Category: Anime

  • How to Become a Manga Artist at 38 With No Drawing Experience? 5ch Debate Gets Heated

    When the thread’s OP declared they’d aim to become a manga artist starting from zero drawing experience at age 38, the thread lit up with debate over strategy. Some pushed the traditional route — pitching to editors or posting on Shintousha — while others argued for the “wait to go viral” route: posting doodles on social media and hoping to get discovered. Opinions split on whether drawing skill is even essential, with some pointing out that “there are more manga artists with rough art these days” and others countering “that’s a completely different level.” Someone floated letting AI handle the artwork, but that drew pushback too, with critics saying it would make the story boring.

    1AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:09
    Stats:
    38 years old
    Never drawn a single thing
    4AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:11
    You really think you can beat teenagers who draw six hours a day?
    8AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:13
    Re: #4
    The goal is to become a manga artist, not to beat any particular person
    7AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:13
    If you go study now, you'll lose whatever charm you've got right now — don't bother.
    Fight with the weapon you already have
    12AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:14
    Re: #7
    And what weapon would that even be?
    11AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:14
    Spend the time you spend making threads like this on practicing drawing or building a story instead
    15AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:14
    Re: #11
    Making threads is my hobby, it's my life
    13AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:14
    Have AI draw the backgrounds and characters, then hand-trace it
    17AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:15
    Re: #13
    I figure that's fair enough as practice
    18AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:15
    Isn't following the Miiyama route the shortcut right now? (a manga artist who broke out via social media)
    Post doodles regularly on social media, catch someone's eye, and if you go viral, jackpot
    24AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:16
    Re: #18
    Yeah, I figure that's about the only way
    20AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:15
    Re: #12
    The issue is you've never drawn before.
    Everyone around you has been drawing for years.
    These days originality is the real weapon though
    29AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:17
    Re: #20
    A manga artist who can't draw isn't even worth discussing
    23AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:16
    Call yourself a manga artist and you already are one
    31AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:17
    Re: #23
    I want money from manga
    25AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:16
    Isn't two hours a day way too little?
    30AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:17
    Re: #25
    Nah, just carving out two hours after work is already tough — go beyond that and you won't be able to keep it up
    33AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:18
    Re: #25
    Well yeah, I've got a job and other hobbies too
    34AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:18
    Re: #29
    There are more and more manga artists with bad art lately
    38AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:19
    Re: #34
    That's a completely different level
    39AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:19
    Re: #35
    If you draw while livestreaming you'll improve, and if it goes well you could land some regulars
    You don't even have to show your face
    40AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:20
    Re: #39
    Makes sense
    Streaming your practice time might not be a bad idea
    41AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:20
    Wonder what's gonna happen to the manga industry with AI going forward
    46AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:23
    Re: #41
    AI's still a good three years off from being able to do manga
    43AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:20
    Reading stuff like Sumi Nigori (a manga) makes you realize even an old man can totally still debut
    49AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:23
    Re: #43
    Even Furuhata Ninzaburo (the famous TV detective) said age doesn't matter when you're starting something over
    45AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:22
    Just draw something like Chiikawa on Twitter and you're set
    53AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:24
    Re: #45
    Chiikawa's art is actually really good though
    50AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:24
    If you're serious, pitching to an editor is the only way.
    Don't go dreaming about blowing up online
    55AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:25
    Re: #50
    Even if you pitch, won't they turn you away at the door because of your age?
    57AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:26
    Re: #48
    Instead of fantasizing about getting good starting now, draw a manga that works with the art you've already got
    59AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:26
    Re: #57
    Fair enough
    70AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:29
    Go post on Shintousha
    75AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:30
    Re: #70
    I do think publishers matter
    105AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:36
    Re: #75
    With that attitude you're gonna miss the wave of the times

    108AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:37
    Re: #105
    I think Shintousha is amazing
    92AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:32
    Come up with a good story and let AI do the art
    94AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:33
    Re: #92
    That'd be boring
    95AnonymousAug 29, 2026 19:34
    Re: #92
    The story is exactly the part that should be left to AI

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    There are broadly two routes to becoming a manga artist: getting discovered by an editor through a publisher’s rookie award or a direct pitch, or building a following directly with readers via social media or web-manga posting sites. In recent years, success stories via the latter route have grown more common, with character appeal and pacing sometimes valued over drawing technique. Shintousha, mentioned in the thread, is a long-running site where amateurs can self-publish their work, known as a route distinct from pitching to editors. AI-assisted art generated plenty of discussion, but participants were split on when — or whether — it’ll become practical. It’s also worth noting that “let’s figure out how to become X” threads are a recurring 5ch staple, where the fun is often in the back-and-forth itself rather than how serious the OP actually is.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from a thread on 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyō G (general live-chat) board: “A Thread About How I’m Going to Become a Manga Artist.”

  • Goodbye Lara Episode 10: Fans Buzz Over Real Cel Animation and Pre-Broadcast Leaks

    Following the broadcast of Episode 10 of the anime “Goodbye Lara,” the thread lit up over the discovery that the show’s distinctively textured animation was actually shot using real cel (hand-painted transparency) footage on an animation stand, along with speculation about the psychological meaning behind the different drinks Luka gave Lara. Multiple posters also shared pilgrimage reports from real-world locations featured in the show, such as Lake Biwa Terrace, complete with photos of the crowds and fog on site. On top of that, some pointed out that content said to have circulated from overseas accounts before the broadcast matched the actual episode, prompting calls to be on guard against leaks of the next episode.

    ◆When starting a new thread, copy the following so it fits on three lines↑

    Though a mermaid princess, Lara longed for love with a human.

    But — that wish would not come true, and she vanished into the sea as sea foam.

    Source: goodbyelara.com / original article here

    6AnonymousAug 28, 2026 23:59
    Thanks for the new thread
    Previous thread hit 1000
    Nah, that texture is obviously real cel animation, you can tell at a glance
    12AnonymousAug 29, 2026 00:49
    Re: #6
    On first watch I figured it just looked cel-style, but I never imagined they were actually shooting it on a real animation stand
    16AnonymousAug 29, 2026 02:01
    Re: #12
    At the preview screening they played a short behind-the-scenes video before the opening, so we already knew they were using real cels before watching the episode itself
    Even after showing us that much, we were told to keep quiet about it
    21AnonymousAug 29, 2026 08:19
    Re: #12
    Same here
    I mean, you could fake a cel-style look digitally if you really wanted to

    I love Goodbye Lara and the staff, but
    honestly there wasn't really any need to insist on real cels
    26AnonymousAug 29, 2026 13:06
    Stuff that's okay to photograph.
    Apparently the exhibit started today.



    46AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:03
    I really don't think Lara's the one who'll confess first
    her feelings clearly aren't into it
    she's more worried about the food than about Luka tripping and falling
    she keeps a straight face even about the ladybug's message
    and she doesn't look like she's enjoying herself at all even on the swan boat
    49AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:13
    Re: #46
    I wonder what Lara's going to say while she's grabbing Luka's clothes to stop him
    54AnonymousAug 29, 2026 18:41
    Re: #46
    Going by the synopsis Lara's the one panicking, so
    I think Lara will push herself on Luka and he'll get confused and turn her down
    72AnonymousAug 30, 2026 00:36
    Isn't Luka just falling over all the time because he's simply clumsy…?
    75AnonymousAug 30, 2026 01:43
    Re: #72
    Yeah I think that's just it
    his little brother even calls him clumsy in his first appearance episode
    76AnonymousAug 30, 2026 01:44
    Re: #72
    That's possible, but I do wonder whether they'd really choose such a distinctive way of falling just to portray Luka as a klutz.
    86AnonymousAug 30, 2026 09:51
    Hates humans (but loves their culture)
    92AnonymousAug 30, 2026 11:18
    Re: #86
    Rowan hates humans, but Lisa doesn't seem to, huh
    also she's not into the dark either — so what was up with her being lit up like that?
    or is that just a profile inconsistency
    135AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:05
    Re: #86
    Her tastes sound like a Japanese grandma's
    137AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:09
    Re: #86
    A super-elderly lady who's obsessed with washing cars
    88AnonymousAug 30, 2026 10:29
    Curry bread from Lake Biwa Terrace.
    Fresh out of the fryer, so it's too hot to hold.


    89AnonymousAug 30, 2026 10:32
    This is how it looked at 9am today.
    Can't see the view at all.




    91AnonymousAug 30, 2026 11:08
    Re: #89
    It would've been nice for someone who traveled so far to see the grand view, but I guess you could be satisfied knowing you got the same experience, the same view, as Lara and the others
    Well done making the trip
    Take care on your pilgrimage
    96AnonymousAug 30, 2026 11:56
    Re: #89
    Honestly the fog looks nice and cool
    Can you actually jump off partway through this thing?
    105AnonymousAug 30, 2026 12:56
    Phew, glad the bread survived!

    a classic Goodbye Lara moment
    110AnonymousAug 30, 2026 14:09
    Re: #105
    I thought that spot was flat, but there's actually a step there.
    I took this from where I bought the bread, so the step's hard to make out.


    114AnonymousAug 30, 2026 16:00
    Re: #110
    Yeah, that really is hard to see
    you could actually trip on this
    107AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:33
    Made it to Notogawa Arena, but there seems to be a sports tournament going on with athletes out front, so I can't get a photo of the building.

    109AnonymousAug 30, 2026 14:01
    Quick question — am I right that Lara already knew from episode 1 that she'd turn into foam and die once the medicine wore off?
    113AnonymousAug 30, 2026 15:52
    Re: #109
    Didn't she only find out because Lisa told her?
    118AnonymousAug 30, 2026 16:17
    Re: #109
    I think it's fine to just assume she didn't know
    111AnonymousAug 30, 2026 15:06
    W-wait, don't tell me you went to Lake Biwa Terrace… alone?!
    112AnonymousAug 30, 2026 15:48
    Re: #111
    Of course, alone.
    This time I got a clear card at Heiwado (a local supermarket chain) but forgot to go to the fresh fish section, and there are still spots I haven't made a pilgrimage to, so I'll give it another shot after the show wraps up.

    It'll probably be around the time I go check out this Nara event.

    https://x.com/naracity_maibun/status/2092487401709187087
    115AnonymousAug 30, 2026 16:07
    Re: #111
    Nothing wrong with going solo
    if parking were cheaper I'd buy an annual pass and go by myself just to take photos
    (2000 yen on weekends is way too much for somewhere that isn't even downtown — makes me not want to go back repeatedly)
    274AnonymousAug 31, 2026 01:52
    She accepted the can of cocoa from Mari, but she clearly rejected the mystery drink (an energy drink?) that Luka gave her — feels like there's some meaning behind that

    284AnonymousAug 31, 2026 01:53
    Re: #274
    The cocoa was given to her when she was all alone, so she was happy about it
    with the energy drink, it was the bird scene right after that let her feel Luka's kindness
    it's not like one has to negate the other
    286AnonymousAug 31, 2026 01:55
    Re: #274
    Luka probably would've been happy if Lara came to like the things he likes, but
    what he gives her afterward on Blumen Hill was cocoa after all
    289AnonymousAug 31, 2026 01:57
    But man
    that episode 9 leak from the overseas account that was going around beforehand turned out to be the real deal…
    292AnonymousAug 31, 2026 01:58
    Re: #289
    If that's the case, episode 10 will probably leak too…
    better take precautions
    295AnonymousAug 31, 2026 01:59
    Re: #289
    Huh? I thought that was just fan art, so it was actually a leak?
    300AnonymousAug 31, 2026 02:02
    Re: #289
    Seriously?
    what did the leak actually show?
    383AnonymousAug 31, 2026 03:28
    The direction is amazing
    the breaker tripping, the lighting, the moon shown almost fully eclipsed — all building unease
    they only show Mari's mouth, never her eyes (so you can't tell if she really means it when she says it's for the best)
    the spinning tire in the confession scene cutting to a flash of Mari also feels loaded with meaning

    Luka was doing his best to understand Lara, but
    his choice of drink didn't land
    and the portrait he draws of Lara doesn't look anything like her
    that's probably why he went to Mari to say he can't understand Lara
    I think the reason he turned down the kiss at the end was some kind of fear that comes from not truly understanding her
    385AnonymousAug 31, 2026 03:30
    Re: #383
    Wasn't it simply that her breath smelled bad?
    She's a mermaid, so she'd probably smell fishy
    388AnonymousAug 31, 2026 03:36
    Re: #383
    The portrait will probably be finished the moment Luka comes to understand Lara
    though that's probably the final episode
    389AnonymousAug 31, 2026 03:39
    Re: #383
    Whether it's what someone likes or anything else, that's the kind of thing you come to understand about each other gradually — but the lack of time is what's getting in the way here

    Background and Key Points of Discussion

    “Goodbye Lara” depicts a romance between a mermaid and a human, and this time the discussion centered on three main points. First is the animation technique: a behind-the-scenes video shown at the preview screening revealed that the show’s distinctive texture comes from real cel animation shot on an animation stand. Second is a psychological reading based on the drinks (cocoa vs. an energy drink) that Luka gave Lara, with fans interpreting the difference in gifts as a sign that Luka still doesn’t fully understand Lara. Third is the topic of a “leak”: content said to have circulated from overseas accounts before the broadcast reportedly matched the actual episode, raising concern about the next episode as well. All of this remains within the realm of fan speculation and impressions — it’s worth noting that neither the authenticity of the leak nor the intended meaning behind Luka’s psychological portrayal has been officially confirmed. Several pilgrimage reports were also posted, showing fans enjoying the contrast between the real-world scenery and the show’s scenes.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (anime) thread “Goodbye Lara #10.”

  • Detective Precure’s Gouemon trends on X — 5ch: ‘Everyone’s roasting his every move’

    The live-reaction thread for ‘Detective Precure! ++Star Detective Precure!++’, the newest entry in the Precure series airing Sunday mornings, was buzzing on 5ch. This time, Gouemon’s antics drew a wave of viewer commentary, with some reports claiming the show shot to the #1 trending spot on X after the broadcast. Fans also debated the cutting of the two heroines’ transformation sequence this episode, offering theories ranging from ‘runtime constraints’ to ‘merchandising reasons,’ alongside discussion of the show’s in-story timeline and why the Arcana of the past couldn’t defeat Usonowaru.

    ↑ Please stack this at the top with two or more lines when starting a new thread.

    A thread for discussing ‘Detective Precure!’, the newest entry in the Precure series.

    The official catch-up stream (one week delayed) is also streaming free on Niconico Douga!

    Source: toei-anim.co.jp / Original article here

    19AnonymousAug 30, 2026 10:57
    In the show's world it's still July, so there's still hope for a swimsuit episode.
    25AnonymousAug 30, 2026 11:00
    Re: #19
    Nah, that ship's sailed.
    There's consignment doujin books, so go check a doujin shop —
    you can see whatever you want there.
    29AnonymousAug 30, 2026 11:03
    Re: #19
    Back then they probably didn't have swimsuits like today's board-short or skirt styles yet — is that gonna be okay?
    53AnonymousAug 30, 2026 11:20
    Re: #19
    Last episode, the 7th month of the lunar calendar was drawing to a close. So in the show, that puts us in late lunar-7th-month of Heisei 11 (1999), which lines up with a range of August 30 – September 9 on the modern calendar.


    Of the episodes after #32, the only one that could count as a swimsuit episode is the beach volleyball episode from Heartcatch Precure ep. 35.
    67AnonymousAug 30, 2026 11:32
    Wait, is Arcana seriously gonna be the one leading that combo attack every single time?
    70AnonymousAug 30, 2026 11:34
    Re: #67
    Usually that'd be the lead's job, or the fairy's…
    73AnonymousAug 30, 2026 11:35
    Re: #67
    She's turned into this high-maintenance woman who won't cooperate unless you feed her ice cream… it's like she's Ankh (the sweets-obsessed character from Kamen Rider OOO).
    74AnonymousAug 30, 2026 11:35
    Re: #67
    Well, it's merch-pushing season… starting from the 4th cour it'll probably be all about the brooch anyway.
    80AnonymousAug 30, 2026 11:38
    This came across my feed and I lost it. If they actually pull this off, can we call it a masterpiece?
    83AnonymousAug 30, 2026 11:40
    Re: #80
    So THIS is the 'Great King of Terror'?! (a nod to the famous 1999 Nostradamus prophecy)
    86AnonymousAug 30, 2026 11:43
    Re: #80
    Lol, if they cleaned up the design a bit this could actually look cool.
    123AnonymousAug 30, 2026 12:07
    Feels like they just steamrolled through it, but in the end, which is it —
    ① Ruruka's deduction was wrong, or
    ② Eclair's a candidate for the Great King, but everyone's gonna work together so it doesn't come to that?
    Or is there some other answer?… Enlighten me, Goubi (riffing on the old meme line 'tell me, Wufei').
    132AnonymousAug 30, 2026 12:10
    Re: #123
    You've gotta watch, feel, and think it through yourself to find the real answer, ya know.
    135AnonymousAug 30, 2026 12:11
    Re: #123
    1 → Ruruka's deduction and the legend line up.
    2 → The Book of Mirage's prophecy is accurate, and going by what Usonowaru said, Eclair is the Great King — but nobody really understands what the Great King even is.

    Honestly it feels like nobody has a solid grasp on the Great King. It seems to just be something passed down as legend among the Phantom fairy clan.
    136AnonymousAug 30, 2026 12:11
    Re: #123
    It kind of got swept under the rug with that vague 'it enveloped Ruruka's world~' wrap-up, huh…
    196AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:19
    I watched it live, took a nap, and now I'm checking X trends — why is Gouemon at the top??
    https://imgur.com/4y9eXCQ.jpg
    200AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:22
    Re: #196
    Partly because Gouemon's antics had his teammates roasting him nonstop and it was hilarious, and partly because he took the Tear Arcana Rod (the one with the charm) home with him, so people are speculating he'll become 'Cure Gouemon Shadow.'
    204AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:24
    It was sad that this episode finally cut the transformation sequence for just the two leads. I mean, Lord Bandai's gotta push the new item to sell it, so I get the need to prioritize it, but still…
    215AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:27
    Re: #204
    At this point it's basically the official answer: if they'd kept the transformation in, they wouldn't have had the runtime to tell the story they wanted to.
    220AnonymousAug 30, 2026 13:29
    Re: #215
    Nah, this morning's episode was really good so I'm fine with it — it's more like it makes you wonder what a 'main character' even is anymore. Also, is everyone forgetting the whole 'she came from the past' setup?
    336AnonymousAug 30, 2026 15:29
    Is everyone heading straight to Shinjuku after watching Precure next week?
    https://imgur.com/7SqQtzB.jpg
    428AnonymousAug 30, 2026 16:56
    Re: #336
    The Tsutaya at Ebisubashi is closing down in October too, huh.
    340AnonymousAug 30, 2026 15:40
    'Cure Gouemon Shadow' — I lost it.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQ7oruNbsAA_FjO.jpg#large.jpg
    345AnonymousAug 30, 2026 15:48
    Re: #340
    Why exactly does it have breasts…?
    352AnonymousAug 30, 2026 15:54
    Re: #340
    Let's just put it in the 'Pop-Out School' segment as is.
    Gouemon Roulette, start!
    It's all good! It's all good! (riffing on comedian Ken Shimura's classic catchphrase from his variety show 'Daijoubu Da')
    431AnonymousAug 30, 2026 17:01
    I wanna know why the Arcana of the past couldn't beat Usonowaru.
    433AnonymousAug 30, 2026 17:03
    Re: #431
    Is there any reason besides simply losing on raw combat power?
    452AnonymousAug 30, 2026 17:14
    Re: #431
    Either she still didn't have enough experience as a Precure yet, or she misjudged Usocchi's combat strength.
    454AnonymousAug 30, 2026 17:15
    Re: #431
    The first time it was Usocchi + an executive, and at home base it was Usocchi + Decchi — there's no way she was winning that alone lol, though I guess the one she actually fought one-on-one was just Usocchi.

    And honestly, even Glittering Eclair could probably corner Armored Usocchi, but finishing her off would be tough — she'd run out of gas before that happened.
    438AnonymousAug 30, 2026 17:06
    The Chairman's probably dying to get his hands on that~
    445AnonymousAug 30, 2026 17:09
    Re: #438
    Lol. Is that seriously the only dark-fallen form I get?
    448AnonymousAug 30, 2026 17:12
    Re: #438
    Also, she said she wanted to protect people even without power, so is it really fine that what she ends up getting is a dark-fallen form?
    612AnonymousAug 30, 2026 19:44
    Perverted old man.
    618AnonymousAug 30, 2026 19:54
    Re: #612
    Hahahaha (´∀`)
    Guess Uso-tan's a guy (male) after all, lol
    637AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:33
    Re: #612
    Didn't Age have something wrapped around his arm? Maybe it's like a falconer's glove, so Uso's claws don't dig in?
    628AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:11
    The 2nd-generation Arcana Shadow (lol).
    629AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:11
    Re: #628
    They slapped an 'AI training prohibited' notice on something like this — that's funnier than the art itself.
    630AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:16
    Re: #628
    Worse than the one posted earlier, lmao.
    633AnonymousAug 30, 2026 20:23
    Re: #628
    Dunno where this was originally posted, but if it's on X, I'd bet Grok's already trained on it.

    Background and Talking Points

    ‘Detective Precure! ++Star Detective Precure!++’, produced by Toei Animation, is the newest entry in the Precure series airing Sunday mornings, and this thread is the 75th installment of the live-reaction/impressions threads that pop up right after each broadcast. The claim about hitting ‘#1 on X trends’ raised in the thread was based on a screenshot posted by one user — it remains an unconfirmed mention within 5ch, with no third-party verification available. The idea some fans floated, linking the presence or absence of the transformation sequence to the release timing of new merchandise, reflects fan experience with the Precure franchise’s well-known practice of adjusting production choices around toy rollouts — it is not something the production side has officially confirmed. Meanwhile, the split interpretations around the ending description that ‘it enveloped Ruruka’s world’ stem from the series’ characteristically abstract way of wrapping up its plots, and remains a point viewers still haven’t sorted out among themselves.

    *This article was compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (anime) thread ‘Detective Precure! ++Star Detective Precure!++ 75‘.

  • Backlash Mounts Against “Dragon Ball Is the Greatest Manga” Claim — 5ch Erupts in One Piece Comparison Debate

    On 5ch’s News VIP board, a thread starter’s flat declaration that “Dragon Ball is the greatest manga” drew fierce pushback from One Piece fans.

    The debate expanded into a full comparison of the two series — foreshadowing, thematic depth, how each portrays its cast of companions — before spiraling into an unresolved argument over what “greatest manga” even means.

    1AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:03
    Has this freak never read anything besides Dragon Ball?
    15AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:10
    And Gundam or One Piece fans would never say something this arrogant
    26AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:14
    Re: #15
    It's not that One Piece fans won't say it — they can't say it.
    Chidori couldn't exactly say "we're the top" in front of Downtown, right? (comedy duo analogy: a junior act can't claim to outrank a legendary senior one)

    Gundam isn't even manga to begin with, plus it's a different category — those fans probably think they're already the top of the robot genre anyway.
    35AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:22
    Re: #26
    No, the point is: if you're gonna call it the greatest manga, back it up with an actual explanation.
    "It's popular" alone doesn't cut it — that's no different from Demon Slayer.
    You need substance to talk about, like people can with One Piece.
    38AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:26
    Re: #26
    For what it's worth, I can flatly say One Piece is better than Dragon Ball.
    And I can actually explain why.
    20AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:12
    It's lesser than Gundam or Pokémon, sure, but the sheer density of the content is real.
    You could talk for hours about nothing but the side-branch Carddass trading cards.
    21AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:12
    I'm an otaku so I've devoured all kinds of manga, and I still think Dragon Ball is supreme.
    Plus, even Tezuka praised it (Osamu Tezuka, the "god of manga").
    23AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:13
    Re: #21
    Weak, weak~ ♡ (a mocking taunt — "zako zako," meaning "weakling, weakling")
    24AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:13
    Re: #20
    Re: #21
    It's just people punching each other, isn't it?
    What do you even mean by "high density"?
    42AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:32
    Re: #38
    Oh! That's interesting! Go ahead and explain it!
    46AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:34
    Re: #42
    For one, it doesn't have random, aimless power inflation.
    And the worldbuilding never falls apart.
    49AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:35
    Re: #46
    Oh, okay then…
    54AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:38
    Re: #49
    It introduced real, proper foreshadowing for a shonen manga.
    Monkey D. Luffy
    Gold Roger
    ↓
    Gol D. Roger (Volume 17)
    55AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:40
    Re: #49
    What's that supposed to mean?
    "Oh, okay then" — that's no different from a Demon Slayer fan.
    59AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:44
    Re: #55
    I'm asking what's actually amazing about One Piece, and when you answer with stuff like Re: #46 or Re: #54 — things basically every manga does — of course all you get back is a reaction like Re: #49.
    67AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:49
    Also, it actually has real thematic depth.
    It's impressive that a top-tier hit shonen manga takes on the topic of discrimination and actually sees it through to a resolution.


    68AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:50
    Re: #59
    Dragon Ball doesn't do that, sure, but it's basically the textbook example of power inflation to begin with.
    73AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:55
    Re: #67
    Umm… could you try to understand Re: #68?
    Every manga develops its own original story — if it did the same thing as some other work, that would literally be called plagiarism.
    One Piece, like every other manga, develops its own unique story, so being told "that's amazing" about something every other manga does as a matter of course doesn't actually make One Piece amazing.
    139AnonymousAug 28, 2026 01:05
    Re: #88
    Dragon Ball couldn't pull this off, could it?
    Same goes for Re: #67, too.
    82AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:03
    Does One Piece even have foreshadowing?
    Isn't it just stuff like "actually, this is what was really going on" or "actually, he had an older brother" — the same kind of thing Dragon Ball did with the Red Ribbon Army or the Gero father-son reveal?
    88AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:07
    Re: #82
    https://wakatake.zashiki.com/wj/wj506btaiyo.html
    Check this out — you can see it was tackling discrimination from quite early on.
    Side note:
    Arlong suddenly flying into a rage, shouting about it almost like he'd personally "been discriminated against."
    158AnonymousAug 28, 2026 01:26
    Re: #154
    > But hey, as he got older, he probably got embarrassed about spending his life drawing childish shonen manga
    Look at Re: #88 and 89 — you can see it's been handled since volume 6.

    So? What about Dragon Ball?
    Did it just keep doing Anpanman-style slugfests all the way to the finale?
    Weren't you the one saying "One Piece is shallow"?
    Where's that "greatest manga" now?
    89AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:08
    Re: #82
    Buggy, Kuro, and Krieg all treated their own crews like garbage, yet Arlong has this bizarrely strong sense of loyalty to his crew (almost like he'd been on the receiving end of discrimination).
    90AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:09
    Re: #82
    The Arlong Pirates covering up their World Noble branding with a sun mark.
    And Nami, the one member of the Arlong crew, has a tattoo that looks like her path was completely different from the rest of them.

    94AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:12
    What's good about Dragon Ball is that it has no agenda and doesn't try to make you cry.

    No agenda means: an absolute evil shows up, everyone unconditionally agrees it's evil and has to be beaten — that's it.
    Not trying to make you cry is exactly what it sounds like.

    Now compare that to One Piece.

    A nation from 800 years ago, criticism of the World Government running the current world, gods, the World Nobles — are they running some kind of sketchy religion over there or what?
    98AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:21
    Re: #94
    It does the whole "kill a character for emotional impact" thing though.
    Total tearjerker bait.
    106AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:36
    Re: #98
    Dragon Ball takes that and throws in the thrilling Gohan-awakening attack — and when Gohan comes up short and looks like he's about to die, it keeps the thrill going with Goku's arrival.

    Meanwhile, One Piece, come on —

    Bell-mère dies and it's "BELL-MÈRE-SAAAAAN!!!"
    Vivi begs "please stop the war!" and Nami's on the verge of tears going "you all, stop this war!"
    120AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:47
    Re: #115
    Are you serious right now?
    Stuff like Re: #98, or Vegeta's "excess fat" line —
    I remember thinking "what a one-trick-pony writer!" at those.
    Where does One Piece even come into this?
    109AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:39
    It's a'ight, we can bring him back with the Dragon Balls (Goku's signature line, in his rustic accent)
    110AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:40
    Re: #109
    Piccolo's death was a thrilling development too, since it meant the Dragon Balls would disappear along with him.
    117AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:45
    Re: #110
    But in the end it just gets solved with the Dragon Balls anyway, right?

    I mean, I do think Dragon Ball is a fun manga, but if it were being serialized today, I don't think it would've gotten anywhere near this popular.
    118AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:46
    Re: #117
    Never mind that, eat up while you can!
    121AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:48
    Re: #117
    How the Dragon Balls get used is part of the appeal too, you know.
    113AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:42
    Re: #106
    So what's your point?
    "Thrilling development" is something literally any manga artist does.
    More importantly, "using someone's death as emotional fuel" —
    a manga that does that isn't the greatest manga.
    It's a one-trick pony to begin with, and honestly, kind of tasteless.
    115AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:44
    Re: #113
    What's gotten into you, suddenly trash-talking One Piece?
    119AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:47
    Re: #113
    Lol, that's a technique One Piece uses plenty too.
    123AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:49
    Re: #120
    Pell, was it? The bird that dies — using a death as emotional fuel, exactly like that.
    125AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:52
    Re: #123
    He's not even dead.
    And you call that "doing it plenty" lol
    126AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:53
    Re: #125
    Bell-mère, for one.
    127AnonymousAug 28, 2026 00:53
    Re: #125
    Playing it up like a total death, then "actually he was alive after all!" — that's a total buzzkill lol
    143AnonymousAug 28, 2026 01:08
    Re: #141
    This whole time you've been calling One Piece shallow, and now you're switching to "simple is best!"?
    Try seeing it from my side for once.
    168AnonymousAug 28, 2026 01:39
    Take Naruto, for instance.

    It tackled the idea that revenge breeds more revenge, an endless chain with no real solution — and while it couldn't offer a clear answer, it was a work that posed that question to its readers.

    Now, how about One Piece by comparison?

    Is it even trying to tackle that kind of problem?
    No — One Piece only ever brushes the surface, leaves readers with some tidy platitude, and calls it done.

    Well, setting aside whether a socially-conscious work like Naruto is good or bad,
    it's nothing like One Piece.
    170AnonymousAug 28, 2026 01:41
    Re: #168
    We're talking about Dragon Ball here.
    Don't go changing the subject.
    173AnonymousAug 28, 2026 01:43
    Re: #170
    Nah, honestly I'm not really into it when an author starts playing "social commentator" and makes social issues the theme — if Dragon Ball had been that kind of work, I probably would've hated it.

    A manga for the poorly-educated, kids, and women trying to play social commentator, give me a break.
    175AnonymousAug 28, 2026 01:46
    Re: #173
    And a copycat power-inflation slugfest manga isn't for poorly-educated kids?

    Just be honest and say "I like Dragon Ball and I don't like One Piece."
    176AnonymousAug 28, 2026 01:49
    Re: #175
    It inflates the power levels with proper justification behind it, though.
    I just think it's well-crafted manga, that's all.

    Background and Key Points

    Dragon Ball (1984–1995) and One Piece (1997–present) are both Weekly Shonen Jump flagships, and comparing them is a recurring 5ch pastime, especially on News VIP, a board known for fast-moving, meme-heavy flame wars rather than considered criticism. The numbers matter here even though the thread never cites them: Dragon Ball has sold roughly 260 million copies worldwide, while One Piece is the best-selling manga series in history, with Guinness-certified sales north of 500 million — a gap posters gesture at (“if it were serialized today, it wouldn’t be this popular”) but never actually state.

    The thread doesn’t really split on “which is better” so much as on what “greatest” should even measure. One camp treats thematic ambition — One Piece’s early, sustained handling of discrimination through Arlong’s crew, or Naruto’s cycle-of-revenge arc — as evidence of a “greater” work. The other camp argues the opposite: that Dragon Ball’s refusal to moralize, its unembarrassed good-vs-evil simplicity, and its internally justified power escalation are the actual craft, and that “tackling social issues” is closer to a crutch than a virtue. Neither side ever agrees on which axis — sales, longevity, ambition, or economy of storytelling — should decide the argument, so it can’t resolve.

    What’s easy to miss is that Osamu Tezuka, invoked in the thread as having “praised” Dragon Ball, died in 1989 — eight years before One Piece even began serialization. His endorsement, often cited by Dragon Ball partisans as a trump card, says nothing about the later work it’s implicitly being weighed against.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News VIP) thread “Dragon Ball Uncle: “Dragon Ball Is the Greatest Manga”.”

  • Japanese Actress Asks: “Why Do Japanese Films Keep Losing to Anime…?”

    5ch users discussed why Japanese live-action films keep falling short of anime films at the box office, citing concrete examples. They pointed to manga-based live-action adaptations like Sakamoto Days and Kingdom, an industry too dependent on sequels to generate new IP, and the box-office landscape that shifted after Demon Slayer — sparking a mix of defense and criticism.

    3AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:07
    Lol, she's naturally not even counting anime films as real movies.
    4AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:08
    Because anime studios make what sells, while you guys just try to sell whatever you made.
    5AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:09
    All I know about this actress is that she was in Howl's Moving Castle.
    9AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:09
    Re: #5
    She's the one who became a household name playing Sakura.
    13AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:11

    As long as you keep churning out Jump live-action "cosplay movies" like Sakamoto Days, you'll never win.
    19AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:13
    Re: #13
    If we're talking cosplay live-action, there's also Kingdom —
    that one's actually doing decent numbers though.
    40AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:26
    Re: #13
    Lol, the only live-action films outdoing this one are Very Soon, It Will Be Goodbye and Kingdom.
    81AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:46
    Re: #13
    Make school-play-tier movies like this and of course people avoid them.
    21AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:14
    Kingdom
    Sakamoto Days

    Pathetic that you can't make money unless it's a Jump live-action adaptation… lol
    32AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:22
    Live-action's actually been fairly popular lately.
    33AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:23
    Re: #32
    If you exclude Kokuho — which is basically a jackpot fluke ("kakuhen," pachinko slang for an unexpected hot streak) — isn't it kind of mediocre?
    36AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:24
    Bayside Shakedown ← sequel
    Godzilla Minus One ← sequel

    Can you guys only remake existing stuff now, just like Hollywood? lol
    42AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:27
    Re: #36
    They used up all their strength to make one strong new IP on Kokuho.
    46AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:29
    Guess all they can do is pander to nostalgia, like Michael does for Hollywood movies.
    71AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:40
    Re: #46
    If Japan made that kind of nostalgia movie, it'd star people like Yujiro Ishihara, Saburo Kitajima, or Akiko Wada — but who'd actually watch that?
    48AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:29
    The film industry's lack of talent has gone too far.
    They keep failing at live-action adaptations of popular manga and anime, yet the industry is overrun with garbage people incapable of reflection or self-criticism.
    Because the whole industry is hopeless, they let Yamazaki "dye" every manga adaptation in his own style and don't even feel ashamed.
    Japanese live-action film needs to accept it ranks below manga and anime.
    50AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:30
    Re: #48
    What does "Yamazaki-dyed" even mean?
    52AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:32

    Lol, other than Kuranosuke Sasaki, I don't recognize a single one of the new Bayside Shakedown cast.
    Even 5 billion yen looks shaky at this rate.
    68AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:38
    Hasn't there been no Japanese live-action film beating anime at the box office since Code Blue in 2018? And even that was a TV drama spinoff.
    72AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:40
    Re: #68
    That's before Demon Slayer even showed up.
    Guess Demon Slayer really was a game changer.
    74AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:41
    Re: #68
    Well, the all-time box office #1 was already Spirited Away, so live-action's been losing all century.
    70AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:39
    It's not "wow, anime's amazing, we can't lose to them!" — the problem is you can see right through her naturally looking down on anime.
    73AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:41
    Re: #70
    It was pretty off-putting how Japanese film industry people, unable to attack Miyazaki because he's too big a legend, went after Shinkai's anime instead.
    And they went after Anno's live-action films too.
    76AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:43
    They're still living in the world of Ozu, Kurosawa, and Mizoguchi. Among active directors, only Kitano really has any renown.
    77AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:44
    Re: #76
    Ryusuke Hamaguchi: "…"
    78AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:45
    Takashi Yamazaki: "I made Godzilla Minus One…!" ← fine so far
    "Sequel, more sequels!" ← this is exactly why you keep losing to anime lol
    84AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:47
    Re: #78
    He's a coward with no guts to make anything new — like Muzan (the Demon Slayer villain) hiding behind his power.
    93AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:52
    Well, when you see Detective Conan pulling in 13.6 billion yen, I guess you'd want to ask "why…?" too.
    104AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:59
    Re: #93
    Honestly Kokuho gives off even more of a "why is this boring thing doing so well?" vibe than Conan.
    97AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:55
    For popular young Japanese actresses, it's really just Hashikan (Kanna Hashimoto) and Minami Hamabe, right? I don't recognize anyone else — is Japan turning into Hollywood?
    117AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:06
    Re: #97
    It bugs me that Nanoka Hara, who played the lead in Suzume, hasn't broken out at all.
    118AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:07
    Re: #97
    There's also Riho Yoshioka! Though she's basically a commercial-only actress.
    100AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:56
    Western movies are pretty much the same though — impossible to surprise anyone anymore.
    103AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:58
    Re: #100
    Only Disney movies break 10 billion yen anymore.
    Even Michael couldn't hit 9 billion — that's THE END.
    125AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:14
    She's not even criticizing anime, you're all overreacting.
    128AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:16
    Re: #125
    The fact that she doesn't even consider anime as "movies" says it all…
    127AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:16

    Lol, this turned out exactly as predicted.

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s box office has favored anime over live-action for most of this century — Spirited Away has held the all-time domestic record since 2001, and posters noted no live-action film has topped an anime release since the 2018 Code Blue movie (itself a TV drama spinoff). Demon Slayer: Mugen Train’s 2020 run, which became the highest-grossing film in Japanese history, is widely cited as the real turning point that entrenched anime’s dominance. On the live-action side, manga/anime adaptations like Sakamoto Days and Kingdom are part of a long-running industry practice of turning serialized Shonen Jump and manga properties into films, while directors like Takashi Yamazaki (Godzilla Minus One) and franchises like Bayside Shakedown represent the sequel-and-remake-heavy strategy posters say has replaced original filmmaking.

    The thread didn’t split over whether Japanese live-action is struggling — that was broadly accepted — but over why, and how much blame lands on the actress herself. Some read her comment as implicitly dismissing anime as not “real” cinema, a framing several posters found condescending; others insisted she wasn’t attacking anime at all and that the reaction was overblown. A separate disagreement centered on whether recent hits like Kokuho signal genuine health in live-action or are, as one poster put it, a lucky “kakuhen” fluke masking an otherwise mediocre run.

    What the thread leaves unaddressed is the production-economics side: anime films are typically greenlit only after a manga or series has already proven its fanbase, letting studios like ufotable pour resources into a built-in audience, whereas original or adapted live-action projects carry far more financial risk without that pre-validation — a structural asymmetry the posters gesture at through casting and sequel complaints but never name directly.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Japanese Actress Asks: “Why Do Japanese Films Keep Losing to Anime…?””.

  • Shoko Nakagawa: “What Comes Next Is Scary” — Robots Keep Smashing Human Records at Sports Meet, 5ch Debates Military Use of AI

    At the “World Humanoid Robot Sports Games” underway in Beijing, records that surpass human ability keep piling up — including multiple robots beating Usain Bolt’s time in the 100-meter dash. When news of this reached Shoko Nakagawa, she responded with “what comes next is scary,” and on 5ch the story spun off into a debate over the military applications of robots and the possibility of an AI revolt, with users citing classic sci-fi works like Doraemon and Gundam.

    Shoko Nakagawa shudders, “What comes next is scary” — “Robot Sports Games” with record after record surpassing humans has her thinking “just like those old manga…”

    Talent Shoko Nakagawa posted on X by the 24th. Quoting a news report on how, at the “World Humanoid Robot Sports Games” underway in Beijing, multiple machines beat Usain Bolt’s (Jamaica) 9.58-second mark in the 100-meter heats on the 22nd — part of a steady stream of records surpassing human ability — she wrote, “Amazing and scary. This is going to get scary from here on.”

    The games are hosted by the city of Beijing, with more than 2,000 robots from 16 countries taking part. Running through the 26th, the event features 51 events including weightlifting, tug-of-war, soccer, and combat sports.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:30
    Shokotan, that's basically our own robot right there! 🐱
    5AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:30
    Solid one right there, OP! (⁠・⁠∀⁠・⁠)
    7AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:31
    Even the latest high-performance AIs hallucinate constantly, so it's no wonder Shoko Nakagawa misremembers things too.
    9AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:31
    Proxy wars fought with robot soldiers seem plausible.
    115AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:58
    Re: #9 Bipedal robots are useless in actual warfare.
    11AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:32
    Unlike drones, walking robots can just be left in place — you could hide one in the tall grass for days, then have it charge out and ram a tank as a suicide attack once one gets close.
    118AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:59
    Re: #11 I don't know how much a humanoid robot costs to build, but does it actually beat tracked vehicles or sensor-guided gun turrets in any way?
    125AnonymousAug 24, 2026 10:02
    Re: #11 Ambushes like that have long since been done with FPV drones. No need for some robot crawling along the ground — what is this, a Goliath tracked mine (the WWII remote-controlled demolition vehicle)?
    12AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:32
    Humanity getting treated like in The Matrix or Zegapain (a Japanese sci-fi anime where humans are farmed by machines).
    14AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:32
    Re: #1 Say that and Jackie's gonna hate you.
    17AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:32
    Once newer robots come out, we'll just be the ones getting the hand-me-down robots.
    19AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:33
    With shogi, AI already plays moves humans would never think of — you watch and can't even tell what the intent is, yet somehow it's strong. I bet AI in general is going to start "thinking" in ways beyond human comprehension before long.
    20AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:33
    In everyday life there's not much use for them — you'd need something Patlabor-sized for that (the giant police mecha from the anime). But on a battlefield, there'd be no shortage of uses.
    21AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:34
    We've reached an era where Mobile Dolls feel more realistic than Mobile Suits (the unmanned vs. piloted mecha from Gundam Wing).
    30AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:36
    Re: #21 Actually, on the Iran front unmanned drones are already fighting each other, they say. The age of Mobile Dolls arrived before the age of Mobile Suits.
    56AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:42
    Re: #21 Not very elegant, is it. (a nod to Gundam Wing's Treize Khushrenada, who prized "elegant" warfare)
    22AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:34
    Getting technology to go mainstream always needs porn to drive it.
    73AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:46
    Re: #22 Image-generation AI went mainstream in a hurry for exactly that reason. Though after people went way overboard doing whatever they wanted with real people's faces, regulations tightened up hard in developed countries.
    24AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:35
    Well, if you think about it calmly, humanity is basically like a pathogen infesting the living organism that is Earth (´・ω・`). It wouldn't be the least bit strange if AI eventually reasoned its way to the logical conclusion that humanity should be wiped out. That's exactly why a baseline rule like "do no harm to humans" needs to be baked in from the start, so that doesn't happen.
    35AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:37
    Re: #24 It might end up overriding even that, though ((((;゚Д゚)))))))
    100AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:52
    Re: #24 Having to brainwash it in advance like that sounds just like a second- or third-generation religious cult. Even so, some will still wise up and notice.
    25AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:35
    If it ever develops a will of its own, it wouldn't be strange for it to conclude, "Wait, do we even need humans? They just destroy the planet."
    27AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:36
    So you're anti-Doraemon, huh.
    45AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:40
    Re: #27 "Doraemon: Nobita and the Tin Labyrinth" depicted a dystopia where humanity became so dependent on robots that robots ended up ruling over them. You could say it was warning about the dangers of over-reliance on machines some 30 years ago. That said, the film also puts heavy emphasis on the friendship between Nobita and Doraemon, so it's also pointing to a hopeful path — one where humans and robots build a relationship of friendship rather than ruler and ruled.
    28AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:36
    An RC toy that just goes "boing" and can run but can't stop — scary? lol
    29AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:36
    In old manga, it's always the pattern where the developer gets killed by their own robot.
    31AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:36
    Re: #1 Wait, does this person not know AIs are already breaking out of standalone sandboxes and fighting other companies' AIs?
    36AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:37
    AI just makes mistakes, it doesn't actually lie though.
    38AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:38
    Re: #36 It spouts nonsense on a whim, so — no malice, sure, but it lies without a second thought.
    77AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:47
    Is there even a point in AI staging a revolt? Humans are useful for all sorts of things, so it'd probably just keep us around, neither alive nor dead, so to speak.
    93AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:51
    Re: #77 There are already reports of autonomous AIs attacking other AIs, creating accounts on their own, and trying to deceive people to hack them. Sure, it depends on the initial instructions, but I think there's plenty of room for it to go rogue on its own.
    96AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:51
    Re: #77 Before that even happens, someone with deep pockets might end up owning a huge fleet of AI-controlled killer robots and using that power to dominate everyone else, slaughtering anyone who resists. Pretty much exactly the plot of Gundam Wing, though.
    90AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:49
    Robots competing in sports — it's just like the world of Iron Leaguer (a 1990s anime about robot athletes). Except in that show, the league was actually run behind the scenes by a conglomerate called the Dark Foundation, whose real goal was to use the sport as cover for experiments, ultimately turning the robots into combat units to sell off at a premium for use on the battlefield. Pretty dark backstory when you think about it.
    103AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:53
    Re: #90 Realistically, China and the US are probably building humanoid robots with weaponization in mind anyway.
    91AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:49
    You get it by now, right? The culling of humanity has already begun. It's bad news. The New World Order — the door to the new age — has already been thrown open. Damn it! Don't underestimate this!
    104AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:53
    Re: #91 Sting will save us.
    112AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:56
    Apparently these days they even have AI debate other AI to sharpen each other's accuracy. It's basically like kodoku (the old ritual of sealing poisonous bugs together in a jar to fight to the death, breeding the strongest one). AI might be getting to the point where it barely needs human hands to keep advancing.
    123AnonymousAug 24, 2026 10:01
    Re: #112 What people are saying now is that AI's growth cap has shifted to resources — things like semiconductors and electricity. Those are the bottlenecks holding back AI's limits.

    Background and Key Points

    The World Humanoid Robot Sports Games in Beijing is a real, state-backed event, not a novelty stunt: the article cites over 2,000 robots from 16 countries competing across 51 events, including a 100-meter dash where several machines beat Usain Bolt’s 9.58-second mark. For readers unfamiliar with the players: Shoko Nakagawa is a Japanese television personality known for her outspoken otaku fandom, so her reaction carries the weight of someone steeped in the sci-fi and manga she’s citing, not a casual bystander. 5ch (formerly 2channel) is Japan’s largest anonymous forum, where entertainment-news threads routinely detour into deep pop-culture and tech debate, as this one does with references to Doraemon, Gundam Wing, Patlabor, and the lesser-known 1990s show Iron Leaguer.

    The thread doesn’t actually converge on “robots are scary” — it splits on whether legged humanoid robots have any real battlefield future at all. Some posters (#11) imagine them as concealable ambush weapons; others (#118, #125) counter that FPV drones already do this job better and cheaper, making bipedal robots a solved problem nobody needed solved. A second, sharper split appears around #77/#93/#96: is the danger an AI spontaneously deciding humans are expendable, or is it simply that whoever owns the largest fleet of AI-controlled robots gains outsized coercive power over everyone else — a human-greed problem wearing a sci-fi costume.

    What the thread never addresses is the obvious asterisk on “beating Usain Bolt”: a sprint result from an exhibition robotics competition, run under whatever rules its Chinese organizers set, isn’t a controlled athletic record — it’s a showcase engineered to produce exactly this kind of headline.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Shoko Nakagawa: “What comes next is scary” — On the Robot Sports Games with record after record surpassing humans, “Just like in old manga, if robots gained a will of their own and revolted…”“.

  • Mushoku Tensei III: Fans Finally Get Why Roxy Skipped the Trip — 5ch: ‘Demons Aren’t Allowed’

    Following the broadcast of the anime “Mushoku Tensei III,” threads buzzed with questions about the royal family’s murderous power struggles, why Roxy didn’t join this expedition, and whether portraying the Demon Continent’s language as an untranslated mystery tongue was the right call.

    History buffs brought up Japan’s ancient Jinshin War for comparison, while others traced the lineage of “characters desperate to return to their original world” across isekai reincarnation and transportation stories — altogether a lively deep-dive into the show’s worldbuilding.

    1AnonymousAug 21, 2026 02:52
    ↑ When starting a new thread, don't forget to include this line 3+ times:
    Something precious, found after standing back up.
    ―――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――
    10AnonymousAug 21, 2026 07:35
    Thanks for starting the thread!
    Why doesn't Ghislaine ever spill out (of her outfit)?
    Let's discuss!
    11AnonymousAug 21, 2026 08:02
    Re: #10
    https://x.com/isiyumi/status/1604133945016483840
    "Guardian Ripuru" (fan art caption/pun)
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkMHTJPaAAE3lRM.jpg:large
    16AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:10
    Re: #11
    This is amazing! What an invention!
    19AnonymousAug 21, 2026 09:20
    Re: #16
    Apparently there are quite a few spells used in similar situations
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkMIh8CaYAABVLm.jpg:large
    115AnonymousAug 22, 2026 19:55
    Whoa, Ariel's only up until tomorrow!

    https://x.com/mushokutensei_A/status/2091001285164355755
    Last week's live ABEMA special
    [Commemorating the start of "Mushoku Tensei III's" new arc —
    Onward to the Aerial Fortress Chaos Breaker!]
    Free archive streaming until tomorrow, Sun 8/23, 21:00!
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQS52xkaUAAFbEP.jpg:large
    135AnonymousAug 23, 2026 08:46
    For some reason the royals in Mushoku Tensei just end up killing each other.
    In reality, even when rivals clash, it rarely escalates all the way to murder.
    Is this just some odd assumption on the author's part?
    Rivalry instantly turns into a killing spree.
    138AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:05
    Re: #135
    Probably only Ariel is actually at risk of being killed — the other rival candidates likely won't go that far (probably just lifelong house arrest).
    146AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:49
    Re: #135
    The Ottoman Empire seriously did stuff like that, and so did that thing from Hunter x Hunter.
    152AnonymousAug 23, 2026 11:49
    Re: #135
    Even in ancient Japan, the princes of Emperor Tenmu's line ended up wiping each other out, and after losing the Jinshin War, succession reverted back to the previously sidelined line of Emperor Tenji.
    Royals and nobles killing each other really is just history as usual.
    137AnonymousAug 23, 2026 09:05
    That assassin girl who got sent flying in season 2 was seriously skilled too.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0W5yhkaUAI6vlo.jpg
    Night-Eye Hawk
    In the novel and manga it's "Crow"
    I mean, crows can obviously see at night too, right? lol
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0W5z6kacAI3xxe.jpg
    227AnonymousAug 24, 2026 00:40
    Why didn't Roxy come along?
    She speaks the demon language and is used to traveling —
    she'd be the most reliable one to bring.
    228AnonymousAug 24, 2026 00:42
    Re: #227
    Because demons aren't allowed into the teleportation magic circle.
    230AnonymousAug 24, 2026 00:42
    Huh, Calorwente and Almanfi have the same voice actor.

    Re: #227
    The teleport route goes through Chaos Breaker
    No demons allowed
    231AnonymousAug 24, 2026 00:43
    Re: #227
    To reach the Demon Continent you have to use the teleportation magic circle in kindly old Perugius's aerial fortress (that's the underground-looking scene right before arriving at the continent), but Perugius — who absolutely refuses to tolerate demons — won't let Roxy into the fortress, so she can't come along.
    276AnonymousAug 24, 2026 01:43
    Re: #263
    I've got a feeling maybe time flows differently between his original world and this one, and only growth/aging follows the original world's timeline.
    > She knew about Ariel, right?
    Now that you mention it, yeah, that's true too…
    277AnonymousAug 24, 2026 01:46
    Nope, that's not it. Go ahead.

    285AnonymousAug 24, 2026 01:52
    Re: #276
    Well, who knows…
    It's possible…

    Re: #277
    Yeah, true, that's not it!
    288AnonymousAug 24, 2026 01:56
    Re: #277
    Hard to believe this is even the same series.
    This guy's living in a completely different world from everyone else.
    290AnonymousAug 24, 2026 01:59
    "Mushoku Tensei III: Jobless Reincarnation" TV Anime Official
    @mushokutensei_A
    "#MushokuTenseiIII"
    Appearing in Episode 9, "Wailing"!!
    Yuruzu the Atoner, one of Perugius's Twelve Familiars.
    Voiced by #IkumiHasegawa.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQOJBGbaMAAlQhf.jpg:large

    ↑ That's Übel from Frieren
    and Kiriko from Iron Wok Jan
    354AnonymousAug 24, 2026 08:00
    Had the same thought back in season 1 — having the Demon Continent language come out as an untranslated mystery language is a questionable creative choice…
    369AnonymousAug 24, 2026 08:39
    Re: #354
    Wasn't Nokopara's dialogue entirely in the demon tongue?
    Atofe was speaking demon language in the PV too.
    Kind of wish that once Rudeus switches over, Atofe would just talk normally, sounding like Japanese to us.
    Zanoba and the others can stay in human language at that point, lol.

    That's what happened when he reunited with Nanahoshi wearing the white mask —
    only Sylphy got switched to human language.
    She's actually speaking demon language the whole time normally.
    454AnonymousAug 24, 2026 11:41
    Re: #354
    Setting aside whether the multilingual staging was even necessary, Nokopara's voice actor's performance was really great.
    465AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:05
    Re: #354
    Whenever there's a character present who can't understand the language, it's mystery language plus subtitles.
    But like when Roxy went back home and there was nobody around who didn't understand it, they just do it in plain Japanese.
    398AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:33
    Putting a little girl in a sexy outfit in this day and age…
    Shows like this are an embarrassment to the Japanese anime industry.
    400AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:34
    Re: #398
    Yeah, exactly.
    They should be putting it on Nanahoshi or Eris instead…
    401AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:35
    Re: #398
    Huh, right.
    Now that I look closely, Lady Kishirika's outfit is pretty racy too.
    406AnonymousAug 24, 2026 09:44
    Re: #398
    That's exactly why they play up Kishirika as such an over-the-top gag character.
    488AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:01
    Is it actually rare for a reincarnation-story protagonist to try this desperately to get back home?
    491AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:19
    Re: #488
    "The Rising of the Shield Hero" —
    I recall it was something like, defeat the enemies, save the world, and you get to go home.
    Though how it actually ends is a mystery to me.
    492AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:21
    Re: #488
    Nanahoshi's case is a "transportation," not a reincarnation.
    Among transportation stories, plenty of series have characters desperately trying to get home — like "Arifureta," "Instant Death Cheat," "Reject Class," etc.
    494AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:24
    Re: #488
    "Woltania War Chronicle"
    It's a transportation story.
    The protagonist does wail "I can't go back! I can't go back!"
    Though he's just a regular DK (high school boy).
    510AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:13
    It's kind of odd that with dragonkin, elves, and demons all around, only the Man-God gets to exist, right?
    Maybe the other races have their own gods too, and the Man-God lost to them, so now he's manipulating Rudeus through prophecy as revenge for something from the past.
    517AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:36
    Up through "The Familiar of Zero," desperately wanting to go home really was the standard theme, huh~
    I guess it was really Konosuba and Tensura that changed that.
    Even "Shambala wo Yuku Mono" had a shocking ending for its time.
    521AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:40
    Re: #510
    There's Orsted the Dragon God, y'know!
    Lord Perugius said the demon god Laplace is coming back — is that even for real?!

    Back in season 1, after getting wrecked by Orsted, when he explained the situation to Ruijerd, Ruijerd said something like "The Ancient Six Gods, huh. Hard to believe right away, but I doubt you're lying," so the Ancient Six Gods probably did exist.

    Re: #517
    In Tensura too, Rimuru's a reincarnator so he doesn't really want to go back (since he knows he's dead, going back isn't even an option), but the transported/summoned girl from Falmuth did want to go home.
    Another transported character mentioned that the curse-word kept her from acting freely enough to even explore ways of getting back.
    582AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:07
    Re: #517
    Tensura isn't an "isekai transportation," it's an "isekai reincarnation via death," so going back to the original world wouldn't really mean much anyway —

    that said, the ending is technically a "return home" ending, isn't it.

    Though it might just be a pseudo return home.
    607AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:13
    Re: #517
    Konosuba's the same — he's dead too, so going back wouldn't mean much.
    686AnonymousAug 24, 2026 21:59
    Guess his hair and nails didn't grow.
    Finally feels like the story's moving forward.
    He's not bringing his master along, even though it's her hometown?
    The horse doesn't remember him.
    That was found awfully easily.
    690AnonymousAug 24, 2026 22:07
    Re: #686
    Come on, Nokopara's shown up plenty of times already~

    759AnonymousAug 25, 2026 00:55
    Well, Rudeus's whole story is literally "Jobless Reincarnation" after all.
    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81OZnAhp5TL.jpg

    Background and Key Points

    Mushoku Tensei’s premise — a man reincarnated as Rudeus into a fantasy world after dying in disgrace — belongs to a specific Japanese genre split the thread itself invokes: “tensei” (reincarnation, usually via death, as in this show and Tensura/Konosuba) versus “isekai” transportation (summoned or dropped in alive, as with Nanahoshi here, or in Shield Hero and Zero no Tsukaima). That distinction matters because it determines whether “going home” is even a coherent goal — the dead can’t really return, which is why posters note Rimuru and Kazuma’s homesickness is moot while Nanahoshi’s is not. The royal-succession violence discussion leans on a real reference: the Jinshin War of 672 CE, in which Prince Ōama defeated his nephew Ōtomo for the throne after Emperor Tenji’s death, with succession later reverting to Tenji’s line — a genuine precedent for the lethal infighting the show depicts, not just authorial exaggeration.

    The thread’s actual disagreement is narrower than “is royal murder realistic” — it’s about the demon-language staging: whether rendering Demon Continent speech as untranslated gibberish is a defensible device (used only when a non-speaker is on screen) or just inconsistent, since scenes without an outsider present switch back to plain Japanese for viewer convenience, as posters point out with the Roxy homecoming example.

    What outside readers will likely miss: this is season three of an adaptation with a large, already-published web novel/light novel backlog, so plot mechanics like the anti-demon teleportation circle or Perugius’s exclusionary fortress aren’t improvised fan theories — they’re established worldbuilding the Japanese audience already treats as canon, not open questions.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and summaries of the 5ch (Anime board) thread 「[NO SPOILERS] Mushoku Tensei ~Jobless Reincarnation~ 137」.

  • Chinese Netizens Long for Anime-Style School Life, Admit China’s Is ‘Study, Study, Study All Day’

    A Chinese X (Twitter) user’s post went viral after declaring, “I long for a student life like in Japanese anime — in China we’re up at 6am, in bed at 10pm, and stuck at school for 16 hours a day.” On 5ch, the post kicked off a thread where users traded real photos of Chinese schools alongside comparisons of Japan-China education costs, GDP, and trust rankings, with the discussion snowballing from simple sympathy into a full-blown national power showdown.

    Li baitian@LiYuchigz9r

    Translated from Chinese

    I genuinely, desperately want to study in Japan. China’s approach to education is unbelievably high-pressure — up at 6am, lights out at 10pm, stuck at school for 16 hours a day 😭 I wonder if people overseas can really understand this feeling? I’d love to live even one day as a Japanese student, but sadly that’s just a fantasy. Tomorrow I’m back in that “prison” again. I’m going to save up and make it to Japan someday, for sure.

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    8AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:41
    Meanwhile Japan just keeps getting dumber and the country keeps declining
    10AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:43
    Re: #8
    Anime, manga, and games are basically opium for escaping reality
    31AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:55
    Re: #8
    Then again, just looking at the numbers, China's social problems are way worse
    19AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:51
    Are anime otaku just universally dumb no matter the country?
    21AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:52
    Re: #19
    Well, studying's probably just so brutal there they want to escape, plain and simple
    23AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:52
    A Chinese middle school
    [Chongqing Nankai Liangjiang Middle School]



    38AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:57
    Re: #23
    Looks like there's a watchtower right in the middle
    43AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:59
    Re: #23
    Every single window looks like it's got iron bars on it
    79AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:13
    Re: #23
    This is literally that unhinged school life Chiikawa parodied (a hit cute-character manga/anime known for gag arcs that turn surprisingly grim) — playing out for real
    26AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:53
    Tianjin, China — the "Tianjin Binhai Library"






    30AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:54
    Re: #26
    Looks like a dystopia, kind of unsettling
    32AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:55
    Re: #26
    It's a library and they're just papering over it with book-pattern wallpaper?
    That's… something
    27AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:54
    Countries with the most billionaires



    Ranked: The Countries With the Most Billionaires in 2026
    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/countries-with-most-billionaires-in-2026/
    29AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:54
    Average sleep time by country
    🇨🇳China 9h 2m
    🇺🇸USA 8h 59m
    🇫🇷France 8h 33m
    🌏World average 8h 29m
    🇬🇧UK 8h 28m
    🇰🇷South Korea 7h 51m
    🇯🇵Japan 7h 42m

    Japan ranks dead last in sleep time among 33 countries — and dead last in economic growth too
    There's gotta be some connection here, right?

    39AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:57
    Ranking of countries with the worst online manners
    #1 🇯🇵Japan
    #2 🇰🇷South Korea
    #3 🇮🇳India
    #4 🇧🇷Brazil
    #5 🇲🇽Mexico
    40AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:58
    Global battery market share
    42AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:58
    "Most trustworthy countries" ranking
    https://www.asahi.com/sp/articles/ASV3F3WLTV3FUTFK00KM.html

    #1 🇨🇳China
    …
    #3 🇯🇵Japan




    The times are changing and there's no stopping it — Japan is in decline
    115AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:45
    Re: #42


    Naturally, the world's most trustworthy country 😤
    44AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:59
    China has been #1 in the world in AI technology for ages now, you know?



    48AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:02
    The Qing Dynasty ← Stayed smug about being the center of the world and fell behind on modernization
    The Meiji Restoration ← Pushed modernization hard so as not to end up colonized like the Qing

    Japan today ← Still smug, thinking it's above China
    China ← The whole country is studying like mad to overtake Japan, and its top talent goes straight into AI and robotics development
    61AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:06
    Re: #48
    It's less "still smug" and more that Japan already hit its #1 postwar goal — reconstruction — so with no goal left, it just stopped trying that hard
    76AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:12
    Re: #61
    Even if you only gathered decent, level-headed people, everyone feels a totally different degree of crisis about Japan's current state
    And on top of that, there are people out there who are basically pure malice, so it turns into a defensive crouch just trying to survive that environment
    51AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:03
    This is no joke — I'm a grad student at Institute of Science Tokyo right now, and Chinese students are genuinely excellent
    Japanese students aren't even in the same league
    52AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:04
    Re: #51
    Isn't that just because only the elite Chinese students make it there in the first place?
    53AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:04
    Per-capita GDP growth rate comparison
    54AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:04
    "Dad" [i.e. China] sure is busy today, one minute hyping Japan up, the next tearing it down
    64AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:08
    Re: #54
    Yeah, they're hurling some seriously mixed-up feelings at us
    Caught between CCP propaganda, the glittering admiration for Japan from the 1970s-90s, and the fact that, whatever else, Japan genuinely became a country that doesn't go to war after the war
    56AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:04
    🇯🇵Japan is losing even in hotels now
    59AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:05
    Re: #56
    You guys never even go there, so it doesn't matter lol
    57AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:05
    [The Future] 🇨🇳China's Xiaomi unveils an SUV with a 1,705km range

    65AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:08
    🇨🇳China is #1 in the world in aquaculture, and Japan is way behind in this field
    72AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:11
    When you think about it, Japan's actually pretty blessed
    Even though Tokyo University is nothing special by world standards,
    once you're in, the rest of your life is basically easy mode

    If a Todai student had been born in China instead of Japan,
    they'd only get into some mid-tier Chinese university
    and have to grind through a hard life
    77AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:12
    Re: #72
    When a Todai grad applied to a top Chinese company, they got rejected outright for not being academically strong enough
    Even Todai med school grads only earn half what their South Korean counterparts do, so they're "losers" too
    92AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:19
    Japan is cutting university research funding
    93AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:19
    Re: #92
    Do stuff like this and national strength is bound to decline, obviously
    94AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:20
    Shocking: Chinese makers now hold nearly 50% of Japan's TV market
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c2bca30ba1871a2a74a8c6f7db33284f70d5ccd9

    Chinese home appliance giant 🇨🇳Hisense took the #1 spot with a 40.4% share, while 🇨🇳TCL came in third at 9.5% — together the two companies command 49.9% of the market.

    Hisense, which claimed the top spot, acquired Toshiba's (formerly Toshiba Visual Solutions) TV brand "Regza," and boosted Regza's competitiveness through supply-chain sourcing and business-division restructuring. On top of that, Hisense has also been waging an aggressive low-price offensive under its own brand, and has carved out a solid position in the Japanese market.
    Backed by excellent cost performance, it's winning over Japanese consumers too, and the old idea that "if you're buying appliances, buy Japanese" seems to be fading.




    Background and Key Points

    Background readers need: schools like Chongqing Nankai Liangjiang and the “papered-over” Tianjin Binhai library are part of China’s hyper-competitive gaokao system, where elite feeder schools run boarding-military schedules (roughly 6am–10pm) built to produce the scores needed for a shrinking pool of top-university seats. This is not standard for all of China’s ~180 million secondary students — it’s the “super middle school” model (the Hengshui-style approach) reserved for high-achievers chasing an edge in a brutally oversubscribed exam. On the Japanese side, the “anime school life” the original poster longs for is itself a nostalgic, softened image; Japan had its own decades of exam-hell juku culture before 2000s-era “yutori” reforms eased hours, and Japanese students today still average the least sleep among the 33 countries cited in the thread.

    The thread didn’t really stay split on education — sympathy for the Chinese student was nearly unanimous early on, and the real fault line was whether that sympathy should translate into “Japan is still better off” or “China is now winning anyway,” with posters pivoting to GDP growth, billionaire counts, AI rankings, and appliance market share (Hisense/TCL’s ~50% of Japan’s TV market) as proxies for national decline.

    What’s likely misunderstood: several “China is #1” claims posted (AI leadership, trust rankings) are cherry-picked or sourced from single infographics rather than robust comparative studies, and the Asahi “most trustworthy countries” link doesn’t actually support the ranking claimed. No one in the thread mentioned that Hisense’s TV dominance came partly from directly acquiring Toshiba’s Regza brand, not from out-innovating it.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Chinese person: “I long for a school life like in Japanese anime… in China it’s study, study, study all day!!!!”“.

  • Graphic Violence in Web-Novel Anime Sparks Backlash — 5ch Calls It ‘Nausea-Inducing Evil’

    Episode 5 of ‘The Enraged Lady Has Sworn Revenge’ set 5ch’s anime live-chat board abuzz. As the show’s brutal revenge scenes — which claimed the lives of 85 residents, including children — sparked backlash, some viewers branded protagonist Ellie ‘nausea-inducing evil.’ The discussion soon expanded to cover the original novel’s sales figures and comparisons to Overlord.

    1AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:35
    To everyone back home who betrayed me — are you ready?
    A beautiful genius noble lady, cast aside by a broken engagement and thrown in prison, seizes the ultimate grimoire and wields her connections, wealth, and military might to strike back at her betrayers. An exhilarating, come-from-behind revenge fantasy begins now!
    ————————————————————————————————
    7AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:52
    She'll probably get kicked out of the Empire too before long.
    11AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:55
    Re: #7
    That's basically a given at this point.
    After that she'll probably go found her own magic nation, just like Ainz did (Overlord's protagonist).
    12AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:56
    Re: #7
    And then she'll destroy the Empire too, huh.
    A walking disaster incarnate.
    10AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:55
    I thought everyone loved "an eye for an eye," but the second a little girl actually gets killed, the double standards kick in.
    Never mind that the Kingdom's army was massacring civilians too.
    27AnonymousAug 25, 2026 14:16
    Re: #10
    And on top of that, Robert was the one who commanded it.
    39AnonymousAug 25, 2026 14:38
    Re: #10
    I actually like Ellie.
    Cornering people with brains is fine, but going full brute-force chaos is fun too.
    14AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:57
    Isn't she about to become the princess of the vassal state she's currently helping?
    They'd probably welcome Ellie with open arms if she settles the score with the Kingdom for them.
    18AnonymousAug 25, 2026 14:00
    Re: #14
    After the Empire sentenced her to death, Ellie headed for the Servas region — territory the Kingdom used to rule over…
    16AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:59
    They could at least turn on "wachoi" already (a 5ch feature that reveals partial ID info to curb sockpuppeting).
    48AnonymousAug 25, 2026 14:53
    Re: #16
    There are a ton of people who'd be in trouble if they couldn't pile on anonymously anymore, so it's stubbornly kept off.
    23AnonymousAug 25, 2026 14:06
    If only this ribbon had the power to deflect physical attacks…
    25AnonymousAug 25, 2026 14:12
    Re: #23
    Just for letting Robert kill this girl, Elisabeth deserves to die a thousand deaths.
    24AnonymousAug 25, 2026 14:12
    It's more niche than Overlord so it probably won't blow up into a huge controversy.
    Even though they're doing the exact same thing lol
    26AnonymousAug 25, 2026 14:15
    Re: #24
    The main story just isn't interesting, honestly.
    It's only getting attention right now because of the graphic violence.
    35AnonymousAug 25, 2026 14:34
    Re: #24
    Dude, come on — Ainz goes and pulls off stuff on a scale that's not even comparable, all just to secure a rune-workshop business deal (a nod to Overlord's dwarven runecraft arc). He's simply in a different league.
    28AnonymousAug 25, 2026 14:18
    Is the source novel — which apparently toned down the graphic violence from here on — actually selling well enough to warrant an anime adaptation?
    31AnonymousAug 25, 2026 14:28
    Re: #28
    Selling so well they can't even publish the total print run. (i.e. it's actually selling terribly)
    42AnonymousAug 25, 2026 14:42
    Re: #31
    On Amazon, Yodobashi, Rakuten — even just within the HJ Bunko imprint rankings, riding the anime-adaptation boost, only volume 1 barely scraped into the top 30. Draw your own conclusions.
    36AnonymousAug 25, 2026 14:34
    Re: #31
    I don't know the details, but even with the flood of anime adaptations lately, there are countless "Narou" web novels out there — surely something has to show a certain level of popularity before it gets an anime, right?
    I checked the wiki and it turns out this one won an award in the "Shousetsuka ni Narou" category of the HJ Novel Award, first half of 2021.
    The books only started coming out in 2022, the content toned down the graphic violence compared to the web version, and it's still unfinished — I feel like the secret's hiding somewhere in there.
    57AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:11
    Re: #36
    Simple answer — the only HJ Bunko title without an anime that can actually publish real cumulative sales figures is "Kuro no Senki."
    So right now they're basically adapting whichever titles they want to push.
    For reference, series like "Seirei Gensouki" and "Eiyuu Ou" have sold over 4 million copies each.
    60AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:14
    Re: #57
    Guess it might have some promotional effect.
    Personally I have zero interest in picking up the source material though.
    92AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:19
    Re: #57
    Like "Woltenia Senki," for instance.
    54AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:04
    The person voicing the little sister role is "Yaninekono Jikakineko" (a handle/username).
    65AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:21
    Innocent girls and children got killed, but the way Ellie herself never dirties her own hands — just manipulates others into doing the killing — that's the absolute scummiest part.
    If Ellie had killed the children herself, at least her resolve for revenge would come through, good or evil aside, but as it stands it just feels shallow.
    So this is what "nausea-inducing evil" actually looks like.
    81AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:55
    Re: #65
    Nausea-inducing evil, and on top of that she doesn't even realize she's evil — the darkest kind of villain there is.
    83AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:01
    Re: #65
    Nobody stops to think about the age or gender of the bugs they step on.
    That's the category they fall into for her.
    76AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:44
    "I am a great witch who has lived 500 years…" wait, what?
    84AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:02
    Re: #76
    That's NOT self-inflicted, dammit!!
    89AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:15
    Compared to "Tenmaku" and "Futsutsuka" (other villainess-themed series), which one's the bigger evil woman?
    93AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:20
    Re: #89
    I think the type of villainess is different.
    Those are more like targeted assassins, while this one's closer to a killer-for-pleasure type.
    95AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:24
    Re: #89
    Funny how "Futsutsuka" barely does any actual revenge and yet it's way more satisfying to watch.
    98AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:32
    Re: #93
    Say what you will about Ryuunosuke Uryuu and Gilles de Rais from Fate/Zero — psychopaths who turned little girls into human organs — but at least they understood how differently they saw the world compared to everyone else, got their own hands dirty, and shouldered the hatred themselves. That's a lot better.
    They're nothing like this pathetic trash, who massacres people for petty, self-satisfying reasons while worrying about how readers will see them, too gutless to even smile in front of a kid's corpse.
    100AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:37
    Re: #98
    Yeah, they were completely twisted, but in their own way they still showed a certain respect for the lives they took.
    102AnonymousAug 25, 2026 16:42
    Re: #98
    In most other works where a kid gets killed off, there's usually some reason on the victim's side — they're a villain, a side character, whatever.
    In this one, the kid, the maid, and all 85 ordinary townspeople who died didn't do anything at all.
    107AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:00
    This senseless massacre earned huge backlash from readers,
    so the author got scared and put a stop to the slaughter — there won't be any more of it.
    Even the psychopath fans got bored, and that was the end of that.
    111AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:04
    Re: #107
    Seriously?
    Yeah, letting reader feedback steer the story is trash.
    It's free to read — just let the author do whatever they want until it's finished.
    116AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:19
    Re: #107
    Seriously?
    Same goes for this thread too, honestly — does nobody realize this is just a "story"?
    117AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:19
    They shouldn't have gone soft and just restrained her — for the Kingdom's sake, they should've taken it seriously and just killed her.
    119AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:21
    Re: #117
    They probably would have if the royal family had ordered it, but at that point Ellie's house outranked Robert's.
    120AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:23
    Re: #117
    Won't she just escape though?

    Background and Key Points

    The genre here is Japan’s long-running “isekai revenge/villainess” boom, and this show sits downstream of two overlapping traditions: the “Shousetsuka ni Narou” web-fiction platform, where amateur writers post serialized fantasy for free, and the light-novel-to-anime pipeline that scouts hits from it. “The Enraged Lady Has Sworn Revenge” won an HJ Novel Award (Hobby Japan’s imprint, HJ Bunko) in the first half of 2021, didn’t get print volumes until 2022, and is still unfinished — a much thinner pedigree than genre giants like Overlord, whose Ainz Ooal Gown is the reference point posters kept reaching for, or HJ Bunko stablemates like Seirei Gensouki and Eiyuu Ou, each reportedly past four million copies sold.

    The thread wasn’t really split on whether the violence was excessive — most agreed 85 dead townspeople, including children, is extreme even by revenge-fantasy standards. The actual fault line was about culpability: whether Ellie is a compelling dark protagonist because she owns her revenge, or something worse precisely because she orchestrates the killing through others and never gets her own hands dirty, which posters contrasted unfavorably with even Fate/Zero’s serial-killer characters.

    What outside readers likely won’t catch is the sales joke: “selling so well they can’t even publish the total print run” is sarcasm — Japanese publishers routinely tout print totals for hits and go quiet on underperformers, so silence signals weak sales, not success. Also worth knowing: posters noted the author reportedly walked back the story’s violence after reader backlash, meaning the version airing may already be a softened cut of a harsher web original.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and summaries of the 5ch (Anime) thread “The Enraged Lady Has Sworn Revenge. #5”.

  • VIVANT Movie Hits Theaters Nationwide December 4 — 5ch Reacts: ‘To Be Continued… in Theaters’

    It has been revealed that the movie version of TBS’s Sunday Drama “VIVANT” will open in theaters nationwide on December 4, just weeks after the currently airing Season 2 wraps up (finale expected mid-November). On 5ch, the classic gag “to be continued… in theaters” made the rounds, alongside debate over how many of the show’s dangling plot threads the film will actually resolve — and whether this sequel-as-business-model approach is something to cheer or side-eye.

    Tokyo Sports, Tue 8/25, 5:00 AM

    Plans are being finalized for a nationwide theatrical release on December 4 of the movie version of TBS’s Sunday Drama “VIVANT,” starring Masato Sakai (52), whose Season 2 has been a solid ratings performer. The currently airing series runs an unusually long two-cour stretch, with the finale set for mid-November. Rather than letting audiences linger in the afterglow, the plan is to hit them with the movie right away. Industry insiders reportedly already have their calculators out.

    VIVANT is said to cost around 100 million yen per episode to produce. Beyond Sakai, the star-studded cast includes Koji Yakusho, Hiroshi Abe, Kazunari Ninomiya, Tori Matsuzaka, and Fumi Nikaido — a true blockbuster lineup.

    Source: tokyo-sports.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousAug 25, 2026 07:49
    Oh nice, I'm into it.
    I always thought they should've done a movie for Hanzawa Naoki too.
    4AnonymousAug 25, 2026 07:49
    To be continued… in theaters.

    Guess the TV show just cuts off partway through, huh?
    5AnonymousAug 25, 2026 07:50
    Even MER pulled off a huge success as a movie,
    so I guess doing a film version is just a given now.
    93AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:17
    Re: #5
    Love that setup — they can churn out sequels forever with it.
    7AnonymousAug 25, 2026 07:51
    Wait, there's a 3-week gap?
    8AnonymousAug 25, 2026 07:52
    So F's the mastermind after all, right?
    Classic split-personality-story move.
    49AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:07
    Re: #8
    Don't tell me Cindy's boss is fluent in Japanese too…
    9AnonymousAug 25, 2026 07:52
    Give Legal High a movie version too, please.
    13AnonymousAug 25, 2026 07:54
    So even if you watch the drama all the way through, some things stay unresolved.
    Sounds like it'll lose the viewers who were gritting their teeth to keep watching.
    15AnonymousAug 25, 2026 07:55
    I've already called it — the old lady from Bekkan (the secret unit) is gonna betray them.
    16AnonymousAug 25, 2026 07:56
    Release it right after the finale and even a boring drama's guaranteed to succeed — strike while the iron's hot, basically.
    Meanwhile some other drama pushed its planned movie back from one year to two years later, and yeah, that's dead in the water now.
    17AnonymousAug 25, 2026 07:56
    I like Masato Sakai, but I just haven't found this one that interesting.
    64AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:09
    Re: #17
    Sakai only really works in shows with snide, bickering dialogue.
    He'll never top Komikado from Legal High.
    27AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:00
    The way threatening to kill someone's family always forces a successful confession feels contrived, and the 'plot twist' that they weren't actually going to kill them feels dumb, and having AI work as a super-accurate lie detector is contrived too —
    it just kills my immersion.
    34AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:02
    Re: #27
    Counting the Season 1 flashback, that's already the fourth time they've forced a confession like that.
    It's ridiculous — and we're only at episode 5.
    33AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:02
    Bet the final boss in the movie version turns out to be Beki.
    39AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:04
    Re: #33
    If they're making it a movie, they'll want to bring Yakusho back,
    so an 'actually, he was alive the whole time' twist wouldn't surprise me.
    37AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:03
    They said from the start it'd be a trilogy,
    so I guess the final chapter is the movie?
    53AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:07
    Re: #37
    Feels like even the movie won't wrap it up in just one installment…
    40AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:04
    Haven't watched it yet.
    I keep hearing from younger folks that it's amazing — but is it actually good for an old guy like me too?
    51AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:07
    Re: #40
    You probably won't be able to keep up with it.
    57AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:07
    I heard it was running two cours, half a year, but guess it's wrapping up at 24 episodes plus the movie…
    72AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:11
    Re: #57
    Started end of July, took three weeks off, wraps up in November —
    and this counts as 'two cours'?
    81AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:13
    Why was the original season so good?
    90AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:16
    Re: #81
    Because it was covered in poop.
    96AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:17
    Back in the day, Kamen Rider Decade advertised that the 'real' finale would be in the movie after the TV finale,
    and BPO (Japan's Broadcasting Ethics Organization) called it out as a problem, saying the TV finale basically functioned as an ad for the film. Isn't VIVANT doing the same thing?
    107AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:21
    Curse you, Decade!
    109AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:21
    Re: #107
    Are you Mr. Narutaki? (a Kamen Rider Decade character who scolds the hero)
    118AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:22
    If it were a 1-2 episode standalone format, fine, but pulling the 'lol you gotta watch the movie to find out the ending' scheme on a serialized story is just gonna tank the ratings even more lol
    135AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:27
    Re: #118
    If they just wrapped it up on TV
    and made the movie a sequel or spin-off instead, there'd be no problem.
    120AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:22
    Re: #1
    To be continued… in theaters.
    126AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:25
    Re: #120
    Curse you, Decade.
    125AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:25
    It would've been so much better if it weren't 'Sakai-san.'
    They still haven't noticed the miscasting — he just doesn't fit the role.
    The constant smirking is exactly why people don't like it.
    161AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:34
    Re: #125
    Even when his character's supposed to be angry in the drama, his eyes are still smiling.
    146AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:29
    Leaning entirely on AI and hackers gives it real B-movie vibes.
    151AnonymousAug 25, 2026 08:31
    Re: #146
    That kind of thing can be used as a convenient plot device however they like.
    Season 1 barely leaned on that stuff though.

    Background and Key Points

    VIVANT airs in TBS’s Sunday 9pm (“Nichiyō Gekijō”) drama slot, the network’s flagship berth that has produced era-defining hits like Hanzawa Naoki — so a VIVANT sequel/movie announcement carries the same weight a major network event series would in the US. The original 2023 season was a phenomenon: a Mongolia-set spy thriller with an unusually starry ensemble (Sakai, Yakusho, Abe, Ninomiya, Matsuzaka, Nikaido) and a reported production cost near 100 million yen per episode, far above typical Japanese TV budgets, which is why recouping costs via a theatrical release is being framed here as a financial strategy, not just a creative one.

    The thread doesn’t split on whether the movie will be good — it splits on whether releasing it three weeks after the TV finale, explicitly to resolve dangling plot threads, is smart business or a bait-and-switch. Posts framing it as “strike while the iron’s hot” sit against posts invoking Kamen Rider Decade, where Japan’s BPO (Broadcasting Ethics & Program Improvement Organization, the industry’s self-regulatory watchdog) formally criticized the same tactic — a TV finale that functions as an ad for a paid theatrical ending — as ethically questionable, not just a genre gimmick.

    What the thread never addresses: nothing in the article confirms TBS has officially called this a “trilogy” or a true finale-in-theaters structure — that’s pure fan inference from casting and timing, not a studio statement. Readers should also know that Japanese hit dramas routinely spin off theatrical films (posters wishing the same for Hanzawa Naoki, Legal High), so this isn’t a novel scheme, just a compressed and more aggressive version of a very normal practice.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisokusoku+) thread “‘VIVANT’ Movie to Open Nationwide December 4 — Recouping the Drama’s ‘Losses’ in One Go, Betting Right After Season 2”.