Alphard used car prices tumble, inventory quintuples — 5ch: “They’ll still nail you on the residual loan”

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The story

TV Asahi-affiliated news reported that used-car prices for the Toyota Alphard are falling even as inventory has swollen to more than five times last year’s level. The report’s central question is why used prices would drop in a market where new-car sales are said to be strong. On 5ch, this sparked concrete discussion of how residual-value loans (“zan-kure”) work and the conditions under which extra fees kick in when the car is returned. Opinions also split on the Alphard’s design, its reputation as an “image-driven car,” and just who actually drives one.

Used Alphard prices fall, inventory more than quintuples — why, in a booming market?

9/4 (Fri) 12:18 JST

TV Asahi Network (ANN)

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / original article here

What people said

14AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:45
Well, it's good news for people who need a car right away after flood damage — easier to get one now
22AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:46
Re: #14
What are you even gonna do with a flood car that can't drive?
53AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:51
Re: #14
Imagine buying it and it turns out to be a flood-damaged one, that'd be a bad laugh
19AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:46
Hiace
Prius
Alphard

Cars swept away by their own image
69AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:53
Re: #19
In the countryside it's the Crown
The "Prius rocket"
The residual-loan Alphard

They're all Toyotas lol
33AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:48
So what happens with the residual loan? Is it gonna be an extra-charge festival?
90AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:55
Re: #33
They'll probably find some excuse to squeeze even more money out of you
39AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:49
The Fairlady Z NISMO dropped too — was around 8 million yen last year, now it's down in the low 6 millions
46AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:50
Re: #39
The Z is nice, I'd want one as a second car
40AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:49
Everyone buys new on a residual loan and dumps it after 3 years
76AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:54
Re: #40
They're not selling it — they're giving up and returning it
59AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:52
So does that mean, like, the trade-in was set at 3 million but it's dropped to 2 million by the time you return it? Is that how it works??
78AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:54
Re: #59
No — the residual-loan contract guarantees the trade-in price upfront. So even if the market price after 3 years is lower than agreed, it's the dealer who eats the loss, not you
60AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:52
You just hand the car back and get hit with an extra 2 million yen at return time, right?

Just take out a loan
68AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:53
Re: #60
They take your car and now I gotta open a "Lawson" too? (pun on rōn/"loan" and the Lawson convenience-store chain) That's the worst
67AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:53
Re: #46
Only the NISMO trim has dropped, the other grades haven't budged. The price gap with the lower grade used to be over 3 million yen and now it's down to about 500,000 — so is the NISMO… trash?
86AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:55
Re: #67
With the minor update, the NISMO finally got a manual transmission, and the front brakes now match the GT-R's. Guess rich guys will trade up for it?
84AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:55
Cars you actually see driving around town these days
Alphard
Prius
N-BOX
111AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:57
Re: #84
I see a lot of Lapins too for some reason
99AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:56
Re: #78
They'll point out scratches, dirt, whatever, and lowball you on the price
139AnonymousSep 4, 2026 21:00
Re: #99
They don't pull sketchy rental-car-company moves, it's a proper dealer. And honestly, small scratches only knock off about 10,000 yen per spot — the rule of thumb is basically "deep enough to catch your fingernail on"
108AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:57
Re: #86
Automatic transmission
Manual transmission

They're both "transmissions," you know
153AnonymousSep 4, 2026 21:02
Re: #108
6-speed transmission

Happy now?
126AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:58
Seems like everyone and their dog drives an Alphard
The ownership rate among "yankees" (delinquent/biker-gang subculture types) is oddly high
207AnonymousSep 4, 2026 21:07
Re: #126
They're heavily used as executive cars in banking and finance. When you're waiting around at meeting venues, including chartered hire cars, it's roughly 60% Alphard, 40% Crown. Very occasionally you'll spot a Vellfire too
129AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:58
Build quality feels cheap but the price is way too high.
I'd rather have a Hiace or a Delica.
135AnonymousSep 4, 2026 20:59
Re: #129
Are you dissing Nissan?
150AnonymousSep 4, 2026 21:00
Re: #135
Can't help it, the Caravan is trash
159AnonymousSep 4, 2026 21:02
Re: #150
Not the "space police" one — the one that came out recently. Forgot the name
157AnonymousSep 4, 2026 21:02
Isn't the Alphard just kind of tacky though? That ridiculous "tower-condo" grille, the nonsensical chrome trim on the B-pillar, plus that skirt on the rear end — it's like an overdone old lady, reeks of try-hard
180AnonymousSep 4, 2026 21:04
Re: #157
You'd get it if you actually drove one — for that body size, it drives so normally it makes the first-gen Odyssey look outdated by comparison. The suspension isn't floaty and bouncy like a Cedric/Gloria or Crown. The fact that it drives like a completely ordinary car is honestly impressive in its own way
196AnonymousSep 4, 2026 21:06
Re: #157
It's less about tacky-or-not and more that it was a genuinely fresh design built around "sheer convenience." Minivans were already popular with families, but a big van is also extremely handy for corporate use (including for presidents and executives). Because that format is so practical, other automakers kept rolling out similar designs, so the Alphard's rarity value has eroded relative to the rest of the field

Background and key points of this discussion

A residual-value loan (“zan-kure”) is structured so that when the car is returned after, say, three years, the dealer — not the customer — generally absorbs the difference if the market price has fallen below the pre-agreed residual value. The thread includes a correcting reply noting that “it’s the dealer who takes the loss, not the customer,” so the assumption that falling prices automatically mean the user gets hit with extra charges isn’t quite accurate. That said, it’s worth noting as fact that reduced valuations for scratches or dirt are a separate matter and can genuinely occur. As for why used inventory has swollen fivefold, possible factors include a batch of residual-loan contracts from a few years back reaching their return date, or the model’s initial rarity fading after a redesign — but the article itself doesn’t state this explicitly, so it remains speculation from the thread. The debate over the Alphard’s design and who actually drives one is likewise just impression and opinion, not backed by any statistics.

*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “[Automobiles] Used Alphard prices fall, inventory more than quintuples — why, in a booming market?

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