Category: Sports

  • “The Coach Broke His Promise” — Cristiano Ronaldo Storms Out of Portugal Camp, Blasts Manager

    Portugal forward Cristiano Ronaldo (41) left the national team’s camp ahead of the October 1 match against Denmark and posted a statement on social media criticizing head coach Jorge Jesus. He started in September’s match against Wales but didn’t play at all in the following game against Norway, and the reported decision to start Gonçalo Ramos against Denmark is said to have been the final trigger for his departure. Ronaldo also wrote that he would “eventually tell the people the truth.” On 5ch, opinion split between posters calling the coaching staff’s handling “immature” and those questioning Ronaldo’s attitude for still expecting special treatment at 41, with the debate also drawing comparisons to other aging players like Japan’s “King Kazu” (Kazuyoshi Miura, famous for playing pro soccer into his late 50s).

    Cristiano Ronaldo, who abruptly left the Portugal national team camp, updated his social media on October 6 local time with a scathing attack on head coach Jorge Jesus.

    The 41-year-old superstar started in the September 24 UEFA Nations League match against Wales, but didn’t see the pitch at all in the September 27 match against Norway.

    Then, at the pre-match press conference ahead of the October 1 game against Denmark, coach Jorge Jesus confirmed that Gonçalo Ramos would start — and Ronaldo decided to leave the camp early. On Instagram, he wrote: “I will tell the Portuguese people the truth eventually.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:38
    Portugal's own King Kazu (a nod to Japan's Kazuyoshi Miura, the ageless pro still playing in his late 50s)
    41AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:01
    Re: #2
    Isn't he more like [Yasuhito] Endo than Kazu, though?
    3AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:40
    Honestly, comparing him to Kazu is disrespectful — their records aren't even in the same league.
    4AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:40
    Still not mellowing out at 41.
    He's done more than enough already — go be a manager at this point.
    5AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:40
    The secret to staying at the top until age 41:
    Never grow up.
    7AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:41
    He's stronger than Geese (Howard, the Fatal Fury/KOF character known for raw power) — he could make a living as a fighter.
    8AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:42
    The real villain here is the Portuguese federation, still leaning on Ronaldo to put butts in seats after all this time.
    9AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:43
    The coach actually said some conciliatory things, so from the outside you'd think, come on, be the bigger person here.
    12AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:44
    "Why are you going home?" (riffing on a stock meme phrasing — "why are you doing X?")
    25AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:52
    Re: #12
    You kind of want the coach to be the one saying this, lol.
    13AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:45
    His trapping and dribbling are both terrible, and yet he built all of this on physicality and positioning alone — that's genuinely incredible.
    17AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:49
    Re: #13
    Back in his Man United days he used to blow right past defenders with his dribbling.
    60AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:14
    Re: #13
    Spoken like a bandwagon fan. He actually broke onto the scene because of his dribbling in the first place.
    14AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:45
    "Why are you laughing?" (same meme template as the "why are you going home" line above)
    15AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:47
    Never expected Messi and Ronaldo's fortunes to diverge this much.
    16AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:47
    Argentina stayed Messi's team right to the end, but Portugal was already treating Ronaldo like damaged goods by the World Cup.
    Somebody just needs to tell him straight that he's not needed anymore.
    20AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:50
    The team belongs to the coach.
    No player should be bigger than the team.
    32AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:57
    Re: #20
    Well, there are plenty of cases where a coach clashes with a player and ends up the one getting sacked, so that's not always true.
    21AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:51
    No different from Trump — self-confidence maxed all the way out.
    22AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:52
    Even back in his Real Madrid days, he was a winger who scored goals — nothing more.
    23AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:52
    Messi's what, about two years younger, and he's already retired from the national team.
    Honestly, it's better if he's not around anymore either.
    29AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:54
    https://x.com/TrollFootball/status/2107716300873093461
    Footage of the Portugal squad training after Ronaldo left camp.
    They look weirdly upbeat and like they're having a blast, which lines up with how well the team's been playing lately — easy to picture Ronaldo having been poison for the locker room and on the pitch.
    66AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:19
    Re: #29
    Wait, is Vitinha the one getting bullied there? Yeah, [Bernardo] Silva and Gonçalo [Ramos] really do look like they're enjoying themselves.
    33AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:57
    Honestly Ronaldo had every right to blow up over this — the coach is just awful.
    39AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:00
    Re: #33
    Fine, blow up if you want.

    But don't blow up and go home — that's just immature.
    44AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:01
    International Match Week feature:
    Humans and an AI separately picked the top 5 players of the 21st century for each continent — here are the results:

    69AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:21
    Re: #44
    Maybe the human picks are just too generous — feel bad for [Shinji] Kagawa and [Mark] Viduka missing out — but no continent's list really swings that wildly either way.
    74AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:30
    Re: #44
    CONCACAF (North/Central America) still feels like a work in progress — a lineup you can't really pass judgment on yet.
    81AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:41
    Re: #44
    Zidane, the "chubby" Ronaldo (the original Brazilian Ronaldo, nicknamed for his build), Nakata, Daei — wasn't the 20th century really the peak?
    46AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:02
    Guess he's fully planning to play again next time too, since Portugal will be in it.
    59AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:11
    Re: #46
    Didn't he say back in June that this would be his "last World Cup"?
    Just when we thought we'd finally gotten rid of him, he's still here?
    53AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:08
    So which one of them is actually the "rōgai" here?
    58AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:11
    Re: #53
    "Rōgai" means a harmful old-timer holding things back. By any reasonable measure, Jesus is a competent coach.
    56AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:10
    Who you start or benches is going to keep changing depending on how the match is going, right?
    Does he really have to make — and then keep — a promise about that every single time?
    77AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:34
    Re: #56
    Exactly — since that's always going to be the case, the coach just shouldn't have made that promise in the first place.
    57AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:11
    Just retire already.
    Who do you think you are, Kazu?
    72AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:27
    Re: #57
    Kazu would never pull something this childish. Even when he's not playing, he fully commits to the "panda" role (quietly accepting mascot/bench duty without complaint).

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    The reported trigger for the walkout was a reversal in his playing time: after starting against Wales on September 24, Ronaldo got no minutes at all against Norway on the 27th, and then the coaching staff confirmed young forward Gonçalo Ramos would start against Denmark on October 1. Ronaldo’s statement included the line “this makes twice now,” hinting at an earlier dispute over similar selection decisions — though the thread never gets into the specifics of that history. Where the thread split was over how a 41-year-old should be treated this late in his career: one side focused on the coach going back on his word, the other called Ronaldo’s decision to leave camp without rejoining the squad immature. Worth noting, and not obvious from the quoted article alone, is that Ronaldo reportedly said back in June that this would be his “last World Cup” — meaning his own retirement plans are part of the backdrop to this whole episode.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Soccer] “The Coach Broke His Promise” — Ronaldo’s Furious Statement After Abruptly Leaving Camp, Blasts Portugal Manager: “This Makes Twice Now”.”

  • New Stadium Upkeep Costs: “The Club Should Pay,” Says Akita Mayor — 5ch: “Even the Mainichi Is Calling It a ‘Tax League’ Now”

    On the 7th, Akita Mayor Jun Numatani reiterated his stance that “the club should cover the maintenance and management costs” for the new stadium of J2 side Blaublitz Akita. The August council session, which closed the same day, passed a supplementary budget bill that included funding for drafting a basic plan for the new stadium. On 5ch, alongside discussion of how J.League stadiums are often funded by municipalities covering not just construction costs but even day-to-day operating costs, it became a talking point that the Mainichi Shimbun itself had used the critical term “tax league.” Opinions were also divided over the fact that general public use will be restricted to preserve the natural grass, and over whether regional cities even have the capacity to sustain professional sports at all.

    On the 7th, Akita Mayor Jun Numatani once again emphasized that “the club should cover the maintenance and management costs” for the new stadium that will serve as the home of J2 side Blaublitz Akita.

    At Akita City’s August council session, which closed on the 7th, the city’s FY2025 settlement of accounts was approved, and a supplementary budget bill was passed covering the Sotoasahikawa district development project, the cost of drafting a basic plan for the new stadium, and the cost of revising the basic plan for redeveloping the wholesale market.

    Mayor Jun Numatani:

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:49
    Well, it's a tax league, so what do you expect?
    4AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:50
    They can't even scrape together the 500 million yen for design costs, and he's already hammering on about what comes next lol
    6AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:51
    Weird that something this obvious is even news
    7AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:51
    If Akita has money to build a soccer stadium, they should spend more on the aquarium instead
    21AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:11
    Toward a New Stadium for J2 Akita: Club-Led Funding Is the Key


    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/276940a809c8eb26fda2dc9008b77fa058cc1ce7
    In J.League stadium projects funded by public money, an unbridgeable gap is showing up nationwide between municipalities with strained finances due to population decline and a J.League that demands high-standard facilities. Critical opinions calling it the "tax league" remain persistent on social media.

    Sad news: now even the Mainichi is calling it the tax league
    23AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:17
    Re: #21
    So even the Mainichi is calling it the 'tax league' now, huh
    25AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:18
    Re: #21
    Somebody start a whole thread over this lol
    71AnonymousOct 7, 2026 23:22
    Re: #21
    Should be nominated for Buzzword of the Year (Japan's annual award for trending slang)
    22AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:16
    They get over 20 million yen in subsidies just to barely scrape by in the black,
    and on top of that their corporate tax payment is actually negative.

    They're probably not even paying proper usage fees
    38AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:47
    Re: #22
    "You guys are a tax league."

    The previous chairman is the one who let that phrase loose in the first place lol lol lol
    26AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:20
    >Governor Suzuki said, "By introducing turf that holds up well to foot traffic,
    >we expect general public use to be possible for roughly 80 to 130 days a year."

    In cold-climate Akita, of all places?
    At a "tax stadium" with a running track that has no open buffer zone to let sunlight in, and where the roof's shadow causes sunlight problems?
    Sounds like BS
    40AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:49
    Re: #26
    I think they mean Kentucky bluegrass — that's a cold-climate turf.
    It's cold-hardy, resilient, and highly durable against wear, but it's extremely weak against heat
    29AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:31
    If the club is footing the maintenance costs, does that mean the stadium belongs to the club?
    33AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:40
    Re: #29
    Natural grass upkeep is only there for the J.League's sake, so the message is basically "you pay for it yourselves"
    30AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:34
    So basically it's exclusively for Blaublitz? General public use is completely off-limits?
    31AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:35
    Re: #30
    Since the natural grass has to be maintained,
    the general public can't use it
    44AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:53
    Watching this unfold, I'm starting to think Akita City has lost its mind.
    Why does a private club have to maintain a municipal facility? If you don't like it, just don't build it.
    There's no actual need to build it — if you don't like the terms, don't build it, period.
    Stirring up controversy for attention like this is going to come back and bite them someday.

    Honestly, Akita should just quit the J.League entirely.
    A municipality that trash-talks a specific organization like this has no business being in football.
    The J.League gets along fine without Akita anyway,
    and there are plenty of other regions with stadiums already hoping for promotion.
    If all you're going to do is bash them, don't build it. Seriously — don't build it
    46AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:58
    Re: #44
    Because of a certain team in Kanagawa, everyone already knows that even if you threaten to "relocate!" there's no city willing to take you in.
    It'll just end with everyone saying "sure, go ahead, be our guest."
    47AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:58
    Re: #44
    Must be so frustrating, huh lol lol lol (a mocking, taunting stock phrase)
    49AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:59
    Re: #44
    I doubt any municipality out there actually wants to take in Blaublitz, but sure, go ahead.
    The Nippon-Ham Fighters did move out to Kitahiroshima, after all
    60AnonymousOct 7, 2026 23:09
    Not to be harsh, but don't rural areas just not need pro sports?
    It's hopeless — these cities don't have the foundation for it to begin with
    62AnonymousOct 7, 2026 23:13
    Re: #60
    Isn't this a prefecture with a pointless surplus of baseball stadiums?
    Might as well keep chasing after pro franchises forever lol
    67AnonymousOct 7, 2026 23:16
    Re: #60
    Exactly.
    Looking at the J.League, it just looks like a broken system.
    Even with stadium usage fees waived or cut, and construction and repairs handled by local government — getting the equivalent of hundreds of millions of yen in backing every single year — almost no clubs turn a profit, since it all gets poured into player salaries.
    That's why even J1 clubs are only valued at a few hundred million to a bit over a billion yen.
    There's no other way to describe it — it's finished
    84AnonymousOct 7, 2026 23:29
    Why does such an obvious statement even count as news?
    86AnonymousOct 7, 2026 23:30
    Re: #84
    It's the J.League and the Japan Football Association who don't get something this obvious

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The “tax league” criticism aimed at stadium development isn’t unique to Akita — it’s a pattern playing out at J.League clubs nationwide, rooted in a mismatch between municipalities squeezed financially by population decline and a J.League that demands facilities meeting a certain standard. This case stands out because the Akita mayor took the opposite tack, asking the club itself to cover maintenance costs — an unusual stance, given that municipalities more often end up shouldering operating costs on top of construction costs. The thread blends a practical argument — that natural-grass upkeep makes general public access difficult — with a more emotional one about whether pro sports can even survive in regional cities, both recurring patterns on 5ch. The discussion centers on whether making the stadium club-exclusive is justified and on doubts about profitability, and contains no baseless accusations against any specific individual or company.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread “[Soccer] New Stadium: Akita Mayor Numatani Reiterates “The Club Should Cover Maintenance Costs” — Related Budget Bill Passed.”

  • Doubts Over Kubo-Doan Coexistence: 5ch Says ‘No Wonder the Middle’s a Traffic Jam’

    In the Kirin Cup 2026 final against New Zealand on the 5th, Japan switched formations from a 3-4-2-1 to a 4-2-3-1, fielding Ritsu Doan and Takefusa Kubo together. Since both are left-footed players who specialize in taking on defenders, a footballchannel article pointed out that their overlapping styles clog up the center, and the discussion spread on 5ch as well. In the thread, opinions ranged from formation arguments like “Junya Ito should be the focal point” and “Kubo suits the attacking midfield role, but Ayase Ueda already occupies it” to evaluations of the two players’ abilities themselves.

    Japan’s national team took on New Zealand in the Kirin Cup Soccer 2026 final on the 5th using a 4-2-3-1 rather than their usual 3-4-2-1, and there were several points worth noting. One of them was the coexistence of Ritsu Doan and Takefusa Kubo. Both possess real skill, but when asked whether this will become a major weapon going forward, a question mark remains.

    The Doan-Kubo combination is…

    Doan and Kubo have long supported Moriyasu’s Japan side, showing combination play on the pitch many times.

    Source: footballchannel.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:42
    Kind of like Messi and Dybala?
    8AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:46
    Should've just gone with Doan at attacking mid and Ito on the right like normal.
    Kubo's shaky even as a sub right now.
    9AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:47
    While those two are fiddling around together, Ito just goes forward alone and creates chances.
    Night and day difference in efficiency.
    10AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:47
    They should just put Kubo up front.
    Don't let him drop deep — pin him out wide as a target for keeper Suzuki's long kicks and everything's solved.
    14AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:50
    Re: #10
    He fumbles the trap on Ito's switch of play.
    He can only handle short passes right to his feet.
    21AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:55
    Re: #10
    He's not worth just parking up front.
    Only about 5 players in the world are allowed to play that way.
    Right now Kubo wouldn't crack the top 500, let alone the top 50…
    11AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:49
    True.
    Kubo is a disaster on the left.
    Kubo's an attacking midfielder.
    But that spot belongs to the immovable striker Ayase Ueda.
    Moriyasu knows this too, which is why he's started experimenting with a four-back, two-striker setup.
    13AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:50
    Both Kubo and Doan are 'sponsor picks' who can't be dropped from the starting lineup,
    so they're being forced in together.
    15AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:50
    Well, these two did do well in the Netherlands match.
    16AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:52
    For the Asian Cup, alternating between an A-team and a B-team would be fine.
    I want them to build a squad with real depth.
    17AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:53
    People have been pointing this out for a while.
    Doan and Kubo are both 'fiddly dribbler' types — they look like a good fit at a glance, but most of the time they just dribble around each other in a tight space and nothing comes of it.
    It doesn't suit the current squad's traits or Moriyasu's team.
    That's a waste of time.
    19AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:55
    This has been said for a while now.
    They just play way too close together.
    20AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:55
    The attacking midfielder role itself isn't even needed anymore.
    In four years neither of them will be around.
    22AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:56
    Doan could never pull off a play like this
    29AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:00
    Re: #22
    This one's gonna get replayed forever.
    It's the play that defines Kubo.
    27AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:58
    Honestly, wouldn't just not calling up Kubo solve this?
    28AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:59
    Kubo and Doan just fiddle around without ever breaking through vertically — they just clog things up.
    Junya Ito can carry the ball forward alone with ease, so the right side comes alive.
    30AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:01
    The thing is, Kubo can't even drive forward and he's way too short on end product.
    31AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:01
    Left-footed Kubo out on the right wing,
    right-footed Daizen (Maeda) out on the left wing —
    no wonder the middle's a complete traffic jam.
    32AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:02
    With a back four, it all comes down to how well the fullbacks link up with these two.
    63AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:32
    Re: #32
    You don't need both of them then lol
    Honestly, you don't need either one.
    36AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:07
    Just use one of them.
    What's with this whole 'coexistence' thing?
    73AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:43
    Re: #36
    If they overlap, why not just split them between first half and second half?
    37AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:08
    Japan's stronger right now just pumping crosses into the box.
    Teams have scouted Kubo and Doan —
    they're being defended by cutting off the middle and just letting them cross with the right foot.
    The buildup dying on the right is hilarious lol
    Last time the left died too, with Maeda, lol
    41AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:11
    Re: #37
    And Ueda, who those crosses go to, can win aerial duels even against tough foreign center-backs.
    40AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:10
    Using Ito from the first half doesn't work as well though.
    It's not that simple.
    66AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:35
    Re: #40
    Huh? Do you know how many results he's delivered as a starter?
    42AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:12
    I wish Kubo would stop doing those little fiddly steps that just give the opposing defense time to reorganize.
    52AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:19
    Re: #42
    Why doesn't anyone — teammates or coaches, at Sociedad or the national team — point that out to him?
    Still baffles me.
    62AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:32
    Someone like Yamal is fast, great at making runs in behind, and when a chance opens up he'll instantly flick a pass with the outside of his foot — he's even added new dribbling touch patterns this year and keeps evolving. Meanwhile Kubo's just been doing the same fiddly moves for years. You really feel the gap in talent.
    76AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:45
    Re: #62
    Kubo only has one move, relying purely on a burst of speed.
    His bag of tricks hasn't grown at all as he's gotten older.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The 4-2-3-1 Japan used in the Kirin Cup 2026 final against New Zealand has only one attacking-midfield slot, making how to fit in both Takefusa Kubo and Ritsu Doan a key point of attention. The two have played together for Moriyasu’s Japan since their Tokyo Olympics generation, but since both are left-footed players who specialize in cutting inside, the original article argued that placing them on the same side or in the same attacking-mid role tends to cancel out their strengths. The thread was split over the direction of the fix: whether to give up on the pairing altogether and build around Junya Ito, or whether adjusting positioning and sides could let both play together. It’s worth noting this is only a discussion about the formation for this one match, not a suggestion that the two will be dropped from the national team entirely — a point that’s easy to misread.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “[Soccer] Is it difficult for Japan’s national team to have Takefusa Kubo and Ritsu Doan coexist? “Improvisation” alone can’t break defenses down — the limits of the left-footed duo“.

  • Akita’s New Stadium: Mayor Wants to Verify Usage-Day Estimates — 5ch Reacts: “Just Looking for Reasons Not to Build It?”

    The Akita mayor’s remark that “we need to verify whether the estimated number of general-use days [for the new stadium] really holds up” regarding Blaublitz Akita’s new stadium plan has become a hot topic on 5ch. The thread also cited a survey showing that, amid steep water rate hikes and cuts to public facilities in Akita City, 47.6% of residents said they’d be willing to pay only up to 100 yen (roughly 65 cents) more in taxes for it. Opinions in the thread split over how to secure funding, and over whether the mayoral election result can really be read as “public opposition to the stadium.”

    1AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:20
    "We need to make sure this isn't just counting unhatched chickens."
    Is this guy some kind of J.League hater?
    2AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:21
    Feels like this guy's turned 'not building the stadium' into the actual goal at this point.
    48AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:45
    Re: #2
    Of course he has, it was his campaign pledge.
    'No stadium' is the will of the people.
    5AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:23
    The stadium fundraiser has pulled in 15 million yen since March — let's just build the thing already.
    55AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:48
    Re: #5
    Lol that's short by about three zeros.
    6AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:23
    Re: #1-3
    Of course they're going to scrutinize it when they're being asked to pour huge sums of city tax money into it.
    Why should tax money go toward a facility that's just for some pro sports business anyway?
    7AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:24
    Re: #6
    What about the economic impact?
    Akita's done for without facilities that draw in outside visitors anyway.
    10AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:25
    Re: #7
    Does the J.League really pull in that many outside visitors though?
    There are only about 20 games a year, and depending on the opponent, away fans can number under a thousand.
    9AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:25
    Re: #7
    Oh, there's already a plan to build a big data center, so we're fine.
    11AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:26
    Re: #9
    That won't create jobs though.
    14AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:27
    Re: #11
    If that doesn't count, the J.League's even worse then.
    91AnonymousOct 7, 2026 19:10
    Re: #11
    They're not going to hire anyone anyway.
    20AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:31
    Just looking for reasons not to build it.
    Piling impossible demands on the operators, like "go raise the money yourselves."
    What is this, the Tale of Princess Kaguya? (she famously gave suitors impossible tasks to drive them away)
    24AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:32
    Re: #20
    People are starting to quietly sense this is just a search for reasons not to build it.
    26AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:33
    Re: #20
    Why does it have to be Akita City building it in the first place?
    33AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:36
    Re: #20
    It's the J.League and Blaublitz making the unreasonable demand here — telling a cash-strapped municipality to build it.
    29AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:35
    Re: #26
    C'mon 😅 it's Akita's team, right?
    It'd be weird if they played out of a stadium in Naha.
    Think about it for a second.
    35AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:37
    Re: #29
    Are J.League players civil servants or something?
    At this rate it just becomes an argument that Akita doesn't need a team at all.
    36AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:38
    Re: #29
    ???
    It's not a club run by the city, what are you even talking about?
    37AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:38
    Re: #33
    No, the money's actually there.
    40AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:40
    Re: #37
    There's so little money they're even decommissioning prefectural roads.
    41AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:40
    Re: #37
    "First Hike in 31 Years, Average 32% Increase — Why Did Akita City Go Through with a Major Water Rate Hike? The Water Utility Crisis Driven by Population Decline, Aging Infrastructure, and Rising Prices"

    'The money's there' 🤔 what is this guy even saying
    38AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:39
    Re: #35
    Don't start spouting nonsense about civil servants.
    Whose tax money do you think paid for your school and the roads you use?
    They're just trying to do the obvious thing — use everyone's taxes to make everyone happy.
    42AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:41
    Re: #38
    So the people of Akita Prefecture are saying it won't make everyone happy, which means it's unnecessary.
    End of discussion.
    44AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:43
    Re: #42
    Prefecture residents are political amateurs though.
    The question is which is more credible — that, or experts saying it'll make people happy if they build it.
    60AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:50
    Re: #44
    This exact kind of condescending attitude is precisely what people hate.
    Since it's tax money, of course you can't ignore voters' wishes, and if it's for the public good, the obvious first step is persuading residents and building understanding.
    You can't just skip that and expect "we're building it for you, so be grateful and pay up" to fly.
    64AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:53
    Re: #44
    Prefecture (city) residents be like: "But you guys don't even pay taxes in Akita, you don't even live here."
    69AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:54
    "Those without fighting spirit, leave."
    Akita Prefecture, the local business community, and the club have all done their best up to now.
    That should be enough.
    Anyone who disrupts Akita's unity and drags others down should step aside immediately.
    As someone born and raised in Akita City, I find this shameful, but it can't be helped.
    Let's look for another path that doesn't rely on Akita City taking the lead.
    It's not just the prefecture and the club, the two of them alone.
    Momentum is building day by day.
    A train that's already left the station can't be stopped.
    Let's rally the combined strength of everyone connected to Akita and make the new stadium happen, no matter what.
    We will never give up.

    https://x.com/8uo5hmedwq4vbas/status/2026266808983126213
    71AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:55
    Re: #69
    A wonderful aspiration.
    76AnonymousOct 7, 2026 18:59
    Re: #69
    Well then, how about you put your own money up?
    Stadiums don't get built on good intentions.
    79AnonymousOct 7, 2026 19:01
    Re: #69
    That'd be a total win for Akita City.
    You're covering the land costs too, right?
    83AnonymousOct 7, 2026 19:03
    Survey of Akita Prefecture residents
    How much additional tax would you be willing to pay for the stadium?
    100 yen (~65 cents): 47.6%

    87AnonymousOct 7, 2026 19:06
    Re: #83
    This isn't "only 47.6% of prefecture residents are willing to pay 100 yen." It's a survey where 2,060 households were split into 10 groups, and of the roughly 206 households that were actually presented with the 100-yen figure, 47.6% agreed. And it's from March 2025, before the current project proposal even existed. Cherry-picking the number like that is just misleading.
    88AnonymousOct 7, 2026 19:07
    Re: #83
    Lol, even a measly 100-yen barrel donation (a common street-collection method at Japanese sports events) gets rejected by half the city's residents.
    If it were the Carp in Hiroshima, like 80% of people would toss in 100 yen lol
    94AnonymousOct 7, 2026 19:12
    I'm an Akita City resident, but between public facility closures and suspensions, water rate hikes, and reduced, pricier train and bus service, Akita City simply doesn't have the money to build something like a stadium.
    And the will of the residents who gave this mayor a landslide win was 'no stadium' to begin with.
    107AnonymousOct 7, 2026 19:17
    Re: #94
    A mayoral election is a vote on city governance as a whole, not a referendum on the stadium specifically. "The mayor won, therefore opposing the stadium is the will of the people" is a stretch.
    109AnonymousOct 7, 2026 19:19
    Re: #107
    Not even willing to pay 100 yen for soccer — that's the will of the people in Akita right there.
    115AnonymousOct 7, 2026 19:19
    Re: #107
    I'm an Akita City resident, and the stadium issue was literally the central issue in this mayoral election.
    101AnonymousOct 7, 2026 19:16
    Re: #98
    In Nagasaki, the parent company funded it themselves to the tune of 100 billion yen.
    102AnonymousOct 7, 2026 19:16
    Re: #101
    Sounds great.
    Akita should just do the same thing then.
    108AnonymousOct 7, 2026 19:18
    Re: #102
    But then the club stops belonging to the citizens and becomes just like pro baseball.
    It's either cooperate with the municipality, or have a company own it outright — and companies willing to do that are rare.
    112AnonymousOct 7, 2026 19:19
    Re: #108
    Lol, calling it "the citizens'" when it's a private company.
    So if they win a championship, are the prize winnings split equally among the citizens? No, obviously not.
    127AnonymousOct 7, 2026 19:23
    Re: #108
    Lol, suddenly pivoting the Nagasaki example over to baseball.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Underlying this debate is a structural issue: for regional clubs, building a home stadium tends to be directly tied to municipal finances. In Akita City, tight finances were already in the spotlight — water rates were hiked by an average of 32%, the first increase in 31 years — and cautious voices dominate when it comes to taking on extra costs for a new stadium. The thread split over whether the mayoral election result can be read as “the will of the people opposing the stadium,” with some pointing out that a mayoral race is a vote on city governance overall, not a single-issue referendum. There was also a correction to the survey result cited as “47.6% willing to pay only 100 yen more” — it turned out to be a partial sample survey from March 2025, taken before the current project proposal was even presented, a reminder to be careful about how such numbers get cherry-picked. Comparisons were also drawn to Nagasaki’s stadium, which was built with the parent company’s own funds, though the discussion never got into how the underlying ownership structures differ (municipal-partnership model vs. corporate-owned model).

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyou G) thread “Akita Mayor: “We need to verify whether the J.League stadium’s general-use days really match the estimate”.”

  • Yuka Kageyama Stunned by Her First-Ever Commentary Booth — It Had a ‘Shoten’-Style Spinning Chair

    On October 5, Japan’s national team defeated New Zealand 2-1 in the Kirin Cup final, claiming their 12th title and first in 15 years. The live broadcast on TV Asahi became a hot topic when Yuka Kageyama, known for her love of soccer, sat in the commentary booth for the first time in her life — and revealed that her chair was designed like the spinning seats from the popular variety show ‘Shoten.’ On 5ch, opinions were divided: some praised her as ‘cute,’ while others voiced sharp criticism over a TV personality occupying a commentary slot and pointed out her past verbal slip-ups.

    Yuka Kageyama stunned during Japan’s national soccer match: “I thought it was a dream — in more ways than one.” Her first-ever commentary seat was a hilarious ‘Shoten-style’ setup — “What is even happening here?” “Yamada-kun, bring the cushion…!”

    On October 5, Japan’s national soccer team defeated New Zealand 2-1 in the Kirin Cup final at MUFG National Stadium, winning their 12th title and first in 15 years.

    In the live broadcast on the TV Asahi network, the soccer-loving actress who drew attention during the North/Central America World Cup shared exclusive behind-the-scenes footage.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:42
    https://up.gc-img.net/post_img/2026/06/5FzvyPlvaep5Kbk_sL3m6_60.jpeg
    28AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:52
    Re: #3
    Something scary about these two
    8AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:44
    Don't know much about her, but isn't she the one with an IQ high enough to join Mensa? Or am I thinking of someone else?
    69AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:41
    Re: #8
    Not sure about the IQ, but she graduated from a Tsukuba University affiliated school, so she's definitely top-tier smart.
    9AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:44
    I'm a baseball fan ('yakibuta' — soccer fans' derisive nickname for us), but I'll give credit where it's due: Kageyama Yuka really is cute.
    11AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:45
    Re: #1
    Aren't they hyping this girl up a bit too much?
    12AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:45
    Kageyama's probably after Tomiyasu, but
    thanks to 'Main' (her nickname), the bar for dating a national team player just got even higher.
    19AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:48
    Re: #12
    Look at it from another angle —
    thanks to 'Main', the value of being a national team player just went up even more,
    that's the take.
    21AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:49
    Re: #12
    Japanese people have only ever been fed restrictive, slave-like language since compulsory education onward,
    so they've picked up negative phrasing and end up strangling themselves with it.
    14AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:46
    As long as it's not a stacking chair with casters, it just barely passes.
    15AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:46
    She's basically taken over the entire 'female soccer talent' slot.
    16AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:46
    This dumb girl said stuff like this at halftime:
    'Their long-cherished opening goal~' (should be 'long-awaited')
    'It's a 0-0 draw so far' (should be 'tied' — the match wasn't over yet)
    17AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:47
    Thinking about how it'd look on TV from the outside,
    that's probably why they went with this kind of setup.
    18AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:48
    Okay, I think we're done with this girl
    the World Cup's over, so next she should go do baseball.
    23AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:50
    Re: #18
    Baseball's already covered by Nogizaka46 —
    they've got a member getting coached by Satozaki and Komiyama.
    25AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:50
    Re: #18
    For baseball, go with Makino Maria instead.
    22AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:50
    Isn't this woman going to marry a soccer player or something?
    55AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:28
    Re: #22
    Aren't they already dating or something? lol
    83AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:07
    Re: #22
    Why do soccer players always end up with celebrities?
    Japanese soccer won't get stronger unless the players marry athletes instead.
    30AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:53
    Well, I doubt the chair manufacturer wanted it used like this lol
    38AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:11
    Kageyama-chan really is cute
    https://soccerdigestweb.thedigestweb.com/v=1791207854/files/topics/198081_ext_01_1.jpg
    40AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:14
    I first found out about her from some show where she and Ucchi were walking around town together, just the two of them —
    she was all over Ucchi and seemed like exactly the type other women would hate.
    During the commentary, a lot of middle-aged guys seemed to be projecting themselves onto Ucchi and getting excited, so she'll probably go over well with men.
    45AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:15
    Re: #40
    Women's jealousy is way too scary, man.
    47AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:19
    Re: #40
    Being hated by middle-aged Uchida fangirls probably doesn't bother her one bit.
    92AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:51
    Re: #40
    'Her favorite reads are Josei Jishin and FLASH' (Japanese gossip tabloids) —
    okay, that's as far as I read. (internet meme for 'not reading further')
    76AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:49
    Honestly, her highlight commentary during halftime was pretty good.
    Wait, is she being bundled as a package deal with Uchida or something?
    These two have basically been a duo ever since the World Cup.
    89AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:31
    Re: #76
    They're business partners who've appeared together like 100 times, mostly on DAZN and TV Asahi.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Yuka Kageyama is a soccer-loving TV personality who drew attention during coverage of the North/Central America World Cup, and this was her first time doing commentary for a Japan national team match. The ‘Shoten-style’ refers to the rotating cushion seats used by panelists on the popular variety show ‘Shoten,’ and because the commentary booth’s chair closely resembled it, jokes about the cushions spread throughout the thread. Opinions in the thread were split because comments praising her soccer knowledge and personality clashed with ones criticizing the practice of giving commentary slots to TV personalities and pointing to past verbal slip-ups (such as saying ‘draw’ instead of ‘tied’). Though not mentioned in the article itself, bringing celebrities onto sports broadcasts has become increasingly common in recent years, and this is one example of the recurring debate over how that role should be divided with professional commentators.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geinou Sports Hayabusa+) thread ‘[Entertainment] Yuka Kageyama stunned — during Japan’s national soccer match: “I thought it was a dream, in more ways than one” — her first-ever commentary seat was a hilarious ‘Shoten’-style setup.’

  • Top 5 Boxing Manga? 5ch Erupts Over That One Impossible Final Slot

    A thread titled “What are the top 5 boxing manga?” went up on 5ch and pulled in 41 replies. Most posters agreed that *Ashita no Joe*, *Ganbare Genki*, *Ring ni Kakero*, and *Hajime no Ippo* were near-locks for four of the five spots, but the final slot sparked chaos, with candidates like *Kamisama wa Southpaw*, *Nozomi♡Witches*, *BB*, and *Youki na Kamome* all thrown into the ring with no consensus in sight. Standout replies dug into the weeds — comparing volume counts, arguing that Rikiishi Toru’s death was really caused by his brutal weight-cutting rather than the fight itself, and a former gym regular testifying to just how popular *Ganbare Genki* was on the inside.

    1AnonymousOct 6, 2026 16:42
    Which of these have you actually read?
    2AnonymousOct 6, 2026 16:45
    Ashita no Joe
    Ganbare Genki
    Ring ni Kakero
    BB
    5AnonymousOct 6, 2026 16:55
    Ashita no Joe
    Ganbare Genki
    Age
    One-Pound Gospel
    Champ
    SUGAR
    RIN
    6AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:00
    Caught an Ashita no Joe rerun over a decade ago. Apparently it's so packed with words that would never air by today's standards that the audio kept getting cut, and I couldn't even tell what anyone was saying lol
    9AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:02
    I always figured Joe's punches in Ashita no Joe were so insane they basically killed Rikiishi, even though Joe lost that fight — but thinking about it now, Rikiishi had cut an absurd amount of weight beforehand, so that's probably what actually did it.
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:03
    What about Todoroke! Ichiban, the one that ran in CoroCoro?
    12AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:04
    Re: #10
    That's like calling Dokaben a judo manga.
    11AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:04
    Taiyo Matsumoto's ZERO is so cool.
    13AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:05
    I loved "Taro," the one from Young Sunday.
    31AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:53
    Re: #13
    I've got the collected volumes.
    14AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:06
    The boxing arc in Aishiteru is good too.
    15AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:08
    BB bit off way more than it could chew.
    37AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:56
    Re: #15
    It left way too strong an impression as a mercenary manga.
    16AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:10
    Sugar and RIN both got a little cameo from a Hello! Project member (Sonin, specifically).
    17AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:10
    That one, Rokudenashi Blues — by Maeda Daison.
    18AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:11
    No doubt about it, Ashita no Joe is head and shoulders above the rest as the masterpiece.
    21AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:17
    Don't remember Nozomi Witches all that well, but personally I don't think it was that great. The stronger the hero got at boxing, the less of the actual "Nozomi" there was to it.
    44AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:04
    Re: #21
    It's good right up until he turns pro and wins the Japanese title.
    23AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:21
    What about Kamen Boxer (Masked Boxer)?
    32AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:53
    Re: #23
    It wraps up nicely in one volume. Shimamoto-sensei also drew Challenger, a more straightforward boxing manga.
    24AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:22
    The Kokuden Punch from Honoo no Tenkousei came to mind, but now that I think about it, that wasn't even a boxing manga, was it?
    30AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:41
    Geni Kasuri is actually pretty solid — might sneak into the top 5.
    34AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:54
    There's one called Youki na Kamome (The Cheerful Seagull), you know.
    35AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:54
    Re: #34
    Yeah, the hero's an ex-pickpocket.
    38AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:57
    Fighting Cook
    Pit Bull

    Both by the same author, Adachi Tsuyoshi.
    39AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:58
    Volume counts:

    Hajime no Ippo (Weekly Shonen Magazine) — 145 volumes
    Nozomi♡Witches (Weekly Young Jump) — 48 volumes
    Ring ni Kakero (Weekly Shonen Jump) — 25 volumes
    Ashita no Joe (Weekly Shonen Magazine) — 20 volumes
    Kamisama wa Southpaw (Weekly Shonen Jump) — 12 volumes
    40AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:59
    Joe
    Genki
    Rinkake
    Ippo ← doesn't look like it'll ever end, but
    that last slot really is the hard part
    41AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:02
    It's a shame Chiba Akio's Champ was left unfinished.
    42AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:03
    That fight in Ganbare Genki where Genki awakens against his rival Kazan and knocks him out cold with a rush, ending Kazan's career on the spot, was brutal. Rising Fighter Takeru has a similar beat where the hero awakens and beats a technically superior rival into a career-ending pulp.
    43AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:03
    Isn't the Gangoose creator doing a boxing manga right now?
    45AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:05
    There was also Toughness Daichi. Youki na Kamome actually gets pretty serious about the boxing.
    46AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:05
    The boxing manga by the Major guy wasn't it lol. All anyone remembers is the fat heroine.
    47AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:09
    Ashita no Joe, Ganbare Genki, Ring ni Kakero, Hajime no Ippo — those four are locked in, but that last one's tough.
    48AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:10
    I used to box, and Ganbare Genki was by far the most popular one at the gym.
    51AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:13
    Re: #48
    What's great is how lived-in the opponents feel — except for the prodigy Kaido and Seki Kenji.
    49AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:11
    Is there even such a thing as a sci-fi boxing manga lol. There was one as an anime, though.
    52AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:14
    Boxing's probably got more manga than any other combat sport. There are likely more than twice as many boxing titles as judo ones.
    53AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:14
    Isn't Ring ni Kakero basically a fantasy manga by this point?
    56AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:15
    Re: #53
    It was a straightforward boxing manga right up until the boomerangs showed up.
    58AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:16
    The manga that exists to sell Apollo Exercisers and Power Wrist/Power Ankle weights.
    59AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:18
    Heh… Kurumada's gift for salesmanship truly knows no bounds…

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    In Ashita no Joe, Rikiishi Toru’s death after the match is portrayed as a direct result of exhaustion from extreme weight-cutting — a scene widely seen as reflecting the real risks of boxing’s weigh-in culture. While the thread reached near-unanimous agreement on four titles, including Ganbare Genki, Ring ni Kakero, and Hajime no Ippo, commenters pointed out that Masami Kurumada’s Ring ni Kakero drifts increasingly into fantasy territory in its later volumes, introducing signature moves like literal boomerangs — which split opinion on just how far it could still count as a “straightforward boxing manga.” The fifth slot likely went unresolved in part because which titles feel essential depends heavily on which generation of readers you ask.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Top 5 Boxing Manga: Hajime no Ippo, Ashita no Joe, Kamisama wa Southpaw, Nozomi♡Witches, Ring ni Kakero.”

  • Swimming classes vanishing from elementary, middle, and high schools — 5ch: “Even the summer pool-access-for-students thing is gone now”

    A thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board took up the topic of shrinking school swimming classes. School pools only get used for a few months each summer, yet they’re costly to maintain and labor-intensive to run, and lessons are often cancelled due to water temperature or weather. The thread split between posters saying “high schools never had pools to begin with” and others saying “mine did,” revealing a gap that can’t be chalked up to city vs. countryside alone. Measures against extreme heat and gender-inclusive swimwear also came up in the discussion.

    1AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:12
    Pretty shocking, honestly.
    2AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:12
    High schools never had pools to begin with, right?
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:16
    Re: #2
    This guy's probably from some remote island high school with like 2 students total.
    21AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:21
    Re: #2 is getting ripped apart, but mine didn't have one either.
    Is actually having a pool the majority thing?
    88AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:47
    Re: #2
    Is that really that weird? Mine was the same way.
    I'm from a remote island too, by the way.
    11AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:17
    And this is exactly how kids' physical fitness keeps declining.
    13AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:17
    Re: #11
    Can't help it, there are a lot of "sensitive types" (kids easily upset or opting out) these days.
    They blame it on upkeep costs or temperature, but really it's because too many kids just sit out and watch, plus the parent complaints.
    17AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:20
    Seriously?
    So what do they even do during summer break now?
    20AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:21
    Re: #17
    Probably just play Switch or something.
    115AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:16
    Re: #20
    Whoa… that's kind of sad.
    I used to love swimming all day and gaming at night.
    23AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:21
    The classes still technically exist, they just don't hold them at school anymore.
    A lot of schools now bus kids out to swim schools or public pools instead.

    Makes sense — keeping up a pool for just 2-3 months a year is a huge hassle.
    27AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:23
    Re: #23
    There were constantly news stories about schools forgetting to shut off the water and racking up massive losses.
    26AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:22
    Sign of the times.
    Guess you can't even go cool off at the pool during summer break anymore.
    31AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:24
    Re: #26
    These days going outside at all is the crazy option.
    30AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:24
    Even if they still have swim class, don't they just swim in swimsuits that look like regular clothes now?
    32AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:25
    Re: #30
    There are students with different gender identities, so schools don't have much choice.
    It's a unisex design.
    40AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:29
    My high school and every school around it didn't have a pool either.
    43AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:30
    My high school had a pool but no actual classes in it.
    Basically reserved for the swim club.
    50AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:31
    Having a pool at a high school is a total boonies (deep-countryside) thing, right?
    55AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:33
    Re: #50
    Mine was a combined middle/high school in Shinjuku ward, and we had a pool.
    54AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:33
    Even if they do have pool class, nobody shows up, right?
    There's not even enough time to dry your hair afterward.
    61AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:34
    Re: #54
    That's actually the exact reason it got scrapped.
    66AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:36
    Seeing that pool class used to get cancelled for being too cold back in the day really shows how much hotter it's gotten in recent years.
    80AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:41
    Re: #66
    Nowadays it's the opposite — kids get sunburned on the backside from sitting cross-legged on the ground waiting because it's too hot.
    67AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:36
    Is it just us old geezers who remember going to elementary school for "pool days" like almost 10 times during summer break? I'm in my early 30s and grew up in the countryside.
    69AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:37
    Re: #67
    They opened it up free for students during summer break, but there wasn't any actual "going to school" for it.
    71AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:39
    I actually think swimming classes are important though.
    Guess from now on it's just going to fall on parents to teach it?
    77AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:41
    Re: #71
    Swimming lessons are still a popular extracurricular activity, so parents probably just have kids do that for a few years and call it done.
    72AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:39
    Apparently it's so hot now that the pool basically turns into a hot bath.
    79AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:41
    Re: #72
    Back in the Showa era (pre-1989), there'd be days they cancelled pool class just because the water was too cold.
    96AnonymousOct 6, 2026 20:56
    "I can swim 50 meters in a pool!" — great, but that's useless if an actual tsunami hits.
    There's really no need to train for that.
    Even if you're exercising in a pool once you're older, you don't need to actually swim — just walking through the water is plenty of a workout.
    97AnonymousOct 6, 2026 21:00
    Re: #96
    If it's really about preventing drowning accidents, they should be doing more clothed-swimming drills instead.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The aging of school pools and the burden of upkeep costs have become an issue across Japan, and in recent years more municipalities have started outsourcing swim classes to nearby public pools or swim schools. The thread’s split between “high schools never had pools to begin with” and “mine did” comes down to just how much the number of pools varies by era and by a municipality’s finances. While extreme heat has made waiting outdoors a growing concern, some pointed out that swimwear designs have also been shifting out of consideration for gender diversity — suggesting the shape of swim classes now differs quite a bit from school to school. Though not addressed in the original thread, the shrinking of swimming classes raises concerns not only about declining physical fitness but also about how to keep providing safety education, such as clothed-swimming drills.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (“Nandemo Jikkyo G”) thread “[Sad News] Swimming classes in elementary, middle, and high schools are barely happening anymore lololololol“.

  • 7 Countries Enter the Race for the 2036 Summer Olympics — 5ch: “Isn’t Hosting These Days Basically a Punishment Game?”

    The International Olympic Committee (IOC) announced on October 6 that seven countries/regions — India, Qatar, Germany, Hungary, South Korea, South Africa, and Turkey — have entered the first stage, “Continuous Dialogue,” in the selection process for host of the 2036 Summer Olympics. Applications close at the end of this month, candidates will give online presentations in November, and by next March the field will be narrowed down to move into the second stage, “Targeted Dialogue.” On 5ch, many comments questioned whether these countries can actually pull off hosting the Games at all — citing extreme heat and security worries in India and Qatar, Turkey’s weak currency, and South Africa’s finances — while others pointed to the 1964 Tokyo Olympics (held in October) as a reason to reconsider when the Games are scheduled.

    The International Olympic Committee (IOC) announced on the 6th that seven countries — India, Qatar, Germany, Hungary, South Korea, South Africa, and Turkey — have entered the “Continuous Dialogue” first stage of the host selection process for the 2036 Summer Olympics. Applications from interested countries/regions close at the end of this month, and in November candidate hosts will give online presentations to the Future Host Commission.

    The IOC will examine the feasibility of each proposal, and by next March the field will be narrowed down to enter the “Targeted Dialogue” second stage.

    Full story at the source. Last updated: 10/6 (Tue) 21:12

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:10
    Everywhere's gonna be hot.
    Why not just move it to autumn?
    68AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:40
    Re: #2
    They used to hold it in autumn — the 1964 Tokyo Olympics' opening ceremony was October 10.
    For reference, Tokyo on October 10, 1964 had a high of 20.9°C, a low of 12.2°C, average 15.9°C.
    Today's average for October 10 in Tokyo (1991–2020 average) is a high of 23.0°C, low 16.0°C, average 19.1°C.
    9AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:16
    It's about time they let Turkey have a go.
    If not Turkey, then Germany.
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:16
    Is it just not possible on the African continent?
    All comes down to money?
    12AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:17
    South Korea's fine by me, the time zone makes it easy to watch.
    Sorry, but somewhere like India would be brutal both for the athletes competing and for anyone traveling there to cheer them on.
    13AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:18
    Finally, the day kabaddi becomes an Olympic sport has arrived (a popular South Asian contact sport, joking about an India-hosted Games).
    14AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:18
    Germany's fine by me — probably Berlin or Munich area. India seems like it'd give you a stomachache, and Seoul had that grilled-dove thing at the opening ceremony (a nod to the 1988 Seoul Olympics, where doves released for the ceremony were accidentally set on fire by the Olympic flame).
    15AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:18
    India sounds good.
    If they held it up around the Himalayas it'd probably stay nice and cool.
    18AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:21
    If baseball's ever coming back to the Olympics, hosting it in South Korea is the only way!
    19AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:21
    Well, it'd still be hundreds of times better than the Nagoya Asian Games.
    20AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:21
    Re: #1
    Guess it's off to Istanbul for the high jump (a play on the Japanese song "Fly to Istanbul," since high jump also involves "flying").
    23AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:22
    There's no way Qatar can host a Summer Olympics, it's way too hot.
    Before that, Israel and Iran need to agree to a ceasefire anyway.
    24AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:23
    If it goes to Turkey, their old rival Greece might grind its teeth over it.
    I kind of want to see that, so give it to Turkey.
    30AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:24
    Re: #24
    Turkey's in rough shape with its weak currency, so that's probably not happening.
    52AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:32
    Re: #24
    Depending on the route, the torch relay could end up pretty short! (the poster typed "confectionery relay" — a homophone typo for "torch relay")
    26AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:23
    Isn't Qatar brutally hot? They literally moved the World Cup to December because of it.
    34AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:26
    Re: #26
    They'll probably just hold everything indoors.
    27AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:24
    These days hosting the Olympics just seems like a punishment game to me — I'm amazed anyone still wants to bid for it.
    31AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:25
    Qatar's got the money, so they could actually be competitive.
    44AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:29
    Re: #31
    If it goes to Qatar, there'd be a ton of events they simply couldn't hold. They're only in the running because they've got cash — realistically, actually hosting it would be tough.
    35AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:26
    South Africa and Qatar both have track records of successfully hosting World Cups. People said plenty of negative things before those tournaments too, though.
    38AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:27
    Re: #35
    Qatar's case, though — they moved it to winter.
    36AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:26
    I'd go with South Korea since the time zone makes it easy to watch.
    Though who knows if I'll even be alive at 89 by then, lol.
    40AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:28
    Re: #36
    Honestly at this point it wouldn't even be weird if I went to sleep tonight and just didn't wake up tomorrow lol
    41AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:28
    Outdoor events in Qatar are basically a non-starter.
    Something like the triathlon would probably rack up casualties.
    Can they even hold river-based events there in the first place?
    With the Strait of Hormuz situation still unresolved, Qatar's going to be the first one eliminated.
    42AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:29
    Re: #41
    Well, realistically it's a non-starter for now — holding it in winter would be tough given US broadcast scheduling too.
    47AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:30
    Something you all have probably already forgotten about:

    The vuvuzela
    50AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:31
    Re: #47
    I've still got my cheer horn hanging on my wall.
    56AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:33
    South Africa's hosted both the soccer and rugby World Cups, so they could probably pull it off.
    64AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:38
    Re: #56
    South Africa doesn't have the money though.
    62AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:37
    How hot does it actually get in summer in places like India or Qatar?
    83AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:48
    Re: #62
    40°C is basically the baseline, and depending on the location it can hit around 47°C.
    63AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:37
    Foreign media's been treating India or Qatar as the favorites for a while now.
    69AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:40
    Re: #63
    Foreign media's been treating India or Qatar as the favorites for a while now.

    Background and Key Points on This Story

    Since 2017 the IOC has moved away from a single up-or-down vote on one candidate city, instead narrowing the field through staged “Continuous Dialogue” followed by “Targeted Dialogue.” The seven countries named here have only just reached the first entry point, and many are likely to be eliminated along the way. Worries about extreme heat aren’t unique to India or Qatar, either — the structural nature of the problem shows up in cases like the 2019 Doha World Athletics Championships, where the marathon had to be moved to the middle of the night, and the Qatar World Cup’s switch to a winter schedule. At the same time, the timing of the Summer Olympics is locked in by Northern Hemisphere school calendars and broadcasting contracts, which makes a shift to an autumn Games like the 1964 Tokyo Olympics unrealistic in practice. The final host decision is still years away, so much of the reaction in this thread amounts to jumping ahead to grade an answer before the test is even over.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “7 Countries Enter Bidding for the 2036 Summer Olympics — India, Qatar, Germany, South Korea.”

  • Kei Nishikori’s Retirement Ceremony Gets a Message From the ‘Big Four’ — 5ch: ‘Nishikori, Strongest Man in the Human World’

    On October 6, men’s tennis player Kei Nishikori (36) appeared at his retirement ceremony at Tokyo’s Ariake Coliseum, where he received a message from a player of the “Big Four” generation. Nishikori lost in the first round of the Japan Open on the 1st to Frances Tiafoe, closing out a 19-year professional career. On 5ch, while the identity of the sender was still being withheld, posters speculated it might be Shuzo Matsuoka or Shohei Ohtani; once the real identity was revealed, opinions split based on the two players’ head-to-head record.

    Kei Nishikori — Message From a ‘Major Star’ at Retirement Ceremony: “I’m so happy… I almost cried”

    Kei Nishikori (36, Uniqlo), former world No. 4 in men’s tennis, appeared at his retirement ceremony on the 6th at Tokyo’s Ariake Coliseum. Honoring Nishikori’s career, a member of the golden-era “Big Four” sent him a message.

    On the 1st, Nishikori lost 4-6, 4-6 to second seed Frances Tiafoe in the first round of the Japan Open (Tokyo, Ariake), bringing his 19-year career to a close.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:31
    Hoping for Federer too might be asking for a bit too much, huh
    4AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:31
    Look closely, that's just Hasegawa Arlea Jasur (a Japanese TV personality of Uzbek descent, often jokingly compared to celebrities because of his looks)
    5AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:31
    Leaving out Federer is like ordering a McDonald's burger with 'that' left out
    98AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:22
    Re: #5
    Now I'm too curious what got left out — slept like a baby (yeah right)
    7AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:32
    Isn't it someone like Navratilova…?
    8AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:32
    Oh, Djokovic actually sent a comment?
    Nice
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:33
    Re: #8
    Probably the Uniqlo connection
    84AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:16
    Re: #8
    Djokovic's impulsive and stirs up plenty of controversy, but he's also got a lot of genuinely nice-guy stories.
    Passionate, for better or worse.
    13AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:35
    If he loved tennis that much, he should've trained properly and really committed to it around age 30
    16AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:36
    Figured it'd just be Shuzo Matsuoka, but it turned out to be an actual big name — lol
    18AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:36
    Re: #10
    Federer too, though
    96AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:22
    Re: #18
    There's apparently another Nishikori event on Sunday, and word is Federer's coming to that one instead
    24AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:40
    I half-expected it to be Björn Borg, John McEnroe, or Jimmy Connors
    25AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:40
    Federer: "Who are you?"
    26AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:41
    O-oh, is that… Ohtani?
    34AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:47
    Re: #26
    It's Sakamoto, from the Yomiuri Giants
    27AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:41
    Never seen a player fall off this fast
    28AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:43
    Well, if the Big Four hadn't existed,
    he probably would've won a Grand Slam or two.

    Because he's the strongest in the human world, after all
    29AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:43
    My own biased image was that Federer would be the type to properly do something like this while Djokovic wouldn't bother — turns out it's the opposite
    30AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:43
    Even in his prime, he couldn't lay a finger on Djokovic
    39AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:50
    Re: #30
    But I'll never forget that US Open semifinal.
    I genuinely thought beating Djokovic meant he'd won the whole tournament.
    31AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:44
    And then at the end Aja Kong (the famous Japanese pro wrestler) showed up and said 'don't you dare underestimate me'
    33AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:45
    What about a message from Ai Fukuhara?' (the table-tennis star)
    35AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:47
    What, no comment from Federer? He's the one who said Nishikori's tennis was the most fun to watch out of any player's
    37AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:47
    Federer got taken down?? And he was supposed to be the [weakest] one of the Big Four… (riffing on the old anime cliché 'He was defeated?! He was the weakest of the Four Heavenly Kings…')
    38AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:49
    They said 'major star' so I figured it was Andre [Agassi]
    44AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:53
    He looked like Joe Torre, the former Yankees manager
    What about Roger Federer?
    47AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:55
    Did Nishikori's matches even air on TV?
    I've never once seen one
    55AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:59
    Re: #47
    The Australian Open and Wimbledon aired on NHK terrestrial, live or recorded, so you could've watched if you wanted to.
    But tennis match times only get set the day before, so you'd miss it if you weren't checking closely lol
    82AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:15
    Re: #47
    Tennis fans would know, but it was on constantly — to the point it'd get called 'Ohtani harassment' by today's standards.
    Counting the BS satellite channels, every tournament he entered got coverage.
    It was all over the news too.
    48AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:55
    Federer's actually coming to Japan in a few days to appear together with Nishikori, so look forward to that!
    Maybe that's why Uniqlo held him back lol
    51AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:56
    Red Ace
    Surprise
    Boom-Boom
    Edomae
    Pirozhkinov
    Dandy
    Sucharaka
    Bravo
    Uncle Sam
    Umezo
    Wild Rule
    Katsurou
    (fan-invented joke nicknames for various players)
    52AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:56
    He pulled off a 'rookie-killer' surprise win against Djokovic the first time, but once Djokovic properly adapted, he could never win again
    57AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:00
    He only made one Grand Slam final
    Why's everyone treating him like such a huge deal
    60AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:01
    Re: #57
    Japanese players are money-makers
    77AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:13
    Re: #57
    He was world No. 4 while playing in the same era as the Big Four.
    There wasn't a single top player from that era who didn't have Nishikori on their radar.
    89AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:19
    Re: #57
    At a time when taller and taller players were taking over, it was fun watching a small, stereotypically built Asian guy compete on technique instead of power.
    I wasn't that big a fan of his, but he's a player who'll stick in the memory of tennis fans worldwide.
    76AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:12
    Career head-to-head records

    vs Djokovic: Nishikori 2-18

    vs Nadal: Nishikori 2-11

    vs Murray: Nishikori 2-9

    vs Federer: Nishikori 3-8
    90AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:19
    Re: #76
    There aren't many players who managed to rack up 9 total wins against the Big Four, legends that they were

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Kei Nishikori reached the 2014 US Open final and climbed to a career-high world No. 4, but his era was dominated almost entirely by the “Big Four” — Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, and Murray — who swept the Grand Slams during that period. The head-to-head records cited in the thread (2 wins and 18 losses against Djokovic, 2-11 against Nadal, and so on) illustrate just how brutal that era was — context a single runner-up finish alone doesn’t convey. Opinions split over how to weigh that record: some called the ‘big star’ framing excessive, while others argued he was one of the few players who managed to beat members of the Big Four at all. Before the identity of the ceremony’s message sender was revealed, many posters guessed it might be Shuzo Matsuoka or Federer himself, and reactions stayed divided even after the real sender was confirmed. Posters also noted that Federer is reportedly visiting Japan for a separate event a few days later to meet Nishikori in person — cited as a possible reason he didn’t appear at the ceremony itself.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisokuhō+) thread “[Tennis] Kei Nishikori — Message From a ‘Major Star’ at Retirement Ceremony: “I’m so happy… I almost cried”.”

  • Gonda Shuichi’s claim that “only Japan obsesses over GK footwork” draws pushback — 5ch: “Has he never heard of Neuer?”

    Vissel Kobe goalkeeper Gonda Shuichi, in an interview, questioned the modern soccer trend of prizing a GK’s “footwork/distribution skills” above all else, saying that focus is “actually unique to Japan.” His point: a keeper who can’t stop shots should never be rated highly, yet in Japan all the attention goes to passing ability. On 5ch, many pushed back by pointing to top overseas keepers like Neuer and Ederson as proof that footwork is valued worldwide too — while others raised the recent debate over Zion Suzuki’s save performances and the view that Japanese youth development tends to overrate small, technical players, splitting the discussion.

    Kobe GK Gonda Shuichi lays out his own theory on the footwork skills now demanded of modern goalkeepers

    In football in recent years, a goalkeeper’s “footwork technique” has rapidly grown in importance. In an era that praises keepers for joining the attack as essentially an extra field player, Vissel Kobe’s Gonda Shuichi — who has also played in Europe — quietly feels something is off about that trend. We dig into a theory of goalkeeping that only looks genuine coming from someone who has actually fought on the field. (Reporting and text by Yusuke Konishi, FOOTBALL ZONE editorial team / Part 2 of 5)

    “What is the true essence of being a goalkeeper?”

    Source: football-zone.net / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:31
    Has this guy never heard of Neuer?
    64AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:05
    Re: #3
    The point is it's meaningless unless you're at that level
    5AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:32
    The moment he starts making blanket claims like that, the argument falls apart
    7AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:34
    That's such a classically "bad at it himself" take, lol
    8AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:34
    Having that extra tactical option is a good thing though
    9AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:35
    Attacking with the keeper included is just modern soccer, and defense is the whole team narrowing shooting lanes together.
    As power and speed keep climbing like they have in other sports, there's no stopping this trend no matter what
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:36
    Neuer: "Yeah, fair."
    Ederson: "Yeah, fair."
    Ter Stegen: "Yeah, fair."
    Zion: "…Is that really so?"
    52AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:00
    Re: #10
    I don't really picture Ederson making many saves
    but I guess that's unavoidable since he's just that dominant
    11AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:36
    A question immediately comes to mind:
    Does Gonda actually know much about goalkeeping at Europe's elite clubs and top leagues?
    Does he know much about the coaching and players at Japan's youth level?
    13AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:36
    Gon-Pink's actually saying something worthwhile. (nickname for Gonda)
    14AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:39
    Did even Gonda turn into one of those "back in my day" old-timers?
    15AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:39
    If a GK's footwork is garbage and the team just boots it long right away, the opponent recovers the ball and defensive situations pile up — meaning you end up conceding more goals anyway
    16AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:39
    That's basically the skill of rolling the ball into dangerous areas, isn't it
    20AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:41
    Re: #16
    Ogihara's face is faintly coming to mind (riffing on the meme phrase "it faintly comes to mind")
    21AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:41
    Even just having a GK who can hit accurate long feeds adds another option, so what's wrong with that
    22AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:42
    Counterattacking, solid-defense-and-quick-strike soccer is a loser's game!!
    Japanese soccer is attacking soccer — building up from the keeper, raising possession, seizing the initiative, and breaking teams down with passing!!
    24AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:43
    Honestly, Gonda's own save ability wasn't anything special either
    25AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:43
    Well, if you field a GK who can't stop shots, clearing the ball becomes mandatory and the option to build up play disappears entirely
    27AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:44
    Teams that are constantly on the front foot (the strong ones) versus teams constantly pinned back (the weak ones) probably see this differently, no?
    32AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:46
    > "A keeper who can't stop the shots that matter will never be rated highly"

    Well, saving shots is just the baseline since he's a pro — build-up play is the extra factor layered on top that gets evaluated, isn't it?
    Gonda, forget soccer, is your reading comprehension okay?
    46AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:56
    Re: #32
    "Just the baseline"…
    There's a real gap between an 80 and a 100, you know?
    Does "baseline" mean you think everyone's tied at 100 on shot-stopping?

    You're the one with the weak reading comprehension here.
    40AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:54
    Other factors only get evaluated on the premise that the keeper already has high-level saving ability to begin with
    90AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:16
    Re: #40
    That said, judging who's better at "saving ability" gets really technical — you'd probably need to be at goalkeeping-coach level to call it.
    Footwork skill, on the other hand, even an amateur can spot at a glance.
    So it's entirely plausible that on the ground, at scouting level, something like "can't tell who saves better between these two, but this guy's footwork is better so he gets picked" is actually happening.
    50AnonymousOct 6, 2026 22:58
    If the GK can genuinely build up play properly, it should change how possessions develop compared to the opponent instantly collecting a long ball, and it seems like it'd cut down on dangerous moments too
    60AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:03
    Re: #50
    Rather than demanding build-up play from the GK, I'd rather
    field players practiced their throw-ins a bit more.
    Is there even a single strong team out there that's bad at throw-ins?
    59AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:03
    Even overseas, people diss this era as one where you can start as long as your distribution is good, even with mediocre catching
    63AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:04
    Re: #59
    That's a case of the means becoming the end.
    Thought that was a Japanese specialty (e.g., "running soccer"), but I guess it's the same overseas too
    62AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:03
    In this latest stretch of 4 matches, Zion had absolutely nothing to show for himself on saves
    85AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:15
    Re: #62
    The experts are saying those were no-chance shots the GK had no way of reaching anyway.
    Ever since the World Cup it's been nothing but no-chance shots — poor Zion (´;ω;`)
    81AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:14
    I'd buy it if this were coming from someone who's actually played in the Premier League or La Liga talking about world-class keepers, but…
    87AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:16
    Re: #81
    Someone who's never even properly played soccer, let alone gone pro,
    is using Gonda as ammunition to pontificate about world soccer
    83AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:15
    Still, it's true that thanks to Zion, the bar for Japanese GKs has shot way up
    94AnonymousOct 6, 2026 23:18
    Re: #83
    Goalkeeping really was Japan's weak spot for ages.
    Kawashima especially was the type to roar and fly off the handle even when a goal was his own fault

    Background and key points of this debate

    In recent years, goalkeepers for Europe’s top clubs and for national teams that regularly feature in the Champions League have come under strong pressure to show “footwork skill” — joining the attack through passing and build-up play. This stems from high-press, possession-oriented tactics becoming mainstream, with the GK effectively treated as an 11th field player. That said, as pointed out in the thread, elite keepers like Neuer, Ederson, and Ter Stegen are world-class not just at footwork but at shot-stopping too — so it isn’t simply a case of “they play because they’re good with their feet.” Gonda’s comment is really aimed at a Japan-specific concern, that domestic youth development tends to overrate passing over saving, and isn’t a rejection of the broader overseas trend itself — a nuance that’s easy to misread.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “[Soccer] The “footwork-first” trend is “actually unique to Japan” — Gonda Shuichi sounds the alarm… modern soccer’s blind spot: “the thing pros need least”“.