Morning Musume。’26 Sapporo Show: Floor Seats Still Unsold Days Before Showtime — 5ch: ‘Losing Marai Left a Huge Hole’

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The story

Ahead of Morning Musume。’26’s autumn tour “Chou Heartful 11” stop at Sapporo Bunka Geijutsu Gekijou hitaru on October 25, posters on 5ch’s Hello! Project board reported that tickets were still available as far in as row 28 of the floor section — solidly mid-venue seating. The thread split between two theories: that overall attendance has simply dropped now that fans of Makino Maria, who graduated this year, are gone, and that the four newly added 18th-generation members haven’t built up enough of a fanbase yet. The debate centered on whether the group can turn things around starting with the next tour.

What people said

1AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:11
Hyper empty-house concert confirmed lol ("gara-con" — 5ch slang for a show with a half-empty venue)
What are they even gonna do about this lol
2AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:13
Related thread

[GOOD NEWS] Juice=Juice LIVE TOUR 2026 UP TO 11 · Zepp Sapporo (Hokkaido), all-standing capacity 2,009 — matinee show SOLD OUT キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1776839702/

[GOOD NEWS] Juice=Juice LIVE TOUR 2026 UP TO 11 · Zepp Sapporo (Hokkaido), all-standing capacity 2,009 — evening show SOLD OUT キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1777068989/
5AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:15
Re: #2
That's the thread for Angerme's empty-house shows, buddy lol
54AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:32
Re: #2
2,000 people in Hokkaido?
That's genuinely top-tier
4AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:14
The analysis is already done:
That Makino Maria you all clown on actually had a ton of wota (die-hard fans)
Now that she's graduated, Musume.'s total fanbase has shrunk
Whether the 4 new members can grow their own fanbase is what's left to see
10AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:17
Re: #4
Even the birthday event is dead empty
25AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:28
Re: #4
Same time of year, same venue every year, and they still get mercy-ruled by Ebata
7AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:16
They should've played it safe and just booked Kanamoto Hall or the Kyoiku Bunka Kaikan instead
8AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:16
Re: #1
This is what a year of hard-shilling Fukumura and Ishida gets you

This is what 24 years of hard-shilling Tsunku gets you
15AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:19
Re: #8
Ikuta and Oda are both gone now too
11AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:18
Ma-chan, save us!
50AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:20
Re: #11
'Sato Masaki Fan Club Event 2026 — YES or NO' at Hitotsubashi Hall: same-day tickets now on sale for both sessions
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1790319682/
13AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:18
Isn't Panda actually popular though?
Too bad the 'cousins duo' don't get a hometown homecoming show then
14AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:18
Seeing them let non-members book consecutive seats after Oda's graduation, looks like they've basically waved the white flag — next year's when Juice=Juice's flagship era really kicks off
16AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:20
Just give hitaru to Juice already
17AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:23
Guess Up-Front's raking it in if the useless small-fry agency can bleed money on Musume. and Angerme without even flinching!
18AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:23
Why doesn't Juice — the flagship group with two Hokkaido natives in the lineup — play hitaru?
Every seat would sell out instantly right now
19AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:23
Back when Sato was in the group they used to fill it up to the 4th floor…
21AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:25
Is Panda popular or not, make up your mind
23AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:27
Re: #21
Final answer: she's only got deep popularity with a small core of 'omaitsu' regulars (fans who attend every single show) — no broader reach
22AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:25
Rough that Juice doesn't even get a Hokkaido show to begin with
24AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:27
Hard to believe they used to fill it up to the 4th floor
27AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:29
'Sato Masaki Fan Club Event 2026 — YES or NO' at Hitotsubashi Hall: same-day tickets now on sale for both sessions
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1790319682/
29AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:30
Re: #27
Just answer Yes or No already 😭😭😭
40AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:47
Re: #27
If even Sato's at this point, once Panda graduates from Musume. she won't have a career in showbiz either
28AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:30
Where did everyone who used to sit on the 3rd and 4th floors go?
30AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:30
In the end it's probably just this:

Panda: 'Ah, guess it's a good thing I'm in Morning Musume. after all.'
31AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:31
Makino Maria had thousands of fans.
The 18th-gen members don't even have 500 yet.
It's simply that gap.
42AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:51
Re: #31
If that were true, the birthday events would be packed
33AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:34
Losing Maria-chan really left a huge hole
34AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:35
I don't care about your emotional arguments.
I'm just talking simple audience math.
The Maria fans who used to show up aren't coming this time, so the numbers are down. Simple subtraction.
35AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:36
Just wait, Suumo's gonna win the wota back for us
43AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:52
Re: #35
Saw her on Rimi Sta and Suumo's insane
They picked a good one
36AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:37
Spring

[SHOCKING] Morning Musume。'26's spring tour Hokkaido stop at Sapporo Bunka Geijutsu Gekijou hitaru — a venue with 4 floors — is currently selling FLOOR SEATS lmaoooooo
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1774662844/1

1 Nameless (Name Pending) 2026/03/28 (Sat) 10:54:04.56 0
Matinee


Evening


Seating chart
57AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:35
Re: #36
Wonder if they're just not using the side sections of the floor this time

Background and Talking Points

Morning Musume. goes through generational turnover via graduations every year, and it’s not unusual for the tour right after a popular member’s departure to see a temporary dip in attendance. The figures floated in the thread — “Makino Maria had thousands of fans, the 18th-gen members have under 500” — are purely anonymous-board speculation, not an official released number, so that should be kept in mind. Some posters compared this to Juice=Juice’s Zepp Sapporo shows (capacity roughly 2,000), which were reported sold out around the same time, but hitaru and Zepp Sapporo differ in size and seating layout, so they can’t be directly compared as a simple measure of drawing power. Ticket sales are also shaped by complex sales schemes like member pre-sales and seating blocks, so it’s hard to conclude popularity is up or down from the bare fact that “floor row 28 is still on sale.”

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Morning Musume。’26 Autumn Concert Tour “Chou Heartful 11” 10/25 (Sun) Sapporo Bunka Geijutsu Gekijou hitaru — Floor Row 28 Still On Sale wwwwwwwww.”

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