly feeding on stimulation from social media and short-form video — likened to dopamine addicts.

Some view this tendency — losing the ability to spend time savoring a novel or a film, with the mind instead darting straight to momentary pleasure — as a social problem.

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

What people said

3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:31
That's where Showa-era pop comes in.
57AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:45
Re: #3
Showa pop is great.
My parents watch those enka-singer shows, and the songs performed there are good too.
Stuff like "Bus Stop," group songs — tons of classics.
72AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:48
Re: #57
Two years ago they rebroadcast the entire 1971 (Showa 46) Kohaku Uta Gassen, and I recorded it and still have it saved.
Japanese music that year was truly a banner year.
5AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:33
Got no money
Got no brains
Don't have a single close friend

I'm headed to Tokyo, I am


Nah, don't come here, seriously (riffing on Yoshi Ikuzou's classic 1984 song "Ora Tokyo Sa Iguda" / "I'm Off to Tokyo")
6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:33
Music now is better than it was back around 2010.
7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:33
So that's why I don't like recent songs.
Glad I'm not a dopa-gaki.
8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:33
City pop is trending at the same time too, so isn't that fine? There's room for all kinds of music.
65AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:46
Re: #8
It feels less like genuine love and more like "I heard it's popular overseas, so let's give it a listen."
10AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:34
That's because the production style is straight out of the Vocaloid generation.
11AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:34
Way too many notes crammed in, it's just noisy.
12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:34
J-POP had a lot of great songs in the 1990s.
13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:35
"Music these days…!" — people have been saying that for decades.
14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:35
It all comes down to play counts now — just a matter of how many idiots will loop it on repeat.
16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:35
Songs made purely to sell just don't cut it anymore.
17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:35
Are you making fun of monotonous K-POP?
18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:36
If you don't like today's songs, just go listen to Hide & Rosanna (a 1970s duo) or something.
19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:36
Didn't someone say there are young people reacting against that by retreating into Showa-era pop?
22AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:37
They just wanted an excuse to say "dopa-gaki."
35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:40
Someone like Ado is really just screaming, honestly.
37AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:41
Re: #35
That just means you only know that type of song.

Besides, even among widely-known songs, they're not all like that.
36AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:40
At the very least, there are almost no songs people will still hum decades later.
Take Akina Nakamori, for example — she was more an idol than an artist, yet some of her songs are still known today. What about Mrs. GREEN APPLE and the rest?
39AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:41
Re: #36
People were saying the exact same thing about her back then too — that stuff like that wouldn't last for later generations.
49AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:43
Re: #36
Why is Akina Nakamori even the comparison here, lol.
38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:41
Kawarabo fizzled out in an instant, huh (a slang nickname for a group/trend).
43AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:42
Re: #38
Even though it's supposedly "over," breaking arena tour records is impressive.
Everyone else looks pathetic by comparison.
55AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:44
Re: #38
For this year's Kohaku, Furuppa (nickname) will probably get to perform again.
Kyanchu (nickname for CANDY TUNE), though, is a stretch.
44AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:42
Aren't AKB's songs from their peak era — which got trashed way worse at the time — actually better than today's idol songs?
51AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:44
Re: #44
They got slammed for "making minors sing lyrics like this."
54AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:44
Re: #44
It's just turning into "things were better back then."
52AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:44
Nogizaka46's songs aren't aimed at dopa-gaki and have plenty of good ones, it's a shame they don't get heard.
62AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:46
Re: #52
That's because the public wants Jiro-style ramen, but they're serving trendy boutique ramen instead (Ramen Jiro: a famously hearty, no-frills ramen chain, used here as a metaphor for substance over style).
71AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:47
Re: #52
Idol group songs do have some good ones if you actually listen.
It's just that I deliberately avoid them, and when I see them singing on TV it just looks like a chorus line reciting information, so I switch it off.

I record Kohaku and watch it later, and that's often the first time I hear a song and think, "oh, this one's actually good."
59AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:45
Despite having so many notes packed in, nothing sticks, so I never end up memorizing it.
Meanwhile, Boogieman's "PACHINKO・MAN" — a song I found annoying 34 years ago and still don't even like — I can hum it instantly. Why is that?
66AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:46
Re: #59
Because you were sensitive and still young back then.
73AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:48
This isn't just Japan.
The US and UK are the same way.
81AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:49
Re: #73
Even in America the top-charting stuff is "that," but country music still sells at a steady clip.

Though these days "country" often has rap mixed into it, so it might look pretty different from what you'd expect, lol.
74AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:48
Spitz, after all.
85AnonymousOct 10, 2026 09:50
Re: #74
Ever since Aimyon publicly said she's a Spitz fan, Spitz otaku have suddenly multiplied.
The annoying part is they all act like "oh, I've always loved them."

Background and Key Points of This Discussion

“Dopa-gaki” is a coined term for young people accustomed to the stimulation of social media and short-form video, and the original article used it to analyze the composition of recent hit songs. What divided the thread was whether today’s songs are genuinely overloaded with notes and thin on substance, or whether posters were simply repeating the nostalgic cliché that “music these days is no good.” Comparisons were drawn to Akina Nakamori and AKB48’s peak-era songs, but some pointed out that AKB’s songs were likewise criticized at the time for their lyrics and staging — suggesting the “things were better back then” argument has repeated itself across generations regardless. A comment also claimed country music maintains a certain level of popularity in the US, but this was a single opinion within the thread, and no supporting statistics appeared in the original article.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Why Are Today’s Hit Songs So “Restless”…? The Music of the “Dopa-Gaki” Era, as Seen in Mrs. GREEN APPLE, M!LK, and CANDY TUNE.”

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