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  • Murakami Shoji Mistakes Rookie Momoha Nagano for Sayumi Michishige — 5ch: ‘Are We All Just Missing Chayu?’

    During a live broadcast in the ‘Sanma no Manma’ radio lineup, Hello! Project newcomer Momoha Nagano appeared as a guest. When comedian Shoji Murakami glanced at her profile, he briefly mistook her for former Morning Musume leader Sayumi Michishige, as though she’d made a comeback — and the moment became a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. Michishige, known for her catchphrase ‘Sasuga!’ (‘As expected!’), graduated from the group in 2014. The thread was topped by a reply reading ‘Are we having Chayu withdrawal?’ (using Michishige’s nickname ‘Chayu’), with opinions split over whether Nagano really resembles Michishige, and how she stacks up against other members who’ve drawn the same comparison in the past.

    1AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:46
    Sanma: Today's guest is, well, Momoha Nagano.
    Murakami: Momoha…
    Sanma: Momoha — that's her real name too, right?
    2AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:46
    So Shoji's got Chayu withdrawal too, huh
    31AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:06
    Re: #1
    Re: #2
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    If you all post too, I won't have to talk to myself to bump the thread, so please keep posting.
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    3AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:47
    — You have such a wide range of skills for someone so new to the industry. Is that the result of effort we don't get to see?
    Nagano: I have a strong image in my head of 'the kind of idol I want to be.' I'm particular about that, and I'm trial-and-erroring my way toward it every day. Personally, I still feel like I have a long way to go.

    — We'd love to hear about that ideal idol image.
    Nagano: I guess it's an idol who lets fans enjoy themselves with genuine, honest feelings. And I want people to watch that growth process too. I look up to two of my Hello! Project senpai, Momoko Tsugunaga and Sayumi Michishige, so I want to become someone who combines the best, most admirable parts of both of them!
    20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:53
    Re: #3
    Mochi (Nagano's nickname)
    Her ideal is 'someone who pursues cuteness until it becomes coolness —
    an embodiment of fans' ideals'


    — that's what she said in a separate solo interview.
    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:47
    Grandpa Sanma was missing Michishige too
    6AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:48
    > Sanma: Oh, you're matching the look, aren't you?
    > Nagano: Today I did my makeup looking at a photo of Michishige-san.

    Being able to toss out a little fib like that so smoothly is next-level.
    7AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:49
    Re: #1
    Murakami's also the one who once mixed up Angerme and Juice=Juice
    10AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:49
    > Sanma: So it's because you figured we like Michishige — and you copied her look?
    > Nagano: Um, it's because I really like Michishige-san…
    > Sanma: Right. You didn't just match it to Yantan (Young Town, the radio show), did you?

    She should've said something like, 'Michishige-san was on Young Town for years, so I'm sure you're both familiar with her — but I myself am also a huge fan of hers—' here.
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:50
    Holding her own in front of Sanma and Shoji on their very first meeting without flinching — now that's star quality.
    16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:51
    Re: #13
    Well, that's only natural — she's from the generation that grew up after TV lost its power. She'd probably get more nervous standing in front of HIKAKIN (Japan's top YouTuber).
    14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:50
    Let's get Murakoshi-chan and Mocchi on together!
    15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:50
    tp://pbs.twimg.com/media/HTrHZ6wacAAX2Gv.jpg:orig#.jpg

    Isn't that Murakoshi?
    22AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:55
    Re: #15
    Sanma's talking about the overall vibe, but
    Shoji's saying 'they look alike, they look alike' because he's not even wearing his glasses.
    41AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:21
    Re: #15
    Only the left eye looks alike.
    Other than the left eye, she actually looks more like Reina Tanaka.
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:51
    Even Mochi seemed nervous, as you'd expect, but she pushed forward aggressively — she even forced her way through two kobanashi (short comedy bits).
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:53

    https://i.imgur.com/IHqsHFk.mp4
    25AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:57
    Re: #18
    Lol, she's turning it into material
    19AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:53
    Hearing Sanma himself say 'we like Michishige' — if she heard that, she'd probably be thrilled.
    21AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:54
    Oh, so she should've brought up Michishige?
    Well, but she probably doesn't know that much about her anyway…
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:00
    Re: #1
    Yeah, I figured as much.
    I (posting here as 'Pore') also watched her up close recently at the TOYOTA event —
    and she resembled Sayumi, who I've watched probably hundreds of millions of times, in her bearing, her silhouette, even her tiniest movements.
    She's on a totally different level of resemblance compared to any member before.
    I thought I was going to die.
    27AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:01
    Murakoshi is like Mano Erina, and Mano is like Michishige — so it's really no surprise that Nagano goes straight to Michishige too.
    29AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:04
    Gruner
    @viscountgruner
    She looks a little like my fellow hometown girl Mochi, aka Momoha Nagano. Did we know each other in a past life?
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HThYv5HbEAAc7ah.jpg
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:09
    Re: #29
    From the thumbnail I thought it was Ichika-chan, but when I opened it, it turned out to be Ogata.
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:09
    Yokaze looks like Michishige too.
    Kitagawa looks like Michishige too.
    39AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:19
    Sanma and Shoji, who love Sayu (Michishige) and Mochi (Nagano) way too much
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:21
    Michishige's a koala with a masculine face; Nagano's a koala with a feminine face. That's really the only difference.
    43AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:24
    With the desks spaced this far apart,
    looks like there's no risk of spit flying over.
    45AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:30
    Her name is 'Momoha-chan' —
    a clear nod of respect to Sayumi Michishige, the symbol of pink —
    and yet her member color isn't pink?!

    Hello! Project management must be out of their minds.
    Morons.
    47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:31
    Re: #45
    Can't help it — Tamenaga and Shimoitani already have pink.
    They can't exactly strip it from them.
    50AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:35
    Re: #47
    Airi Yamazaki.

    Yep, debate settled.
    51AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:36
    Re: #47
    I see…
    So management can't really pull off something like handing Panda-san's green over to the rookie Yasuda-chan, huh.
    46AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:31
    Kawashima or Yokaze look more similar, don't they?
    Has that not come up yet?
    48AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:32
    Personally, I think she's the same type as Inaba.
    49AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:33
    Is this guy switching the zero in his ID on and off again to talk to himself?
    52AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:38
    By the way —
    Sayumi Michishige actually loved pink since she was little, but when she first joined Morning Musume, she got stuck as the yellow member.

    The moment her pink-member senior graduated, she instantly evolved into the pink member.
    Maybe Momoha Nagano is going to walk the exact same path as Sayumi Michishige.
    53AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:42
    Chayu (Michishige) publicly declared at her graduation concert that she was passing the pink down — so Mochi should do the same.
    55AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:46
    Neither Tamenaga nor Shimoitani really has a 'pink' kind of character anyway, but I guess it can't be helped — that's just how the cards fell.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Sayumi Michishige joined Morning Musume in 2003 and later served as its leader, a popular member known for her catchphrase ‘Sasuga!’ (‘As expected!’) and her distinctive aura. More than ten years have passed since her 2014 graduation, but as this thread’s reactions show, she remains a Hello! Project senior whom newcomers are still readily compared to. In an interview, Momoha Nagano herself named Michishige and Momoko Tsugunaga as idols she looks up to, suggesting she may be consciously channeling that vibe — meaning Murakami’s momentary mix-up wasn’t simply a random error, but overlapped to some degree with Nagano’s own intent. At the same time, commenters in the thread pointed out that the claimed resemblance rests on limited factors like camera angle and makeup, and that other members have been compared to Michishige in the same way before — suggesting the debate says less about any one member’s actual resemblance than about just how powerful and long-lasting Michishige’s image remains across generations.

    ※This article is an excerpt and summary based on the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Great News] Shoji Murakami (71) Glimpses Momoha Nagano’s Profile and Mistakenly Thinks Sayumi Michishige Has Returned LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL“.

  • Hanshin Clinches Back-to-Back Pennants, Fans Dive into Dotonbori River — One Guy in His 20s Does It 4 Times; 5ch: ‘Guess Tiger Fans Are Having Fewer Kids Too’

    The Hanshin Tigers clinched back-to-back Central League pennants on October 3, even after losing to the Hiroshima Carp. The traditional victory “dive” into Osaka’s Dotonbori River continued despite heavy police security — witnesses counted 10 people diving in a combined 23 times, with one man in his 20s jumping in by himself four separate times. Police even had to step in to mediate a fight between rival Tigers fans. On 5ch, discussion spread around the fact that the celebration takes place in Osaka’s Dotonbori even though the team is actually based in Nishinomiya, Hyogo, and that Dotonbori is technically closer to the home turf of the Orix Buffaloes.

    Fans Dive into Dotonbori One After Another as Hanshin Clinches Back-to-Back Titles — Man in His 20s Dives Four Times… Police Step In to Mediate Fight Between Rival Tigers Fans

    ◆JERA Central League: Hiroshima 6–4 Hanshin (Oct. 3, Mazda Stadium)

    On the 3rd, the day Hanshin secured the first back-to-back pennants in the team’s history, heavy security was in place at Osaka’s famous Dotonbori River tourist spot — but a total of 10 people were witnessed making the “Dotonbori Dive” 23 times combined.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:25
    They literally hoisted some guy in orange clothes up and chucked him into the river together, that's insane
    45AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:56
    Re: #4
    A Giants fan, huh
    I wanna see that
    89AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:36
    Re: #4
    Back in 2003 some guy wore a Hara (then-Giants manager) uniform
    Back when it was just starting to catch on
    He posted it on a blog, not a video — titled something like "I tried going to Dotonbori in a Hara uniform" — it was hilarious
    Everyone around him was yelling "throw him in, throw him in!"
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:31
    They're a Hyogo team, so why do they dive in Osaka?
    14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    Re: #12
    Hanshin is a symbol of Naniwa (Osaka) culture
    Territorial rights are just a business arrangement
    https://hanshintigers.jp/event/game/b-luck_dynamite2026/
    24AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:37
    Re: #12
    Hyogo does have the Muko River near Koshien, but there's no entertainment district there, so nobody would notice even if you jumped in
    15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    What happens if the bacteria get into their internal organs?
    16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    Typical "chin-wota" (derogatory nickname for Tigers fans/otaku)
    Still pulling stunts like it's the Showa era
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    Diving 4 times just gets old and tedious
    Same with stripping fully naked — do that four times and nobody's laughing anymore
    20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:35
    >A total of 10 people as far as witnesses could tell

    Guess even Tiger fans are hit by the declining birthrate lol
    29AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:40
    Re: #20
    There were 200 officers on duty at the start of the game in broad daylight, and by the time the Giants lost their night game that had grown to 800
    That's the result of all that police security
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:38
    Wait, why Dotonbori River though — that's Orix's turf
    If you're a real Hanshin fan, dive off the Akashi Kaikyo Bridge instead
    28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:39
    Re: #26
    Hanshin is a symbol of Naniwa (Osaka) culture
    Territorial rights are just a business arrangement
    https://hanshintigers.jp/event/game/b-luck_dynamite2026/
    30AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:41
    Re: #26
    Plenty of people don't even know where Orix is based
    People who aren't into baseball still think they're a Kobe team
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:46
    Re: #26
    The idea that "Hanshin is strictly a Nishinomiya, Hyogo team with nothing to do with Osaka, so go dive off a bridge in Nishinomiya instead" — that's the kind of hometown-loyalty thinking soccer fans love
    32AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:41
    There probably aren't many fans left who remember the pennant win back in '64
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:43
    Re: #32
    That was back when today's 75-and-up crowd were kids
    41AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:52
    There's a real gap in enthusiasm between the rest of Japan and Osaka
    Can't believe people still get this hyped over baseball in the Reiwa era
    80AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:30
    Re: #41
    Areas with a pro baseball team really do have baseball ingrained in the local culture
    It pulls good ratings too — it's popular content
    49AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:57
    So are they gonna dive again if they win the Climax Series, and dive yet again if they win the Japan Series?
    58AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:01
    Re: #49
    They'll dive every single time, win or lose
    61AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:04
    To put it bluntly
    The Yamaguchi-gumi yakuza guys in Kobe are Giants fans
    So this whole "Hanshin Tigers are a symbol of Naniwa culture" thing is absolutely not true
    In southern Osaka there are more Giants fans than Tigers fans
    They've got Giants calendars hanging on their walls lol
    Old-guy Tigers fans in Kansai remember the dark ages (the Tigers' long losing streak), so they're always on edge, wondering when the rug's gonna get pulled out from under them again lol lol
    69AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:17
    Re: #61
    Kuwata and Kiyohara were Giants fans too, and there are plenty of Giants players from Kansai
    Uehara's one, and Sakamoto went to Kosei Gakuin High School but was born in Osaka, right
    73AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:19
    But still, Hanshin is technically a Hyogo team, and it's Orix that's actually based in Osaka now
    In Kanto terms, it'd be like DeNA winning the pennant and people in central Tokyo being the ones going wild about it
    83AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:32
    Re: #73
    Hanshin is a symbol of Naniwa (Osaka) culture
    Territorial rights are just a business arrangement
    https://hanshintigers.jp/event/game/b-luck_dynamite2026/
    88AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:35
    Re: #73
    It's basically like the Tokyo Giants building their stadium out in Yatsu, Narashino
    76AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:24
    They lost the actual game but still won the pennant because the Giants also lost — getting this hyped over such a lame way of clinching it just shows how dumb people are
    91AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:39
    Re: #76
    Winning the pennant is the result of an entire season's play though?
    What's lame about that?
    86AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:33
    There's always some staged media ("masu-gomi"/trash-media slur) stunt mixed in, every single time
    87AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:35
    Re: #86
    I was actually there — some outlet interviewed the first guy who jumped in afterward, so I don't think it was staged
    90AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:37
    How did the 5,300 people who jumped in back in '85 even get home?
    They sure didn't take the train or a taxi soaked like that
    Fine, make noise in Namba, but seriously
    don't go causing trouble for everyone else
    You're dragging Osaka's image down, you jerks
    92AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:39
    Re: #90
    Apparently nearby shops and hotels ban you from entering once you've jumped into Dotonbori, so things get rough afterward

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The Dotonbori Dive tradition dates back to 1985, the night Hanshin won its first-ever Japan Series title. Famously, a Colonel Sanders statue was even thrown into the river that night, and the team’s long losing streak afterward came to be known as the “Curse of the Colonel.” Hanshin’s home stadium is Koshien in Nishinomiya, Hyogo, but the celebrations happen in Dotonbori in Osaka’s Minami district because Tigers fandom runs wide across the whole Kansai region and Dotonbori is a famous entertainment district. Opinions in the thread were split on two points: fans of Hanshin and the Orix Buffaloes — whose home turf is actually closer to Dotonbori — often get mixed up, and there’s a real gap between those who accept the dives as a fun tradition and those who see them as a public nuisance.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geisokuho+) thread “[Baseball] Fans Dive into Dotonbori One After Another as Hanshin Clinches Back-to-Back Titles — Man in His 20s Dives Four Times… Police Step In to Mediate Fight Between Rival Tigers Fans.”

  • “Halo Shop” Tokyo Store Reopening Stuck in “Planning” for a Year — 5ch: “The Broke-Ass Agency Can’t Even Afford Rent”

    It’s been almost a year since Hello! Project’s official goods store “Hello! Shop” announced that a new Tokyo store was “being planned at a new location.” The chain originally closed stores like the Akihabara/Suehirocho location due to high rent and shifted to mail order, leaving fans with a mix of hope and frustration about a possible comeback. On 5ch, while names like Ikebukuro, Akabane, and Gotanda were floated as possible relocation sites, the thread devolved into an argument over whether operating company Up-Front’s Takanawa studio is a company-owned building or a rental (leasehold) — complete with a fact-checking battle citing real estate listings and land price data.

    They said it was “in the planning stages” a year ago already.

    >Regarding the new store in Tokyo, we are aiming to create

    >a space fans will love for years to come, and are currently planning

    >to open it at a new location.

    Source: helloproject.com / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:50
    Back when the Tokyo store closed, even the Osaka store was a ghost town with barely anything to sell — but it feels like they've bounced back with more merchandise since then.
    This might be the last chance for a reopening.
    I guess prime real estate where they could also hold in-store events is just too expensive, huh.
    5AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:50
    It's a broke-ass agency, remember?
    They can't afford the rent.
    7AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:53
    Re: #5
    No way a broke agency built its own studio building in Takanawa.
    8AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:55
    Ikebukuro would be fine, right?
    It's got a bad reputation and is considered "ill-omened land" (an area stigmatized, often due to past incidents), so it's a bit cheaper than other parts of Tokyo.
    24AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:17
    Re: #8
    Ikebukuro would seriously be a relief.
    9AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:56
    If they want events, they could just use Sunshine City.
    10AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:59
    Dunno the going rates, but somewhere like Akabane, Kita-Senju, Kasai, or Kamata would work fine too.
    11AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:59
    Re: #7
    They said the same thing about Akabanebashi, and that turned out to be a rental too, lol
    This one's probably gonna end up a rental again as well.
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:06
    Re: #11
    It's a company-owned building.

    >A newly built two-story company-owned building was constructed, featuring an in-house studio area and office area,
    >and our company handled the design and construction of the recording studio,
    >which includes two lesson studios plus a control room and recording booth.
    https://www.noe.co.jp/technology/55/55news9.html
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:00
    That plain little studio the wota (hardcore fan slang for devoted otaku) are desperately trying to pass off as a "real building" actually exposed how little money they have.
    Talk about backfiring, lol
    19AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:12
    Re: #13
    Modest?
    So if they lined up some grimy old boards like AKB does, it wouldn't be modest anymore?
    14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:01
    I figured mail order would be fine, but they've quietly jacked up the shipping fees too~
    No free-shipping threshold or anything — total lord-of-the-manor business attitude.
    Wish they'd hurry up and sort out the Tokyo store.
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:04
    If they're going to open it,
    they'll probably tie it to the 30th anniversary.
    While they're at it, I wish they'd let us pick up pre-ordered concert merch there too.
    20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:12
    Sure, right around the time Takanawa Gateway Station gets built (a station famous for how long its construction dragged on — the joke being this'll take just as long).
    22AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:13
    Isn't there a decent property in Akihabara or Harajuku?
    50AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:41
    Re: #22
    They closed the Suehirocho shop because the rent was insanely high — no way they'd go for Akihabara or Harajuku.
    Somewhere like Kameari, Koiwa, or Itabashi might actually have a shot.
    23AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:14
    AKB has its own lavish theater, but Hello! Project can't even keep a rented shop in some multi-tenant building running, lol
    25AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:18
    Re: #23
    Having your own theater and still having skills that bad is just sad, lol
    27AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:19
    Isn't Up-Front more about flipping real estate than selling "discs" (industry slang for CDs/DVDs)?
    Shouldn't that be right up their alley?
    28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:19
    Why not just turn some empty space at the agency into the Hello! Shop?
    Idle Hello! Project members or OGs (former members) could work the counter.
    32AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:25
    Re: #29
    Hello! Project can't even afford a rented one-room unit in some grubby multi-tenant building.
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:26
    Re: #29
    That theater isn't just expensive to build — the upkeep costs are massive too.
    No way Up-Front could manage that.
    41AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:33
    Re: #34
    How much does the construction and upkeep actually cost?
    It's common knowledge that the small theaters comedy acts usually use don't cost that much — how's this different?
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:29
    When I ran the numbers, the land alone for the Up-Front studio comes out to about 1.5 billion yen — are they really making that much money?

    Roughly 400 m²


    Takanawa land price overview
    Average official land price: ¥3,890,000/m²
    37AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:29
    Idol groups that actually own their own theater are the minority to begin with.
    38AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:30
    Once you start fantasizing they're raking it in off a leased plot, you've lost the thread.
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:31
    They kept insisting Akabanebashi was a property the agency owned outright, but that claim turned out to be fabricated — busted, with sources.
    43AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:34
    Re: #40
    We already know, with sources, that the Takanawa studio is a company-owned building — still want to keep embarrassing yourself?
    45AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:35
    Gotanda TOC (a well-known commercial building complex) would probably work fine, no?
    52AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:42
    Re: #45
    Do they even still run the shuttle bus?
    55AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:43
    ✕ Company-owned building
    ◯ A two-story warehouse
    56AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:44
    Re: #55
    AKB's isn't even warehouse-level, more like a garden shed, lololol

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    “Hello! Shop” has a history of closing stores one after another — including the Akihabara/Suehirocho location — due to soaring rent, shifting its focus to mail order. It was roughly a year ago that the company officially announced it was “planning” a new Tokyo store, and this thread began with fans questioning why there’s been no progress since. The thread split over whether operating company Up-Front’s Takanawa studio counts as a “company-owned building” or a “rental.” Some posters cited a real estate industry website as proof it’s company-owned, while others pointed out the land itself may be leased, arguing that owning the building and holding a leasehold on the land are two separate things. It’s worth noting that the fragmentary information in the thread can’t definitively settle the operating company’s actual real estate situation, and much of this remains speculation. Candidate relocation sites floated included Ikebukuro, Akabane, Gotanda, and Kameari, but these too are just individual posters’ guesses.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Hey, what ever happened to the Hello! Shop Tokyo store???“

  • Mushoku Tensei Criticism Spreads Into Comparisons With Other Anime — 5ch: ‘Because They Didn’t Reincarnate’

    Mushoku Tensei is a popular “Naro-kei” (light-novel-site-origin isekai) anime, but criticism calling its protagonist’s personality “creepy” has repeatedly made waves before. This time, fans pushed back by arguing that “the protagonists of Slime (That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime) and Frieren aren’t much better,” which snowballed into a full-blown comparison war dragging in Smartphone Taro, Haruhi, and even Detective Conan. The thread saw pointed remarks like “it’s a different kind of creepy” and the ironic jab that “the people criticizing it know the show better than anyone,” so it never settled into a simple ranking argument.

    2AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:22
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:26
    It's impressive that Slime is popular with kids too
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:27
    Re: #13
    Kids aren't that bright, so it can't be helped
    14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:26
    If having multiple wives makes him creepy, then the generals in Romance of the Three Kingdoms are creepy too
    67AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:55
    Re: #14
    And yet Japan literally had the Ōoku (the shogun's harem)
    31AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:33
    People told me the story's good even if the protagonist is creepy so I tried pushing through it
    but the story doesn't even have any twists and isn't interesting either lol
    32AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:33
    Re: #31
    You seem like the type who'd like Slime
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:37
    Slime and Frieren are aimed at middle/high schoolers
    36AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:37
    Re: #34
    Guess Gen Z really is dumb
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:40
    What kind of daily life do you have to be living to call a guy like the Mushoku Tensei protagonist "realistic and human"?
    42AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:40
    There's a lot of middle-aged-guy protagonists in recent Naro-kei stuff and it's creepy
    Are the writers just projecting onto them?
    53AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:47
    Re: #42

    43AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:41
    Smartphone Taro is pretty creepy too
    46AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:41
    Re: #43
    I think they're airing Smartphone Taro again right now
    54AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:48
    Why do Mushoku Tensei fans keep trying to make it out to be some highbrow work
    when it's just a lolicon anime
    58AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:50
    Re: #54
    Well, Mushoku Tensei is a masterpiece
    Totally different from Slime, which is just loved by women and kids
    60AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:53
    Re: #58
    You gotta explain that part lol
    Isn't that exactly the creepy part?
    72AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:57
    Re: #58
    That's just, like, your opinion
    59AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:50
    Re: #42
    The kids who used to watch Naro-kei stuff grew up into middle-aged guys, so now there are more works with middle-aged protagonists
    62AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:53
    Re: #59
    Aren't the writers themselves middle-aged guys too?
    It is a web-posting site, after all
    61AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:53
    It's creepy how VTuber-otaku ("V-pigs") act like they're normal people
    69AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:55
    Re: #61
    Is it fine for "pigs" in general to act like normal people?
    65AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:55
    All these reincarnation-type shows are creepy anyway
    but I like Isekai Arigatou so I'll give that one a pass
    71AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:57
    Re: #65
    Isn't that one basically a pseudo-yaoi manga?
    That's on the creepy side too
    66AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:55
    I get getting mad when someone says 'it's boring' with a 'don't talk like a newbie fan!' response
    but I don't get why people get mad over 'it's creepy'
    I mean, even Haruhi had Kyon's whole 'sigh, what a drag' act, and that was creepy too
    74AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:58
    Re: #66
    And besides, Haruhi's creepiness isn't even that kind of creepy
    it's just plain, ordinary creepy that anyone would call creepy
    73AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:58
    I don't get the difference between reincarnation manga and stuff like Demon Slayer or One Piece
    Why does everyone want to discriminate against it?
    75AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:58
    Re: #73
    Because they didn't reincarnate
    80AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:00
    Re: #76
    Even outside Naro-kei
    like Re: #73 said, shonen manga readers want to project onto characters too
    but a lot of reincarnation stories are really just escapism for washed-up salarymen
    76AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:58
    Naro-kei fans project themselves onto the protagonist
    so they lose it whenever the protagonist fails or gets criticized
    77AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:59
    Conan got poisoned and turned into basically a different person, so that's kind of a reincarnation too in a way
    83AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:01
    Re: #77
    If an average bottom-tier-college student went back to being an elementary schooler and started dominating everyone, that'd be Naro-kei
    81AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:00
    What always cracks me up in threads like this is how the people criticizing it know the show in insane detail
    like, don't they actually love it?
    89AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:03
    Re: #81
    Just because someone passionately rants about how bad the ramen was at some ramen shop
    doesn't mean they liked that ramen
    it's still bad either way
    91AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:04
    Re: #81
    Are they really that knowledgeable though
    There's a pretty common pattern of people fixating on fictional settings without actually knowing much
    105AnonymousOct 4, 2026 11:11
    Re: #97
    Couldn't tell you about that
    but based on this presentation, it's about average
    Didn't make the cut this time, try again next round

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Mushoku Tensei is a flagship title of the “Naro-kei” genre (anime adapted from novels first posted on web novel sites), and criticism of its protagonist’s personality has repeatedly flared up ever since it first aired. What split opinion in this thread was the standard for “creepiness” — some argued the yardstick differs depending on a show’s age bracket or target audience, while others countered that “it’s just a different flavor of creepy, but the core problem is the same,” and the two sides never quite connected. One part readers may misread is the exchange (posts 81–91) about “the people criticizing it being the most knowledgeable about it” — that’s just an ironic jab traded back and forth in the argument, not an actual verified claim about who knows more. Meanwhile, lines of reasoning like “it’s different because they didn’t reincarnate” or “background characters have personalities too” are a recurring, well-worn argument on 5ch for drawing the line between Naro-kei and other genres.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Mushoku Tensei fans: “Other anime protagonists are creepier!” ← Sparks fly to other anime lol“.

  • Kobe’s ¥1,100-a-Night Flophouse: 5ch Says ‘I’d Need ¥20,000 Just to Consider It’

    A photo of a room at the “Sanwa Hotel” in Shinkaichi, Hyogo Ward, Kobe City, Hyogo Prefecture, sparked a thread on 5ch. The bare-bones lodging house offers a room of roughly one tatami mat in size, furnished with nothing but a futon and a small TV stand, starting from just ¥1,100 a night. The thread saw a flurry of reactions weighing cheapness against livability — mentions that Nishinari’s flophouses start from ¥500, price comparisons with internet cafés, and worries about bugs and smells. Some users even wondered aloud whether the photo was AI-generated, splitting opinion.

    1AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:12
    Cheap
    2AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:13
    Sounds like Nishinari, but it's actually Shinkaichi
    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:15
    Laying out cardboard in a park would be more hygienic lol
    5AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:17
    Sanwa Hotel, 5-2-11 Shinkaichi, Hyogo Ward, Kobe City, Hyogo Prefecture
    6AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:18
    It's known as an ultra-cheap doya (a flophouse-style lodging house) with rooms of about one tatami mat, furnished with just a futon and a small TV stand, starting from roughly ¥1,100 a night
    11AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:20
    Surely this has to be AI-generated?
    At the very least they'd change the pillowcase
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:20
    Brutal
    That's a 'pay me ¥20,000 and I'll consider it' level of rough
    And of course you'd be sleeping standing up
    15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:22
    Sleeping at a karaoke box or manga café sounds better
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:22
    The place I stayed at in Kobe looked just like this, for ¥1,800
    The guy at the front desk was out cold and wouldn't wake up for ages
    Obviously there's no bath, so you've got no choice but to go to a nearby public bathhouse
    You've got to keep your wallet in your pants pocket at all times, or it might get stolen
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:24
    It's a CRT TV, but
    I wonder if there are even any channels it can pick up
    23AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:26
    Who even needs a TV there lol
    28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:30
    Re: #23
    Disposal costs money, so they probably just left it sitting there
    24AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:26
    Ijuin (Hikaru Ijuin, a well-known Japanese radio host/comedian) often stays at ¥2,000-ish places like this when he goes to Okinawa, right?
    25AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:27
    Even for a cheap lodging house, you rarely see a futon this stained
    27AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:29
    I've heard Nishinari's flophouses go for ¥500 a night
    More like everyone crashing together in one big shared room
    The only comfort is that it keeps the rain and wind off you
    29AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:31
    Better to just park a car in a lot and sleep in it
    Probably around ¥1,000
    30AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:31
    If it's just to keep the rain and wind off, you don't even need a futon
    Bring your own sleeping bag and you could manage
    31AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:33
    It says 2024 on that Jump magazine
    So is this photo actually two years old
    Or did they just leave an old magazine lying around
    43AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:47
    Re: #31
    That's the February 2024 issue of Monthly Magazine
    and issue 6 of Weekly Shonen Champion
    59AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:08
    Re: #31
    So that also rules out this being a photo from 15+ years ago, back when TVs were still analog
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:36
    Maybe you could manage if you wrapped yourself in a picnic sheet. Though the smell sounds brutal too
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:37
    Isn't this the kind of place where you can rent a room for like ¥30,000 a month?
    39AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:40
    Re: #35
    If you're paying that much, there are plenty of better places out there
    37AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:38
    Back in the day there was a dirt-cheap 3-tatami-mat room near Kyoto Station lol lol lol lol lol
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:43
    It's apparently not really taken by casual guests
    Mostly elderly people with nowhere else to go end up living there long-term
    42AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:46
    A ¥2,000-something lodging house in Nishinari sounds really decent by comparison now
    Even I, who can sleep on cardboard on the street, might not be able to handle this
    45AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:50
    Your own bed probably looks pretty much the same, doesn't it
    47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:53
    Re: #45
    Those stains aren't even ones you made yourself though (referring to the photo in Re: #1)
    46AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:52
    Filthy as hell
    The futon and pillow look like they haven't been washed in years lol
    50AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:58
    Cigarette smoke and who-knows-what-else soaked into everything — that's gotta be rough

    Sleeping under the night sky honestly sounds way more comfortable
    52AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:59
    The copy-paste troll (a notorious poster known for spamming the same text across threads) showing up here…
    Does that mean they've actually stayed at this hotel?
    53AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:00
    The copy-paste troll has been staying here for 10 years
    56AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:05
    I've stayed at an old-school doya in Minamisenju maybe twice, but the price is about the same as a locked private booth at Kaikatsu Club (a 24-hour internet café chain), so there's no real upside
    57AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:05
    According to reviews from people who've actually stayed there, the smell is apparently the worst part
    58AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:07
    At 3am this morning
    got bitten by mites that had gotten behind my sleep-tracking watch and couldn't get deep sleep
    Just one bite is enough to snap you out of a sleeping pill's effects
    60AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:10
    If it's just to rest your body, an internet café would probably do just fine, but these days you need to show ID there, so this place is probably used by people who can't use those
    61AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:12
    I've never stayed at an internet café — how much is it for a night?
    63AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:13
    Probably a godsend of a lodging for fugitives on the run
    65AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:14
    Re: #63
    There was a wanted poster put up there

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Simple lodging houses (commonly called “doya”) are a style of accommodation concentrated in old laborer districts like Shinkaichi and Nishinari, originally developed as cheap lodging for day laborers. Today they also serve as a safety net for low-income people and those without stable housing, and the thread’s observation that “internet cafés now require ID, so people who can’t use those end up here” reflects that background. Within the thread there was also discussion scrutinizing the photo’s authenticity and timing (based on the magazine issue dates, the TV model, etc.), but the only verifiable details are the Sanwa Hotel address and the ¥1,100 price given by the original poster — whether it’s actually “the cheapest hotel in Japan,” as the thread title claims, was never confirmed. Reactions largely centered on weighing the rock-bottom price against concerns over hygiene and safety, with differing views on just how viable an option a place like this really is.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hallyu/Hello! Project board) thread “This is a room at the cheapest hotel in Japan, where you can stay for ¥1,000 a night.”

  • Kochikame’s 40-Year Run, Zero Missed Deadlines: Osamu Akimoto’s Streak Stuns 5ch

    A thread on 5ch picked up on the fact that Osamu Akimoto, creator of “Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Koen-mae Hashutsujo” (Kochikame), never once missed a deadline during its 40-year run in Weekly Shonen Jump. Commenters were struck anew by the fact that he didn’t even take a break when he was sick, and the discussion expanded into comparisons with the hiatus histories of other long-running manga artists like Akira Toriyama, Rumiko Takahashi, and the creator of Urayasu Tekkin Family. The thread title’s “Ko Akimoto” was a pun mashing up the lyricist’s name with the mangaka’s actual name (Osamu Akimoto), and the conversation also touched on the differing production paces of monthly versus weekly magazines.

    9AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:26
    Toriyama never missed one either, from Dr. Slump all the way through the end of Dragon Ball.
    Oda, take notes.
    10AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:27
    Re: #9
    Yeah, he worked himself into the ground.
    15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:28
    Re: #12
    Wait… if it were some manga that wrapped up quick I'd get it, but this ran for an insanely long time. For real?
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:30
    Re: #15
    For real, not one break in 40 years. Not even for illness.
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:30
    Re: #15
    And he was running irregular side-story chapters on top of it, plus serializing Mister Chris at the same time. Finishing a chapter in 5 days is genuinely insane.
    16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:30
    I hated the phase where he was clearly out of ideas and kept milking the swim-trunks detective gag.
    20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:30
    Re: #16
    I used to hate the dud episodes too, but now I figure that's unavoidable for a weekly serial.
    21AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:31
    25AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:33
    Re: #21
    I love these social-satire episodes. ("suko" is forum slang derived from "suki"/like, roughly "love this")
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:41
    Re: #21
    Wasn't it Takao Saito or Hiroshi Motomiya who basically leaves everything to assistants these days and only draws the eyes himself?
    96AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:38
    Re: #21
    The pupils really do change the whole impression of a character, so it's actually hard for an amateur to pull off.
    23AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    Dragon Ball had slightly fewer pages, sure, but Toriyama also never missed a single issue while working with just one assistant and juggling other jobs.
    No wonder he came to hate serializing it.
    28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:36
    Re: #23
    Love that he got so fed up he turned his editor Kazuhiko Torishima into the villain in Dr. Slump.
    29AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:36
    Normally coming up with the story is the hard part.
    Kochikame's stories were, well… yeah, about that.
    33AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:38
    Re: #29
    Drawing out 202 volumes' worth of material is genius-level stuff, no question.
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:41
    The comedy duo Bakusho Mondai once said something like,
    "Putting out one new gag to the world almost every single week for 40 years would drive you insane — gag manga usually just fizzles out into a mess."
    "That's probably why weekly gag manga tend to be short-lived."
    And yeah, thinking about it, Kochikame really is the only weekly manga that managed to stay in the legendary-gag-series bracket for that long.

    Even Usuta Kyosuke runs out of steam after 6-7 volumes.
    41AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:44
    Re: #35
    Other long-running gag manga are basically just Mario-kun, Fushigi Pokemon Pipii, and Dangerous Jiisan.
    Though there's also the SpongeBob pattern, where the creator dies and only the anime keeps going.
    43AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:47
    Re: #41
    Unlike Kochikame those are monthlies, but they're still three great series.
    92AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:30
    Re: #41
    Monthlies give you more time, and CoroCoro's readership turns over regularly, so you can get away with coasting on poop-and-wiener jokes.
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:44
    Re: #34
    Dunno much about it, but having been an assistant for artists like that adds some prestige, so maybe it's unavoidable?
    79AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:18
    Re: #40
    Those guys are full-time assistants, that's their job.
    44AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:47
    Guys like Kazuhisa Soyama, and — not manga exactly but — Yutaka Hara, seem like people who stepped right out of a gag manga themselves.
    You probably can't write this stuff for a lifetime unless your whole way of living is a gag manga.
    56AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:51
    Re: #44
    I think Yutaka Hara is a genius.
    There's no other novel series that sells like the Kaiketsu Zorori books.
    46AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:48
    Ko Akimoto is a lyricist and producer —
    isn't anyone going to point out that Kochikame's actual author is Osamu Akimoto?
    51AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:49
    Re: #46
    True that.
    And it's wild it took until post #46 for someone to finally point it out.
    52AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:49
    Takahashi Rumiko doesn't miss deadlines either, right?
    The only exception was when she had appendicitis, I think?
    60AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:52
    Re: #52
    For Rumiko Takahashi's serialized works (like "MAO"), breaks mainly take the form of regular hiatuses roughly once or twice a month, used to adjust the pace of weekly serialization.
    Trends and reasons behind the hiatuses:
    • Age and pace management: now in her late 60s, she still keeps up a weekly serialization, and takes a break roughly once a month or every few weeks to manage her health and her production schedule.
    53AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:49
    I really hate this face.
    72AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:06
    Re: #53
    Never seen this one.
    55AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:50
    Urayasu Tekkin Family also has almost no hiatuses in 30 years (not zero, but close).
    58AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:51
    Re: #55
    I recall its very first hiatus actually making the news.
    That just shows how rarely it ever took a break.
    57AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:51
    I heard Kochikame had a pretty big stockpile of finished chapters banked up.
    63AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:53
    Re: #57
    Being able to build up a stockpile while still doing a weekly serialization is just absurd.
    64AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:58
    With this many standalone episodes over such a long run, plus a stockpile on top, you'd think they'd accidentally reprint a story that already ran, right?
    65AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:59
    Re: #64
    Nope.
    Never happened, not once.
    66AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:59
    Re: #64
    It's not Doraemon.
    As long as the publisher isn't completely incompetent, they'd notice.
    67AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:01
    Re: #64
    With Cromartie High School, Magazine actually messed up the running order once
    (like running chapter 29 the week after chapter 30).
    The author reportedly snapped, "If you did this with Hajime no Ippo you'd be fired,"
    and the editor shot back, "We wouldn't make a mistake like that with Ippo" — apparently they really got into it.
    76AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:17
    How on earth did he keep gathering material like that every single time?
    78AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:18
    Re: #76
    Probably had a whole team dedicated to gathering material.
    81AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:19
    Re: #76
    I've read that he read newspapers cover to cover and actively clipped little tidbits from the small side columns.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Kochikame (by Osamu Akimoto) is said to have never missed a single weekly issue of Weekly Shonen Jump across its entire 40-year run from 1976 to 2016 — including times when the author was sick. The thread title’s “Ko Akimoto” is a joke spelling that plays on the sound of lyricist Ko Akimoto’s name against the actual author’s name, Osamu Akimoto; Ko Akimoto never actually drew Kochikame. Opinions split over whether to view this staying power as sheer talent or just grueling overwork, and the conversation expanded into comparisons with the hiatus records of Akira Toriyama, Rumiko Takahashi, and the creator of Urayasu Tekkin Family. Some pointed out that monthly magazines can recycle the same gags because their readership turns over, a point that highlights just how demanding weekly serialization specifically is — something not fully conveyed by the thread alone.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Shocking] The Number of Times Ko Akimoto Missed a Deadline While Serializing Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Koen-mae Hashutsujo in Weekly Shonen Jump lol“.

  • Akiko Matsumoto Reveals Horrific Constipation Battle: ‘4kg of Poop Constantly Stuck in My Gut’

    TV personality Akiko Matsumoto appeared on comedian Sayaka Aoki’s YouTube channel and opened up about her years-long struggle with constipation. She revealed that she constantly carried around 4kg of stool in her intestines, that her symptoms eventually got so severe she needed surgery, and that she is now unable to pass stool on her own. The conversation, which also touched on her broken leg this past April, was part of a broader chat with Aoki about health and the body. On 5ch, the thread drew a flood of personal anecdotes about the causes and remedies for constipation, with heated debate over diet, lack of exercise, and laxative use.

    Akiko Matsumoto Confesses Her ‘Horrific History of Intestinal Stool Buildup’: ‘It Got So Bad I Needed Surgery’ / ‘My Body Can No Longer Pass Stool on Its Own’

    TV personality Akiko Matsumoto (60) made a guest appearance on an episode of Sayaka Aoki’s YouTube channel ‘Sayaka Aoki’s Where Are You Looking!? Channel,’ posted by the 4th. She opened up about her years of battling constipation and how she eventually improved it.

    In the video, Matsumoto talked with Aoki about health and the body, including her experience breaking her leg this past April.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:19
    Can't believe how bad her breath must have smelled.
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:25
    Re: #3
    Nah, it actually tracks with how she looks, if anything.
    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:19
    That's not 'manko' (slang for pussy), that's 'unko' (poop) — isn't it (rhyming pun on the two words).
    6AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:20
    Whenever I get backed up, I make coffee and have it alongside a 400g tub of unsweetened yogurt with cut fruit mixed in.

    That usually gets me needing to go within about an hour.
    7AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:21
    If it's always sitting at a steady 4kg, doesn't that mean whatever she eats is still coming out the other end?
    15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:26
    Re: #7
    A queue (FIFO: first in, first out), huh?
    That's some real IT-engineer logic lol

    Re: #1 basically means she's got a 4kg buffer in her gut (a place that temporarily stores poop).
    9AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:21
    How did she land such a good-looking husband?
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:24
    Re: #9
    Result of Matsumoto relentlessly chasing him down.
    19AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:27
    Re: #9
    Apparently her husband still doesn't fully get her even now, and part of why they're still together is his curiosity about 'what even is this woman.'
    10AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:23
    I take laxatives twice a week to force things out.
    Do the people who keep whining about being constipated just not take laxatives?
    Take one and it comes right out, your stomach's empty.
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:27
    Re: #10
    If you take them habitually, they gradually stop working as well as before.
    A lot of people end up upping their dose because of that —
    taking 5 pills when normally even one would do the job.
    It's hard on your stomach.
    24AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:28
    Re: #10
    Magnesium oxide?
    Daichi no Kanpo Benpiyaku (formerly Takeda Kanpo Benpiyaku, a Japanese herbal laxative)?
    Or the little pink Colac pills?
    11AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:24
    If you don't eat vegetables,
    your constipation clears up.

    I barely eat any,
    so I never get constipated.
    50AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:36
    Re: #11
    Nah, just eat a reasonable amount.
    16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:26
    I poop like 3 times a day.
    Eat some agar jelly and natto.
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:26
    The day after I eat konjac, I have the best bowel movement.
    21AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:28
    I can't help but think food is the cause.
    Her diet must have been seriously bad.
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:29
    Food plays a part, but I feel like whether you can turn it into a habit matters more.
    I started going right after waking up every morning, and it gradually became routine — cured my constipation.
    27AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:29
    So you're saying just being conscious of stuff you normally do on autopilot can actually fix it?!
    28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:29
    In Kampo (traditional Chinese herbal medicine), eating a few morning glory seeds is supposedly good for it.
    Apparently it's so potent that getting the dose wrong gives you terrible diarrhea.
    33AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:31
    Re: #19
    They're such 180-degree opposites that it's the strongest kind of compatibility — narcissists tend to marry people just like themselves, which is exactly why those relationships never quite work.
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    It's the food.
    If it's just plain old constipation, there's no other explanation.
    37AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    Women have weaker core muscles, so they're more prone to constipation, right?
    47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:35
    I wish people would take a page from me — one wipe every time and nothing even gets on the toilet paper. Pure energy efficiency.
    69AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:40
    Re: #47
    That's like a wild animal, kind of jealous honestly.
    53AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:37
    I've got a similar constitution, but after a month of eating yogurt daily,
    I ended up going even less.
    Even on days I walked a fair amount, nothing.
    Might be a side effect of meds I take for a chronic condition, but even now my stomach stays pretty bloated.
    71AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:40
    Re: #53
    Sounds like your loose, diarrhea-ish stool firmed up into hard little rocks that are tough to pass, maybe?
    89AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:47
    Re: #53
    Lactic acid bacteria matter, but
    you might just be short on fiber.
    Why not try oatmeal?
    And ab workouts —
    twisting your torso might help too.
    82AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:43
    I'm constipated for about 5 days,
    then I go, and a few hours later diarrhea hits,
    then I'm constipated again.
    I eat fermented foods, eat my vegetables,
    and exercise too.

    What am I supposed to do about this?
    88AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:46
    Re: #82
    Stress.
    Re: #85
    Go see a doctor.
    91AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:47
    Re: #82
    Water, and
    for me, taking oligosaccharides (food for your gut's good bacteria) worked better than lactic acid bacteria did.
    107AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:52
    Re: #82
    Same here —
    goes almost a week, ending with loose stool at the end.
    I manage it with oatmeal, milk, and cabbage,
    but if I'm not careful my stomach gets irritated, and the gas causes bloating too.
    85AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:45
    It's rough — I have diarrhea-like poops like 10 times a day, and 10 minutes after eating I already need to go again. Feels like my digestion's broken and I'm not absorbing nutrients even when I eat.
    112AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:53
    Re: #85
    Are you taking Ebios tablets? (a Japanese brewer's-yeast digestive supplement)

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    When constipation becomes chronic, it’s known to develop into a condition called ‘retained stool’ (shukuben), where waste sits lodged in the intestines for extended periods — in severe cases, medication or medical procedures become essential just to have a bowel movement. In the thread, people who regularly rely on laxatives pointed out that ‘with habitual use, they stop working as well and you end up needing bigger doses,’ a phenomenon also recognized in medicine as laxative tolerance, which overlaps with Matsumoto’s confession that she can no longer pass stool on her own. At the same time, opinions in the thread split between those blaming diet and those pointing to lack of exercise, weak muscles, or stress, with no clear consensus reached. Readers should note that the 4kg figure is simply Matsumoto’s own self-reported account, not a medically measured value. It’s generally known that when stool keeps building up in the intestines over a long period, cases can arise where manual disimpaction or surgery ultimately becomes necessary — but exactly what kind of surgery Matsumoto underwent isn’t made clear from her remarks in the video.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread ‘[Entertainment] Akiko Matsumoto Confesses Her ‘Horrific History of Intestinal Stool Buildup’: ‘It Got So Bad I Needed Surgery’ / ‘My Body Can No Longer Pass Stool on Its Own’ — 4kg of Stool Constantly Accumulated in Her Intestines.’

  • Did America Ever Have a World-Class Rock Band? 5ch Debates: ‘It’s Like Comparing Everyone to Shohei Ohtani’

    A provocative thread title — “UK: ‘The Beatles! The Stones! Zeppelin! Zeppelin! Deep Purple!’ America: ‘Uh… um…’” — sparked a US-vs-UK rock debate in 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo (Live Commentary) discussion group. Names like Bon Jovi, Metallica, and the Eagles got floated, only to be shot down over their Billboard track records or musical style. The talk expanded to cover the roots of American music — blues, country, and 1950s rock pioneers like Chuck Berry — with the central question becoming “Did America really ever have anyone on the Beatles’ level?” Things eventually veered off course near the end into a tangent about global IP revenue rankings.

    1AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:17
    America acts all high and mighty now, but wasn't it basically a musical backwater until Michael Jackson came along? 🤔
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:24
    For that era, the UK feels like the rock scene while America feels more like the soul and pop scene.
    America had rock in the '50s too, but from the '60s on it doesn't really give off a 'rock' vibe.
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:25
    Re: #12
    What's the deal with country and folk, though?
    15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:26
    Hold on, the Stones are Japanese, lol
    16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:27
    Re: #15
    Can Americans and Brits even read that well, though?
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:27
    Re: #13
    Oh right, country and folk were around back then too — I don't really know much about those genres, though.
    33AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:39
    Re: #17
    It always ends up turning into some whole Vietnam War discussion…
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:29
    The Ramones: "Fair enough."
    20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:30
    Re: #18
    Punk actually started from the Ramones and Television, you know — two bands with totally different sounds.
    22AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:32
    So is Bon Jovi the most globally famous American band, huh?
    28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:36
    Re: #22
    Cheesy pop-ballad rock doesn't count (歌謡ロック, a Japanese term for schmaltzy, hit-single-style arena rock).
    23AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:32
    Isn't country basically just farmer music?
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:34
    Re: #23
    It's basically Japan's version of enka (traditional Japanese ballads).
    31AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:38
    The Eagles
    The Beach Boys
    37AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:41
    Re: #31
    The Beach Boys never actually hit #1 on Billboard.
    48AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:49
    Re: #37
    What a fake fan, lol
    36AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:39
    America's #1 rock band is Metallica, no arguments accepted.
    91AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:36
    Re: #36
    Nope, the bullying within the band is too gross to overlook.
    39AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:43
    Frank Zappa — a genius the times never quite caught up to.
    59AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:59
    Re: #39
    That awful Japanese localized title, "Hae Hae Kakaka Zappappa," lol
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:43
    Top 15 Global IP Rankings

    #1 Pokémon (Japan) — Total revenue: $92.1 billion (approx. ¥13.5 trillion)

    #2 Hello Kitty (Japan) — Total revenue: $80 billion (approx. ¥11.8 trillion)

    #5 Star Wars (USA) — Total revenue: $65.6 billion (approx. ¥9.7 trillion)

    #6 Anpanman (Japan) — Total revenue: $60.3 billion (approx. ¥8.9 trillion)

    #8 Super Mario (Japan) — Total revenue: $36.1 billion (approx. ¥5.3 trillion)

    #9 Shonen Jump (Japan) — Total revenue: $34.1 billion (approx. ¥5.02 trillion)

    #10 Harry Potter (UK) — Total revenue: $30.9 billion (approx. ¥4.6 trillion)

    #12 Spider-Man (USA) — Total revenue: $27.1 billion (approx. ¥4.007 trillion)

    #13 Gundam (Japan) — Total revenue: $26.5 billion (approx. ¥3.9 trillion)

    #14 Batman (USA) — Total revenue: $26.4 billion (approx. ¥3.9 trillion)

    #15 Dragon Ball (Japan) — Total revenue: $24 billion (approx. ¥3.5 trillion)
    43AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:45
    Re: #40
    Did 'Gyudon' (lit. 'beef bowl,' apparently a poster's nickname) only know anime theme songs and still want to join the conversation?
    49AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:50
    I mean, a lot of us 'g-boys' (likely slang for guys of this generation) probably grew up listening to Nirvana, Foo Fighters, Green Day, Linkin Park, The Offspring, Zebrahead, Smashing Pumpkins, Manson, Limp Bizkit, My Chemical Romance, and the like.
    If I had to pick one, I'd choose America over the UK.
    53AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:55
    Re: #49
    More like The Carpenters, surely…
    55AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:56
    Re: #49
    That's kid stuff, lol
    81AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:22
    Re: #49
    Yeah, that's the lineup you don't keep listening to for long.
    63AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:03
    Come to think of it, nobody's even mentioned the blues yet.
    What even is the blues?
    66AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:07
    Re: #63
    Speaking of blues, there's Bruce Springsteen.
    68AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:08
    Re: #63
    It's the guitar music that both jazz and rock grew out of — known for its use of triplets.
    69AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:10
    Not the guys who popped up in the '80s — before that.
    Was there anyone in the '60s or '70s who was on the Beatles' level?
    72AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:13
    Re: #69
    Why's the Beatles the benchmark anyway?

    Isn't that like judging every baseball player against MLB's Shohei Ohtani?
    75AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:15
    Re: #72
    It's not just about the Beatles.
    The question is whether America had musicians with the kind of worldwide influence the thread title's talking about.
    78AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:17
    Re: #75
    Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly were American musicians, and literally everyone you listed in post 1 was influenced by those two.
    80AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:21
    Re: #75
    'Blues legend B.B. King dies at 89'

    Dunno much about him, but I googled it and found this guy.
    73AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:15
    He didn't live long either — kind of like Ohtani, huh.
    84AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:24
    Re: #73
    Don't go killing off Ohtani on your own, lol
    100AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:45
    The reality that France, Europe's other powerhouse alongside the UK, hasn't produced a single world-famous band.
    101AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:46
    Re: #100
    Magma, Gong…
    102AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:46
    Re: #100
    The French are so attached to singing in French that I doubt they could ever sell worldwide.
    110AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:57
    First of all, it's crazy that David Bowie isn't even mentioned in the thread title 😡
    112AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:59
    Re: #110
    Bowie came along later chronologically, and his era overlaps with when American music started getting more aggressive/dominant, so he just doesn't leave as strong an impression.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    In response to the provocative thread title “The UK churned out world-famous rock bands, but what about America?”, replies pointed out that this isn’t a simple comparison — it’s more a mismatch of eras and genres. The gist: in the ’60s and ’70s, the UK led the rock scene with the Beatles and the Stones, while America at the same time leaned more toward soul, country, and folk, giving it a less distinctly “rock” face. It was also noted that 1950s American rock pioneers like Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly directly influenced the later British bands, so the story isn’t simply “America had nobody.” The late tangent into global IP revenue rankings is a side conversation that drifts from the main topic — the figures are claims made within the 5ch thread and haven’t been independently verified. A point readers might easily misread: the thread isn’t concluding that “America lacks talent,” but rather discussing a mismatch in genre timing.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “UK: ‘The Beatles! The Stones! Zeppelin! Deep Purple!’ America: ‘Uh…’ ← this one.”

  • 2026 Prefecture Appeal Rankings Drop — 5ch: “This Is Just a Tourism Ranking”

    The Brand Research Institute’s annual “Prefectural Appeal Rankings” for 2026 have been released, sparking a wave of reactions in a thread on 5ch’s News Express+ board. The discussion kicked off with someone pointing out that the ranking measures appeal as a tourist destination, not whether people actually want to live there. Some pushed back, noting that Hokkaido and Okinawa draw plenty of transplants in addition to tourists, while residents and natives of lower-ranked prefectures like Ibaraki, Saga, and Chiba jumped in to defend their hometowns’ charms. The thread also saw disagreements over comparisons between neighboring prefectures, such as Kanagawa vs. Saitama and Osaka vs. Kyoto.

    10/3 (Sat) 21:54

    Diamond Online

    Every year, the hugely popular “Prefectural Appeal Rankings” article draws major attention. Let’s take a look at the latest 2026 version. Which appealing prefectures climbed the rankings this year? (Brand Research Institute, freelance writer Harumi Nishijima, Diamond Life editorial team)

    Source: topics.smt.docomo.ne.jp / Read the original article here

    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:27
    This is just a tourism ranking, right?
    Would you actually move to Hokkaido, Kyoto, or Okinawa?
    Nah, didn't think so.
    45AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:58
    Re: #4
    A guy who got transferred to Sapporo hated the idea before he went, but once he got there he said he wants to live there forever lol
    128AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:33
    Re: #4
    Hokkaido and Okinawa are full of people who moved there, you know?
    When I was stationed in Okinawa for work, apparently half the kids in my local friend's child's elementary school class were kids of mainlanders who'd relocated there or transferred for work.
    5AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:28
    If you're gonna land around 40th anyway, being dead last actually boosts your name recognition more.
    66AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:06
    Re: #5
    My home Ibaraki has the sea, mountains, lakes, rivers, waterfalls, parks, and plenty of local specialties.
    Our name recognition went up too, and we finally escaped our perpetual last-place spot.
    71AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:07
    Re: #66
    It's a prefecture that only benefits from being near Tokyo anyway.
    Stick Ibaraki between Tottori and Shimane and nobody would even notice.
    78AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:08
    Re: #66
    Hitachinaka Seaside Park is amazing.
    Though it's way too crowded during nemophila (baby blue eyes flower) season.
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:47
    Is it really ranked below places with nothing going on, like Kagawa or Tottori?
    32AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:49
    Re: #26
    Kagawa isn't just tourist spots — it has all the functions of a regional hub city too.
    57AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:02
    Re: #26
    It has so little presence that people don't have any impression of it at all — good or bad.
    31AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:49
    FY2025 total annual overnight guests (people)


    Kanto 193,906,230
    Kansai 120,737,210
    Kyushu 62,575,070
    Tokai 62,493,310
    Hokkaido 45,434,840
    Koshinetsu 38,732,940
    Tohoku 38,453,050
    Okinawa 32,288,990
    Chugoku 26,988,290
    Hokuriku 17,269,550
    Shikoku 14,597,440
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:51
    Kanagawa and Saitama aren't actually that different, though.
    The gap in their rankings is way too extreme.
    44AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:55
    Re: #35
    They're totally different lol
    As a tourist destination, Kanagawa has Kamakura, Hakone, Shonan, Yokohama's Minato Mirai, Chinatown, and Motomachi, and Route 1 runs through it — it's part of the center of Japan.

    Saitama is where the edge of Japan's center starts to fall off.
    72AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:07
    Re: #44
    Also, if we're talking about actually living there, it's overwhelmingly Saitama.
    Yokohama is nothing but hills, way too densely packed, taxes are high, and the roads and trains are jam-packed.
    Kanagawa overall is cramped with no breathing room, and the cost-performance is terrible.
    86AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:10
    Re: #72
    Saitama really deserves to be called a "forbidden realm" (makyo — an online joke/insult often aimed at Saitama).
    88AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:13
    Re: #72
    I agree that Kanagawa has no breathing room and bad cost-performance.
    39AnonymousOct 4, 2026 07:52
    True, like if you go to Osaka for fun, you might think about swinging by Kyoto or Kobe too.
    But if you go to Tokyo, you don't think about also stopping by Saitama or Ibaraki.
    That's probably what it comes down to.
    53AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:01
    Re: #39
    No wonder the Hanshin Tigers win pennants lol (joke about Kansai regional pride/solidarity)
    87AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:12
    Re: #39
    That's just because those places are clinging to Tokyo.
    114AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:26
    Re: #39
    That just means Osaka itself has no appeal 🤣

    Conversely, if you go to Kyoto, you wouldn't think of extending the trip to Osaka.
    56AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:02
    Re: #44
    Kamakura lol, Hakone lol, Shonan lol
    They're all kind of small-scale, with this cheap, miniature feel to them.
    Aren't they basically the same as Kawagoe, Nagatoro, and Chichibu? The only difference is whether it's the sea or the mountains.
    65AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:05
    Re: #56
    O-okay…
    "Naga…" how do you even read that kanji?
    67AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:06
    Re: #56
    You're probably a Saitama resident, but I think you should work on getting a bit more of an objective viewpoint.
    97AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:17
    Tohoku appeal rankings, finalized version

    Miyagi (11th)
    Aomori (18th)
    Niigata (22nd)
    Akita (23rd)
    Fukushima (28th)
    Iwate (31st)
    Yamagata (33rd)

    Toooohokuuuuuu ><b (a jokey, dialect-flavored way of shouting "Tohoku")

    I used to think my hometown and everyone in it were absolute garbage,
    but it did so much better than expected that I'm tearing up lol
    103AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:22
    Re: #97
    Those places make me want to visit, but somewhere like Ibaraki, I feel like I'd never set foot in it my whole life.
    105AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:22
    Re: #97
    So Niigata really is part of Tohoku after all, huh.
    133AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:35
    Re: #97
    Those places have just the right amount of rural charm, which makes them appealing as travel destinations.
    124AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:31
    What's so bad about Saga, exactly?
    They grow rice and vegetables, there's seafood from the Ariake Sea, Saga beef, and even a soccer club (J2, but still).
    If you want to go out, Hakata is only 30 minutes away, there's an outlet mall, and natural disasters are rare.
    Land and rent both seem cheap — I've been thinking about retiring to Saga and getting into pottery appreciation.
    125AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:32
    Re: #124
    Won't opinions be split over Egashira? (Egashira 2:50, a comedian famous for being from Saga)
    138AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:38
    Re: #124
    Same as Gifu — the economy isn't exactly huge, so poor access to major metro areas is fatal.
    Being far from everywhere in every direction is a dealbreaker.
    Living somewhere doesn't mean you never go anywhere else.
    147AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:42
    What's Tochigi's appeal, anyway?
    156AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:44
    Re: #147
    Did you even read my post?
    I specifically wrote about the Tohoku Expressway and the Tohoku Shinkansen.
    It's the only one in North Kanto + Saitama ranked in the 30s — gotta thank Tohoku for that.
    159AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:46
    Re: #147
    U-jiro Kouji has a high likability rating, don't they (a comedy duo famous for their thick Tochigi-dialect act)
    169AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:55
    Re: #1
    Honestly, if we rank Kanto tourist spots without any favoritism, it's:

    ↓① Tokyo (goes without saying, #1 in Japan)
    ↓② Kanagawa (Hakone, Kamakura, Chinatown)
    ↓③ Gunma (Japan's #1 hot spring cluster)
    ↓④ Tochigi (Toshogu Shrine, Nikko)
    ↓⑤ Saitama (Chichibu)
    ↓⑥ Ibaraki (the joke entry)
    The true last place: ⑦ Chiba (a totally half-hearted, middleman prefecture)

    That's how it is.
    207AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:17
    Re: #169
    Worshipping Tokyo while treating Chiba as the enemy — ah-ha, I bet you're from Saitama.
    219AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:20
    It really depends on what you count as "appeal."
    Speaking as a country bumpkin myself,

    there's no way Saitama, Ibaraki, or Gunma should be ranked this low.
    I'm genuinely jealous of places where you can get to Tokyo right from your hometown.

    On the other hand, I honestly have no idea what's so great about Okinawa.

    Hokkaido is the best as a tourist destination though.
    226AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:25
    Re: #219

    I actually wanted to work at a music school in Okinawa, but…
    unfortunately, it required a driver's license. Shame.
    230AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:27
    Re: #219
    Okinawa has the mildest swings between hot and cold.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The Prefectural Appeal Rankings is a survey by the Brand Research Institute asking ordinary consumers about their image of each prefecture — it measures “recognition and favorability,” which is separate from actual resident numbers or settlement rates. This mismatch is the backdrop behind the pushback from Ibaraki and Saga residents and natives in the thread. Prefectures with solid everyday infrastructure but few tourist attractions tend to score low, while prefectures with famous tourist spots tend to rank high — a structural quirk that has long been pointed out about this ranking. Also, as one comment about “escaping perpetual last place” shows, the rankings shift year to year and are easily swayed by image strategy and media exposure. What readers can easily get wrong is assuming this ranking directly reflects “livability” or “economic strength” — and most of the pushback in the thread stems from that very misunderstanding.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Survey] 2026 Prefecture Appeal Rankings — So Who’s Unfortunately in Last Place This Time…?.”

  • Is Initial D Just Low-Class Trash? 5ch: ‘Those Cars Were Dirt Cheap Back Then’

    A thread titled “Isn’t Initial D kind of lame with how low-class it feels?” went up in 5ch’s Nanimo Jikkyo G (anything-goes live-commentary board), and replies piled up around the prices of the cars the series’ street racers drive and how much their mods would’ve cost. The first half of the thread started from the question “where’s the money for modding a car even coming from?” before turning into a back-and-forth of specific numbers about what the used car market actually looked like around 2000, when the series began serialization. Posters swapped personal stories about buying the pricey cars from the show — the 34 GT-R, the FD, the Silvia — for just a few hundred thousand yen, clashing with others insisting they must have cost millions. In the end, the thread caught fire less over whether the characters were “low-class” and more over correcting each other’s fuzzy memories of the market.

    1AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:57
    The protagonist's doing it to help out at home, so that's fine, but what about the other grown men?
    3AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:59
    Huh? It's just a manga, right?
    How much does it even cost
    to mod a car?
    44AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:16
    Re: #3
    Calling it a 'manga book' just reminded me of my grandpa, thanks for that
    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:59
    Earning your car money from a part-time job is pretty dim-witted
    10AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:00
    Re: #4
    That's exactly how you end up stuck with an '86 (AE86, the protagonist's beat-up Corolla)…
    15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:02
    Re: #4
    Gas stations were raking in absurd profits back then, as always
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:03
    The Takahashi brothers (kodooji — grown men still mooching off their parents at home)
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:04
    Re: #17
    The 'rich kid's hobby' angle for them actually feels pretty realistic
    19AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:05
    Calling guys who drive cars that fancy 'low-class'…
    23AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:07
    Re: #19
    You could buy one on a loan
    it's just a domestic car
    47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:16
    Re: #19
    Prices have shot up now, but back then they were dirt-cheap trash prices, that's exactly why they made good base cars to mod
    49AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:17
    Re: #19
    When the series first started, most of those models could be had for next to nothing…
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:08
    Honestly, gas alone would eat up your whole paycheck from a part-time job
    28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:09
    Re: #26
    No it wouldn't, like 20,000 yen tops
    30AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:11
    That was the golden age of domestic sports cars
    Now all Japan's got left is the GR86 and the Z
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:14
    Re: #30
    What about the Civic, the Swift, the BRZ?
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:14
    Re: #34
    What, those FF (front-wheel-drive) junkers?
    36AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:15
    Re: #34
    What, those FF (front-wheel-drive) junkers?
    33AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:14
    I drove a 350Z myself
    Small cars are cheap anyway, right?
    41AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:16
    Re: #33
    The poor man's Porsche?
    42AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:16
    Tearing up mountain passes in a car (lol)
    No decent working adult would ever get this fired up over something so dumb, so of course they had to cast low-life losers for it
    48AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:17
    Cars were already an otaku hobby before this manga even started
    53AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:20
    Re: #48
    Nah, that's wrong
    Otaku can't afford cars
    50AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:17
    Re: #47
    Not exactly dirt-cheap trash prices though
    used ones ran about 3 million yen
    56AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:21
    Re: #50
    A nice-condition GT-R or the latest Lancer Evo would run you 3 million yen even back then, but I don't think any of the racers in the story besides the Takahashi brothers and Nakazato actually bought cars like that
    Everyone else picked up their base cars for a few hundred thousand yen, or just over a million at most
    51AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:18
    What year is this even supposed to be set in, anyway?
    89AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    Re: #51
    The S2000 shows up, so probably around 2000
    73AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:26
    Cars like that go for 5 million yen now, but
    back then you could get one for 100,000 yen or even free
    so even part-timers and NEETs could afford to play around with them
    in a way, that's actually realistic
    80AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:29
    Re: #73
    How is that misinformation allowed to stand
    They're high-demand enthusiast cars
    so resale value runs high too
    82AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:30
    Re: #73
    How is that misinformation allowed to stand?!
    They're high-demand enthusiast cars
    so resale value runs high too
    they're popular models after all
    92AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    Re: #73
    A beat-up S13 was exactly like that
    It was such a huge hit when new that there were plenty of them around
    and 7-8 years later the used price dropped to next to nothing
    by then everyone wanted an S14 or S15 instead
    77AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:29
    I got my used EG6 (Honda Civic SiR) on the road for about 600,000 yen too
    Gas could get as cheap as the 70-yen-a-liter range back then
    88AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    Re: #77
    A new EG6 cost around 1.8 million yen…
    Even the EK9 (Civic Type R) listed for 1.99 million
    95AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:33
    Re: #80
    Nah, broke kids got them passed around within the scene
    Besides, back then a sports car with 100,000km on the clock
    had already been modded who-knows-how
    it was basically free scrap material anyway
    100AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:35
    Re: #95
    Getting one handed down by a senior for next to nothing
    was a classic story too, bikes included
    like 'I don't need this Zephyr anymore, want it for 50,000 yen?'

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Initial D ran as a manga from 1995 to 2013, and in-story details — like the appearance of the Honda S2000 — suggest the story is set around the year 2000. The reason price perceptions clashed so hard in the thread comes down to how wildly the used market for Japanese sports cars has swung over time. From the late ’90s through the early 2000s, sports cars that had just gone out of production flooded the market and crashed in value, so it wasn’t unusual to find these models going for a few hundred thousand yen. In recent years, though, a boom in classic-car popularity has sent the same models soaring into the millions. That gap meant posters arguing from “today’s market sense” and posters arguing from “the market sense of back then” kept talking past each other. In the end, the thread’s real point of contention wasn’t whether the characters counted as “low-class,” but how to read this gap between generations.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nanimo Jikkyo G) thread “Isn’t Initial D Kind of Lame With How Low-Class It Feels?.”