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  • Meiji Discontinues “Super Cup Matcha” Ice Cream — 5ch: “Because China Found Out About Tea”

    It has emerged that Meiji’s popular ice cream “Essel Super Cup Matcha 200ml” quietly ended production earlier this year. On social media, a wave of regret followed, with comments like “No way” and “That’s sad.” Since the article never spelled out a specific reason for the discontinuation, the 5ch thread filled up with posts tying it to rising overseas demand for matcha, climbing tea-leaf prices, and the rise of Chinese-made matcha. The discussion spread into suggestions for replacement flavors and comparisons with rival companies’ ice creams, eventually touching on deeper structural issues in the tea industry.

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    It has come to light that Meiji (headquartered in Chuo Ward, Tokyo) ended production this year of its popular ice cream “Meiji Essel Super Cup Matcha 200ml” (hereafter, Super Cup Matcha). On social media, a flood of distressed reactions followed, including “No way!”, “I knew something was off when I stopped seeing it at the supermarket…”, “I love it so much, this is shocking,” and “Of all the matcha ice creams, Super Cup was my favorite, so this is sad.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    6AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:35
    Because China found out about tea.
    83AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:54
    Re: #6
    Matcha's been heavily "remodeled" at this point, so it's basically a different thing from Chinese tea — but the custom of tea-drinking, and the cultivar that's the ancestor of today's Japanese tea, were actually brought over from Song-dynasty China.

    Well, maybe it's best not to tell foreigners about too many of Japan's good things.
    106AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:00
    Re: #83
    China's already growing matcha. The pricier Japanese stuff might stop selling.
    11AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:35
    Big companies really only know how to discontinue things, huh.
    97AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:58
    Re: #11
    They added too many variations, and now cutting the lineup in half is the only way the production division can stay afloat.
    A while back, unpaid overtime was the norm for factory workers, and slamming partner companies with impossible orders was business as usual.

    Now there's a serious labor shortage, overtime pay has to actually be paid (unpaid overtime's banned), and partner companies are bold enough to raise their participation fees.

    They're getting squeezed by planning quotas and budgets set half a century ago.

    On top of that, inflation just keeps climbing.

    At this point you just have to accept that cheap, small-batch production across tons of different items was the abnormal thing all along.
    13AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:36
    This conversation feels so disjointed, it's bugging me.
    32AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:40
    Re: #13
    It's like a flawless, 100-point textbook answer with no room to poke holes in.
    Just zero warmth to it.
    25AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:39
    They actually did the collab.
    Bring it back already.
    Not that I'll eat it, though.



    34AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:40
    Here we go again — sell Japanese food overseas and Japanese people end up with nothing left to eat, that pattern again?
    38AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:41
    Re: #34
    Tuna, eel, scallops, etc.
    Seriously, what a foolish nation.
    44AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:43
    Matcha products might disappear in Japan entirely.
    It'll all go overseas.
    51AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:44
    Re: #44
    Every hillside on the Pacific side turns into a tea field, and boom — monoculture economy incoming.
    63AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:48
    New release — now made with Chinese matcha!
    70AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:50
    Re: #63
    China spotted Japan's matcha boom and is now selling it worldwide at a fraction of the Japanese price.
    112AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:01
    Re: #70
    That's got nothing to do with the domestic Japanese market though.
    73AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:50
    Maybe ditch matcha and go with weed-flavor or something…
    76AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:51
    Re: #73
    That'd just make it the go-to flavor for Saitama residents. (a running joke that Saitama is nothing but empty fields and weeds)
    77AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:51
    Don't go blaming other people.
    81AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:53
    Super Cup is ice cream for poor people who can't afford Häagen-Dazs.
    169AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:17
    Re: #81
    That's not true.
    Even wealthy people eat this.
    It's just genuinely tasty.
    88AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:56
    I only ever pick Häagen-Dazs so I don't care either way.
    Super Cup's got way too much volume and nowhere near enough richness.
    94AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:57
    Re: #88
    Quit acting like such a connoisseur!
    103AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:59
    Matcha's best drunk as tea — it doesn't suit sweets.
    109AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:00
    Re: #103
    Cheap stuff is fine for confectionery use, but apparently the good, pricey stuff meant for drinking is getting bought up wholesale — the hardcore tea-ceremony crowd was lamenting it.
    104AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:59
    So now they'll use this mysterious thing called "Chinese-made Uji matcha"?
    123AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:03
    Re: #104
    Uji matcha has always had low production volume — the old common knowledge was that Nishio matcha got slapped with the "Uji" label for confectionery use without much basis.

    These days it's mostly Chinese-made matcha, and if you're unlucky, even the factory itself is in China.
    118AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:02
    I've only ever seen Super Cup in vanilla.
    Did they even have a tea flavor?
    Is there a chocolate one too?
    132AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:05
    Re: #118
    Yeah, there's a chocolate one.
    127AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:04
    Instead of matcha, how about mugwort — the "queen of herbs" — flavor, or tatami-rush flavor?
    153AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:11
    Re: #127
    Bought a sasa-dango (bamboo-leaf rice dumpling) ice cream — well, soft serve — at a roadside rest stop in Ojiya, Niigata…
    It genuinely tasted like real sasa-dango.
    146AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:09
    Feels like mugwort could actually be a solid contender, though.
    154AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:12
    Re: #146
    The farmers are aging out with no successors.
    Even Kagoshima's purple sweet potato only saw a wave of new products once seed potatoes got exported to China or Taiwan for mass production.
    Japanese-grown produce could end up completely wiped out if things go badly.
    162AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:16
    That powdered green tea they serve at conveyor-belt sushi places — that'd work fine.
    For the not-particularly-high-grade matcha used in ice cream, that could probably substitute, no?
    175AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:20
    Re: #162
    If you powder sencha instead, the bitterness gets way stronger though.
    165AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:16
    Super Cup's not tasty, don't need it.
    Bokujo Shibori and MOW are all I need.
    180AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:21
    Re: #165
    Got curious so I checked the official sites — looks like neither of those has a matcha flavor anymore either.
    171AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:19
    China's started growing matcha, so it'll probably make a comeback eventually — with imported matcha.
    181AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:21
    Re: #171
    Japanese trading companies are already buying up a ton of it, so Chinese-made matcha circulating domestically is bound to increase.
    173AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:19
    Seriously, stop recklessly selling things essential to Japanese daily life, like tea, overseas just to turn a profit.
    182AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:22
    Re: #173
    That's backwards. Back in the Meiji era, tea was expensive and ordinary people barely drank it — most of it went to America. Production ramped up because it sold well there, and only after the tea boom faded in America did ordinary Japanese people start drinking it.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    In recent years, rising overseas demand has driven up prices for Japanese tea, including matcha, and it’s said that even confectionery-grade matcha has become harder to secure. In the thread, posts showing real familiarity with industry circumstances stood out — things like the expansion of matcha production in China, and the backstory of how Nishio-produced matcha, intended for confectionery use, ended up being sold under the “Uji matcha” name as a matter of convenience. That said, the quoted portion of the article never explicitly states an official reason for the discontinuation, so the price increases and raw-material shortages remain speculation on the 5ch side. It’s also worth flagging, as a reader, that the thread sometimes blurred the line between the high-grade matcha used in tea ceremonies and the lower-grade matcha used in confectionery — the two have always differed in quality and price, and lumping them together under one “matcha shortage” narrative glosses over that distinction.

    ※This article excerpts and summarizes the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Ice Cream] “Super Cup Matcha” Discontinued, Fans Say “Sad,” “Shocked”… It’s Popular, So Why? We Asked Meiji and Found the “Real Reason”.”

  • Is the Oct. 16 Announcement the “Final”? 5ch: “You’ll Find Out Whether You Like It or Not Next Week”

    On 5ch’s Love Live! board, a thread heated up over what the official announcement scheduled for October 16 might contain. In the past, before the “Final Live” announcements for μ’s and Aqours, ticket and venue information reportedly leaked out of China ahead of time — and since no comparably solid leak has surfaced this time, some posters argued “this probably isn’t the Final.” Others shot back mockingly, “You’ll find out next week whether you like it or not, so stop desperately denying it.” Rumors also circulated that next spring’s TV programming slot had apparently been secured at 5 minutes longer than usual, fueling a tangle of speculation.

    1AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:37
    Anyone here?
    3AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:10
    Lately the cast lineup gets revealed right after the "Miryoku Discover" (charm-discovery segment) airs.
    So from 9pm tonight:
    If it's everyone → Final Live
    If Hinaki's in it → Live or movie
    If it's the other 3 → Movie

    That's a safe bet.
    4AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:16
    If it's the Final, it'd obviously be pre-recorded anyway — so why follow the usual pattern for "Miryoku Discover" but not for this?
    6AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:30
    Re: #4
    There's no rule saying it has to be pre-recorded just because it's the Final.
    There's only one precedent (Aqours) — what "pattern" are you even talking about, idiot?
    5AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:28
    So then it's not the Final, right? (lol)
    8AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:33
    Wasn't μ's pre-recorded too?
    And wasn't it leaked before the announcement precisely because it was pre-recorded?
    9AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:34
    The first announcement of the latest live's schedule and venue was just posted on X (Twitter) — that's how sloppily they handled what's supposed to be a major announcement.
    10AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:34
    Yeah, exactly — literally everything, down to the content, got leaked early.
    11AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:38
    The first announcement for the latest live (the 8th) was made at the movie's stage-greeting event, not on X, though? (the original text reads "eigasaki," likely referring to that event)
    13AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:39
    If it's the Final, remember μ's also had its live schedule scooped by Chinese fans two weeks before the official announcement.
    This time, the only thing coming out of China is some mysterious "Nijiyon 3" rumor.
    14AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:40
    Lol, desperately hunting for reasons it's not the Final.
    You'll find out next week whether you like it or not, so if you really didn't care you'd just act normal.

    Seems like you're actually sweating it, just like the thread title says.
    15AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:45
    That's just people speculating that Love Live secured a 25+5 minute slot on MX (TOKYO MX) next spring instead of a plain 25 minutes, and guessing it means Hasunosora + Nijigasaki — so it's still not confirmed to be Nijigasaki.
    Could be "Chii-buchou" for all we know (said completely deadpan, as a joke).
    20AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:05
    Re: #15
    Hasunosora's is in January, though.
    16AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:52
    If it's 5 minutes, the Nijigasaki guess does seem plausible.
    If they were doing something for the "Ikizu Live" they'd probably have announced it at the 2nd (show).
    17AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:00
    Even the guys denying it probably think the Final is coming deep down.
    They just don't want to admit it.
    42AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:00
    Liella! ("Hoshi") — whose own theme song CD, something that should sell on autopilot, only moved 2,409 copies, whose live shows run half-empty, who has to rope in senior units just to draw a crowd, and whose Blu-rays keep missing 10k in sales again and again — is clearly the one that's actually been cancelled, since they can't even get a movie made.
    45AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:11
    Re: #42
    Forgetting it's the only one that got a 3rd season and still screaming "but the movie!" — that's basically a sickness at this point (lol).
    43AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:05
    No matter how many times it's explained, some people just don't get what "cancelled" actually means.
    44AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:09
    Re: #43
    It's the Nijigasaki fanboys who don't get what "cancelled" means.
    47AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:11
    The anime "concludes" neatly with the movie.

    If you actually wanted to call something "cancelled," it'd be if the currently-airing "Miryoku Discover" suddenly got cut short.
    50AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:15
    Re: #47
    Don't drag out the rare case of "ending via movie" (lol).
    A show ends with the TV anime — the movie's just a bonus on top.
    And for Nijigasaki especially, it's purely being used to keep things on life support.
    They're stretching out what should've wrapped in one go and splitting it into three.
    49AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:14
    The reason they haven't announced the cast yet is just so it doesn't spoil which song is being covered next.
    51AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:15
    Re: #49
    Same reason it'd spoil the Final announcement too, right? (lol)
    53AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:17
    "Rare case" nothing — they flat-out call it the "Final Chapter" (lol).
    54AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:20
    Re: #53
    Nijigasaki's the only one calling it a "Final Chapter."
    That's only because they turned it into a life-support trilogy.
    If it were just one movie, nobody would call it a "Final Chapter."
    They call it that precisely because Nijigasaki is actually ending (lol).
    55AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:28
    Re: #54
    I'm not quite following — are you saying you're bitter they got three whole movies made?
    Liella! got to run three seasons and wrap up properly, so what's the problem?
    56AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:32
    Re: #55
    You Nijigasaki fanboys keep whining that Liella! never got a movie, so I'm just stating facts.
    57AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:36
    Re: #56
    I think Liella! already "concluded" with its 3rd season — is that wrong?
    Whether it's a movie or a TV anime, Nijigasaki and Liella! are in the same boat, no?
    58AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:38
    Re: #57
    That's right.
    The Nijigasaki fanboys are the ones whining that Liella! was "cancelled" because it never got a movie.
    59AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:43
    Re: #58
    "If" a movie had been planned and it just never happened, sure, that'd be a cancellation.

    But if it ended cleanly as an anime, that's not a cancellation.
    Nijigasaki's just trying to do the same thing — so where's the cancellation?
    60AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:49
    Re: #59
    If you're calling Liella! "cancelled" after it finished its planned run, then Nijigasaki is "cancelled" too by that logic.
    If you've got a complaint, take it up with the Nijigasaki fanboys who only know how to parrot "cancelled" over and over.
    61AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:57
    Re: #60
    I never even said I thought it was cancelled — I'm on your side here, and this is the thanks I get? Sad (lol).

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The Love Live! franchise is a large-scale property running multiple units in parallel — μ’s, Aqours, Nijigasaki High School Idol Club (“Nijiyon”), Liella! (“Hoshi”), and Hasunosora — and ahead of new developments, hints often surface in advance through several channels: cast-appearance information, programming schedule changes, and leaks from overseas. Note that both the “leak from China” and “the length of next spring’s broadcast slot” discussed in the thread are purely speculation on 5ch, not official announcements. The sales-figures-and-attendance-based rivalry between units is also a recurring setup regularly trotted out in fan conflicts, and the sourcing and context behind the numbers cited haven’t been verified. What the October 16 announcement actually turns out to be remains unconfirmed as of this writing.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Love Live!) thread “Guys who are honestly sweating over the 10/16 announcement wwwwwwwwwwww.”

  • Murakami Haruki Snubbed by Nobel Literature Prize Again — 5ch: ‘Let’s Meet Up Again Next Fall’

    On the 8th, the Swedish Academy announced that Canadian poet Anne Carson would receive the 2026 Nobel Prize in Literature. Haruki Murakami, who had drawn high expectations after publishing his first novel in three years, “Kaho: The Tale of KAHO,” missed out on the prize once again this year. On the 5ch “Geinou/Sports News+” thread, comments mixed amusement at the annual autumn gathering of “Harukists” (Murakami fans), debate over how to rate Murakami’s work, and wry remarks noting that an actual win would put an end to the yearly tradition.

    On the 8th, the Swedish Academy announced the Nobel Prize in Literature, awarding it to Canadian poet Anne Carson. Haruki Murakami, who is perennially named among the frontrunners, published his first novel in three years, “Kaho: The Tale of KAHO” (Shinchosha), this year, raising hopes — but he missed out on the prize yet again.

    Murakami, one of Japan’s leading authors, is known for works such as “Norwegian Wood” and “Kafka on the Shore,” and has been translated in more than 50 countries. Since winning the Franz Kafka Prize in 2006, he has consistently ranked among the top contenders for the Nobel according to bookmakers. Among Japanese writers, the prize has previously gone to Yasunari Kawabata and Kenzaburo Oe, and in 2017 it was awarded to Nagasaki-born British author Kazuo Ishiguro.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:11
    It's not really exciting anymore, huh.
    19AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:13
    Re: #4
    If they announced the Literature Prize first, it might generate more buzz, but since the science prizes usually come out beforehand, this one honestly feels like an afterthought by comparison.
    5AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:11
    How long are you guys gonna keep mocking Murakami over the Nobel Prize? (´・ω・`)
    8AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:11
    He's nowhere near Kenzaburo Oe's level lol
    12AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:12
    Naoki Matayoshi (the comedian-turned-novelist) might be the only one left with a shot
    21AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:13
    Murakami's overseas popularity is bigger in China than in the West.
    None of the film adaptations of his work have been award-caliber knockouts.
    In the West there's a 'past his prime' vibe around him, like Ryuichi Sakamoto, with no sign of a re-evaluation.
    23AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:14
    Harukists: 'We get to gather again next year. Thank you.'
    28AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:14
    Re: #23
    British bookmakers: 'Keep betting next year too, Japan lol'
    31AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:15
    Re: #23
    Though his name means 'spring' (Haru),
    we gather again every autumn (aki) —
    never growing tired of it (a pun on 'aki,' which also means 'to grow weary of something').
    26AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:14
    Thanks for keeping the tradition alive again this year.
    27AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:14
    My city library doesn't have a single Anne Carson book.
    33AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:15
    Guess a Japanese winner for Monday's Economics Prize is out of the question too? Though apparently someone named Nobuhiro Kiyotaki is in the running as a Japanese contender.
    34AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:15
    Last year a South Korean woman writer won.
    Who knows when it'll ever be a Japanese writer's turn lol
    49AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:17
    Re: #34
    Maybe another 20 years or so.
    58AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:18
    Re: #34
    Kawabata, Oe… should we throw Kazuo Ishiguro in there too?
    36AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:16
    There's probably some faction out there that just doesn't want Waseda University to have a Nobel laureate.
    37AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:16
    See you all again
    at next autumn's Harukist festival.
    38AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:16
    The odds had it down to Anne Carson or Can Xue, so the favorite won as expected.
    39AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:16
    Wait, is he actually nominated though?
    46AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:17
    Re: #39
    Sounds like he made it to the final shortlist this time.
    Close, but no cigar, I'd say.
    77AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:21
    Re: #46
    This year's judging records won't be made public until 2076.
    40AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:16
    He himself doesn't even seem to want it — why's everyone so hyped about this?
    43AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:17
    Did the Harukist crowd go eat pancakes drowned in cola at some random café again this year? (a nod to a scene from his novels that fans like to reenact)
    45AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:17
    If he actually won, they wouldn't get to gather again next year — so honestly, from a fan's perspective, not winning is for the best lol
    48AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:17
    You guys aren't actually gonna read a Nobel laureate's work anyway, are you?
    67AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:20
    Re: #48
    When Kenzaburo Oe won, bookstores set up special display corners, and I remember as a kid some random old guy standing in front of one shouting 'You're not gonna read it anyway!' before getting kicked out by staff — total childhood trauma.
    56AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:18
    Isn't he just not writing the kind of stuff that wins Nobel Prizes in the first place?
    60AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:18
    If he actually wins, there goes everyone's excuse to gather every autumn.
    61AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:18
    Haruki Murakami: Lifetime Honorary Nobel Literature Prize Candidate
    64AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:19
    Oh no.
    I look forward to this every year,
    and I totally forgot about it this time.
    66AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:20
    At this point he's just a toy for the trash media, the publishers, and the bookstores lol
    68AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:20
    How much longer is this crappy little festival gonna keep going?
    69AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:20
    I only know the plot summary of Norwegian Wood, but it struck me as some low-key erotic novel with a dash of literary-fiction seasoning sprinkled on top. Why's it rated so highly?
    86AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:22
    Re: #69
    It's a product of its era.
    During the bubble economy everyone was forcing themselves to be party animals and were exhausted by it.
    78AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:21
    The Nobel Prize in Literature: an annual ritual of humiliating Haruki Murakami.
    80AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:21
    Murakami's basically unknown outside Japan, China, and Korea.
    Why would anyone think he could win a Nobel?
    Ohtani's got better odds at this point.

    Background and Key Points

    Among Japanese writers, the Nobel Prize in Literature has gone to Yasunari Kawabata in 1968 and Kenzaburo Oe in 1994, while in 2017 it was awarded to Nagasaki-born British author Kazuo Ishiguro. Since winning the Franz Kafka Prize in 2006, Haruki Murakami has repeatedly been named a frontrunner in overseas bookmakers’ odds, yet he has never actually taken home the prize. Opinions on the thread split between those genuinely disappointed he missed out again, and those who joked it’s actually better this way, since it lets the annual tradition of “Harukists” gathering at cafes every autumn keep going. Views on Murakami’s own work were likewise divided, with some questioning his international reputation and literary merit and others defending it. One point worth noting: the Nobel committee’s deliberation records are sealed for 50 years, and there’s been no official word on who did or didn’t make the final shortlist — a detail that’s easy to get wrong.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Breaking] Haruki Murakami Fails to Win Nobel Prize in Literature Again This Year [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★].”

  • Nanako Matsushima’s “Regrets of My 20s” Remark Dredges Up Her Dark History from Her Tunnels Days

    At the October 6 press conference for the new season of the medical drama ER 24 Hours (Kyumei Byoto 24 Ji), lead actress Nanako Matsushima reportedly shared her “regrets from her 20s” with the younger cast. The report set off a 5ch Geino/Sports Breaking News+ thread about the “dark history” of her appearing on a Tunnels show at age 19. The discussion spread between those who remember the era’s signature gag — “It’s not a fart, it’s just air getting in” — and those debating the order of events between her breakthrough and her TV commercial work, with Ryoko Shinohara and Yasuko Matsushita, who went through similar segments around the same time, also coming up.

    2026/10/8

    On October 6, a press conference was held for the Fuji TV medical drama series ER 24 Hours (Kyumei Byoto 24 Ji), with lead actress Nanako Matsushima among those appearing.

    During a segment where younger cast members asked for advice, she looked back on her 20s and gently told them “how important it is to stick with something long-term, whether it’s a hobby or your work.”

    Source: jprime.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:12
    Because watching an Osaka night-view video channel is more fun than watching Peace-kun at Omiya Park on YouTube (Peace-kun being the park zoo's famous livestreamed elephant)
    4AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:12
    Nah, without that she never would've broken through
    Plus she was cute
    7AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:15
    Yasuko Matsushita appearing on Downtown's Gotchi Ee Kanji is dark history too — she just never owns up to it
    12AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:17
    Re: #7
    Funny how they both have "Matsu" (pine) in their names
    94AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:11
    Re: #7
    Back when Matsushita was doing her singer stint and went on HEY!HEY!HEY!, the two guys from Downtown brought up something along those lines with her
    8AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:16
    I kind of want her to just come out and say she hated every second of it
    that'd be exciting
    9AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:16
    Nanako Matsushima was 19 when she was appearing on that Tunnels show.
    10AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:16
    "It's not a fart, it's just air getting in"

    I was too young to get it at the time, but

    that was basically code for queefing
    13AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:17
    Nah, that's not the one that actually went viral online
    16AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:19
    She's a heavy smoker or something, right?
    She's done for
    18AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:19
    Re: #16
    If that were Takako Matsu though…
    25AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:23
    Tunnels is pathetic too
    Now that she's massively famous they never bring this up at all
    27AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:25
    Re: #25
    She kept going on Tunnels shows even after she made it big though
    30AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:27
    Re: #25
    They milked it for material and kept having her on, idiot
    44AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:36
    But she's still a regular on Kuwazugirai though
    If she really treated it as dark history, wouldn't she just stop appearing?
    92AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:11
    Re: #44
    Even past 075, she's been on Kuwazugirai and Kitanatoran loads of times too
    45AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:36
    The only time I actually laughed at a Tunnels show was THE ALFEE's Takamizawa taking on a bull
    84AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:04
    Re: #45
    The "Gift from the Sea of Malaga" bit was funny too, right
    46AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:38
    When Matsushima graduated from Minasan, Ishibashi told her, "You'll be fine no matter what job comes your way from now on" — lol
    82AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:03
    Re: #46
    That's basically a famous quote lol
    51AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:41
    I think her big break was the Nissan Avenir Salut commercial where she straddles the seat and goes "o-ma-ta" (spread your legs). Feels like she started showing up on Tunnels after that
    63AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:49
    Re: #51
    Wasn't the Tunnels appearance actually first?
    55AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:45
    Wasn't it the other way around — didn't that get her the car commercial in the first place?
    The one where she climbs from the back seat over the headrest into the passenger seat going "Oma-ta~"
    What car and model was that commercial even for?
    59AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:46
    Re: #55
    She was going "saru saru saru~" (monkey monkey monkey), wasn't she
    67AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:52
    Even as a kid I remember thinking there's no way she actually wanted to do this
    She must have nerves of steel
    72AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:55
    Re: #67
    Well, going that far is exactly what made her a star

    Without the Tunnels shows she'd have ended up some half-baked race queen or gravure model
    79AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:02
    Re: #72
    Getting picked as a regular on primetime variety already puts her way beyond that level
    If anything it's a miracle she went from doing that to landing lead roles in dramas
    87AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:06
    Re: #79
    No, if anything that's exactly what gets you cast — the "wow, she'll go this far?" factor

    Kind of like actresses who get more work after doing nude scenes
    90AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:09
    I think Ryoko Shinohara with Downtown is the same kind of deal
    96AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:13
    Re: #90
    Shinohara kept popping up as a guest on Downtown's shows even after she made it big
    But Matsushita…
    100AnonymousOct 8, 2026 20:16
    Matsushima and Shinohara are actually the same age, right at the peak of the second baby-boomer generation

    It's the generation with the most people in it, so if you're busy complaining about this stuff, a rival just takes the job
    Those two put their bodies on the line and that's how they got their shot and rose up

    Background and key points of this discussion

    In late-’90s variety TV, shows built around Tunnels regularly ran extreme, body-on-the-line stunt segments for up-and-coming female talent. More than a few of those women — Nanako Matsushima, Ryoko Shinohara, and Yasuko Matsushita among them — went on to become leading actresses in drama and film, and the thread was split over whether appearances like these actually kick-started their breakthroughs. The fact that she was only 19 at the time is the sort of detail that invites debate when viewed through today’s lens, but the overall tone of the thread was nostalgic, treating it as a kind of “rite of passage” on the road to stardom. How she herself felt about it at the time wasn’t addressed at this press conference.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geino/Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Just Air Getting In] Fans Stir Over Nanako Matsushima’s “Regrets of My 20s” Confession, Reviving Her Intense “Dark History” with Tunnels [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★]“

  • Kodaira City’s Official Website Knocked Offline by Ransomware Attack — Personal Data Possibly Leaked

    Tokyo’s Kodaira City official website has been inaccessible since shortly after 8 a.m. on October 7, after suffering a ransomware attack. According to the city, the cloud service used by the contractor that maintains the website appears to have been hit by a third party, and personal information of residents that the city had collected through its contact forms and other channels may have been leaked. There is no timeline yet for restoring service. On 5ch, the discussion branched out in all directions — doubts about the contracted cloud infrastructure and the state of government IT, distrust of the My Number (Japan’s national ID) system, and more.

    In Tokyo’s Kodaira City, the city’s official website has been inaccessible since the 7th after being hit by a ransomware attack from a third party. According to the city, residents’ personal information may have been leaked.

    According to Kodaira City, the website outage began shortly after 8 a.m. on the 7th, and there is still no prospect of restoration.

    The cloud service used by the contractor responsible for maintaining the website is said to have been hit by a third-party ransomware attack, and personal information the city had obtained through its contact forms and other means may have been leaked. (Source continues below)

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:13
    Guess bureaucrats outsource literally everything, huh
    15AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:15
    Re: #5
    Just a clerical job
    121AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:15
    Re: #5
    A data center beats on-prem anyway, right?
    18AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:16
    The real question is whether this was an inside job, deliberately leaked
    19AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:16
    There's no way a city government can pay a ransom
    So targeting Kodaira of all places means…
    27AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:18
    Re: #19
    We'll be fine if every resident just chips in ¥1,000
    28AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:18
    If it's the IDC Frontier incident, a whole region just got wiped out, so there's probably no actual data leak
    But snapshots and everything got nuked too, so without a local backup recovery is basically impossible
    32AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:20
    Re: #28
    No way the hackers didn't keep a copy for themselves
    The whole point is to hold the data hostage for extortion
    35AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:20
    Re: #28
    Why are you being so naive about this?
    36AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:21
    Isn't personal information supposed to be kept offline or something?
    41AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:21
    Re: #36
    If that were true, you wouldn't be able to print a residency certificate instantly at a convenience store lol
    51AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:25
    Ugh…
    Guess a My Number (national ID) data leak is coming soon too lol
    54AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:28
    Re: #51
    No problem
    It's written right in the terms that even if My Number data gets leaked or misused, the government takes zero responsibility
    57AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:29
    Re: #51
    That's probably already happening lol
    Going forward AI is going to pull together your LINE, Ameba, and old Twitter-era messages and link it all straight to your personal data
    We're headed into an era where AI compiles celebrity wikis listing exactly who spent how many hours with whom at a love hotel — the tabloids are done for
    64AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:33
    Re: #51
    It's fine, the government takes zero responsibility anyway
    84AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:54
    Deng Xiaoping was the paramount leader who drove China's reform and opening-up, laying the foundation for modern China's economic development.
    (Just riffing on the "Shouhei" name connection — Kodaira is written with the same kanji, 小平, as Xiaoping)
    110AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:10
    Re: #84
    Is Otani a "Mao" too then? (continuing the pun chain — baseball star Shohei Otani shares the "Shouhei" reading, now linking to Chinese leader Mao Zedong)
    97AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:58
    Wondering if I should buy a condo near Kodaira Station
    Nerima and Itabashi are just too expensive
    118AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:13
    Re: #97
    There can't be many places right by the station…
    Can you even build anything on the cemetery side?
    112AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:10
    The takeover of IDC Frontier's cloud infrastructure really isn't getting the news coverage it deserves given how serious it is
    124AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:19
    Re: #112
    Maybe they're going easy on it out of deference to parent company SoftBank?
    129AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:22
    Re: #112
    The evening news really avoided saying "SoftBank"
    (This was on) Nippon TV
    127AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:20
    I used to live in Kodaira a while back
    Wonder if my old data got swept up in this too
    170AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:47
    Re: #127
    Same here
    Who knows
    133AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:23
    This really shows just how much they've been looking down on IT engineers
    The skill level is rock bottom
    141AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:26
    Re: #133
    Feels like it's already too late at this point
    They tout "improved service" while it's full of holes
    147AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:29
    Re: #133
    It's less about the engineers and more that they don't want to pay for equipment or updates
    156AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:37
    By this time next week, won't something like 30% of municipal websites in Japan be down?
    160AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:43
    Re: #156
    Honestly, it'd be better if it just disappeared outright
    There's a real chance it gets secretly hijacked and starts pumping out misinformation
    Imagine a flood-danger alert getting swapped for "It's fiiine, totally safe~"
    186AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:57
    With a company, the motive is obvious — hold the data for ransom
    But hacking a government system,
    what's even the point, that part's unclear
    Is this a dry run for a real crisis
    a nation-vs-nation conflict
    in other words, prep work for war?
    193AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:01
    Re: #186
    If residency certificates and other government services go down
    I'd imagine quite a lot of people would be in real trouble
    198AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:03
    But honestly, maybe it's a good thing they're attacking now? If a real war actually breaks out, the infrastructure attacks will be on a whole different level.
    204AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:05
    Re: #198
    They don't even need to attack infrastructure — the US, China, and Russia could all be wiped out instantly anyway

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    In recent years, ransomware attacks on local governments have increasingly entered not through the municipality itself but through a contracted cloud vendor. Local governments outsource much of their operations to vendors, which makes it hard for the public to see where responsibility for an outage or breach actually lies. In the thread, discussion went on without ever quite settling whether this was simply a case of “the site being encrypted and inaccessible” or whether “data was actually stolen.” In recent ransom-driven attacks, the common method has shifted to stealing data in advance and then threatening to publish it, so the site outage and the potential data leak may well be separate issues. Note that the information at risk here is data the city itself held via its contact forms and similar channels, and is not directly tied to the My Number national ID system itself.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Tokyo] Kodaira City’s official website remains inaccessible after ransomware attack… residents’ personal information possibly leaked.”

  • Memory Prices Surge, So Windows Finally Goes on a Diet — 5ch: ‘Should’ve Done This From the Start’

    Soaring semiconductor demand from the AI boom has driven up memory prices, and PC makers are moving back toward 8GB configurations. Windows has long operated on the assumption that “more memory is always better,” bloating with each release — but Microsoft is reportedly reversing course and working to cut memory consumption, with some reports claiming actual reductions in memory usage in the recent Windows 11 26H2 update. On 5ch, reactions were split: sarcastic comments like “should’ve done this from the start,” skepticism that this is just a cosmetic numbers improvement, and analysis pointing to heavyweight components like WebView2 as the real culprit behind memory bloat.

    5AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:03
    Right now, memory prices keep climbing thanks to the AI boom, and OEM PCs are drifting back to 8GB configurations. Microsoft has long insisted that "more RAM is always better," but now, ironically, the logic has flipped to "RAM's too expensive, so let's lighten the OS instead." Whether Windows 11 can actually hold up in an 8GB RAM world looks like it could be a major turning point.
    19AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:17
    Re: #5
    An 8GB PC sounds rough.
    Won't you hit the ceiling just running Chrome?
    74AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:04
    Re: #5
    Should've done this from the start.
    6AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:04
    Reports of speedups and reduced memory usage with Windows 11 26H2
    https://news.mynavi.jp/techplus/article/20261007-5083736/


    ^
    Right after 26H2 dropped, tons of reports came in about reduced memory usage.
    You guys should update to 26H2 ASAP.
    7AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:05
    Aside from Steam dropping support and the security issues, Windows 7 would've been fine — this is just dumb.
    8AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:07
    Re: #7
    > Steam dropping support and the security issues

    That's a huge problem though.
    9AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:10
    Don't go messing with unnecessary stuff…

    You guys are just going to cause way more bugs than that.
    11AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:11
    Re: #9
    26H2 runs great.
    93AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:16
    Re: #9
    Compressing memory with some new algorithm and then getting blue screens sounds exactly like something that would happen.
    10AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:11
    It's been a memory hog this whole time.
    16AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:14
    Re: #10
    Seriously this.

    Don't need all that bloatware bundled in either.
    18AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:17
    Hard to believe Microsoft has the technical chops for this.
    They never did a real fix because rewriting the code was too much of a hassle.
    52AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:02
    Re: #18
    It's not a technical skill issue — it got bloated because they leaned heavily on WebView2 to cut costs.
    20AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:17
    So it's like "gas prices are brutal, so we're ditching the American muscle car for a kei car" (a small Japanese minicar)?
    And now that they can actually do it, people are gonna ask why they didn't do it sooner.
    87AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:58
    Re: #20
    Gas prices (i.e. memory) used to be cheap.
    26AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:26
    If you're as rich as Microsoft, you should just build a memory fab and get into the memory business yourself.

    And if that causes a memory glut and prices crash, so what — you're one of the biggest companies in the world.
    Protect your own foundation to protect your own Windows.
    27AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:29
    Re: #26
    Apparently there's not even enough power for that to begin with.
    28AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:30
    Re: #26
    You don't get rich doing stuff like that.
    They got this big by pushing the risk onto someone else and keeping all the benefits for themselves.
    30AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:32
    Like Teams, which is totally dependent on WebView2.
    They'll talk a big game but never actually fix it.
    90AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:03
    Re: #30
    Of course they can't — with today's app scale and update frequency, there's no way to do native support for every environment like in the old days.
    If anything, consoles that are built against optimized dedicated APIs are the real living fossils here.
    Though even that's fading, since Xbox dropped its dedicated API starting with the Series X and unified on DirectX.
    43AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:55
    Way too little technical skill.

    If Nintendo made a PC OS, it'd probably be amazing.
    Why don't they do it?
    44AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:55
    Re: #43
    Probably because they don't have the rights to.
    You're not thinking this through — there are barriers.
    46AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:56
    A company that says "memory got too expensive so we're standardizing on 8GB" while having zero qualms about jacking up the OS price at the same time.
    47AnonymousOct 8, 2026 16:57
    Re: #46
    Wait, did they actually raise the price?
    58AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:12
    They're probably just throwing it at AI to get it rewritten right now.
    60AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:15
    Re: #58
    I can already see the future: AI generates garbage code, it turns into a bug festival, and everyone's screaming in agony lol
    61AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:20
    Re: #59
    Sounds like you don't understand the current state of Ace Combat 8 lol
    64AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:29
    Re: #61
    There are crash reports, but it's not a spec issue.
    Ace Combat 8 isn't demanding in terms of performance.
    Minimum: RTX 2060 / RX 6600
    Recommended: RTX 3070 / RX 6800

    The requirements are actually on the lower side.
    The crashes will probably get patched out.
    67AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:40
    Apparently Windows 12 is going to ship on Helix — wonder how that'll turn out.
    68AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:42
    Re: #67
    Even the XSS (Xbox Series S) costs ¥100,000, so are they planning to sell this for something like ¥400,000?
    78AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:28
    Vista gradually got lighter with updates, but by the time that happened, Windows 7 — already lighter than Vista — had taken over.
    82AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:48
    Re: #78
    SP3 wasn't really that different from 7, and 7 came after that anyway, didn't it?
    84AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:53
    Re: #78
    Nice lie.

    There's no way SP3 runs on 512MB either.
    89AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:01
    Most of this is just releasing memory that was reserved on the assumption it'd be used anyway — so it just looks like more memory is free.
    Once you actually start using it normally, it eats up about the same amount of memory as before.
    91AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:08
    Re: #89
    Wait what? Task Manager shows it going down though.
    95AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:19
    It's just optimizing for the max memory available.
    With 8GB, it adapts to 8GB.
    It's been swapping all along, so with an SSD it was basically fine anyway.
    With 16GB it feels like usage has gone up compared to before.
    Boot used to be 4.7GB, now it's +1GB.
    Once you use Edge and Chrome together it goes over 10GB.
    98AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:23
    Re: #95
    Chrome's the one hogging it.

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    The backdrop here is the surge in memory demand and DRAM price spikes driven by the AI boom that’s been ongoing since late 2025. This has forced PC makers to scale back the amount of memory they ship, and it’s chipping away at the design assumption Windows has relied on for years: that memory is abundant. Where opinions in the thread split was over whether this slimming-down actually reduces real-world memory usage, or whether it’s just releasing “unused” memory on the surface. Poster #89 voiced skepticism based on past experience, while poster #95 gave a positive assessment citing real-world measurements on both 8GB and 16GB systems. There’s also a point (poster #52) that dependence on heavyweight components like WebView2 and Teams is part of what’s driving memory consumption, though the responses alone don’t make clear whether this is a fundamental redesign or just a tweak. Some commenters bring up the history of Windows Vista slimming down into Windows 7, but that’s based on personal recollection, not any official figures.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “Microsoft: “Memory’s too expensive, so going forward Windows will lighten up its RAM requirements! A new memory strategy!”“

  • FC Osaka vs. Kumamoto Match Moved to Weekday at Expo Stadium After Losing Hanazono Venue — 5ch: ‘Revoke Their License Already’

    On October 8, the J.League announced that the J3 Division Round 15 match between FC Osaka and Roasso Kumamoto will be moved from November 3 to November 4, with kickoff shifted to a weekday at 2:00 PM and the venue changed from FC Osaka’s home ground, Hanazono Rugby Stadium, to Expo Commemorative Stadium. FC Osaka commented, “As a club, we feel truly sorry about this.” On 5ch, threads filled up with complaints about the lack of consideration for Kumamoto supporters traveling to the match, along with repeated calls to revoke FC Osaka’s J3 license over its recurring stadium problems. Many also questioned why the club couldn’t simply borrow the home ground of one of the other J.League clubs in the Kansai region.

    FC Osaka vs. Kumamoto Set for Weekday Afternoon Kickoff at Expo Commemorative Stadium: “As a Club, We Feel Truly Sorry”

    On the 8th, the J.League announced the new date, kickoff time, and venue for the J3 Division Round 15 match between FC Osaka and Roasso Kumamoto, whose venue had previously been undecided.

    The match was originally scheduled for the November 3 holiday with the kickoff time still undecided, but today’s announcement moved the date to November 4. Kickoff is set for 2:00 PM, with the venue being Expo Commemorative Stadium.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:44
    Kumamoto supporters planning the trip must be floored by this.
    At this point it's on the J.League.
    4AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:45
    There's a perfectly good stadium right there!
    Why not just make Expo Commemorative Stadium their home ground?
    5AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:46
    Why did they even let this club into the J.League?
    13AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:59
    Re: #5
    Because they got handed a license.
    7AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:50
    It's pathetic that the association isn't handing out its usual punishments.
    Is 'the chairman' (lit. "chair man" — a mocking nickname) pretending he can't see or hear any of this?
    None of this would be an issue if they'd just built the second ground like they originally promised.
    8AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:52
    Guess this is just how it's going to be until rugby season wraps up.
    9AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:52
    Yeah, FC Osaka is beyond saving at this point.
    This is just not normal.
    10AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:53
    Somebody sort FC Osaka out already, this is way too sloppy.

    It makes all the other clubs that are actually doing things properly look like fools.
    11AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:56
    Even the guy organizing the office drinking party does a better job of planning than this.
    12AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:58
    Just hurry up and renovate the Hanazono second ground already.
    Figured a weekday night might still be tolerable, but then…
    a weekday afternoon?! lol

    Though I guess it might be so Kumamoto fans can still make it home that day.
    14AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:01
    Forget soccer, let's just go play golf!
    15AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:02
    This is a problem not just for the club but for the J.League itself.
    Why is a club that can't even secure a stadium allowed to keep operating?
    16AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:02
    Shouldn't a club that can't properly secure a venue just have its license revoked?
    17AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:03
    Just kick them out of the J.League already. They're way too much of a nuisance.
    19AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:04
    They're always saying sorry, aren't they.
    So, are the renovation blueprints even done? Have they been filed yet?
    20AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:04
    Which has a bigger presence in Osaka, FC Osaka or Osaka Pro Wrestling?
    27AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:11
    Re: #20
    FC Osaka is a team from Higashiosaka, so it doesn't really have a presence in Osaka proper.
    22AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:05
    Maybe they should just become wandering nomads at this point?
    They issued a license to Nankatsu FC too, and that club doesn't even own a stadium.
    24AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:08
    So it's not Gamba's stadium,
    it's the athletics track venue instead.
    28AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:16
    Can't they just borrow Cerezo's stadium?
    30AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:24
    Won't they lend out that fancy stadium in Suita?
    31AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:24
    The most widely recognized team in the 'Tax League' (a sarcastic jab implying the club survives on public subsidies rather than the 'J League')
    35AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:26
    Re: #31
    Well yeah, they're the popular club that made national news lol
    32AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:25
    Checked just now and tickets still aren't on sale.
    What's more, the opposing team can't sell tickets either.
    Rough for the other team, getting dragged into this mess.
    34AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:26
    Gamba, Cerezo, Vissel, Sanga —
    Kansai has four J1 clubs' home stadiums,
    and yet somehow they're holding the match in Kitakyushu City instead.
    36AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:26
    The whole 'hometown' concept seems kind of absurd here.
    Anywhere in Osaka should be fine, right?
    Just use Cerezo's or Gamba's stadium.
    61AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:57
    Re: #36
    Apparently FC Osaka did something rude in the past and got themselves banned.
    38AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:30
    Nara Club's stadium is actually closer — they should just rename themselves 'FC Hanna' (a portmanteau of Osaka's 'Han' and Nara's 'Na').
    39AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:30
    They should revoke the license now, even at this point.
    41AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:32
    Actually, why not just force a relegation?
    Forget results — they can't even run the club properly.
    42AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:33
    Re: #41
    Exception after exception after exception.
    The real answer is probably whether any club has ever actually had its license revoked before.
    50AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:39
    Holding it on a weekday afternoon — even pro baseball wouldn't draw a crowd doing that.
    82AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:28
    Re: #50
    Back in the day Hokkaido used to hold weekday day games,
    and the stands were actually pretty packed.
    51AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:41
    Tough break that the takeover attempt failed.
    52AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:45
    Re: #51
    If they genuinely thought they could pull off a takeover with a method that sloppy…
    maybe they figured it'd work just because the mayor was on their side?
    79AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:26
    Wait, is this the story about that clownish club that got locked out after their takeover attempt flopped?
    83AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:31
    Re: #79
    They were actually close to pulling off the Hanazono takeover.
    The problem was it got exposed publicly.
    They should still be in as one of the designated facility managers though.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Hanazono Rugby Stadium in Higashiosaka, FC Osaka’s home ground, sees a heavy concentration of national rugby tournaments and League One matches during the winter months, making it difficult to use for soccer during this period — and this latest switch to Expo Commemorative Stadium is believed to be a result of that scheduling crunch. As for the “revoke the license” argument that came up repeatedly in the thread, J.League club licenses are issued on a yearly basis and aren’t structured to be revoked immediately just because of a venue change; there’s also no precedent of a license being pulled solely over stadium issues. The suggestion that FC Osaka “should just borrow another J1 club’s home ground” also came up, but each stadium operates under its resident club’s annual schedule and usage contract, so it isn’t something that can simply be lent out. The “takeover” controversy referenced in the thread appears to point to a past episode involving the selection process for Hanazono’s designated facility manager, but the original article doesn’t go into detail on this, and it should be noted that it remains largely speculation on commenters’ part.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geisoku Sokuho+) thread “[Soccer] ‘FC Osaka vs. Kumamoto’ Moved to Weekday Afternoon Kickoff, Venue Changed from Hanazono to Expo Commemorative Stadium — “As a Club, We Feel Truly Sorry…”.”

  • 8 Osaka Students Barred From National Track Meet Over Registration Blunder — Hashimoto: ‘Don’t Let Kids Pay for Adults’ Mistakes’

    An official at the Osaka Prefecture Junior High School Athletic Federation botched the entry procedure for a national track and field meet, leaving eight junior high and high school students from Osaka unable to compete. The registration window ran for roughly a month, from noon on August 21 to 6:00 PM on September 24, but the official reportedly didn’t know entries could be changed or canceled after submission, and also misunderstood the deadline itself. Toru Hashimoto, former governor of Osaka Prefecture and now a lawyer, argued on a TV program that “adults’ mistakes shouldn’t be visited on the children — starting next year, the rules should be changed so kids can still compete even if the same kind of mistake happens.” On 5ch, opinions split between sympathy for the students and more cautious voices arguing that “they should figure out how to prevent the mistake in the first place” or “if you allow exceptions, there’s no end to it,” with reactions to Hashimoto’s comments similarly divided.

    Toru Hashimoto proposes on the “8 Osaka junior high/high school students can’t compete at nationals due to an entry mistake” issue: “Don’t let adults’ mistakes fall on the kids. Starting next year, the rules should be changed so children can still compete even after the same kind of mistake.”

    Due to an entry error by the Osaka Prefecture Junior High School Athletic Federation’s track and field division (“Osaka Chutairen”), eight junior high and high school students from Osaka have been barred from competing in the national track and field championships.

    On Kansai TV’s program “Shunkan LIVE Toretate!,” former Osaka governor and lawyer Toru Hashimoto laid out his view: “Don’t let the kids pay for adults’ mistakes. Adults’ mistakes should be penalized on the adults.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:37
    This is only blowing up because it's Osaka. The athletics federation's response wasn't wrong.
    15AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:41
    Can't Yoshimura (Osaka's governor) at least say something like 'let them compete and I'll resign as governor instead'? Don't just gripe from a safe distance — sacrifice yourself and actually help these kids out.
    32AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:46
    Re: #15 Using your position to bend the rules like that would be a huge problem.
    19AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:41
    Once you can just chalk it up to 'an adult's mistake,' anything goes, huh.
    96AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:58
    Re: #19 Exactly. I mean, who else but an adult was ever going to be the one making this mistake anyway?
    22AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:43
    I was on my high school track team, and once the relay roster didn't get submitted in time on meet day, so I couldn't race. Of all times, it was my final meet as a third-year.
    27AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:44
    Re: #22 LOL, dragged down by a useless jock of a teacher.
    31AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:45
    How exactly would they even change it? Let people enter after the deadline with a politician's recommendation or something?
    46AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:49
    Re: #31 Registering after the deadline should cost money — make the ones who neglected to register pay 10,000 yen (about $65) each.
    49AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:50
    They'd submitted their entry one minute before the deadline.
    69AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:53
    Re: #49 If that were true it would've gone through. The login itself happened one minute before (lol) — the screen just changed right after and that was it.
    51AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:50
    They should just let the athletes enter themselves instead of going through the school. That way, if there's a mistake, it's on them.
    73AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:54
    Re: #51 From what I gather, athletes who've already cleared the qualifying standard get entered through their school and can compete as normal. But athletes who, say, won some other competition get entered by the junior high athletic federation instead, and that's apparently where the mistake happened this time. (This came up in Google's AI search mode though, so it might not be accurate.)
    61AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:52
    Normally you'd think they'd focus on a system that prevents the mistake in the first place, no?
    70AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:53
    Re: #61 Exactly. But instead, they're glossing over the federation's own mistake and using it as a springboard to push for a rule change.
    67AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:53
    "I finally managed to log in at 5:59:13 PM (on September 24). Since the event was being held in Mie Prefecture, I searched using 'Mie Prefecture' as my keyword, but I had trouble finding the right page and ended up on the U18 meet's page by mistake — that's when I realized the error. After that I rushed to find the information page for the U16 meet entry and logged in, but by the time I got in it was 6:00:01 PM, and the entry button was no longer there."
    74AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:54
    Re: #67 So the 'one minute before' thing was actually for a different competition?
    76AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:55
    It wasn't the school that made the mistake, it was the junior high athletic federation — so they should just let the kids compete as normal. This whole situation is so dumb.
    88AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:57
    Re: #76 Right. The school didn't mess anything up.
    78AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:55
    The fault here lies entirely with the school to begin with, so if anything should be fixed first, it's how the school handles meet entries. Talk of changing the rules should come after that.
    85AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:57
    Re: #78 It's not even the school — it's the Osaka junior high athletic federation.
    84AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:57
    I looked it up — the entry period for this meet ran from 12:00 PM on August 21 to 6:00 PM on September 24. With that much time to work with, forgetting to enter is just dumb.
    99AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:59
    Re: #84 The staff member made two mistakes: they forgot that entries could be changed or canceled after submission, and they got the deadline date wrong. If they'd just done a provisional registration back on August 21, none of this would've happened.
    90AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:57
    Why not just charge a hefty extra registration fee and let them in?
    120AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:03
    Re: #90 The tricky part is the entries are already locked in — adding the Osaka athletes would bump other athletes out. For the 100m, only 48 can compete, so adding the Osaka athletes would mean knocking out the 48th-place athlete from Okayama.

    U16 Boys' 100m — Target number: 48 / Competing: 48
    45 Osaka
    48 Okayama
    — cutoff line, everyone above competes —
    49 Mie
    64 Osaka
    111AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:01
    Old people's rigidity is seriously scary. They're so shackled by rules, regulations, and compliance that it's warped their minds. If you've got no flexibility, you're basically worthless as a human being.
    122AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:03
    Re: #111 If you flexibly think through all the different scenarios, you end up concluding that this kind of self-serving exception shouldn't be allowed. Thinking 'poor kids!' and stopping there is the shallow, closed-minded take.
    116AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:02
    I know someone whose coach botched the application and they couldn't compete at nationals because of it. They found out on-site. It's been three or four years now, but it clearly still looks like serious trauma for them.
    124AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:04
    Re: #116 Ugh, finding out on-site must have been brutal. That's really rough. All you can do is hope a lot of good things come their way…
    126AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:04
    Then just have the students apply for themselves.

    [Picture the] coach: "Oops, I forgot to submit the whole batch…"
    135AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:07
    Re: #126 I think that'd be fine honestly. Teachers forgetting to submit things happens every year even with high school entrance exam applications.
    130AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:06
    Schools are so strict about students being late, yet here the adults can't even make a deadline. When I once used 'Wicky-san got me' as my excuse for being late (a reference to a TV prank/urban-legend character used as a jokey alibi), they absolutely lost it at me.
    136AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:07
    Re: #130 The school isn't actually the one at fault here, though.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The core issue here isn’t a mistake by the schools, but a procedural oversight by a staff member at the Osaka Prefecture Junior High School Athletic Federation, which organizes the meet. The entry window ran for over a month, from noon on August 21 to 6:00 PM on September 24, so this wasn’t a simple case of forgetting — it came down to two overlapping errors: not realizing entries could be changed or canceled after submission, and misjudging the deadline time itself. Where opinions split on the thread was over whether Toru Hashimoto’s proposed rule change — that “adults’ mistakes shouldn’t disadvantage children” — was the right call, with sympathy for the students on one side and caution that “allowing exceptions would make things unmanageable” on the other. It’s also worth noting, and easy to miss, that the competition slots are capped, so adding the Osaka athletes could mean bumping athletes from another prefecture out entirely — meaning simply expanding the field isn’t a straightforward fix given the meet’s structural limits.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku Sokuho+) thread “[Track and Field] 8 Osaka junior high/high school students can’t compete at nationals due to an entry mistake… Toru Hashimoto: ‘Don’t let adults’ mistakes fall on the kids. The rules should be changed’.”

  • Can Chunichi Win the Pennant Next Year? 5ch Debates: “Team ‘We Can Do It’ vs. Team ‘No Way’”

    Can the Chunichi Dragons contend for the Central League pennant next year? That question sparked a lively debate on a 5ch live-commentary thread. Posters floated concrete proposals one after another — signing big-name foreign players, moving pitcher Kanamaru to the bullpen, even a trade with SoftBank — while the stubbornly realistic view that “it’s going to be Hanshin, Yomiuri, or Yokohama no matter what” held firm. Some argued that simply shoring up the bullpen could be enough to reach the Climax Series, while others coolly pointed to SoftBank’s dominant 2017 lineup as proof that “the scale of reinforcement needed is on a totally different level.” The thread ended up a mix of hope and resignation.

    1AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:45
    Feel that.
    3AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:46
    Hanshin looks like it's heading into a transition phase too, so I think there's a chance.
    4AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:47
    As always, everyone's full of energy in the offseason.
    6AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:47
    C'mon, it's not that easy.
    For now the real fight is just aiming for 3rd place.
    11AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:49
    Whether they're strong or weak, they always keep us entertained, so it's all good.
    12AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:51
    Could Kanamaru really move to the bullpen?
    He could turn into another Moinelo-in-relief type (SoftBank's lefty ace, who's lethal out of the pen).
    16AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:52
    It's not impossible if they land three foreign imports who can hit 30 homers, 100 RBIs, and field well.
    Throw in a starter who can win 25 games too.
    76AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:35
    Re: #16
    Landing even one guy who hits 100 RBIs is an impossible task lol
    17AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:52
    Isn't that just assuming the reinforcements actually pan out?
    Well, foreign signings do hit it big once in a while.
    19AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:52
    If they could trade for Yamakawa, there might be a one-in-a-million chance.
    20AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:53
    If they could land one proven-in-Japan import each for pitching and hitting, they could do it.
    21AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:55
    If they draft an immediate-impact reliever with their first pick, they could do it.
    22AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:55
    Which side is actually right here — Team 'We Can Do It' or Team 'No Way'?
    63AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:20
    Re: #22
    The correct move is to decide once next year's final standings are in.
    23AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:57
    If they can put together a decent bullpen, winning the pennant aside, they'll definitely be in Climax Series contention.
    24AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:57
    Hope trades with SoftBank pick up.
    25AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:58
    C'mon, it's obviously impossible.
    It's going to be Yomiuri, Yokohama, or Hanshin.
    26AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:58
    The Central League right now is basically six weak teams, so if they load up on reinforcements they could break away from the pack.
    30AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:59
    Re: #26
    The gap between the top tier and the rest is huge though
    Honestly the pecking order's been locked in for a while now.
    28AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:59
    Let's draft a ton of developmental prospects with an eye on a few years down the road.
    29AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:59
    If they could get like 5 SoftBank core players on loan, 3rd place is doable.
    Kondo and Yanagita for starters.
    31AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:00
    If you're asking yes or no, yes there's a chance.
    Hanshin 40%
    Yomiuri 20%
    Yokohama 20%
    Chunichi 10%
    Hiroshima 5%
    Yakult 5%
    something like that though.
    32AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:00
    If they had SoftBank-level talent and a manager to match, sure, they could do it.
    33AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:02
    Chunichi needs a hard-working veteran with winning experience who can set an example for the young guys and lead the team.
    What about trading with SoftBank for Tohama, Imamiya, and Yamakawa?
    34AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:03
    If they actually win it with this roster, that'd be hilarious.
    72AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:32
    Here's the lineup from 2017, the strongest version of Kudo's Hawks:

    1. Akashi (2B) .279, 1 HR, 23 RBI, OPS .691, 5 SB
    2. Imamiya (SS) .264, 14 HR, 64 RBI, OPS .739, 15 SB
    3. Yanagita (CF) .310, 31 HR, 99 RBI, OPS 1.016, 14 SB
    4. Uchikawa (1B) .297, 12 HR, 50 RBI, OPS .851
    5. Dess (DH) .262, 35 HR, 103 RBI, OPS .859, 3 SB
    6. Nakamura (LF) .270, 6 HR, 42 RBI, OPS .705, 3 SB
    7. Matsuda (3B) .264, 24 HR, 71 RBI, OPS .777, 5 SB
    8. Uebayashi (RF) .260, 13 HR, 51 RBI, OPS .736, 12 SB
    9. Kai (C) .257, 5 HR, 18 RBI, OPS .695, 4 SB
    75AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:35
    Re: #72
    Way too strong
    No wonder even the Bay Stars in hyper hot-streak mode would lose to that.
    84AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:45
    Yokohama's looking like it's about to get ridiculously strong though.
    87AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:52
    Re: #84
    Next year's Central League pennant just goes to whoever wins the 'foreign player gacha' (i.e. gets lucky with import signings)
    No team's suddenly getting strong out of nowhere.
    85AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:51
    A Hawks fan's user manual for manager Kudo Kimiyasu:

    • Completely ignores on-base percentage
    • Undervalues walks, loves an early swing
    • Obsessed with batting average
    • Bullpen turns over every year except for Safate
    • Values experience over youth (and "experience" really just means age)
    • Likes fast runners at the top of the order
    • Huge fan of the bunt
    • Hypes up "fewer bunts this year" before the season, then it's a bunt festival anyway
    • Was basically just carried by Yanagita and Safate
    103AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:06
    Re: #85
    No doubt it's better than Inoue, but still, this is…
    107AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:09
    Re: #85
    Perfect fit for the Chunidora (nickname for the Dragons), regular winners of the 'pace-of-play speed-up award'!
    90AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:54
    They were supposed to have good pitching, but
    isn't the pitching staff worse than expected somehow?
    91AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:55
    Re: #90
    The starters are decent enough
    it's the bullpen…
    95AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:58
    Don't get your hopes up
    2nd place is probably the best they'll do again next year.
    97AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:00
    Re: #95
    Quit the 'way too optimistic' challenge.
    99AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:01
    Go at least even with Yokohama.
    Go at least .500 on the road.
    Get at least even results out of Kanamaru.
    Do all that, and it's the pennant.
    106AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:08
    Re: #99
    There's no way they pull off all of that, so it's last place again lol
    102AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:05
    If they had SoftBank-level money to spend on reinforcements, there'd be some hope of at least sneaking into the Climax Series, but there's no way Chunichi Shimbun (the newspaper company that owns the team) can swing that. And if they actually shook up the roster, Chunidora fans wouldn't stay quiet about it anyway. They've gotten way too comfortable.
    110AnonymousOct 8, 2026 19:13
    Re: #102
    Nice try, hater
    That's the same front office that took a team stuck dead last in home runs forever and got it within 4 of the league lead in just three years — pretty competent, actually.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The Chunichi Dragons have long been considered a team whose pitching outpaces its offense, and every offseason brings the same recurring argument: hope for major reinforcements clashing with the resigned feeling that “it’s hopeless anyway.” The thread split between an optimistic camp arguing that stacking up concrete moves — big foreign signings, trades — could put the team within reach of the pennant, and a pessimistic camp holding that the talent gap with Hanshin, Yomiuri, and DeNA has already become locked in over the past several years. The 2017 SoftBank lineup brought up in the thread represents the peak of the Kudo Kimiyasu managerial era, when the Hawks had multiple heavy hitters lined up together, and it’s cited here as a comparison to show just how much bigger that scale of reinforcement really was. Worth noting: the proposed trades with SoftBank are low-probability hypotheticals that would hinge on the players’ own wishes, among other things — there’s no sign that actual negotiations between the two clubs are underway.

    *This article was excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyō G) thread “Could the Chunichi Dragons Seriously Win It All Next Year?.”

  • Kohaku Uta Gassen Faces Its ‘Strongest Rival Show Ever’ — NHK Fears a Ratings Hit

    With the 77th NHK Kohaku Uta Gassen broadcast just three months away, the lineup of performing artists is entering its final selection stage. According to recent reports, NHK is on edge about a “strongest rival program” that could eat into its New Year’s Eve ratings. In the 5ch thread that followed, posters questioned the very point of Kohaku itself — noting that the red-team-versus-white-team format has become a hollow formality, debating whether performers from the former Johnny’s (now Start Entertainment) agency should appear given recent scandals, and pointing out that there’s no clear song of the year to headline the show.

    Kohaku Uta Gassen’s Ratings Are Bound to Take a Hit… The “Strongest Rival Show” NHK Fears

    “We’re now less than three months from the broadcast of the 77th NHK Kohaku Uta Gassen. The selection of performing artists is in its final stage — which artists will make this year’s lineup?” (a sports newspaper reporter)

    NHK Kohaku Uta Gassen, the nation’s beloved New Year’s Eve music program that closes out the year.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:32
    Re: #1
    Great Detective Tsuda could take down Kohaku.
    74AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:44
    Re: #4
    It won't beat it, but it'll put up a good fight.
    5AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:32
    Will Nogizaka46 even get to perform?
    34AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:56
    Re: #5
    Inoue Nagi is playing Chacha in this year's NHK Taiga drama, so she won't get cut this year — next year's anyone's guess.
    7AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:34
    Just purge all the Johnny's talent already.
    Stop building them a cozy little room and sucking up to them.
    8AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:35
    So pressure from the Agriculture Minister is bad pressure, but pressure from Johnny's is good pressure?
    That's insane.
    9AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:36
    Why does a self-proclaimed public broadcaster care so much about ratings?
    And what happened to all that diversity, LGBTQ, genderless stuff NHK loves to push? How much longer are they gonna keep this men-vs-women song battle format?
    10AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:36
    They call it a "song battle" but nobody's actually battling.
    They should throw rotten garbage at the other team's songs instead of clapping for them.
    14AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:39
    Re: #10-11
    In recent years the "Red Team host" and "White Team host" titles have all been unified into just "host." The cheering contests and the championship flag are gone too — the men-vs-women staging keeps getting scaled back year after year. At this rate, within a few years they'll probably scrap the win/lose system too, since that's the whole core of the format. My guess is they'll keep the "Kohaku" (red/white) name but reinterpret it as a celebratory thing rather than a gender contest, and "Gassen" (battle) as more of a festival than an actual fight — so the title survives even as the format fades away.
    11AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:36
    It's a letdown that red and white aren't actually competing for real.
    13AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:37
    Isn't there no big draw this year? What was even the hit song of the year?
    15AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:41
    Commercial networks should quit kowtowing to NHK and bring back stuff like Nippon TV's old year-end jidaigeki (period drama) specials — show some actual effort.
    16AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:41
    I wonder if Stardust's idols will fill the gap Johnny's left behind.
    17AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:42
    Re: #14
    I'd rather they made it a left-wing vs. right-wing song battle.
    61AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:24
    Re: #17
    So it'd be a sing-off between "The Internationale" and military war songs.
    18AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:42
    Don't need Johnny's.
    That's it, that's the whole point.
    Johnny's side, please just decline too.
    I'm begging you.
    22AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:48
    Surprising that Netflix — of all things, supposedly tough on crimes against children — is the one doing this.
    39AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:02
    Re: #22
    Is this actually a criminal case?
    26AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:50
    So the "strongest rival show" isn't the Takeshi, Nirasawa, and Professor Otsuki debate show after all, huh.
    63AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:27
    Re: #26
    Konto 55-Go's Yakyuken (a comedy duo's classic strip rock-paper-scissors bit).
    30AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:52
    Seriously can't think of a single hit song this year.
    Maybe "Something-Something… Metsu!" at best.
    49AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:12
    Re: #30
    It's gotta be "INMU KING."
    67AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:34
    Re: #30
    2026 Annual Single Ranking

    1st Kenshi Yonezu "IRIS OUT"
    2nd M!LK "Sukisugite Metsu!" (Too in Love I Could Die!)
    3rd Mrs. GREEN APPLE "lulu."
    4th King Gnu "AIZO"
    5th HANA "Blue Jeans"
    6th M!LK "Bakuretsu Aishiteru" (Exploding Love)
    7th HANA "ROSE"
    8th Aina the End "Kakumei Douchuu" (Revolution Road)
    9th Kenshi Yonezu, Hikaru Utada "JANE DOE"
    10th Snow Man "Charismax"
    33AnonymousOct 8, 2026 17:56
    Just put Toshi-chan and Match on Kohaku and the middle-aged crowd will be satisfied.
    And throw in a surprise final appearance from Shonentai while they're at it.
    53AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:14
    Re: #33
    Shibugakitai would work too lol
    45AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:06
    TV Tokyo's nostalgic oldies show is way more worth watching.
    72AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:41
    Re: #45
    TV Tokyo's oldies-show demographic targets around the junior baby-boomer generation — the age bracket that's still got decent population numbers.
    47AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:07
    Momoiro Clover Z's own Kohaku rival event is way more fun~

    Once the new year hits I'll just skip straight to the Momoclo stream lol
    52AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:14
    Re: #47
    Wasn't that supposed to end in the evening?
    59AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:22
    Re: #52
    You can still catch it on YouTube for a while~
    62AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:26
    Re: #52
    Pretty sure that was only last year — no idea what they're doing this year though.
    57AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:17
    Re: #1
    NHK is famous for ruthlessly cutting performers from Kohaku over even minor slip-ups, but the former Johnny's agency — now Start Entertainment — has had two members arrested this year alone: one for indecent exposure, and another for beating a woman so badly she was left bleeding.
    Surely not, but…
    NHK's always come down hard on other artists and agencies for far less — they wouldn't turn around and offer Start Entertainment a Kohaku slot just because they don't want them showing up on a rival channel instead, right?
    Surely they wouldn't do that… right?
    58AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:21
    Re: #57
    Masaharu Fukuyama: "Wait, you're cutting people over a slip of the tongue?"
    69AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:37
    Re: #67
    Rankings like this have really become meaningless.
    75AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:44
    Re: #69
    Makes you wonder what metric this ranking's even based on lol.
    If they're mixing a bunch of different metrics together, the result changes depending on the weighting — it's genuinely pointless.
    73AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:42
    Re: #67
    It's all anime and idols.
    Wish they'd exclude stuff like TikTok plays and overseas streams from the count.
    76AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:44
    Re: #73
    Make it a "Red vs. White Dance Battle."
    83AnonymousOct 8, 2026 18:58
    Re: #73
    But realistically, only songs that are already guaranteed hits get anime tie-ins these days — there's not a single old-school anison (anime theme song) among them.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    For years, Kohaku Uta Gassen has billed itself around a Red Team vs. White Team, men-vs-women format, but in recent years the hosts’ titles have been unified from “Red Team host” / “White Team host” to simply “host,” and staging elements like the cheering contests and the championship flag have been scaled back. As posters in the thread pointed out, the show’s name — “Kohaku” (red and white) and “Gassen” (battle) — appears to be shifting away from a gender-based contest and toward a more celebratory, festival-like meaning. The other major point of contention, the former Johnny’s agency, was renamed Start Entertainment following the 2023 sexual abuse scandal, and ongoing scandals involving its talent continue to fuel debate over whether its performers belong on the Kohaku stage. On top of that, the annual hit-song rankings blend multiple metrics — CD sales, streaming, and social media plays — and the thread’s complaints about not knowing “what metric” the ranking uses stem from how opaque that aggregation process is.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News Flash+) thread “[TV] Kohaku Uta Gassen’s Ratings Are Bound to Take a Hit… The “Strongest Rival Show” NHK Fears.”