Truck Turning Left Rear-Ended by Straight-Driving Car — Dashcam Footage Sparks “Who’s at Fault?” Debate

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A dashcam clip showing a passenger car colliding with a truck as it tried to squeeze past the truck’s left side mid-turn has been posted to 5ch, sparking a debate over “who’s really at fault.” Opinions split over the truck’s off-tracking (the wider swing a long vehicle’s rear wheels take on a turn), the timing of its lane-straddling, and exactly when the turn signal came on, with users disagreeing on how the blame should be split.

So who’s in the wrong here?

Source: video.twimg.com / original clip here

What people said

3AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:21
The truck's driving line isn't exactly straight either, honestly
4AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:23
Re: #3
Hint: off-tracking (the rear wheels swinging wide on a turn)
10AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:27
Re: #3
Have you never driven a car?
13AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:29
There really are idiots who try to pass on the exact side the blinker's flashing on. Absolutely brain-dead.
44AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:47
Re: #13
You see this a lot with motorcyclists in videos like this.
20AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:32
I could see it with a motorcycle, but doing this in a regular car — trying to pass a big truck on the left while it's mid-left-turn — that's impressive (not in a good way).
24AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:33
Re: #20
Even on a bike, trying to pass a left-turning vehicle on its left makes no sense.
32AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:39
Re: #24
That's my take as a big-bike rider myself — and I say it knowing full well there are plenty of idiot bikers who pull that dangerous move. Bikes getting caught in a vehicle's blind spot mid-turn isn't even rare.
33AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:40
Re: #32
You should just hand in your license.
41AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:43
Re: #32
Wait, did you read "I could see it" as "I can comprehend it," instead of what I meant — that this kind of idiocy is common with bikes but rare with regular cars?
29AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:35
Re: #24
If you put your blinker on early enough, a bike basically never cuts in.
31AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:39
Re: #29
Most bikers think passing a left-turning vehicle on the left is out of the question, so they see the signal and back off from passing, right? Does that even count as a counterargument?
30AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:37
Isn't that too much swing-out for mere off-tracking, and didn't it go too far forward before actually turning?
71AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:08
Re: #30
Wouldn't a 4-ton truck need about this much clearance? Bus drivers turn with roughly this much off-tracking too, don't they?
73AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:11
Re: #71
A 4-tonner or a bus wouldn't need this much. Judging by the steering radius, this looks trailer-sized.
77AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:13
Re: #71
I drive a 4-tonner and I could make this turn without swinging out that far. This is a full-size large truck.
36AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:42
https://imgur.com/a/YCQz1VC
People who are bad at left turns seem like they can't do anything right.
64AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:03
Re: #36
How do you go from this situation to thinking "I'll just pass while it's turning left!"…
38AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:42
This truck had its blinker on from way, way back, so there's a real chance the driver behind it thought it was just a forgotten blinker.
42AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:44
Re: #38
Of course the blinker should already be on the moment you start straddling the lane to account for off-tracking before a left turn. It'd be weirder to straddle the lane for no reason at all.
46AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:50
The truck's driving is careful, but it straddled the lane for quite a while, so it probably won't get a clean 100%-fault ruling in its favor. When you straddle a lane to set up a left turn, you need to creep along at minimum speed right up near the intersection, or idiots just won't get it.
48AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:51
Re: #46
There wasn't even room to pass on the left until right before the intersection anyway.
50AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:54
Re: #48
It straddled about half the lane for a good stretch and was moving at decent speed, so yeah, there was a real chance of it being mistaken for a forgotten blinker. If it had clearly slowed down, stuck to the left lane, and crept into the turn, it probably would've gotten the rear-end ruled fully the other car's fault.
55AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:56
Re: #50
Do that and cars start passing on the right instead, and then it can't swing wide at the intersection. Straddling the lane is basically saying "don't come up on either side." The blinker was on properly too, so any normal driver behind should've picked up on that signal.
69AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:07
Re: #66
Then what Re: #50 is saying doesn't add up.
49AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:53
Straddling the lane from way back — factoring in things like traffic volume in the right lane — can actually be the better call for keeping overall traffic flow smooth, so it's hard to say either way.
54AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:56
Re: #49
If every single driver were smart, this would probably be the ideal way to drive. Doesn't hurt fuel economy, and it makes it easy for cars behind to merge right without braking. But the painful part is there's always a certain percentage of idiots on public roads, so you have to drive around them too.
52AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:56
Bicycles, motorcycles, cars — passing on the left is the root of all this.
59AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:59
Re: #52
You sound like you'd be a bad driver.
56AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:57
Is cutting it on yellow before a left turn even okay? Do trucks get a pass on that? I mean, it can't finish the turn otherwise.
57AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:58
Re: #56
If it's necessary to avoid danger or to complete a turn, it doesn't count as running the yellow in the first place, so that's fine.
61AnonymousAug 23, 2026 07:59
Re: #55
The problem is that theoretically sound driving doesn't line up with current law and legal precedent. The rule as written basically says "wait however long it takes until you can turn safely," so there's nothing to be done about it.
65AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:03
Re: #61
You can't make a left turn onto a narrow road in a truck unless you assume the drivers behind you are being smart about it. So what, sit there before the turn until there's nobody behind you? Depending on traffic, you'd never get to turn at all.
63AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:02
Re: #55
Signaling your intent doesn't mean you can do whatever you want after that. The rule is to pay full attention to your left rear and turn carefully regardless of whether the other driver has actually understood your intent.
66AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:04
Re: #65
That's exactly the "painful" part I was talking about. Read more carefully.
68AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:06
Re: #63
It was paying attention. In this video, the car rammed into the gap while the truck was mid-swing. Do you not even know what a left blinker means? It's what you turn on when you're about to turn left. There's no accounting for some idiot who tries to pass on the left of a car that's turning left — that car wasn't even visible in the mirror until the truck started turning.
76AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:13
Re: #68
You're the one making the irregular move of swinging right before a left turn, so it's easy to see how that could turn into "turning left across the path of a car going straight on your right."
79AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:15
Re: #76
A large truck doesn't get judged that way.
89AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:18
Re: #76
A large vehicle swinging right before a left turn is completely normal — is there really someone out there who thinks that's irregular?
72AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:09
Re: #69
Even driving that's 100% logically justified can still get you assigned partial fault if there's an accident. That's why driving a truck properly, if you actually take it seriously, is genuinely brutal.
75AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:12
Re: #72
Well, obviously lol. When you're driving you just have to pray there are no idiots around you. There's no predicting what an idiot will do.

Background and Key Points

Japan settles fender-benders like this one through a semi-formalized system, not case-by-case judge intuition. Insurers lean on a standard reference (often called the “kashitsu wariai” fault-ratio tables, published in a compendium of past rulings) that assigns baseline splits for common accident types — rear-ending a turning vehicle, passing on the inside, and so on — then adjusts up or down for specifics like signal timing and lane position. Large trucks and buses are also legally expected to swing wide to the right before a left turn because of off-tracking: their rear wheels track a tighter radius than the front, so without that swing the trailer or rear body would mount the curb or clip whatever is on the corner. Drivers behind are supposed to read that rightward drift plus a left blinker as “this vehicle is completing a left turn,” not as an invitation to undertake.

The thread’s real disagreement isn’t over who gets blamed in the abstract — everyone agrees the passing car erred — it’s over how much fault the truck should still absorb for straddling the lane at speed for an extended stretch before finally slowing into the turn, versus signaling and swinging exactly as procedure requires. That’s a matter of degree the posters can’t resolve from one clip.

What the thread never brings up is that Japanese insurers rarely rule 100%-0% in cases like this; even a technically correct maneuver typically draws a small percentage of fault (often cited informally as 10-ish for the turning vehicle) once the accident tables are applied, precisely because full avoidance was theoretically possible. Readers expecting a clean verdict from the footage alone are likely to be disappointed by how these are actually settled.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Truck: “I’m turning left!” Regular car: “I’m going straight!” ← the result lolololololololol.”

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