Maria Makino Graduated Almost Six Months Ago — Why Hasn’t the ‘Marian Withdrawal’ Hit?

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A thread was started asking why, after Maria Makino’s graduation from Morning Musume, there’s still no sign of “Marian withdrawal” (fans missing her), when “Sayumi Michishige withdrawal” and “Masaki Sato withdrawal” were both clearly visible within months of their respective graduations. Posters pointed to her heavy media exposure on shows like Lovit and to the fact she was already known more as a baseball fan than as an idol, while opinions split over the circumstances of her graduation.

1Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:05:37.56
You could spot "Chayu withdrawal" (Sayumi Michishige's nickname) and "Ma-chan withdrawal" (Masaki Sato's nickname) popping up about 3 months after they graduated,
but I've never once heard of "Marian withdrawal"! Not a peep!
2Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:07:11.00
Probably because she didn't actually retire.
If she'd retired for real, it'd be a totally different story.
68Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 14:44:34.78
>>2
Wait, did Sato retire?
4Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:07:56.56
Because you can still catch her all the time on shows like Lovit.
5Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:09:49.77
She was always more "the baseball girl" than a group member to begin with.
9Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:13:44.82
>>5
Exactly!
She's not "Morning Musume's resident baseball fan" —
she's "a die-hard baseball otaku who just happened to end up in Hello! Project."
12Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:16:06.30
Once it became nothing but baseball, baseball, baseball,
everyone had already checked out.
24Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:22:29.08
Because she's on TV practically every week.
30Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:25:51.89
>>24
And yet zero buzz about it lol
25Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:22:44.16
Hello! Project fans had already forgotten her by the 2-month mark,
so there's no way they'd suddenly remember her at 3 months.
27Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:24:19.19
Probably because you can find her literally anywhere.
31Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:25:52.18
Wasn't it the "my microwave broke" story that drove fans away? (an anecdote of hers fans found off-putting)
73Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 15:12:17.92
>>31
No, fans drifted off over the Hikaru Genji thing. (a boy band she's a fan of)
32Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:26:36.36
She's more in the public eye now than she ever was as a Musume member.
35Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:27:31.74
>>32
Are the stadium stands really "the public eye," though?
33Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:26:46.64
Appearing on Lovit — aka "Oha Suta for NEETs" — is basically her reason for living. (Oha Suta is a kids' morning show; the joke is Lovit fills the same slot for unemployed adults)
34Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:27:14.77
You don't get to call her "despised"
unless you're talking about someone who has 1.9 million fewer followers than their former groupmate
on both Instagram and YouTube.
36Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:28:01.54
>>34
Quit it, you'll make the guy desperately spamming posts cry.
38Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:29:57.61
Antis start a thread about her every single day, so there's no way she's been forgotten lol
39Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:30:21.69
With "Drum Onee-san" gone, the baseball segments are now going to Anmi and Honoho instead. (nickname referencing Makino's taiko drumming at ballgames)
40Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:30:54.07
She should just hurry up and switch agencies already.
43Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:38:38.54
>>40
She's one of Kawabe's people, so she's not moving until the 30th anniversary. (Kawabe, a Hello! Project executive)
48Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:47:22.43
>>40
You want her to move to Yoshimoto and end up like the ones who only ever get stuck with "yogore" work? (Yoshimoto Kogyo, a comedy talent agency; "yogore" means messy, humiliating stunt-comedy gigs)
42Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:36:19.27
Simple answer:
because she's always on TV.
45Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:39:36.11
Still can't quite tell whether she was pushed out or left on her own.
49Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:53:44.20
>>45
Being graduated just 2 months after the announcement was clearly a rushed firing.
50Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 12:59:11.96
She's been working nonstop without a single gap, so there's no room to even feel the loss.
52Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 13:01:31.39
>>50
So you're saying her work as an idol never mattered anyway?
55Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 13:15:26.24
Same as how there was never any "Ikuta withdrawal" either. (Erina Ikuta, another former member)
59Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 13:26:00.97
Even the antis can't stop talking about her — sounds like they're going through withdrawal too lol
66Anonymous2026/08/24(月) 14:05:19.20
>>59
Right, lol
The antis are the ones saying "Makino, Makino" nonstop more than anyone lol

*This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “It’s Been Almost Six Months Since Maria Makino Graduated — Why Isn’t ‘Marian Withdrawal’ Happening?”.

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