“Do I Smell?” Why Perfectionists Can’t Stop Worrying About Their Own Body Odor — and How to Cope

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The story

An Asahi Shimbun article about people who suffer from the conviction that they smell bad drew a wave of responses on 5ch’s News Express+ board. The piece is based on an interview with Professor Kenji Shimizu of Hiroshima International University and examines the psychology behind believing “I smell” even when there’s little to no actual odor. The thread quickly filled with personal stories about age-related body odor and sweat smells, along with tips on laundry tricks and antiperspirants — but pointed remarks that “you can’t smell your own odor” and jabs at other people’s body odor soon took over, turning what should have been a serious topic into a free-for-all about who stinks.

Posted 9/6 (Sun) 8:30 AM

Asahi Shimbun

Our bodies give off odors. Even when there’s actually no smell — or only a faint one — some people become convinced “I smell bad” and suffer deeply over it. How should those affected, and the people around them, deal with this? We spoke with Kenji Shimizu, a professor at Hiroshima International University specializing in clinical psychology.

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

What people said

2AnonymousSep 6, 2026 12:49
Buildings full of crusty old people always stink.
5AnonymousSep 6, 2026 12:49
You guys seriously reek, you know that?
8AnonymousSep 6, 2026 12:50
Re: #5
You're bald, aren't you?!
9AnonymousSep 6, 2026 12:51
Sounds like another 'essay' that's about to blow up.
96AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:14
Re: #9
Must be nice, filling up pages with junk articles like this.
16AnonymousSep 6, 2026 12:52
If your earwax is wet, you've got the body-odor-prone (armpit odor/wakiga) type, so go get surgery.
Even if you say "I keep it under control, I'm not smelly," physically you still have apocrine glands.
To put it in terms everyone can picture: it's like puff pastry.

But well… most Japanese people have the dry, flaky earwax type, so if yours is wet…

I'm the daughter of an ENT doctor, so take this as one rough guideline, for what it's worth.
118AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:20
Re: #16
My earwax isn't wet, but my armpits still stink.
30AnonymousSep 6, 2026 12:57
When someone reeking of that damp-laundry smell gets on the train, there's nowhere to escape — it's unbearable.

Can they really not notice it themselves?
46AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:02
Re: #30
Nope, you really can't.
You think 'ugh, this smells' when you put the clothes on, but only in that moment.
33AnonymousSep 6, 2026 12:58
Just take a bath first.
43AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:01
Re: #33
Just taking a bath at night isn't enough — night sweats will make age-related body odor smell plenty bad.
My parent suddenly started smelling without changing anything else in their routine.

I used to think 'don't wash it together with Dad's laundry!' was harsh on him, but
it turns out body odor really does transfer onto clothes.
I never imagined that even with detergent and a washing machine, body odor could still transfer like that.
50AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:02
Re: #43
What era are you living in?
The cause of the smell has already been figured out —
just use antibacterial detergent, body soap, and antiperspirant.
59AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:04
Re: #43
You should always add one cap of oxygen bleach to your laundry.
I recommend the liquid OxiClean.
44AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:01
They say you can't notice your own smell.
And hardly anyone will tell you to your face either.
You guys reek.
60AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:04
Re: #44
I think Mom's the only one who'll actually tell you.
Mom is the safety net.
67AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:06
But seriously, you guys stink.
Brush your teeth properly, and in the bath, take your time really scrubbing behind your ears, the back of your neck, armpits, groin, hip area, and soles of your feet.
69AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:07
Re: #67
Still not enough.
Even guys should always wipe the tip after using the toilet.
81AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:10
I didn't run into anyone with armpit odor this summer.
Guess deodorant technology has really improved.
85AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:11
Re: #79
If there's a smell, it might be the clothes.
Once in a while you get someone giving off that damp-laundry odor.
104AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:17
Re: #85
I soak everything in OxiClean and always dry it in the dryer.
I clean the washing machine often too.
No matter what I do, it still smells.
90AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:13
You guys would probably be thrilled if you found out your body odor was actually reaching someone (´・ω・`)
95AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:14
Re: #90
No way ((´・ω・`))9m
98AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:15
Even clothes that smell start reeking again within an hour of wearing them, no matter how properly you wash and dry them.
99AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:16
Re: #98
That's probably some kind of armpit-odor (wakiga) thing.
105AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:17
Re: #98
Bacteria left behind from sweat means that sweet-sour smell comes right back even after washing.
For that, soak the clothes in hot water before washing and the smell disappears.
135AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:25
It's pointless for 5ch uncles (older regulars) to worry about smelling bad at this point.
141AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:27
Re: #135
The more pointless someone is, the more they tend to think that way.
153AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:34
There are quite a few middle-aged guys out there with breath that smells like a sewer. What are they even eating?
156AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:35
Re: #153
Gum disease.
Their teeth are rotting.
184AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:49
Re: #153
A smell that's different from normal bad breath
is more likely to mean stomach cancer or a stomach ulcer.
227AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:12
Re: #153
If they're actually taking proper care of their teeth,
it might just be a dry mouth.
Drinking a little tea can be enough to make the smell go away.
165AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:38
If you warn someone who genuinely has bad breath about it, they get defensive and start saying 'you smell too.'
171AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:40
Re: #165
The smell was like dried-up saliva, so I told her to drink water — turned out it was actually the smell of her period.

Background and Key Points of This Discussion

Olfactory reference syndrome (fear of one’s own body odor) is a condition in which someone becomes strongly convinced they smell bad — despite having little or no actual odor — to the point that it disrupts their relationships with others; it has been linked to perfectionist personality traits and strong social anxiety. The original article is an expert interview focused on this psychological angle, but the thread’s focus drifted, centering instead on coping tips and personal anecdotes about people who genuinely do smell. While plenty of advice piled up about improving age-related odor and damp-laundry smell through laundry techniques and antiperspirants, neither the article nor the thread spent much time on the fact that armpit odor (wakiga) is largely genetic and often can’t be solved through personal effort alone. The point that “it’s hard to notice your own smell” is considered medically valid, and the fact that people around you rarely point it out directly is thought to be one reason the anxiety drags on for those affected.

*This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread ““Do I Smell?” Why Perfectionists Can’t Stop Worrying About Their Own Body Odor — and How to Cope.”

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