A thread titled “Why does the ‘Ōkami’ (Wolf) board have so many anti-fans who treat ANGERME as public enemy number one?” popped up on 5ch’s “Ōkami” board — the gathering place for Hello! Project group fans — and drew 41 replies. Many posters argued it’s blowback from ANGERME fans (known as “Anjuwota”) having attacked other groups themselves in the past, while others suggested the group is simply being scapegoated now that its popularity has slipped. Some brought up “Ankasu,” the nickname for Juice=Juice fans, and others compared the situation to the old Berryz Kobo vs. °C-ute fan rivalry, with opinions split over the board’s internal power dynamics.
So basically Juice=Juice is a massive threat then, huh
Nobody's going out of their way to bash them either
That's probably just what they want to believe
Honestly I don't care who bashes us — we're insanely popular in exchange
If anything, it's fans of declining groups who tend to want to pin the blame on just one scapegoat
But if you're only hated by one group, that means you're popular to begin with
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1789817681/
The burnout who pastes sales numbers around without sleeping
went at each other for years — for anyone who watched that, this is just an everyday sight
And it's funny how the structure where Morning Musume fans lorded over all of it
collapsed in 2026
People are just evaluating the current group with a cool head
Getting bashed? lol Bashed by who, outside the Ōkami board? lol
Copy-paste trolling and bashing other groups all get pinned on Anjuwota,
so a lot of them gave up on the Ōkami board in despair and left
and now they probably can't help tweeting on X with the same victim mentality and Ōkami-style attitude
But the fact that the main ANGERME thread just quietly died out with no sign of reviving
means this lopsided situation is bound to bring trouble to the whole Ōkami board eventually
You mean ANGERME already fell and just stayed down?
Apparently they think nobody's noticed
ANGERME never even rose in the first place
We Juice fans haven't forgotten how the Ankasu crowd was whooping it up when they skipped playing Budokan a few years back
Confessing that it's Juice fans doing the bashing doesn't really help your case…
It's coming back around as a boomerang right about now
Subscriber numbers didn't budge an inch
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
“Ōkami” (Wolf) is the nickname for the 5ch board where threads for Hello! Project-affiliated groups congregate, home to fans of Morning Musume, ANGERME, Juice=Juice, and more, all under one roof. Because of the popularity gaps between groups and old grudges, the board’s structure makes clashes between fans easy to spark, and the past rivalry between Berryz Kobo and °C-ute fans gets cited as one example of that. In this thread too, opinions split between those who framed the attacks on ANGERME as “poetic justice for Anjuwota having bashed other groups in the past” and those who said it’s “simply that a group whose popularity has dropped becomes an easy scapegoat” — both are just posters’ personal opinions, and there’s no objective evidence in the thread showing which view is actually the majority. The frequent use of derogatory nicknames like “Ankasu” for fan groups also hints at how deep the rivalry runs.
※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Why ‘Ōkami’ Has So Many Anti-Fans Who Treat ANGERME as Public Enemy Number One.”
