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  • Unknown young players keep winning Street Fighter 6 tournaments, and it’s sparking talk about the veterans too

    Street Fighter 6 tournaments have seen a string of wins by little-known young players, and it’s become a hot topic on 5ch. Some in the thread argued “it’s no fun without recognizable names,” while others got swept up in talk about the veterans’ generational shift — what Kokujin is up to these days, Umehara’s recent form, and the shock news of pro player Shou’s sudden retirement.

    1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:34
    It's boring if the guy with actual name value doesn't win, right?
    7AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:38
    Tokido and Kokujin — how did the gap between them get this big?
    35AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:57
    Re: #7
    I haven't followed the fighting game scene in over 10 years — what's Kokujin even doing now?
    I remember he started making and selling his own T-shirts.
    39AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:01
    Re: #35
    These days he can't even crack the top 500 in the in-game rating.
    12AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:42
    Young players winning is a good thing, isn't it?
    19AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:45
    Re: #12
    That's not the point — what's boring is when it's just nerds winning.
    Street Fighter 2 got popular with the general public precisely because it was simple. It's a shame when it shrinks back down to just otaku huddled together arguing over who won.
    44AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:03
    Re: #19
    The guys who win tournaments have always been otaku though.
    13AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:43
    There are tons of cases where some rookie wins using whatever character is busted at the time, everyone hypes it up as a "new era," and then after the balance patch they quietly slide down to upper-mid tier.
    The ones with real staying power are the guys who back up decent results with an actual character/persona — like being known as "the ○○ user."
    16AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:43
    Re: #13
    Being able to switch characters like Fuudo or Momochi is really the best.
    14AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:43
    Umehara, Mago, and Sako just can't keep up with Street Fighter 6's system anymore.
    22AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:47
    Re: #14
    Street Fighter 6's system is simple though?
    28AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:49
    Re: #14
    Mago's basically comic relief at this point, but Sako's current situation is genuinely sad.
    15AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:43
    It's good to see Japanese players showing up.
    Tekken's basically been overrun by Pakistan these days.
    21AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:46
    Re: #15
    That's just you — someone with nothing going for yourself — projecting onto Japanese developers and Japanese otaku.
    25AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:48
    Re: #15
    Demon Slayer and Hunter x Hunter are basically a Japanese monopoly.
    Well, more the "Heihoo" clique than "Japanese" broadly speaking (a nickname for a specific circle of Japanese players).
    23AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:48
    Nobody even remembers them anymore —
    guys like Shinjuku Jackie or Bunbunmaru.
    33AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:56
    Re: #23
    It's less that people forgot and more that they never knew.
    You'd have to be in your 50s to recognize those names.
    48AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:04
    Re: #23
    Bunbunmaru's showdowns against the Osaka crew were electric.
    30AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:50
    Wasn't there a guy who switched over from FPS and won Capcom Cup after just a year, pocketing a hundred million yen?
    Is it a good thing or a bad thing that some random young newcomer wins over people who've grinded fighting games for decades? 🥺
    31AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:51
    Re: #30
    Happy but sad.
    34AnonymousAug 19, 2026 18:56
    Fighting games are such a small scene, and it's basically a paradise for Japanese players, so even some old geezer can still win now and then.
    But if Capcom keeps paying out real prize money, more pro gamers will keep transferring in from other scenes —
    just like how Korean LoL rejects moved to Overwatch, and the Overwatch rejects moved to Apex.
    40AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:02
    Re: #34
    Even back when I last paid attention, like 10 years ago, China/Korea were already stronger at KOF, Southeast Asia at Tekken, and America at Street Fighter 5.
    Japanese players could basically only win in minor titles like Samurai Spirits, Vampire Savior, or Capcom vs. SNK — games where it felt like the organizers rigged things so Japan could come out on top.
    I bet even Guilty Gear has America on top by now.
    45AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:03
    It got popular thanks to Kuzuha, but honestly it's just not that fun.
    47AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:04
    Re: #45
    Ma-ma-ma-maaan~ (a mocking jab riffing on 5ch slang that paints the poster as thin-skinned)
    61AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:14
    Apparently some ridiculously strong, good-looking player who was supposed to carry the whole scene forward just suddenly retired.
    75AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:21
    Re: #61
    That's Shou.
    Great looks too.
    64AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:15
    Isn't this exactly what Umehara and the others wanted, though?
    Back in the Street Fighter 5 days he was lamenting that fighting games were a dying genre where no young blood ever comes in and guys in their 40s like himself were still the top ranks.
    68AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:16
    Re: #64
    Umehara's basically become the "Hiroyuki of the fighting game world" by now (a once-sharp figure turned polarizing elder pundit) — people still worship him?
    79AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:24
    My ID changed for some reason, but I'm the same guy from Re: #64 — just answering that.
    74AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:20
    I'm not a fanboy at all.
    I was watching one of Dokura's "worst characters" videos and a clip of Umehara fretting about the future of fighting games showed up in the recommendations, so I only watched it out of curiosity.
    77AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:22
    Re: #74
    Why's this guy suddenly trying to defend himself?
    83AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:26
    Re: #74
    Nobody was calling you a fanboy in the first place.
    91AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:31
    It's not that Umehara has a bad matchup or hasn't hit his ceiling yet —
    he's simply weaker than the top tier now.
    It's not even one specific weakness; it's more like every single one of his abilities is just a notch below the top players, which is kind of sad.
    93AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:33
    Re: #91
    He just can't keep up with Street Fighter 6's gameplay mechanics.
    94AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:33
    Re: #91
    He wasn't exactly mentally tough to begin with, and now he's saying unnecessary stuff on stream, making needless enemies, and basically cornering himself.
    102AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:38
    Honestly, whether it's Umehara or Tokido or whoever — if you're going to call yourself a pro, you should be running your own weekly tournaments to help grow the playerbase.
    I get that results don't always come in tournaments, but it's not like they're living off tournament winnings alone.
    They make their living streaming, yet all they stream is ranked matches.
    103AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:39
    Re: #102
    What's the logic behind "running your own tournament grows the playerbase"?
    108AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:45
    Re: #103
    Just showing yourself having fun running your own little tournament is promotion in itself — people see it and think "oh, that looks fun."
    Of course you can't just have the same regulars entering every time, but if you don't put out a "this is fun, anyone come join!" vibe, the playerbase isn't going to grow.
    110AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:46
    Re: #108
    You're probably better off just ignoring that guy.
    Well then… see ya…
    111AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:47
    Re: #108
    You expect the top pros in the industry to do that?
    I don't know what dead-game scene you're pulling that from, but I've never heard of a single major game where the top pros run their own grassroots tournaments like that.

    Background and Key Points

    Street Fighter 6 competes under Capcom’s Capcom Cup and Capcom Pro Tour circuit, where prize pools have grown large enough (the poster’s cited “hundred million yen,” roughly $650,000+, went to a single FPS transplant player after one year in the game) to pull talent in from other esports entirely rather than build up through the old arcade-and-locals pipeline that produced Japan’s famous names. That older generation — Umehara “Daigo” (Street Fighter’s most internationally recognized pro, active since the arcade era), Tokido, Mago, Sako, Kokujin, all now in their 40s — built reputations over roughly two decades when Japan’s insular arcade scene gave homegrown players an edge international competitors couldn’t easily match.

    The thread doesn’t split on whether young players winning is good — almost everyone agrees fresh blood is desirable in a scene the older pros themselves worried was dying out (post 64). It splits on whether winning without a “name” or a defined character identity behind it is worth anything: one camp says a title should reward recognizable rivalries and playstyles the way SF2 once did for a mainstream audience, the other says results are results and nobody durable wins tournaments any other way.

    What’s easy to miss reading this from outside Japan is that the “insular home-field advantage” the posters credit for veteran success (post 34, 40) is already understood by them to be eroding country by country — Tekken to Pakistan-based players, KOF long ago to China/Korea — so the anxiety here isn’t really about these two players, it’s about Japan’s competitive-gaming infrastructure losing the last title it still dominated.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Anything Live G) thread “Street Fighter 6 is finished now that nobody-name newcomers keep winning.”

  • Rock-Bottom Izakaya Sells Draft Beer for 150 Yen — 5ch: ‘They’re Using Tanrei Kegs’

    A 5ch thread blew up over how ultra-cheap izakayas advertising 150-yen draft beer actually turn a profit. One poster revealed the trick: “It’s ‘draft beer’ because they’re using kegs of Tanrei” (a low-malt happoshu, not real beer). Meanwhile, a photo of a 400-yen block of cold tofu (hiyayakko) at an Osaka izakaya sparked a debate over whether it was a rip-off or a fair price.

    1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:48
    How the hell do places like that even turn a profit?
    6AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:50
    Re: #2
    Guess that's really how it is, huh?
    But then there's food too — like 50-yen chicken skin skewers!
    79AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:28
    Re: #6
    Wonder how Shintendai packs 'em in like that? 190-yen beer and 50-yen skewers are tempting, but once I went, once felt like enough.
    82AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:30
    Re: #79
    How's the taste?
    Seems too cheap to be any good, so I've never actually been.
    83AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:31
    Re: #79
    The potato salad — the kind that's a pain to make yourself — is actually great there.
    If you're drinking a lot, all-you-can-drink ends up cheaper anyway,
    so it's probably mostly young or casual drinkers.
    The Toriyarou chicken-izakaya chain is similar, but some of their locations actually ban anyone over 40.
    11AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:52
    That's because they use kegs of Tanrei —
    that's why it's technically "draft beer" (really happoshu, a low-malt brew).
    17AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:54
    Re: #11
    Whoa
    so that's the trick behind it.
    20AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:55
    Beer's gotta cost like 30 yen at most to make.
    25AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:58
    Re: #20
    Just the liquor tax alone on a regular glass of draft is about 70 yen.
    22AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:56
    There was a place by Shimbashi Station with 190-yen beer that was packed every day — it went under though.
    81AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:30
    Re: #22
    Shintendai? There's one in Yurakucho too.
    23AnonymousAug 19, 2026 19:57
    Re: #13
    That's just your bias talking. There's no way cold tofu costs 400 yen, right? Well, that's exactly the point — plenty of à la carte items and dishes really are overpriced rip-offs.
    44AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:05
    Re: #33
    Lol, you're just trying to flex that you drink at fancier places.
    80AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:29
    Re: #44
    Ugh…
    where do you even normally go drink then?
    54AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:14
    Re: #53
    I mean it as a price that doesn't match the going rate.
    Don't nitpick my wording so much.
    57AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:16
    Re: #54
    Ordering something you yourself think is overpriced makes no sense.
    Do you even realize what you're doing? lol
    60AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:17
    Re: #57
    Sometimes you pay for something even while thinking it's not worth it, just going "eh, whatever."
    A little wasteful spending is the spice of life too.
    63AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:19
    Re: #60
    Fair enough, but then don't call it a rip-off.
    66AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:20
    Re: #63
    A rip-off price is a rip-off price.
    Everyone ordering it knows it's normal for an izakaya but outrageous anywhere else — no need to call it out.
    67AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:21
    Re: #63
    If something costs a few dozen yen to make and doesn't even need cooking, but they charge 500 yen for it, sure, some people are gonna call that a rip-off.
    If you don't see it that way, fine, that's your call.
    65AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:20
    Real pros pick places with all-you-can-drink in the 1000-yen range.
    Actually, you don't even need beer to be on the menu.
    69AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:21
    Re: #65
    So what, sake or highballs instead then?
    70AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:23
    I'm a beer guy, so I can't go with the cheap all-you-can-drink plans.
    Forcing myself to drink chuhai instead kind of defeats the purpose anyway.
    74AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:25
    Re: #70
    Some places say "beer" on the menu but actually serve Kinmugi (a cheap happoshu brand) instead.
    In that sense, an all-you-can-drink deal that actually gives you bottled beer is a godsend.
    71AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:23
    Re: #69
    Highball and more highball.
    Green tea highball or chuhai works too.
    If you just want to get drunk, the cheap sake in the all-you-can-drink deal does the job.
    75AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:25
    Re: #71
    Honestly, I drink highballs too these days. At the end of the day, it doesn't really need to be beer.
    72AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:25
    Honestly, there are way more cheap places to drink in central Tokyo.
    77AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:26
    Re: #72
    Right? Chains like Hidakaya feel cheaper to me.
    78AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:28
    Re: #72
    Exactly this.
    Teketeke and Toriichizu are unbeatable.
    85AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:32
    Some chains have corporate contracts that get them beer wholesale at a discount.
    89AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:36
    Re: #85
    Places like that actually tend to taste pretty good too — I guess the consistency is exactly why they can land those contracts.

    Oh wait, we're talking chains here. Well, with chains, because of those contracts, other stuff on the menu tends to end up surprisingly pricier, doesn't it?
    98AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:48
    Still, I think drinking out is better — at the very least, if you pass out, someone will be there to deal with it.
    108AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:58
    Re: #98
    Guess I don't even feel the urge to drink that much anymore…
    111AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:59
    Re: #108
    Yeah, right…
    that's a young person's game.
    112AnonymousAug 19, 2026 21:00
    Re: #108
    Nah, you should still go out — don't you want snacks that taste better than what you'd make yourself?
    100AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:49
    The 120-minute all-you-can-drink was only about 2500 yen, but I ended up spending 7000 yen total.
    I envy people who can just drink without eating.
    103AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:51
    Re: #100
    Wait, seriously? The drink plan doesn't come with food?

    Background and Key Points

    For readers unfamiliar with Japanese drinking culture, the key piece of background is Japan’s tiered liquor tax. Beer proper carries the highest tax; “happoshu” (low-malt brews like Kirin’s Tanrei) and “third-category” beers are taxed lower and cost izakayas far less to buy. Critically, the Japanese term for draft beer, “nama biru,” technically just means beer poured from a keg tap rather than a bottle — it describes the serving method, not the beverage category. That loophole is what lets ultra-cheap izakayas legally advertise “150-yen nama” while actually pouring happoshu, as the thread’s most-liked post pointed out. Tokyo/Osaka izakayas commonly use this drink as a loss-leader, recouping margin on food, all-you-can-drink (nomihoudai) plans, or bulk wholesale beer contracts with chains.

    Where the thread actually split was over the 400-yen hiyayakko (cold tofu) — one camp called it an outright rip-off for a dish requiring no cooking, while others argued that knowingly paying above-market price for izakaya convenience and atmosphere isn’t really being “ripped off,” since everyone understands the markup going in.

    What the thread doesn’t spell out, and outsiders likely won’t grasp, is that “happoshu” isn’t some obscure knockoff — it’s a mainstream, heavily marketed category with its own brand loyalty in Japan, not simply “fake beer.” Also worth noting: one poster mentioned the Toriyarou chain banning customers over 40 at some locations, a real and distinctly Japanese practice tied to keeping izakayas feeling youthful, but the thread never explains the reasoning, leaving foreign readers to assume it’s a joke rather than an actual house policy.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Live News G board) thread “You know how there’s sometimes an izakaya with like ‘150 yen for a draft beer’!?“

  • Disagreement Over Kenshi Yonezu Being Called Japan’s Top Musician — 5ch: ‘Then Who Else Would It Be?’

    On 5ch’s Livegalileo (anything-goes live-commentary) board, a thread titled ‘It bugs me that Field Marshal Yonezu acts like he’s the top of Japanese music’ (a sarcastic nickname playing on his name, 玄師/Genshi vs 元帥/Gensui, “Marshal”) sparked a wide-ranging debate after a poster said they couldn’t accept Kenshi Yonezu being ranked as Japan’s top musician. Rivals like Mrs. GREEN APPLE, Fujii Kaze, and Hoshino Gen were floated as alternatives, but none proved decisive, and the thread ultimately settled on the conclusion that Yonezu’s position was unshakable given his track record of coverage across Asia.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:57
    His songs aren't even that good tbh
    4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:59
    Classic case of having nothing to say when asked 'well who else would be top then?' Can only speak from dislike.
    6AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:00
    Re: #4
    So if I said EXILE, you'd laugh at me, right?
    8AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:01
    Re: #6
    Then who do you think was on top in the 1990s?
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:02
    Re: #8
    No idea… Michael Jackson maybe?
    9AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:01
    Who would you actually accept as the top act?
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:02
    Re: #9
    Probably Southern All Stars, I guess? Not sure.
    12AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:02
    Re: #9
    Anyone but Yonezu or Creepy Nuts
    14AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:03
    Of course Kenshi Yonezu is the top — that's the consensus of the entire Japanese nation
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:04
    Re: #14
    You seem like the type who's into anime
    18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:05
    It's an era where only anime theme songs sell, so what can you do
    19AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:05
    Re: #18
    Sad era we live in. Poison. (a sarcastic 5ch meme, from the Fist of the North Star theme song 'Poison')
    20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:10
    Re: #12
    Would you accept it if Mrs. GREEN APPLE were the top?
    23AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:14
    Re: #20
    Not really a fan of Mrs. GREEN APPLE either, honestly…
    24AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:15
    Hige (Official HIGE DANdism) Korea concert
    https://youtu.be/HCSKnLPFTzg?si=0iQemXgXTtPD7gwt

    Popularity at Korean shows
    Mrs. GREEN APPLE ranks dead last among recent J-pop acts

    Making Mrs. GREEN APPLE Japan's representative would just cause more confusion
    They're way too unpopular overseas
    25AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:16
    Re: #23
    Then who would you pick among recent artists?
    Fujii Kaze?
    27AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:18
    Re: #25
    Not really into Fujii Kaze or Hoshino Gen either, honestly…
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:20
    Re: #27
    Isn't it just that you're an old man now and can't get into recent music at all?
    32AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:24
    Re: #30
    Well, I did think 'what's even good about this' with songs like IRIS OUT or KICK BACK
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:22
    Taiwan, China, Korea — they all report Yonezu as the top act, so pushing back on that doesn't really get you anywhere…
    33AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:24
    Re: #31
    And here you usually can't stand China and Korea
    34AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:25
    Re: #32
    Those are just songs where he tried a new style to match the anime — Yonezu's roots are really in Vocaloid and ballads
    37AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:26
    Re: #34
    I actually like Vocaloid stuff, just not Yonezu's
    39AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:27
    Classic case of just being a contrarian for attention
    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:27
    Re: #39
    Am I obligated to like something just because it's popular?
    42AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:28
    Re: #40
    You don't have to like it, but complaining won't change anything — he's reported as the top act all across Asia
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:29
    Re: #42
    So it's an era where only forced anime tie-in songs sell, huh. Poison.
    43AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:29
    I don't get people who can't stand it when something they personally dislike is popular
    Normally you'd just think 'not my taste, but I guess it's popular'
    46AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:29
    Re: #43
    People talk about being sick of 'Ohtani overload' too (a meme about excessive Shohei Ohtani coverage) — maybe it's just about needing a trigger?
    57AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:32
    Re: #24
    Even looking at stats like this on overseas popularity, you still won't accept it?
    Would you accept it if Mrs. GREEN APPLE were the top instead?
    63AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:33
    Re: #57
    I'm not gonna sit and watch some YouTube video, I'm not that bored
    65AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:34
    Re: #63
    Why are you still complaining? lol

    Everyone has celebrities they don't like
    But you're always the only one making a fuss
    66AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:34
    Re: #63
    Kind of funny how the guy claiming he's 'not bored' and it's 'a waste of time' has posted this many times in the thread — is that some kind of joke?
    59AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:32
    Re: #52
    It's just tit-for-tat at this point
    64AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:33
    Re: #59
    Did somebody start something with you?
    67AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:34
    Re: #64
    Well, I don't think it's hatred exactly. It's more like, isn't the taste just kind of off?
    69AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:35
    Re: #67
    Why are you complaining about this every single day?

    Just name someone else specifically
    If Mrs. GREEN APPLE sells well, then just insist they're the top
    Why act defeated instead of just insisting on it?
    70AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:36
    Re: #67
    Taste is different for everyone
    People who like him will say it's not off at all
    People who dislike him will say he's no good
    What are you even trying to accomplish by asking that?
    74AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:38
    Re: #70
    It's just a question of whether people genuinely accept that weird singing style of his
    78AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:40
    Re: #74
    But even if fans say they accept it, you'll just doubt them and go 'really though?', won't you?
    80AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:41
    Re: #78
    Like take IRIS OUT for example — the singing is really weird, right? But it was a hit. Makes me feel like everyone except me is an alien or something
    84AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:43
    Re: #80
    I feel that way about other celebrities too
    My taste is so out of sync with everyone else that I stopped talking about Japanese entertainment altogether
    I don't think Mrs. GREEN APPLE or BACK NUMBER are any good either, and nobody gets it, so I only talk about overseas stuff now

    Background and Key Points

    Kenshi Yonezu isn’t a fringe figure by any measure of the mainstream Japanese charts: he broke through as the Vocaloid producer “Hachi” before going mainstream around 2012, and since then has supplied theme songs to some of the biggest anime and drama franchises of the past decade — “Lemon,” “KING,” and, mentioned directly in the thread, “KICK BACK” (Chainsaw Man) and “IRIS OUT” (Kaiju No. 8). That anime-tie-in pipeline is central to why he dominates Oricon and Billboard Japan streaming charts: original theme songs for hit anime get guaranteed exposure to a huge, captive audience in a way most standalone singles don’t, which is also why posters gripe about it being “an era where only anime songs sell.”

    What the thread actually splits on isn’t whether Yonezu sells — nobody disputes that — but whether chart dominance should settle the informal, purely subjective question of who is “Japan’s top musician.” Several posters concede they can’t name a more commercially convincing rival (Mrs. GREEN APPLE, Fujii Kaze, and Hoshino Gen all get floated and shot down) yet still resist calling him the best, framing it as a taste objection to his vocal style rather than a chart argument.

    Readers should be aware there’s no such thing as an official “top musician of Japan” title; it’s shorthand for chart placement, streaming numbers, and media coverage, not any certifying body. The claim that “Taiwan, China, and Korea all report him as top” is also asserted by posters without a source beyond a single YouTube concert clip, so it should be read as thread lore, not verified fact.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Livegalileo board) thread ‘It bugs me that Field Marshal Yonezu acts like he’s the top of Japanese music’.

  • Reo Hatate May Stay at Celtic — Turns Down Offers from Greece, Austria, and MLS

    Celtic midfielder Reo Hatate looked all but certain to leave the club this summer, but the possibility of him staying has suddenly emerged. British media report that he has turned down offers from Greece, Austria, and MLS, and that he himself hasn’t given up hope of a move to one of Europe’s top-5 leagues.

    On 5ch, this “bold gamble” drew a mix of hopeful and harshly critical reactions.

    MF Reo Hatate, who previously played for Kawasaki Frontale, looked set to leave Celtic this summer, but the possibility of him staying has now emerged. He’s already drawn interest from England’s second-tier West Ham United and Greek top-flight side Panathinaikos, with rumors of a move to Kashima Antlers as well — but unlike forward Kyogo Furuhashi (LA Galaxy), he has turned down a move to MLS (America’s Major League Soccer). A move to the Middle East is also said to be possible.

    British outlet the Herald reported on the 17th that “Reo Hatate has turned down offers from Greece, Austria, and MLS.” The player, who is out of manager Martin O’Neill’s plans, has reportedly received offers worth several million pounds, and has also drawn interest from Middle Eastern clubs.

    The same outlet also reported that “Hatate is eager to challenge himself in one of Europe’s top-5 leagues.” The article also touches on the background behind his rejection of offers from multiple clubs, writing that “Hatate, who has been left out of the matchday squad for weeks since the transfer window opened without being given playing time, is waiting on offers from other clubs and has shown he’s willing to bet on getting his chance at Celtic.”

    Source: news.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:41
    His first match after the transfer was the peak.
    The local praise and expectations for his future were off the charts.
    90AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:32
    Re: #4
    Just going by that one match, he looked like a star (lol)
    5AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:41
    Isn't he overestimating his own ability?
    7AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:42
    It's rough that the lack of offers itself shows he's got no shot at a top-5 league.
    It's basically like being told 'this is as far as you go as a player.'
    9AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:45
    His play is just careless.
    First it's 50/50 whether a teammate is even there.
    Then on top of that it's 50/50 whether the pass actually gets to them.
    It's less that his field of vision is narrow and more that the whole concept of 'vision' barely exists for him.
    10AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:45
    Is this guy the type to sulk pretty easily?
    14AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:48
    Re: #10
    Don't know about his Kawasaki days, but at Celtic his play has been unstable.
    68AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:42
    Re: #10
    During one international break he wasn't used in either of the 2 matches and blew a fuse.
    There's footage of (national team manager) Moriyasu looking flustered because of it.
    I think that's when he stopped getting called up to the national team.
    12AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:47
    Hatate's been a sub since last season, so I doubt any notable offers will come in.
    If anything, it'll probably be a free transfer once his contract runs out.
    13AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:48
    Austria's level is probably higher, so he should just take the step up.
    Better than being frozen out at Celtic.
    15AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:48
    Feels like Hatate suddenly dropped in the pecking order — did something happen?
    19AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:55
    Re: #15
    The word is his performances have been inconsistent.
    16AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:53
    He's been ripped apart by the local media and fans and clearly doesn't fit in with the team, yet he still wants to stay — impressive.
    20AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:56
    Re: #1
    Son of a PL Gakuen (a famous Osaka high school baseball powerhouse) player
    If he'd played baseball he'd be a major leaguer
    21AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:56
    He should've just gone to West Ham and bet on getting promoted.
    22AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:57
    'MF Reo Hatate, who previously played for Kawasaki Frontale…' — this kind of intro isn't even necessary.
    Even a middle schooler's essay would be written better than that.
    23AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:57
    He's out of the squad plans at Celtic and still has 2 years left on his contract — a move to a top-5 league just isn't happening.
    A comeback to the national team at this point is probably impossible too, so he might as well go make one last payday in the Middle East.
    49AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:27
    Re: #23
    I think so too.
    Once he chose Celtic, he should just accept it's a money-first career from here on.
    24AnonymousAug 19, 2026 06:59
    I'd think he'd jump at West Ham, but that part's probably just an unconfirmed rumor.
    34AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:08
    Re: #24
    I feel like Celtic bought a player from them for big money just last week, so I think that's just a rumor.
    25AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:00
    Never thought Maeda would end up being the most successful of those four.
    Still better than Ideguchi, whose name you don't even see anymore though.
    26AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:04
    Turning down a move to a Championship club to stay in Scotland is just dumb, honestly (lol)
    28AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:05
    Oh, so it's his surname?
    Not 'Reo, the flag-bearer' (旗手/hatate is also the Japanese word for 'standard-bearer')
    33AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:08
    Seems like he'd have low social skills.
    Never smiles either.
    Doesn't seem like the type teammates would really warm to.
    37AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:11
    Re: #33
    I've only ever seen photos of him scowling and standing alone.
    Though that might just be the media cutting things to look bad on purpose.
    38AnonymousAug 19, 2026 07:11
    Celtic itself isn't that bad a club.
    Furuhashi went on to Rennes and Birmingham after all.
    It's just that Hatate doesn't have enough ability and got pushed out.
    99AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:55
    Re: #38
    If he plays well his value shoots up fast, which is bad if he's aiming for a top-5 league.
    It'd be fine if he did what Yokota did — play in the German 2nd division (Bundesliga 2) first.
    60AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:03
    West Ham's fine, isn't it?
    He's not getting used at Celtic anymore anyway.
    61AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:08
    Re: #60
    You're seriously underestimating West Ham, man.
    62AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:11
    He shouldn't have signed a contract extension.
    63AnonymousAug 19, 2026 08:14
    Re: #62
    Well, he got blinded by the money, I guess.
    Though even on a free transfer to the J.League he'd probably still get around 300 million yen (~$2M).
    75AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:03
    If he's just going to sit on the bench in Scotland, the J.League would be 100 times better.
    77AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:06
    Re: #75
    Better to sit on the bench and get paid a fortune, no?
    80AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:19
    Going to Celtic kind of leaves the rest of your career in limbo.
    You look impressive while you're doing well at Celtic, but once you move elsewhere, reality hits.
    83AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:22
    Re: #80
    So Celtic's like the Dragon Palace, huh (a mythical undersea palace from folklore where you lose track of time and reality).
    100AnonymousAug 19, 2026 09:55
    Wait, he turned down the Hammers (West Ham's nickname)? Isn't his self-assessment way too high?
    104AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:01
    Re: #100
    Look again.
    It's Greece, Austria, and MLS.
    103AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:00
    Going from Celtic straight to a top-5 league is really overreaching.
    Even Furuhashi only ended up at a lower-table French club.
    106AnonymousAug 19, 2026 10:09
    Re: #103
    Rennes is one of the wealthier clubs in Ligue 1, so Furuhashi's case is a bit different.
    If Hatate wants to play in a top-5 league, his only real shot is an 'elevator club' (one that bounces between divisions) like Bundesliga's St. Pauli (Fujita, Ando, Hara) or Ligue 1's Le Havre (Seko, Mizuta, Nakamura-Sou).
    All six of those players moved on free transfers or for cheap fees, so coming from Celtic makes it tough.

    Background and Key Points

    Celtic play in the Scottish Premiership, a league outside Europe’s “top five” (England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France) despite being a continental heavyweight domestically — regular treble winners and Champions League/Europa League participants who habitually sell their best players onward. That pipeline is why a move there is normally seen as a stepping stone: Kyogo Furuhashi used it to reach Ligue 1’s Rennes before Birmingham, and Hatate himself arrived from Kawasaki Frontale in January 2022 to instant acclaim, scoring twice on his Old Firm derby debut against Rangers. Posts referencing his father’s baseball background and the Moriyasu national-team snub situate him as a player whose early promise cooled once Celtic stopped picking him and he faded from Japan squad selection.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t whether Hatate is talented — it’s whether refusing Greece, Austria, and MLS to gamble on Celtic (or a mythical top-5 move) is admirable self-belief or delusion, since with two contracted years remaining and no first-team minutes, several posters argue no top-5 club is realistically coming for him at all.

    What outside readers may miss is the financial logic underneath the football logic: multiple posters note that sitting unused on Celtic’s bench, or eventually cashing out in the J.League or Middle East, still pays handsomely, meaning “staying” may be a wage decision as much as an ambition one. The thread also never engages with why West Ham specifically was passed over, despite being floated as his most plausible route back into a bigger league.

    *This article is an excerpt and summary based on the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Sokuho+) thread “[Soccer] Reo Hatate may stay at Celtic! Turns down three offers, ‘eager to challenge one of Europe’s top-5 leagues’! Middle East move also emerging“.

  • Med Student: “Phew… Phew… I got my medical license… Now let’s go fix everyone’s anuses!” → Becomes a proctologist

    A thread went up on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyou G” (Live Anything) board where a med student pumped himself up, declaring, “I studied like crazy and finally got my medical license… now, time to fix everyone’s anuses!”

    The thread kicked off with jokes about what proctologists are even for and cracks like “they stare at other people’s anuses 24/7, 365 days a year,” before spiraling into a broader debate about the popularity and pecking order of different medical specialties — OB-GYN, pediatrics, psychiatry, cardiac surgery, and more.

    1AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:21
    Nah, that's not how it's gonna go.
    2AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:21
    "Now, let's go ogle actresses' butts for free!" is more like it.
    3AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:21
    Nah, proctologists are a blessing.
    4AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:22
    Proctologists have nasty personalities though.
    6AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:23
    Re: #4
    Well yeah, when all you look at is other people's anuses 24/7, 365 days a year, your personality's bound to get twisted.
    50AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:41
    Re: #6
    Come on, they must have SOME time when they're not looking at anuses.
    7AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:23
    A proctologist saved me as a kid, and that's what made me want to become one myself.
    9AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:24
    Proctology is important, obviously.
    We're not kids here.
    10AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:25
    Stuff like this slowly chips away at the field, and if proctology specialists end up drastically dwindling down the road, it's us who'll be in trouble.
    If cosmetic surgeons vanished, nobody would care, but if doctors who actually treat disease disappear, we're the ones who'd suffer — I don't get what people are trying to accomplish.
    11AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:25
    If your anus goes bad, life gets miserable real fast — of course it's important.
    14AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:26
    How far does a proctologist's territory actually extend?
    Internally, up to the sigmoid colon?
    Externally, all the way to the crack??
    15AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:27
    But doctors check every box of the "4K" jobs — stinky, dirty, brutal, and loaded (a riff on Japan's "3K" label for tough/dirty/dangerous jobs, with "rich" tacked on here).
    16AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:27
    I'm a med student myself, and I don't know a single guy around me who wants to go into OB-GYN.
    Even our OB-GYN professor said, "I probably shouldn't say this, but honestly, we really wish more male students would go into obstetrics and gynecology."
    17AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:28
    Nobody said proctologists "don't need to exist," so saying "it's important" isn't actually a rebuttal to anything.
    18AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:28
    Reasons to go into it: the bar's high since you need experience across multiple fields like gastroenterology, so competition is low.
    Surprisingly, a lot of women have hemorrhoids too, so patients aren't scarce.
    And there's basically no risk of a fatal medical accident.
    27AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:31
    Where does it fall in the doctor hierarchy, I wonder? I'd guess surgeons and ER doctors sit at the top.
    101AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:24
    Re: #27
    If a proctologist only treated hemorrhoids, sure, but in reality they're GI surgeons who also handle tough procedures like the Hartmann procedure, so other departments actually respect them.
    35AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:35
    Bottom tier is pediatrics.
    Seriously, nobody wanted it.
    54AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:43
    Which department is basically "only the highly capable need apply"?
    60AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:44
    Re: #54
    Cardiac surgery.
    You need to be smart AND have the stamina to pull three straight all-nighters.
    56AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:43
    Just being a doctor already commands respect, but
    I guess even among doctors there's some kind of caste system, huh 😔
    59AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:44
    Re: #56
    It'd be great if the whole world thought like you (stares off into the distance)
    70AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:49
    It's a more necessary specialty than psychiatry, honestly.
    102AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:27
    Re: #70
    Psychiatry is necessary too.
    They're working hard to keep 200,000 long-term inpatients from being released back into general society.
    87AnonymousAug 20, 2026 12:59
    Turns out most young OB-GYNs these days are women.
    At this rate, obstetrics/gynecology is headed for collapse.
    92AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:04
    Re: #87
    With the birth rate falling, the number of doctors needed is dropping too, so it probably balances out.
    94AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:10
    Re: #87
    Female doctors tend not to want night shifts, so you should just assume nighttime deliveries won't be a thing anymore.
    105AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:30
    If you need hemorrhoid surgery, go to the surgery department at a big hospital.
    I went to a private proctology clinic first and it was awful — they just dragged the treatment out.
    110AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:56
    Re: #105
    Dermatology was awful too.
    I wanted a cyst removed from a sensitive area ASAP, but they just kept stalling with medication. A full year later I finally got a referral to a big hospital and got it fixed with surgery.
    106AnonymousAug 20, 2026 13:31
    Dentists have it pretty rough too, don't they.
    Other people's mouths are nasty.

    Background and Key Points

    Med student proctology thread → English closer.

    **Background readers need:** Japan’s medical hierarchy runs partly on prestige and lifestyle. Proctology (肛門科, kōmonka) is a real subspecialty of gastrointestinal surgery, not just hemorrhoid-popping — treating anal fistulas, hemorrhoids, and procedures like the Hartmann operation. It survives in Japan through a network of dedicated specialty clinics (専門クリニック) alongside hospital GI-surgery departments, a setup less common in the US or UK, where colorectal issues mostly funnel through general/colorectal surgery. On the other end of the debate, OB-GYN (産婦人科) has a well-documented staffing crisis: grueling night shifts for deliveries, high malpractice liability, and a shrinking pool of male applicants — a professor’s on-record plea in the thread (“we really wish more male students would go into obstetrics”) reflects a real recruitment problem discussed in Japanese medical education circles for years.

    **Where the thread split:** Not on whether proctology matters — nobody argued that — but on rank. Posters diverged over whether “necessary/undesirable” specialties like proctology and psychiatry deserve more respect than their reputation suggests, versus a competing view that pediatrics and OB-GYN are the true bottom-tier postings because of pay, hours, and lawsuit risk, while cardiac surgery sits at the top purely on difficulty and stamina.

    **What outsiders likely miss:** The debate says nothing about reimbursement rates — in Japan’s national health insurance (fee schedule) system, procedural specialties like surgery and cardiac surgery are compensated far better per hour than cognitive/talk-heavy fields like psychiatry or general pediatrics, which is a bigger driver of the pecking order than posters here admit.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyou G) thread “Med Student: “Phew… Phew… I studied so hard and finally got my medical license…! Now! Let’s go fix everyone’s anuses!” → Becomes a proctologist.”

  • Best Places to Live in Kanagawa Outside Yokohama? 5ch Debates Ebina, Kawasaki, and Hiratsuka

    A thread titled “I want to live in Kanagawa Prefecture outside Yokohama City” popped up on 5ch’s “Livegalileo” (live-discussion) board, sparking talk about what it’s actually like to live in places like Ebina, Kawasaki, Hiratsuka, Chigasaki, and Hayama.

    Ebina drew praise for its transit convenience, but others warned about liquefaction risk and the Sagami River’s flood potential, while more practical voices pointed out that the Shonan coastal area is rough to live in without a car — leaving the thread split.

    1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:20
    Ebina, maybe?
    2AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:21
    Say what you want, but Kawasaki's convenient — way better than ending up somewhere like Atsugi.
    7AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:24
    Re: #2
    Kawasaki's air is way too polluted.
    3AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:22
    Ebina's population is exploding, but if a big earthquake hits, that ground looks primed to liquefy.
    10AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:25
    Re: #3
    By that logic you couldn't live anywhere around there.
    46AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:36
    Re: #3
    Just so you know — if the Sagami River overflows, it's Ebina that's in trouble, not the Atsugi side.
    5AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:23
    Isn't Machida pretty convenient?
    8AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:24
    Re: #5
    Not interested in Tokyo proper (Machida is technically part of Tokyo, not Kanagawa).
    9AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:25
    I live in Ebina and it's honestly easy to live in — it's a bit out in the countryside, but there's decent shopping and it's easy to get into the city too.
    13AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:26
    Re: #9
    Walked around Vinawalk today and now I'm sure of it — this place is livable. (Vinawalk is the big shopping complex by Ebina Station)
    12AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:25
    Once you want a no-transfer train ride into Tokyo's 23 wards, rent stays high. Stop caring about access to central Tokyo and it drops fast.
    20AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:27
    Re: #12
    Honestly the area along the Sagami Line isn't bad either.
    14AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:26
    Central Kanagawa ("Kenou") has cheap land, bad public safety, and a low rate of kids taking private middle-school entrance exams — I'd skip it. (Writing this from Hayama, by the way.)
    54AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:38
    Re: #14
    Compared to Fukuoka or Kansai, Kanagawa's crime rate is nothing.
    23AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:29
    Even within Yokosuka, somewhere like Akiya near Hayama seems nice. If you're living in Kanagawa, go coastal.
    29AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:30
    Re: #23
    A spot that gets wiped out by the Nankai Trough megaquake… not so sure about that.
    28AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:30
    Ebina's hot. If you can handle brutal heat waves, it's probably fine?
    31AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:30
    Re: #28
    Walked around today and it wasn't even that hot.
    30AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:30
    Re: #13
    You've got JR, Sotetsu, and Odakyu lines, and Ebina's even the starting station for the Sotetsu Line — it's the best.
    32AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:31
    Re: #30
    JR needs to move its station already.
    35AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:32
    Re: #29
    I'm in Hayama, and it's marked pink on the hazard map, so if a tsunami hits, I'm done for. But if you're going to live in central Kanagawa anyway, why not just live in Tokyo proper? If you're deliberately moving to Kanagawa, the coast makes more sense. Personally I think somewhere like Ninomiya is also a nice rural pick.
    38AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:32
    Re: #35
    If it's coastal, Hiratsuka or Chigasaki would've been good calls.
    40AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:34
    Re: #38
    Hiratsuka's fine if you're on the south side. The Beniya-cho area is a bit sketchy, so I wouldn't want to live near the north exit. (Beniya-cho is a nightlife district by Hiratsuka Station)
    45AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:36
    Re: #40
    Haven't been to the side near the velodrome, but the area near city hall is nice.
    48AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:36
    The Tama side of Kawasaki is really nice, I think.
    51AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:37
    Re: #48
    Somewhere like Asao Ward has way too high rent.
    49AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:37
    Saw the old Sagami Kokubunji temple ruins today — up on that high ground, it's probably pretty disaster-resistant.
    58AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:39
    Re: #49
    Central Kanagawa sits on a river terrace, so past a certain slope it's all elevated plateau. (a stepped landform carved by the river over time)
    56AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:39
    The stretch from Chigasaki to Kamakura is rough to live in without a car, and even with one, the traffic is hell. Hiratsuka's just barely tolerable, but even if you head to the beach there, people still laugh and go 'lol, Hiratsuka.'
    60AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:42
    Re: #56
    Can't really blame it — the Miura Peninsula got urbanized in an era that never planned for getting around by car.
    70AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:47
    What about along Ibaraki's Joban Line or the Tsukuba Express?
    74AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:48
    Re: #70
    That's basically Chiba at that point.
    78AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:49
    Re: #60
    Still, the location can't be beat — every morning I walk my dog on the beach with a massive Mt. Fuji staring right back at me.
    80AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:51
    Re: #78
    Then why are there so many vacant houses?
    98AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:55
    Fujisawa and Kamakura are nice, but it's a long haul to central Tokyo.
    102AnonymousAug 19, 2026 20:56
    Re: #98
    Ebina's actually close to Shinjuku.

    Background and Key Points

    Kanagawa Prefecture is Japan’s second most populous prefecture, with roughly 9.2 million residents, but its identity outside Yokohama and Kawasaki is genuinely fragmented. “Kenou” (central Kanagawa), where Ebina and Atsugi sit, is inland river-terrace terrain shaped by the Sagami River; “Shonan,” running from Chigasaki through Hiratsuka to Kamakura and Hayama, is the prefecture’s famous Pacific coastline. Kawasaki’s coastal wards still carry the legacy of the Keihin industrial belt, a corridor of refineries and factories built through the 20th century that gave the city its old reputation for poor air quality, even though pollution controls have since brought it in line with national standards.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t Yokohama versus everywhere else — it was inland convenience versus coastal risk. Ebina backers valued its three-railway hub (JR, Odakyu, Sotetsu) and shopping, while critics raised the Sagami River’s flood potential and liquefaction on its alluvial ground. Shonan backers cited beach living and views of Mt. Fuji, but were met with warnings about Nankai Trough tsunami exposure and near-total car dependency, since the coast urbanized before postwar road planning caught up.

    What outside readers likely miss is Machida: despite sitting in the middle of this Kanagawa conversation geographically and functioning as its shared commercial hub, it is legally part of Tokyo Metropolis, not Kanagawa — an administrative quirk that trips up anyone reading the map rather than the ward boundaries. The thread also never cites actual crime statistics; the “bad public safety” claim for central Kanagawa is impressionistic, and National Police Agency data doesn’t support ranking it above Fukuoka or Osaka.

    *This article is composed from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Livegalileo board) thread “I want to live in Kanagawa Prefecture outside Yokohama City”.

  • Chef’s Video of Dumping a Mountain of Salt on Fish Sparks Debate: ‘This Much Is Normal, Right?’

    A video of a female chef pouring a huge amount of salt over a fish went viral on social media and became a hot topic on 5channel as well. Some pointed out how it differs from proper shiogama-yaki (salt-crust baking), others defended it as pricing that bakes in the cost of the performance along with the ingredients, while still others questioned the hygiene of handling a phone with bare hands — and the discussion even expanded into comparisons with sumo wrestlers scattering salt in the ring.

    1AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:51
    tps://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2089031429997187072/vid/avc1/1126×1640/sefpBCtvxHnURMhq.mp4?tag=29
    2AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:52
    This is just the restaurant's concept, so it's got nothing to do with gender
    6AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:54
    That's one of those robatayaki (hearth-grill) joints that's been dumping tons of salt lately, right?
    8AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:55
    The 'let the ingredients speak for themselves' purists are gonna lose it
    13AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:56
    Re: #8
    One of those 'ingredient purist' tribe members, huh?
    18AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:58
    Cleaning the floor and drain after that seems like a pain
    22AnonymousAug 18, 2026 09:59
    As long as it's not just a crappy stunt for clout, it's fine
    104AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:19
    Re: #22
    Is there any other reason to do something like this?
    26AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:00
    There's that dish where they pack the fish in a salt crust, right?
    It's probably that
    31AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:03
    The fact the chef isn't even wearing a hat tells you everything about this place's standards
    33AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:05
    They're charging customers for all that wasted salt too, how ridiculous
    35AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:06
    Re: #33
    That doesn't even cost 5 yen
    Have you never bought salt at a supermarket, you middle-aged shut-in still living with your parents (kodo-oji)?
    38AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:07
    Do customers actually look at this and go 'whoa, amazing!'?
    39AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:08
    40AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:08
    Menus at places like this probably have the performance baked right into the price
    42AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:09
    Wait, is that first fish a kinki (thornyhead rockfish)?
    It's pretty big, how much would that even run…
    44AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:11
    Re: #35
    I mean, salt's actually gotten pretty pricey too
    Hakata no Shio (a popular salt brand) runs almost 400 yen
    53AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:16
    Re: #44
    That's for 1kg, right? And that's retail, not wholesale
    Even if it really is 400 yen per kg, 50g of that is only 20 yen
    63AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:25
    Re: #53
    Even if the raw cost is 20 yen, they're obviously marking it up 20x on the price
    105AnonymousAug 18, 2026 11:20
    Re: #53
    People obsessed with 'raw ingredient cost' are seriously dense
    45AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:13
    This is the hottest battle on X right now
    You guys better think hard about which side you're on

    80AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:36
    Re: #45
    Lmao the defenders bringing up shiogama-yaki (salt-crust baking)
    Where's the shiogama-yaki element in this cooking method?
    The only thing they have in common is using salt — if it's just excessive salt for show, that's a waste
    83AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:39
    Re: #45
    The amount of salt 'needed' for shiogama-yaki (salt-crust bake)
    The amount of salt 'needed' for shioyaki (salt-grilled fish)
    Those are different dishes, so the comparison is off the mark
    87AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:43
    Re: #45
    Looked it up and the purpose and method are totally different lol
    47AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:14
    The fact they don't even flinch at wasting this much confirms they're using dirt-cheap refined salt
    Grilling with good, flavorful salt is the whole point — this basically says 'this place is for suckers who go for the show'
    54AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:17
    Wearing a phone around her neck is weird too
    Phones are supposedly dirtier than a toilet seat
    And right at the start she shoves it out of the way like it's in her hair
    55AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:17
    If the salt that falls on the floor is just getting flushed straight down the drain, that's speeding up pipe corrosion in the area
    56AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:17
    Working with a phone dangling around her neck is wild, looks like her personal phone too
    And she's adjusting its position with her bare hands, that's just done for
    Phones are basically toilet-seat-level filthy
    58AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:19
    They say it's aimed at foreigners, but are there even restaurants overseas that pull stunts like this?
    60AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:24
    Japan's always been a country with basically infinite salt, so using this much is fine
    76AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:33
    Experience-focused restaurants just aren't for the cost-performance obsessed guys (kosupa-oji)
    78AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:34
    Re: #76
    'Not for cost-performance guys' → wrong
    'Not for normal, sane people' → correct
    82AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:39
    Honestly this is fine
    Sumo wrestlers scatter way more salt than this
    That's the one that actually has no real point
    88AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:43
    Re: #82
    Well, that one's a ritual though

    If this fish or shrimp were cursed and needed a ton of salt dumped on them, everyone would totally get it
    90AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:46
    Re: #82
    It's a holdover from when it was a Shinto rite to ward off evil spirits and pray for a bountiful harvest, so it technically still carries meaning
    91AnonymousAug 18, 2026 10:49
    Re: #82
    That's totally different
    To begin with, that's not done as a joke. Though the times wrestlers goof around and fling huge amounts during regional tours, that's basically the same as this video

    Background and Key Points

    Shiogama-yaki, the technique posters invoke to defend the video, is a specific method: a whole fish is packed in a paste of salt and egg white and baked until it hardens into a shell, which seals in moisture and lightly seasons the flesh as it steams inside. It is not the same act as pouring loose refined salt over a fish on an open robata grill, which is why several posters call the comparison a category error. Robatayaki restaurants built around live, camera-ready hearth cooking have become a recognizable genre on Japanese social media, and stunts like this are usually aimed at video engagement as much as at diners in the room. On pricing, ordinary Japanese table salt runs only a few hundred yen per kilogram at retail, so the raw cost of the salt shown is trivial even by the thread’s own math.

    The actual fault line in the thread is narrower than “wasteful or not” — it’s whether the shiogama-yaki defense holds up at all, with several posters concluding the two dishes share nothing but the word “salt,” and whether a near-zero ingredient cost invalidates charging for the show.

    One claim readers should question: a poster asserts Japan has “basically infinite salt,” but Japan has almost no usable salt fields because of its humid climate, and domestic salt was a government monopoly (senbai seido) until deregulation in 1997 specifically because supply was historically scarce, not abundant. No one in the thread also notes that sumo’s salt-throwing (kiyome no shio) is a Shinto purification rite for the ring, not a food-preparation act, despite being pulled into the debate as a comparison.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Video] Female Chef: ‘Salt on Fish? This Much Is Normal’“.

  • Is a 90-Minute Commute Too Long? 5ch: “Round-Trip, That’s 4 Hours Wasted”

    “Isn’t it crazy to spend more than an hour and a half commuting?” — that post kicked off a wide-ranging debate on 5ch about commute times. Users shared stories of commutes stretching from 20 minutes to 2 hours after company-mandated transfers, and confessions of losing 4 hours a day round-trip, before the discussion expanded into whether remote work is the answer and how it factors into buying versus renting a home.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:15
    Yeah, myself included, I genuinely think that.
    2AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:16
    The company just transfers you somewhere far away without even asking.
    4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:17
    Re: #2
    Exactly this.
    My commute went from 20 minutes to 2 hours too.
    25AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:31
    Re: #2
    Just move, then.
    6AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:19
    Even a 30-minute commute wastes an hour round-trip.
    That's a precious hour out of 24 wasted every single day.
    8AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:20
    Re: #6
    I'm wasting a full 4 hours a day on my commute.
    It's brutal.
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:22
    Isn't living too close bad too, though? Running into coworkers near your house would kill me 🥺
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:23
    Re: #10
    But being able to walk to work is amazing, isn't it?
    Your mornings are way less rushed.
    13AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:24
    A 90-minute one-way commute is rough for sure, but round-trip, well, that's just how it goes I guess.
    16AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:25
    Re: #13
    Round-trip, that's totally fine then.
    15AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:25
    I've been working from home for 6 years now, and commuting really is just a waste of your life.
    17AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:26
    Re: #15
    Winner in life.
    With a job like that you can live anywhere.
    Seriously jealous.
    18AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:27
    I once had a coworker who commuted from Yokohama to Abiko — thought that was insane.
    21AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:29
    Re: #18
    About 90 minutes, huh.
    That's pretty far.
    Also, whether you can get a seat matters a lot on a long commute.
    19AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:28
    My office is a 3-minute walk from home and it's amazing.
    I can even eat lunch at home.
    During COVID I was the only one who had to come in to answer phones, and having the whole office to myself was actually a fun change of pace.
    20AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:28
    Re: #17
    But your world really shrinks.
    You stop leaving your own neighborhood.
    24AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:31
    Re: #20
    I live in a town I actually like, so to me that only sounds like a plus…
    26AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:31
    Re: #21
    Both Ueno and Abiko are terminal stations, so apparently he could always get a seat (the Joban Line only ran as far as Ueno back then).
    Still, that must've been rough.
    29AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:33
    Re: #26
    It's rough… At first you think you'll use the commute productively, like studying for certifications, but whether it's exhaustion or what, you just end up sleeping the whole way.
    28AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:32
    Re: #25
    It's my own home, so it's not that simple to just…
    31AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:34
    Re: #28
    They say commute time and odds of getting depressed rise together.
    Not sure owning a home is worth that much, though.
    32AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:34
    Re: #28
    My department head owns a house too, but on top of that he rents his own apartment — a 3-minute walk from the office, same as me.
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:33
    Why are companies ditching remote work?
    Are people just stupid?
    33AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:36
    Re: #30
    Any job that can go remote should just go remote, full stop.
    Trains would be less packed too.
    34AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:37
    I don't feel like I belong at home or at work, so the commute is the only time I get any peace.
    37AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:37
    Re: #34
    That's kind of sad…
    How long is your commute?
    35AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:37
    Re: #31
    Still, there's something to be said for feeling settled and being able to lose yourself in a hobby, so I want to go home to my own house.
    53AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:53
    Re: #35
    What kind of hobby can you only do if you own your home?
    56AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:58
    Re: #53
    Model building and playing instruments…
    61AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:00
    Re: #53
    Instruments do seem pretty rough to keep up in a rental.
    38AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:37
    Even just a room to sleep in is fine — better to rent a place near work.
    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:38
    Re: #38
    I get that, but
    there are things you just can't do unless it's your own place…
    39AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:38
    The shorter your commute, the better, period — it's crazy that there's not a single upside to a long one.
    43AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:39
    Re: #39
    At first you always think you'll put the time to good use somehow…
    44AnonymousAug 21, 2026 10:41
    Re: #39
    So true.
    Even company-paid transit allowances get taxed, so the farther and pricier your commute, the more you lose out.
    81AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:13
    OP:

    Waking up, breakfast, getting ready: 1 hour
    Commute (round trip): 4 hours
    Work hours: 8 hours
    Lunch break: 1 hour
    Prep before clocking in: 30 minutes

    So that's about 14.5 hours a day spent on work-related stuff?
    91AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:20
    Re: #81
    And after you get home there's still prepping for tomorrow and answering emails.
    100AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:32
    The factory I work at is shutting down, so there's nothing I can do about it — is 90 minutes really that rough for you guys?
    101AnonymousAug 21, 2026 11:35
    Re: #100
    That's 3 hours a day burned just commuting.
    Can you handle that?

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s commuting culture rests on two institutions foreign readers may not know. First, *tsuukin teate* (commuting allowance): employers reimburse train/bus fares, and by law this reimbursement is tax-exempt up to ¥150,000 a month — so poster 44’s complaint that “even the allowance gets taxed” only applies to the portion above that generous threshold, not to a typical commute. Second, *tenkin/tenpu* (company-ordered transfers): large Japanese firms can reassign salaried employees to a distant office or branch with little negotiation, which is why poster 2’s one-line complaint (“the company just transfers you without asking”) lands as self-evidently unfair to other posters rather than being challenged — it’s a structural feature of lifetime-employment-style firms, not a personal choice. Average one-way commutes in greater Tokyo run 40-50 minutes, so a 90-minute trip is long but not unusual for people living in Chiba, Ibaraki, or Kanagawa exurbs and working in central Tokyo.

    The thread doesn’t actually split over whether long commutes are bad — everyone agrees they are. The real fault line is what to do about it: accept it as a trade-off for homeownership and a settled neighborhood (posts 28, 31, 35), or treat remote work as the obvious fix and wonder why companies are pulling back from it (30, 33). A second, smaller split is over proximity itself — some want distance from coworkers (10), others prize the short commute anyway (19, 24).

    What’s missing is scale: national survey data (comparable to Japan’s own Housing and Land Survey) puts the *average* Japanese commute closer to 40 minutes round trip, meaning this thread’s participants, self-selected into an “over 90 minutes” discussion, aren’t representative of typical commuters.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Anyone who spends more than 90 minutes commuting is an idiot.”

  • What’s Billy Joel’s Signature Song? Hello! Project Board Weighs In

    A thread titled “Billy Joel’s Ultimate Song” on the Hello! Project board had fans rattling off classics like Piano Man and We Didn’t Start the Fire one after another. The discussion even touched on how the Japanese hit “Ai wa Katsu” (Love Will Win) was inspired by Billy Joel’s “Uptown Girl,” and how the Up-Front group of labels — Hello! Project included — covered it in the wake of the Great East Japan Earthquake, sparking excitement over this unexpected link between Western music and Hello! Project.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:33
    Uh… 'York State of Mind'?
    4AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:36
    "The Longest Time" (punned here as "long hair" [ロン毛] + "suto")
    5AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:37
    Piano Man
    6AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:37
    Change the World
    7AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:38
    The Stranger
    8AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:40
    Honesty
    9AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:41
    Smoke on the Water
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:44
    New York City Serenade
    12AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:47
    Livin' on a Prayer
    13AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:47
    Beat It
    19AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:51
    I read the Japanese translation of Honesty's lyrics and it just didn't do it for me.
    Maybe Just the Way You Are is better.
    28AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:55
    Re: #1
    We Didn't Start the Fire
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:57
    An arrangement of Beethoven's 'Pathétique'
    This Night
    36AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:01
    Apparently he's still alive at 77 (kiju).
    But he announced a tour cancellation last year due to illness.
    39AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:03
    We Didn't Start The Fire
    59AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:17
    Re: #50
    Lol, "consciously"?
    It's so blatant you can tell it's Billy Joel the instant you hear Ai wa Katsu.
    60AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:21
    Girls, Girls, Girls
    61AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:22
    Do They Know It's Christmas?
    62AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:25
    Nobody's brought up Welcome to the Jungle yet
    63AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:26
    Re: #50
    Wasn't it Morning Musume up through the 9th generation that just barely made the cut to join in?
    64AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:30
    Re: #50
    Even Billy Joel ends up tying back to Hello! Project.
    That's wild.
    87AnonymousAug 22, 2026 00:45
    Re: #64
    If just echoing someone's style counts as a "connection," then anything goes.
    Hoshibe (a Hello! Project songwriter) will hook you up with connections like that all day.
    65AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:32
    I first found out about Billy Joel from that Honda scooter commercial ("Honda Kau Boy")
    68AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:41
    He's a genius, huh
    102AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:53
    Re: #68
    I read somewhere that he's a genius, but his early work was so good he struggled to ever top himself.
    Apparently he'd hit slumps because nothing he wrote could beat his early stuff.
    78AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:54
    All About Soul
    My favorite Billy Joel song from the '90s
    88AnonymousAug 22, 2026 00:49
    Re: #87
    Source, please
    90AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:11
    Re: #88
    Where'd you wander in from?
    Anyway, take Kobushi Factory's song "Nen ni wa Nen" for starters

    It's basically just T.Rex's "20th Century Boy" riff sped up.
    And the call-and-response chorus in the verse is lifted straight from The Who's "My Generation."

    You could probably find a whole list if you Google it.
    92AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:20
    Re: #90
    Whoa, hold on, hold on.
    This is about how "Ai wa Katsu" — the massive domestic hit born out of Billy Joel's worldwide smash "Uptown Girl" — got renewed attention when the whole Up-Front stable, Hello! Project included, covered it after the Great East Japan Earthquake.

    And here you are countering with some obscure song Hoshibe wrote for some random group? I'm honestly amazed you'd even bring that up.
    89AnonymousAug 22, 2026 00:59
    The commercial jingle that got me into Western music — This Night, off the Innocent Man album
    91AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:15
    Re: #89
    I love Innocent Man
    93AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:27
    Piano Man, hands down.
    It used to play all the time at boys' bars (host clubs).
    94AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:28
    Your Song
    97AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:32
    Re: #94
    That's the UK's "Piano Man" (i.e., Elton John), not Billy Joel
    100AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:34
    Re: #92
    So it only counts as a connection if it was a hit?
    What about Love Machine's "Venus," Happy Summer Wedding's "Donna Summer," or "Genghis Khan"?
    Or does Misora Hibari's "Omatsuri Mambo" not count as a hit either?
    101AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:35
    Frisco is a Rock City
    103AnonymousAug 22, 2026 01:57
    Re: #101
    Starship?
    110AnonymousAug 22, 2026 02:11
    I'm in a New York state of mind
    112AnonymousAug 22, 2026 02:57
    Just the Way You Are

    Background and Key Points

    Billy Joel is one of the best-selling artists in US history, with 33 Top 40 hits and a run of 1970s-80s albums (The Stranger, 52nd Street, An Innocent Man) that remain fixtures on Japanese TV and radio through commercial tie-ins — several posters trace their own first exposure to a Honda scooter ad. He turned 77 this year but canceled touring in 2024 after a diagnosed brain disorder, which is why one poster referenced his health rather than new music. The Hello! Project connection is specific and real: “Ai wa Katsu (Love Will Win),” a charity single covered by Up-Front Works artists including Morning Musume after the March 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami, borrows its melodic hook from Joel’s 1983 hit “Uptown Girl.” That’s a genuine, acknowledged musical lineage, not a stretch.

    Where the thread actually splits is less about which song is “best” than about how legitimate that Hello! Project link is. One poster frames “Ai wa Katsu” as a clear, deliberate homage; another pushes back that this kind of “it’s basically the same riff” claim is so loose it could tie almost any Western song to Hello! Project, citing Kobushi Factory’s borrowings from T.Rex and The Who as an equally “valid” but absurd comparison.

    What outside readers will likely miss is that the Joel-to-J-pop pipeline runs deeper than one cover: Hoshibe, a longtime Hello! Project songwriter, has a reputation among fans for lifting hooks and structures from Western classic rock across multiple idol tracks, which is why the “connection” claim reads to some posters as an in-joke about a known pattern rather than a one-off discovery.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Billy Joel’s Ultimate Song.”

  • 5chers Get Hooked on Making AI Art Characters — “The Fingers Look Off, Let Me Post a Different One… Wait, That’s a Dude”

    Season 2 of the popular “Mr. AI Art” thread on 5ch’s Newsspeed VIP board has kicked off. Participants are cranking out characters with image-generating AI and posting them one after another, riffing on telltale AI quirks like oddly rendered fingers along the way.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:10
    Season 2, let's go!
    9AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:17
    Kinda early to start a new thread, no?
    Anyway, that lightning outside is wild!

    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:17
    Barkeep! Gimme it in a pint glass!
    21AnonymousAug 21, 2026 16:48
    https://tadaup.jp/8uOC2D1j.webp
    https://tadaup.jp/8VfBvxoI.webp
    27AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:03
    29AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:12
    30AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:12
    32AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:18
    33AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:22
    34AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:32
    Joke pic
    35AnonymousAug 21, 2026 17:42
    36AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:12
    38AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:14
    39AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:37
    Joke pic

    40AnonymousAug 21, 2026 18:38
    Sorry for borrowing everyone's characters since yesterday m(__)m (a bowing-apology emoticon)



    64AnonymousAug 21, 2026 20:15
    (…my summer homework still isn't done…)
    91AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:19
    https://tadaup.jp/8gBVAdW6.png

    Rabbit
    95AnonymousAug 21, 2026 22:33
    Re: #91
    Found a rabbit-shaped bottle in the background
    108AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:03
    https://tadaup.jp/8PSbvQD1.png
    Vaped some Seven Stars (a cigarette brand) flavor on my C-Vapor and nearly gagged
    127AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:32
    135AnonymousAug 22, 2026 00:02
    Re: #127
    (︈◕ ͜ ͜ ◕)︈ I have no idea what that means
    134AnonymousAug 21, 2026 23:54
    This one's set up as an otoko no ko (a boy who looks like a girl), so…
    how about this


    138AnonymousAug 22, 2026 00:15
    The fingers look off, let me post a different one
    But it's a dude

    169AnonymousAug 22, 2026 02:24
    Didn't specify a character, but once you cram in all your favorite quirks they all end up looking the same, huh

    Background and Key Points

    This isn’t much of a debate thread — it’s mostly a rapid-fire posting gallery — so the commentary should lean on background rather than pretend there was a real split.

    5ch’s Newsspeed VIP board (通称”なんJVIP” or just “VIP”) is one of the oldest and most freewheeling boards on Japan’s largest anonymous forum network, known for absurdist humor threads that run for hundreds of posts and often spin into numbered “seasons” once a format catches on. The “Mr. AI Art” (AI絵師さん) thread format follows that pattern: someone opens a thread, generators start dumping images made with tools like Stable Diffusion or NovelAI, and the running joke is spotting the AI’s tells — warped hands, extra fingers, melted background objects — before someone posts a fix that has a new, unrelated flaw.

    There isn’t really a dispute to summarize here; the posts are a loose stream of images and one-line captions rather than an argument. The closest thing to a turn is post >>134’s setup of an otoko no ko (a male character drawn in a feminine/moe style, a well-established anime-fan aesthetic distinct from simple crossdressing) followed by >>138’s admission that a “fixed” repost of a girl character turned out to be male — a punchline about AI models conflating stylistic femininity with gender that recurs in Japanese AI-art circles specifically because so much anime-style training data draws bishōnen and moe-girl characters with nearly identical facial proportions.

    What outside readers may miss is scale: threads like this can run into dozens of “seasons” over months, and the appeal isn’t polished output so much as communal spectacle — mocking the tool’s failures together is the actual social activity, not the art itself.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Newsspeed VIP) thread “Mr. AI Art, Season 2 Has Begun — You Can Even Make Cute Girls.”